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BornReady#6
07-09-2012, 06:34 PM
Didnt see much of this guy last year, but I know he was a 1st round pick for the Nets, and since we need another 2 guard, wondered what you all thought about giving up our future 1st rounder for him, If we did I would rather give up the 2014 pick, next years draft is stacked.

Brooks rookie year:

13, 4 and 2. Only 19 games not in double figures and shot 43% from the field, 76% from the stripe, and 30% from 3.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/09/dwight-update-many-bodies-involved/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1&ls=iref:nbahpt2


In the proposed deal, Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark would be sent to Brooklyn, and the Magic would receive the Nets’ Brook Lopez, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Cleveland’s Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said. Cleveland would receive Orlando’s Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn’s Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets. Brooklyn also would send [MarShon] Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.

Dr. Hibbert
07-09-2012, 06:52 PM
Absolutely. He might be a volume scorer, but what option are we always discussing that isn't? (Crawford, Mayo, etc.) Volume scorer off the bench isn't necessarily a bad thing, unless he has Barbosa-esque freedom to fail.

Shade
07-09-2012, 06:53 PM
In a heartbeat.

OlBlu
07-09-2012, 06:55 PM
Didnt see much of this guy last year, but I know he was a 1st round pick for the Nets, and since we need another 2 guard, wondered what you all thought about giving up our future 1st rounder for him, If we did I would rather give up the 2014 pick, next years draft is stacked.

Brooks rookie year:

13, 4 and 2. Only 19 games not in double figures and shot 43% from the field, 76% from the stripe, and 30% from 3.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/09/dwight-update-many-bodies-involved/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1&ls=iref:nbahpt2

Would you trade Plumlee for him? Well, there you go, next years pick will be just about as low and irrelevant.....:cool:

joew8302
07-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Depends. A lottery pick, probably not. 15 on back, yes.

troyc11a
07-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Would you trade Plumlee for him? Well, there you go, next years pick will be just about as low and irrelevant.....:cool:

I really dont think that is a fair question and here is why: The Magic do not want Brooks, they want the pick because it saves them money. So any team who takes Brooks for a 1st is actually doing them a favor. There is no way to tell what the pick will be because someone could get hurt. It is a gamble regardless unless it comes from Charlotte.

Jeremy
07-09-2012, 07:13 PM
Depends. A lottery pick, probably not. 15 on back, yes.

I think any pick higher than 20 is a no from me but any pick 20-30 I would do.

vnzla81
07-09-2012, 07:14 PM
No doubt I would do it, at least we know what we are getting.

cdash
07-09-2012, 07:16 PM
In a vacuum, yes. In order to facilitate Dwight Howard to Brooklyn, no.

Doddage
07-09-2012, 07:16 PM
Duh. Especially if it's lotto protected.

pacer4ever
07-09-2012, 07:18 PM
Only 1 guy next year in the draft that I love currently Tony Mitchell of NT he would be perfect for us . I bet he goes in the lottery though I know I would take him there. Been watching some guys who are projected in the 2nd rders and don't like them at all compared too last year I think next years draft wont be that deep.


I don't like Brooks game at all so this is tough for me but I'd probably do it depending on other options.

EDIT: the GIF on this page pretty much shows why I dont like his game http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/2/24/2822976/marshon-brooks-airball-gif

He does stuff like that every game normally quite a few times.

troyc11a
07-09-2012, 07:20 PM
No doubt I would do it, at least we know what we are getting.

But do we really need a scorer off the bench?

ilive4sports
07-09-2012, 07:24 PM
In a vacuum, yes. In order to facilitate Dwight Howard to Brooklyn, no.
meh, if its not us, its someone else. might as well try and get something out of it.

cdash
07-09-2012, 07:26 PM
meh, if its not us, its someone else. might as well try and get something out of it.

Probably, but I'd rather us not be part of the problem.

Sparhawk
07-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Top 15 protected, then hell yes.

Cheap backup. Use any leftover money and get a decent PF. Hans sucks!

Professor S
07-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Without question.

rel
07-09-2012, 07:29 PM
In a heartbeat.
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kent beckley
07-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Looks like the Clippers bit

imbtyler
07-09-2012, 07:32 PM
Sure. He'd be cheaper than OJ or Lee, and he would do basically the same thing (as long as he didn't disappear from the bench). However, I always enjoyed the Brooks-George class rivalry whenever we played the Nets. Part of me would like to see that continue, with George continuing to dominate.

Sparhawk
07-09-2012, 07:40 PM
I'd have to think our first rounder would be better than the Clips next season. They will likely win more games than us.

Would love Brooks.

troyc11a
07-09-2012, 07:41 PM
Looks like the Clippers bit

What? Their pick will be lower than ours for sure!

Shade
07-09-2012, 07:41 PM
In a vacuum, yes. In order to facilitate Dwight Howard to Brooklyn, no.

It's going to happen regardless. Might as well get something out of it.

Pacer Fan
07-09-2012, 07:43 PM
Please!

Doddage
07-09-2012, 07:50 PM
If we got Brooks, we'd def need Gerald Green to round it out. PG/Brooks/Green would be awesome.

Steagles
07-09-2012, 08:11 PM
IDGAF about being part of the problem if we get a piece to help us beat the problem.

cdash
07-09-2012, 08:19 PM
IDGAF about being part of the problem if we get a piece to help us beat the problem.

If it were a significant piece, I would agree. Needless to say, I don't see Brooks as a significant piece.

rexnom
07-09-2012, 08:22 PM
Wait, why will the Clippers' pick certainly be worse than ours? We had a better record than they did this year.

If they're jumping at this and we're not, it seems foolish not to take them up on it.

rexnom
07-09-2012, 08:25 PM
It's nice to get guys for parts you need on rookie contracts but I think you're better off if those guys aren't in critical positions for your success (perfect example: Miles Plumlee).

Miller_time04
07-09-2012, 08:29 PM
Id do it in a heartbeat. Dude looks promising and we need a scorer off the bench like that. Sign me up.

Dr. Awesome
07-09-2012, 08:42 PM
I think any pick higher than 20 is a no from me but any pick 20-30 I would do.

You kidding. I'd probably do any pick after 10. I like the kid a lot.

odeez
07-09-2012, 08:43 PM
YEP YEP YEP ! ! !

Dr. Awesome
07-09-2012, 08:44 PM
If it were a significant piece, I would agree. Needless to say, I don't see Brooks as a significant piece.

I think he will be a good starting SG in this league. Guy plays hard, can score, and not a bad defender.

Jeremy
07-09-2012, 08:44 PM
You kidding. I'd probably do any pick after 10. I like the kid a lot.

I don't see anything more than a decent role player in him. I could be wrong though. I just value draft picks a lot.

cdash
07-09-2012, 08:52 PM
I think he will be a good starting SG in this league. Guy plays hard, can score, and not a bad defender.

Maybe. Like I said, I'm fine with trading a first round pick for the guy. I just want no part of helping that whiney ***** Howard get to where he wants to go.

Pacer Fan
07-09-2012, 09:34 PM
Can't go wrong with his skill set and potential for a draft pick and that salary.

MarShon Brook 12/13 - $1,160,040 13/14 - $1,210,080(TO) 14/15 - $2,179,354(TO) 15 / 16 - $3,201,471(QO)

xIndyFan
07-09-2012, 09:52 PM
I think he will be a good starting SG in this league. Guy plays hard, can score, and not a bad defender.

Brooks has one NBA skill. And it is an important one. He can score. That's it though. he is undersized and not a good defender at all.

Undoubtedly worth a draft pick, a late pick, but if he gets real minutes next year, the pacer are :censored:

Steagles
07-09-2012, 09:54 PM
If it were a significant piece, I would agree. Needless to say, I don't see Brooks as a significant piece.

See I think he will be in the future.

Sparhawk
07-09-2012, 09:56 PM
Brooks has one NBA skill. And it is an important one. He can score. That's it though. he is undersized and not a good defender at all.

Undoubtedly worth a draft pick, a late pick, but if he gets real minutes next year, the pacer are :censored:

When the hell did 6'5" start being undersized for a SG? Can someone help me with this? I think 6'5" is pretty damn good. There seem to be a lot of 6'3"-6'4" sg coming into the league.

granger
07-09-2012, 10:21 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEEELL NO.
In the second half of season, with tons of oportunity, playing for ****ing nets (which lots of good teems saw as oportunuty resting after geting big lead) this guy avareged 11.1/3.0/2.6 in 28.6 mpg, with (.417/.250/.757) and turn the ball over 2.3 times. He got outplayed by Gerald Green. Yes he was rookie but 23 year old one.

Give that minutes to Orlando Johnson or Stephanson. I dont want weekass Sg's like Mayo either.

Sparhawk
07-09-2012, 10:25 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEEELL NO.
In the second half of season, with tons of oportunity, playing for ****ing nets (which lots of good teems saw as oportunuty resting after geting big lead) this guy avareged 11.1/3.0/2.6 in 28.6 mpg, with (.417/.250/.757) and turn the ball over 2.3 times. He got outplayed by Gerald Green. Yes he was rookie but 23 year old one.

Give that minutes to Orlando Johnson or Stephanson. I dont want weekass Sg's like Mayo either.

They don't call it the rookie wall for nothing.

xIndyFan
07-09-2012, 10:36 PM
When the hell did 6'5" start being undersized for a SG? Can someone help me with this? I think 6'5" is pretty damn good. There seem to be a lot of 6'3"-6'4" sg coming into the league.

6-4 according to DX. To me, that is undersized. Plus he is skinny. Watching him play here, he seems like tyler. the height number is not too bad, but he just plays shorter and smaller than his number indicate. IF Paul George ever figures out how to post someone, Brooks got no chance.

You're right about the smaller SG's coming into the league. noticed that. if it is a trend instead of a fad, it's a good thing for the pacers. The more guys in the league that George Hill can guard, the better that 40 million will start looking.

Wylder1324
07-10-2012, 12:33 AM
Look closer at Draft Express. It lists Marshon at 6'5.25 in shoes. Which is how your typical NBAer plays the game. It also shows him at 6'4.25 barefoot, which means that he didn't wear ridiculous shoes that give him 1.5-2 extra inches like a lot of these guys going to the combines. He is a legit 6'5 on the court and when you factor in that he has a freakish 7'1 wingspan he has all of the tools to succeed on defense. Will he do it….not sure but it is foolish to say that a guy who played solid D at times in ROOKIE season but was inconsistent….imagine that for a rook….will never play any D or that he is undersized. I wont be upset if the Pacers dont get into this deal because we dont know whats up behind the scenes…..but I would certainly take Marshon over anybody 20-30 which is most likely where we will be selecting in what is perceived to be a weak 2013 draft class.