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tadscout
07-01-2012, 05:56 PM
So many people have a misconception on the 'max' contract.

All 'max' contracts are not equal. Lebron and Hibbert wouldn't even be close in salary.

The new CBA added many variables to the 'max' contract. The 'max' is what that player is eligible for. The max Hibbert will get is vastly different than the max JO received, or currently what Chris Paul could get.

If Portland agrees to an offer sheet to 'max' Hibbert, I'm pretty sure it is the cheapest version of the max Roy or anyone could get.

Many felt Hibbert was worth 11-13 mil... The extra to match 14.5 shouldn't be the deal breaker for your most important/key player.

tadscout
07-01-2012, 09:49 PM
Why do I have a feeling the people that didn't understand this, didn't read this thread... well I tried, lol

Kraft
07-01-2012, 10:04 PM
When the sky is falling, there is no time to read threads like these.

But kudos for trying.

aamcguy
07-01-2012, 10:09 PM
They may have and just couldn't find anything to argue about. Knowing the facts and being upset that you have to pay more than you probably would are two different things.

In one sense, being forced to pay him more may be a blessing in disguise. Despite not being the best player on the team, he will have our fattest contract; probably whether we sign him ourself or are forced to match. Perhaps cutting down on future possible locker room issues due to contract size. To Hibbert, we are willing to pay him that much. To our other players, we wanted him but didn't value him that much technically.

Moral victories. :)

panthro_1
07-01-2012, 10:18 PM
I remember when he wasnt playing so well earlier this season....does anyone else?

ECKrueger
07-01-2012, 10:38 PM
What you need to do to help is explain how the max contact DOES work now.

3rdStrike
07-01-2012, 10:45 PM
It doesn't matter if the max is $20 or $20 billion. It's not our money. What matters and what people are concerned about is how much money will be left this season and next. Nobody cares if he's getting Bosh money. They care whether overpaying will handicap the team or not. It's not hard to understand.

ECKrueger
07-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Not signing Hibbert will handicap this team more than any potential contract would.

PacersHomer
07-01-2012, 10:52 PM
People would rather be ignorant and loud than realize they're wrong.

tadscout
07-01-2012, 10:59 PM
What you need to do to help is explain how the max contact DOES work now.

Here are the league-wide maximum salaries. Note that there are exceptions to the maximum salary (see question number 17 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q17)).
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Years in NBA1
Defined maximum salary
2011-12


0 - 6
25% of cap2
$12,922,194


7 - 9
30% of cap2
$15,506,632


10+
35% of cap2
$18,091,071

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A free agent's maximum salary in the first year of a new contract is never less than 105% of his salary in the last year of his previous contract. For example, a ten-year veteran free agent who most recently earned $20 million has a maximum salary of at least $21 million, even if that is above the league-wide maximum. A free agent does not need to remain with the same team in order to receive 105% of his previous salary, although the team that signs him is subject to the same salary cap restrictions as with any other free agent.A first round draft pick who completed all four years of his rookie scale contract, or a second round draft pick or an undrafted player who has four years of service, is eligible to receive a higher maximum salary if he meets certain criteria (see question number 17 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q17)).

Named to the All-NBA First, Second or Third team at least twice
Voted as a starter in the All-Star game at least twice
Named the NBA Most Valuable Player at least once

More info can be found HERE (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm)

LA_Confidential
07-01-2012, 11:20 PM
Problem is, people hear MAX and immediately think about $100million deals. Roys deal will be on Par with Nene, Tyson Chandler.

RamBo_Lamar
07-02-2012, 05:57 AM
Problem is, people hear MAX and immediately think about $100million deals. Roys deal will be on Par with Nene, Tyson Chandler.

This would be correct in my case...guilty as charged.

graphic-er
07-02-2012, 08:45 AM
What you need to do to help is explain how the max contact DOES work now.

How the max contract works now is that it allows a trend of young players who show just a little bit of talent to get paid way more than they should. THere are gonna be alot of guys over the next few years getting rookie max deals. I wouldn't be surprised to see some team offer Batum a max deal.

billbradley
07-02-2012, 08:48 AM
Does someone know the different cap hold numbers? If we match isn't it 6 or 7 mill?

So Hibbert would only cost as much as a backup center as far as our cap space is concerned?

xIndyFan
07-02-2012, 09:11 AM
Does someone know the different cap hold numbers? If we match isn't it 6 or 7 mill?

So Hibbert would only cost as much as a backup center as far as our cap space is concerned?

no, the 'cap hold' you refer to only last until Roy is signed. The cap hold is a roster charge to keep teams from using all their cap space on Free Agents, then signing their own 'Larry Bird' and 'Early Bird' free agents. The cap hold ends when the player has a contract or the team makes an offer.