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Lord Helmet
11-24-2004, 12:24 AM
Sorry if you guys have seen this but I havn't.On a preview for the upcoming SportsCenter (Time now is 11:23) they said they have exclusive footage that may lead to another Pacer suspension.I couldn't make out who it was but I havn't heard anything about this.Have you guys?

MagicRat
11-24-2004, 12:26 AM
I knew some certain people on here shouldn't keep talking about Harrison hitting somebody.....

Reggie4Three
11-24-2004, 12:26 AM
I think I heard there was new footage of Harrison hitting someone and I also thought I read that the NBA wasn't going to suspend him.

sweabs
11-24-2004, 12:26 AM
From what Peck has said - perhaps David Harrison?

Lord Helmet
11-24-2004, 12:30 AM
It is total bull**** if we have anymore suspensions.We better not :mad:

Cactus Jax
11-24-2004, 12:30 AM
Because the Pacers need another message slammed at them :rolleyes: :mad:

They're just trying to :deadhorse

SoupIsGood
11-24-2004, 12:31 AM
It is footage of Davey hitting a fan in the tunnel.

It then shows a statement by the NBA, stating the chaos in the vomitorium somehow justified Harrison's actions, and he would not be suspeneded.

Basically, Stern goofed and missed one, and isn't admiting it.

MagicRat
11-24-2004, 12:31 AM
They need to promote Thursday's game with just a little more controversy......

Cactus Jax
11-24-2004, 12:33 AM
It is footage of Davey hitting a fan in the tunnel.

It then shows a statement by the NBA, stating the chaos in the vomitorium somehow justified Harrison's actions, and he would not be suspeneded.

Basically, Stern goofed and missed one, and isn't admiting it.

This is great proof to try and get JO and/or AJ's suspensions lowered. The players association can point this out and say if you're not suspending Harrison, why are you nailing these guys so much for pretty much the same thing?

Lord Helmet
11-24-2004, 12:33 AM
It is footage of Davey hitting a fan in the tunnel.

It then shows a statement by the NBA, stating the chaos in the vomitorium somehow justified Harrison's actions, and he would not be suspeneded.

Basically, Stern goofed and missed one, and isn't admiting it.
Yeah because the statement by the NBA is basicly saying what J.O. did was ok too.So yeah Hitl....Stern messed up.

sweabs
11-24-2004, 12:35 AM
Wow...they have to be consistent. Stern is making no sense at all.

sweabs
11-24-2004, 12:38 AM
I still have not seen the footage of Harrison's punch. Does anyone happen to have a link to it by chance?

Shade
11-24-2004, 12:40 AM
ESPN can rot in hell. :mad:

SoupIsGood
11-24-2004, 12:42 AM
Well when I saw it on ESPNEWS the geniuses at ESPN telestrated a box around a fan instead of Harrison, so I didn't see him punching all that well. I saw him gathering himself after the punch though.

Outlaw
11-24-2004, 12:47 AM
Espn (BSPN) just won't let this thing die down. :mad:

Suaveness
11-24-2004, 01:09 AM
I hate ****ing ESPN.

Eindar
11-24-2004, 07:01 AM
They need to promote Thursday's game with just a little more controversy......

That, and Stern took away our 3 best players, and we're still competitive, so maybe he needs to go back to work to make sure we can't win.

scar
11-24-2004, 07:26 AM
Harrison missed the first punch and partially hit an old lady with the second punch. That's what ESPN is saying I believe. But even with that, they aren't suspending Harrison, and like it's been pointed out already, I believe that David Stern screwed up adn won't admit it.

fwpacerfan
11-24-2004, 08:21 AM
Typical ESPN crap. They aren't capable of reporting the news they have to try to MAKE the news.

ABADays
11-24-2004, 09:58 AM
Since when did ESPN anoint themselves as the investigative arm of the NBA. The Pacers organization should bar them from the locker room and instruct the players not to speak to them under any circumstance. Freaking ********.

Ragnar
11-24-2004, 10:15 AM
Fw that is the most disturbing avatar I have seen in a while.

owl
11-24-2004, 11:13 AM
Harrison missed the first punch and partially hit an old lady with the second punch. That's what ESPN is saying I believe. But even with that, they aren't suspending Harrison, and like it's been pointed out already, I believe that David Stern screwed up adn won't admit it.
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What the heck are all these people, especially an older lady doing down
in the "vomitorium"?

Even though that is the technical name for that area it is quite a fitting
name for the arena that night.


owl

Dab
11-24-2004, 01:32 PM
The "Straight Dope" on Vomitorium

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/021101.html

Dear Cecil: Were vomitoriums really used in ancient Roman times so that people could throw up between courses in order to eat more? --Christine

Cecil replies:

Let me ask you this, Christine. The last time you were doubled over the porcelain throne heaving your nachos, did you think: I want to permanently consecrate part of my home to this delicious experience?

Well, neither did the Romans. While there was something called a vomitorium (from the Latin vomitus, past participle of vomere, to vomit), it wasn't a room set aside to vomit in. Rather a vomitorium was a passageway in an amphitheater or theater that opened into a tier of seats from below or behind. The vomitoria of the Colosseum in Rome were so well designed that it's said the immense venue, which seated at least 50,000, could fill in 15 minutes. (There were 80 entrances at ground level, 76 for ordinary spectators and 4 for the imperial family.) The vomitoria deposited mobs of people into their seats and afterward disgorged them with equal abruptness into the streets--whence, presumably, the name.

That's not to say the Romans were unfamiliar with throwing up, or that they never did so on purpose. On the contrary, in ancient times vomiting seems to have been a standard part of the fine-dining experience. In his Moral Epistles the Roman philosopher Seneca writes, *** ad cenandum discubuimus, alius sputa deterget, alius reliquias temulentorum [toro] subditus colligit, "When we recline at a banquet, one [slave] wipes up the spittle; another, situated beneath [the table], collects the leavings of the drunks." OK, it doesn't literally say puke, but come on. The orator Cicero, in Pro Rege Deiotaro, says matter-of-factly that Julius Caesar "expressed a desire to vomit after dinner"(vomere post cenam te velle dixisses), and elsewhere suggests that the dictator took emetics for this purpose. Caesar's hosts wanted to take him to the bathroom, since they supposedly had a squad of assassins waiting there (at the time of Cicero's speech, King Deiotarus was on trial for this alleged attempt on Caesar's life), but he decided to go to his bedroom instead. Nowhere does Cicero say anything about a "vomitorium."

You get the picture. The Romans weren't shy about vomiting, and they had vomitoria--but they didn't do the former in the latter. The conflation of the two appears to be a recent error. The Oxford English Dictionary cites Aldous Huxley using the term incorrectly in 1923, with the stern comment "erron." Urban historian Lewis Mumford makes a similar screwup in The City in History (1961), claiming that the vomitoria of the amphitheaters were named after the mythical dining room appurtenances. So you're in distinguished company, Christine, but still misinformed.

Probably I should leave it at that. But perhaps all this talk of vomiting has you feeling . . . strangely excited. Perhaps I also need to fill out the bottom couple inches of the column. Either way, I'm obliged to inform you about a condition known as emetophilia, which is sexual arousal in response to vomit or vomiting. I won't claim it's a major phenomenon at the moment. I could only find one pre-Internet article in a medical journal ("Erotic Vomiting," Archives of Sexual Behavior, 1982), which calls it "a previously unreported aberration." A quick on-line search suggests emetophilia has a long way to go before it catches up with Japanese tentacle porn. But today's fringe practice is tomorrow's Newsweek cover. I say forewarned is forearmed.

--CECIL ADAMS

FiestyFosterFanatic
11-24-2004, 05:38 PM
Man, ESPN is the biggest bunch of tattle tales in the whole world. **** YOU ESPN!

Lord Helmet
11-24-2004, 05:50 PM
Man, ESPN is the biggest bunch of tattle tales in the whole world. **** YOU ESPN!
I agree.That is exactly what they sounded like :mad:

SoupIsGood
11-24-2004, 08:19 PM
I can't believe so many people didn't know what a vomitorium was.