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Anthem
03-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Our “Magic Number” is the number of Indy wins or other team’s losses that are required to secure a specific playoff spot.

I don’t see any way that we can catch Chicago and Miami, or be caught by the sub-500 teams New York, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Toronto, Detroit, New Jersey, Washington, and Charlotte. That leaves Indy in a group of 5 teams: Orlando, Atlanta, Indiana, Philadelphia, and Boston.

Here’s what we’ve got after tonight, then:

Team – (W-L) – Games Remaining

Orlando – (31-18) – 17
Atlanta – (29-20) – 17
Indiana – (28-19) – 19
Philadelphia – (27-21) – 18
Boston – (25-22) – 19

The highest number of wins Boston can get is their current win total (25) plus their games remaining (19). That gives 44, and the Pacers would have to get 45 wins to top them (I don’t count tiebreakers until the final weeks). The Pacers currently have 28 wins, and so they need a combination of 45-28=17 Pacer wins or Celtic losses to ensure the Pacers end up with a better record than the Celts. With that methodology, then, the magic numbers are as follows.

With 19 games remaining,
Orlando – 21
Atlanta – 19
Philadelphia – 18
Boston – 17

I'll be updating this every night for the rest of the season. Generally I'll just eyeball the scoreboard and update from there, but once a week or so I'll re-run the numbers from the standings just to make sure I haven't drifted.

In the meantime, let's hope for many losses for Orlando, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Boston. The Pacers have 19 games remaining, so all of these teams are well within our reach considering our supposed cakewalk schedule to end the season.

Hibbert
03-24-2012, 10:16 PM
Hey Anthem, not sure if you have ATL above us cause they have more wins but technically we are above them right now in the standings since we actually have a better win pct. Just a heads up.

vapacersfan
03-24-2012, 10:18 PM
I always enjoy these threads, thank you for posting (and thank you for the Pacers for making threads like this relevant again)

One question, I may be an idiot but I cannot follow what this line means: That Indy in a group of 5 teams: Orlando, Atlanta, Indiana, Philadelphia, and Boston.

Anthem
03-24-2012, 10:21 PM
One question, I may be an idiot but I cannot follow what this line means: That Indy in a group of 5 teams: Orlando, Atlanta, Indiana, Philadelphia, and Boston.
My bad. The missing word there is "leaves." As in there are 2 teams we can't catch and 8 teams that can't catch us. 15 Eastern conference teams, minus those 10, leaves us as one of 5 teams.

Anthem
03-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Hey Anthem, not sure if you have ATL above us cause they have more wins
Yup.

But they have fewer games remaining (like you said, they have a lower winning percentage), so their magic number isn't that high. When doing these calculations, though, the number of wins is the key stat. It'll all even out by the end.

vapacersfan
03-24-2012, 10:23 PM
So basically I am just an idiot :)

Anthem
03-24-2012, 11:04 PM
So basically I am just an idiot :)
:laugh: No, I edited the post.

pacers74
03-24-2012, 11:59 PM
Hopefully we can end up with at least the 4th/5th seed. 4th/5th, because Philly has to get the at least a 4th if they win their division. Right now we are the 6th seed and would have to play the Magic. I don't like that matchup with them having home court. Luckly our schedule the rest of the way looks to play out pretty good for us. If we just win the games against teams with losing records we will win another 11 games. Without looking at everyone else's remaining schedule that should move us up a few spots in the standings. So, as long as we take care of buisness and win the games we should we will be in great shape to start the playoffs.

PacersHomer
03-25-2012, 02:00 AM
We've already guaranteed that we finish above Charlotte! Woo hoo!

Also the magic number is 3 for above Washington, 5 for above New Jersey, 6 for above Toronto, 7 for above Detroit, 11 for above Cleveland, 13 for above Milwaukee, 14 for above New York, 28 for above Chicago and Miami.

I was curious to see the other magic numbers. I think we'll wrap up the playoff spot pretty damn soon.

Anthem
03-26-2012, 01:24 PM
Ok, here's the results of Sunday, March 25th.

Atlanta won (in quadruple OT), Boston won, Philly lost, Orlando and Indy didn't play.

Orlando – 21
Atlanta – 19
Philadelphia – 17
Boston – 17

Derek2k3
03-26-2012, 01:29 PM
This is great stuff, thanks Anthem.

This will most certainly improve the quality of my work from now until the playoffs, I won't be sitting at the office every day figuring this out :)

Sherlock
03-26-2012, 01:53 PM
Ok, here's the results of Sunday, March 25th.

Atlanta won (in quadruple OT), Boston won, Philly lost, Orlando and Indy didn't play.

Orlando – 21
Atlanta – 19
Philadelphia – 17
Boston – 17

So Pacers should be above 3 of the these 4 teams to have 1st round home court advantage.

Anthem
03-26-2012, 01:57 PM
This is great stuff, thanks Anthem.

This will most certainly improve the quality of my work from now until the playoffs, I won't be sitting at the office every day figuring this out :)
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That's crazy. Look at that 2005 thread... it's got a 4-digit thread number. Right now we're in the 70k range.

xtacy
03-26-2012, 02:22 PM
thanks anthem for putting your effort into this.

i hope we get 4 or 5th seed and play sixers. i sure don't want to play magic.

wintermute
03-26-2012, 03:53 PM
Atlanta is the one to watch. With the Atlantic division winner (either Philly or Boston) guaranteed the 4 seed, the Hawks and Pacers are basically fighting for the 5 and 6 seeds between them. The difference between 5 and 6 is huge - with the 5th seed you probably have homecourt against a weaker team, with the 6th seed you're facing Dwight Howard. Unfortunately, Atlanta seems to have the easier remaining schedule, and the Hawks going 3-0 in their recent b2b2b didn't do us any favors either.

Cactus Jax
03-26-2012, 04:23 PM
thanks anthem for putting your effort into this.

i hope we get 4 or 5th seed and play sixers. i sure don't want to play magic.

Really the only scenario where the Pacers play Orlando is if Orlando stays the 3 seed, and Indiana falls to the 6th seed, which is about what it's at right now. (Indy/Atlanta are tied for 5th atm) The Philly/Boston winner of the division is most likely going to be 4, and the loser is most likely going to be 7.

Anthem
03-26-2012, 10:00 PM
Pacers win! Everybody's Magic Number goes down by one!

Which is good, because Boston won, Orlando won, and Philly / Atlanta didn't play.

I'll take it! I had this predicted as a loss.

Orlando – 20
Atlanta – 18
Philadelphia – 16
Boston – 16

Derek2k3
03-27-2012, 10:42 AM
The Bulls lost, right?

Maybe Miami will slide to a 3, and the Pacers can steal a 2. Haha.

pacers101
03-27-2012, 10:17 PM
Atlanta loses to the Bucks tonight. Gives us a tiny bit of breathing room

Anthem
03-27-2012, 10:31 PM
Philly won, Atlanta lost, Orlando and Boston didn't play.

Orlando – 20
Atlanta – 17
Philadelphia – 16
Boston – 16

Sherlock
03-28-2012, 04:09 PM
If one put how many games left still, one can get how much chance Pacers have to be the 3rd or the 7th seeds.

Sorry, I am too lazy to look it up.

Anthem
03-28-2012, 10:20 PM
Man, a win would have been nice tonight. Orlando lost, Atlanta lost, Boston won, Philly didn't play.

With 17 games remaining:

Orlando – 19
Atlanta – 16
Philadelphia – 16
Boston – 16

Anthem
03-29-2012, 09:50 PM
Indy won, nobody else played. Sixteen games to go.

Orlando – 18
Atlanta – 15
Philadelphia – 15
Boston – 15

cinotimz
03-30-2012, 12:29 AM
Atlanta is the one to watch. With the Atlantic division winner (either Philly or Boston) guaranteed the 4 seed, the Hawks and Pacers are basically fighting for the 5 and 6 seeds between them. The difference between 5 and 6 is huge - with the 5th seed you probably have homecourt against a weaker team, with the 6th seed you're facing Dwight Howard. Unfortunately, Atlanta seems to have the easier remaining schedule, and the Hawks going 3-0 in their recent b2b2b didn't do us any favors either.

Atlanta is looking scarier all the time, in spite of losing the last 2. They have 14 games left and 6 of those games are against Toronto, Detroit and Charlotte. Ugh.

TheDavisBrothers
03-30-2012, 12:36 AM
Atlanta is looking scarier all the time, in spite of losing the last 2. They have 14 games left and 6 of those games are against Toronto, Detroit and Charlotte. Ugh.

We still have a pretty easy schedule, too. We have Was, Det, Tor, 2 Cle, 2 Mil, Min without Rubio now...

Sherlock
03-30-2012, 09:55 AM
So if Orlando lose two more game and us and we win two more games than Orlando,
we can still have the 3rd place.

16 game to go, there is still a chance.

PacersHomer
03-30-2012, 10:48 AM
So if Orlando lose two more game and us and we win two more games than Orlando,
we can still have the 3rd place.

16 game to go, there is still a chance.

I hope Orlando finishes ahead of us if Atlanta doesn't pass us. 5 seed>>>3 seed

Eleazar
03-30-2012, 12:10 PM
I hope Orlando finishes ahead of us if Atlanta doesn't pass us. 5 seed>>>3 seed

Yeah, I would rather play Philly too.

Derek2k3
03-30-2012, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I would rather play Philly too.

I'd rather play Philly in the first AND Chi in the 2nd.

However, I will not complain if the Pacers display the kind of consistency that they need to get the three seed. If they end up with the #3, that means they played out the season well. Won't hear me complaining.

Sorry for the off topic post. On topic: Pacers will need to work hard in the next what, 8 games, to keep the magic number low. SA, OKC, all teams with winning records (Except Washington). Gotta focus through this stretch.

Eleazar
03-30-2012, 02:58 PM
I'd rather play Philly in the first AND Chi in the 2nd.

However, I will not complain if the Pacers display the kind of consistency that they need to get the three seed. If they end up with the #3, that means they played out the season well. Won't hear me complaining.

Sorry for the off topic post. On topic: Pacers will need to work hard in the next what, 8 games, to keep the magic number low. SA, OKC, all teams with winning records (Except Washington). Gotta focus through this stretch.

Oh I completely agree, I just will be just as happy with the "4th" seed.

Anthem
03-31-2012, 12:01 AM
Philly lost, Orlando lost, Atlanta won, Boston won. Indy didn't play. Sixteen games to go.

Orlando – 17
Atlanta – 15
Boston – 15
Philadelphia – 14

Anthem
04-01-2012, 12:00 AM
We lost.

Philly beat Atlanta (great for us), Orlando and Boston didn't play. Fifteen games to go.

Orlando – 17
Boston – 15
Atlanta – 14
Philadelphia – 14

Nuntius
04-01-2012, 12:01 AM
This Philly win over Atlanta surely sweetened the bitter taste of our defeat :D

Steagles
04-01-2012, 01:44 AM
This Philly win over Atlanta surely sweetened the bitter taste of our defeat :D

Absolutely. I didn't get the chance to watch (I'm at a house full of college fans) but every time the Hawks, Bulls and Heat lose, I am happy, especially when it helps the Pacers

Anthem
04-01-2012, 09:50 PM
Pacers win! Pacers win!

Boston won, Orlando lost, Atlanta and Philly didn't play. And while it's outside the scope of the Magic Number Thread, Chicago and Miami both got spanked tonight. Fourteen games to play.

Orlando – 15
Boston – 14
Atlanta – 13
Philadelphia – 13

Anthem
04-01-2012, 09:50 PM
Pacers win! Pacers win!

Boston won, Orlando lost, Atlanta and Philly didn't play. And while it's outside the scope of the Magic Number Thread, Chicago and Miami both got spanked tonight. Fourteen games to play.

Orlando – 15
Boston – 14
Atlanta – 13
Philadelphia – 13

Anthem
04-03-2012, 12:37 AM
Nobody important played tonight. Keep calm and carry on.

TOP
04-03-2012, 12:42 AM
Bulls lost which only puts the Heat 1 loss behind the Bulls.

I really hope the Heat beat the Sixers tomorrow. I don't like that we're only two games ahead of the current 7th seed and only a half game behind the 3rd seed. 1st, 2nd and 8th shouldn't be an issue. It's crazy how wide open it is in the middle of the pack.

Anthem
04-03-2012, 10:12 PM
What a great night for the Magic Numbers.

Indiana beat New York. Philly lost to Miami. Orlando lost to Detroit. Boston and Atlanta didn't play. With 13 games left to play, we are very much a threat for that #3 seed.

Orlando – 13
Boston – 13
Atlanta – 12
Philadelphia – 11

The upcoming game against the Celtics is really looking big. And we have two more against Philly.

Sherlock
04-04-2012, 01:19 AM
Anyone familiar with the tie breaker situation?

I believe we have advantage over Boston only.

Anthem
04-04-2012, 08:28 AM
Anyone familiar with the tie breaker situation?

I believe we have advantage over Boston only.
I generally don't track tiebreakers until the games remaining are down into single digits. These numbers are the games required to beat them outright.

Any time the magic number is less than or equal to the Games remaining, it's a good thing. If the Pacers go 10-3 the rest of the way, 3 Orlando or Boston losses puts them behind us. 2 Atlanta losses or 1 Philly loss does the same.

We are very much in control of our own destiny.

TOP
04-04-2012, 09:42 PM
Celtics lose.

Sixers lose.

Hawks win.

Anthem
04-04-2012, 09:44 PM
Boston lost at the buzzer to the Spurs. Philly lost, Atlanta won, and Orlando didn't play. Oh yeah, and the Pacers won. A dozen games left.

Orlando – 12
Boston – 11
Atlanta – 11
Philadelphia – 9

RobfromPacers
04-04-2012, 10:08 PM
Boston lost at the buzzer to the Spurs. Philly lost, Atlanta won, and Orlando didn't play. Oh yeah, and the Pacers won. A dozen games left.

Orlando – 12
Boston – 11
Atlanta – 11
Philadelphia – 9

Hey Anthem - could you explain why you aren't tracking Milwaukee? I get Detroit (1 game away), but I believe the Magic Number for Milwaukee is 6. If that's the case, then a combo of 6 Pacers win or 6 Bucks losses (or a combo) secures a playoff spot as it would leave 8 teams: Chi, Miami, Boston, Philly, Orlando, Atlanta, New York, and us.

Is that right?

I ask w/ complete respect. Always love this thread.

Anthem
04-04-2012, 11:23 PM
Hey Anthem - could you explain why you aren't tracking Milwaukee? I get Detroit (1 game away), but I believe the Magic Number for Milwaukee is 6. If that's the case, then a combo of 6 Pacers win or 6 Bucks losses (or a combo) secures a playoff spot as it would leave 8 teams: Chi, Miami, Boston, Philly, Orlando, Atlanta, New York, and us.

Is that right?

I ask w/ complete respect. Always love this thread.
I don't see any way I could take that question disrespectfully. Although I tried. :D

I'm not tracking Milwakee for the same reason I'm not tracking New York... they're not a credible threat for our playoff position.

I'm also not tracking Miami or Chicago, because we're not a credible threat for theirs.

Derek2k3
04-04-2012, 11:27 PM
I don't see any way I could take that question disrespectfully. Although I tried. :D

I'm not tracking Milwakee for the same reason I'm not tracking New York... they're not a credible threat for our playoff position.

I'm also not tracking Miami or Chicago, because we're not a credible threat for theirs.

Yeah, this isn't a "Magic Number to MAKE the Playoffs" right? It's what they need to clinch a seed HIGHER than the teams listed, correct?

At least, thats what I thought. My whole life may have been a lie up to this point.

:eek:

Hicks
04-05-2012, 12:02 AM
Magic Number for the #3 seed as opposed to the usual Magic Number for the #8 seed.

Anthem
04-05-2012, 12:09 AM
Yeah, this isn't a "Magic Number to MAKE the Playoffs" right? It's what they need to clinch a seed HIGHER than the teams listed, correct?
Correct. Once a team's magic number reaches zero, they can't catch us.


At least, thats what I thought. My whole life may have been a lie up to this point.

:eek:
Played Portal tonight. The cake is a lie!

naptownmenace
04-05-2012, 12:48 PM
If you're curious, the Pacers Magic number to clinch a playoff spot is 5.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/easternwinmagicnumbers.html

Naptown_Seth
04-05-2012, 01:01 PM
Magic Number for the #3 seed as opposed to the usual Magic Number for the #8 seed.
Isn't it nice that this is where we are at psychologically now.

You'll note the total absence of any "draft position" magic number counter thread by me because it's virtually meaningless this year.


At this point tracking Philly is just a feel-good cause those dudes are :censored:ed. Nice to watch their number dwindle though.

Philly fans do need to be running their magic number vs MIL and NYK. Ouch.

Naptown_Seth
04-05-2012, 01:02 PM
Played Portal tonight. The cake is a lie!
Not for the first time ever, certainly?

Anthem
04-05-2012, 03:51 PM
At this point tracking Philly is just a feel-good cause those dudes are :censored:ed. Nice to watch their number dwindle though.
I expected them to fall a bit, but not this much. Wow.

Regardless, when I started tracking them they seemed like a legit threat, and at this point we've gone far enough that we might as well keep tracking until they're mathematically eliminated.

Shouldn't be long. :devil:

Anthem
04-05-2012, 03:53 PM
Not for the first time ever, certainly?
Nope, I just built a new PC and saw Portal on my Steam account, so I dusted it off and ran through it. But it's been long enough that I don't remember solutions to any of the puzzles, so I've had to figure them all out again. Which makes it fun.

TOP
04-05-2012, 08:13 PM
Knicks up 56-44 on the Magic at the half.

TOP
04-05-2012, 08:14 PM
Howard 0/2 0pts 4rebs 1blk 1stlk 3to's

Speed
04-05-2012, 08:34 PM
Howard 0/2 0pts 4rebs 1blk 1stlk 3to's

Pretty amazing Van Gundy can still coach with that knife protruding from his back like that.

TOP
04-05-2012, 09:01 PM
76-61 Knicks after 3.

1/5fg 0/2ft 2pts 6rebs 2blks 1ast 1stl 5to's 4fouls for Howard.

Almost like he doesn't want to play and is intentionally sucking.

Derek2k3
04-05-2012, 09:33 PM
Magic lose! Dwight is killing this team, I honestly believe the 6 or 7 seed is realistic for them.

aamcguy
04-05-2012, 09:38 PM
Tonight feels so wrong....rooting for both the Knicks and the Bulls.

TOP
04-05-2012, 09:42 PM
Tonight feels so wrong....rooting for both the Knicks and the Bulls.

Hahaha! I just said that in the other thread "Random whatever".

Nice, dude. I'm with ya

beast23
04-05-2012, 11:04 PM
Tonight feels so wrong....rooting for both the Knicks and the Bulls.
Yeah...strange. Lucky for us no one clued them in that the Knicks would actually help the Pacers by winning. With their renewed hatred of all things Pacers, they might have lost on purpose. All I have to say is thank you, Knicks.

spazzxb
04-05-2012, 11:27 PM
Kinda nuts that the magic have dropped all the way to the sixth seed. Insanely fast how we went from chasing them to being inline to play them( with the home court advantage) if the playoffs started today.

TOP
04-05-2012, 11:34 PM
67 Chicago 66 Boston headed into the 4th. Shiiz

TheDavisBrothers
04-05-2012, 11:38 PM
Tonight feels so wrong....rooting for both the Knicks and the Bulls.

Don't root for the Bulls, you want them to lose because you want Chicago to fall to the 2 seed so the potential 2nd round matchup is Chi not Mia...

Anthem
04-06-2012, 12:09 AM
Orlando and Boston lost, Atlanta and Philly didn't play. We'll need all the cushion we can get, since our two hardest remaining games are this weekend. Twelve games to go.

Orlando – 11
Atlanta – 11
Boston – 10
Philadelphia – 9

So first we were worried about Philly, then Orlando. Now it's Atlanta we need to be rooting against.

PGisthefuture
04-06-2012, 12:18 AM
Glad I don't have to root for Chicago or New York anymore. Magic and Atlanta are our biggest competitors for the 3rd seed in my opinion.

Anthem
04-06-2012, 12:24 AM
Glad I don't have to root for Chicago or New York anymore. Magic and Atlanta are our biggest competitors for the 3rd seed in my opinion.
Boston and Atlanta. I think Orlando is done.

CableKC
04-06-2012, 12:54 AM
Boston and Atlanta. I think Orlando is done.
Do you mean who we will likely play in the first round?

PGisthefuture
04-06-2012, 01:05 AM
Boston and Atlanta. I think Orlando is done.

Eh, they've had slumps like this earlier when Dwight drama was happening and they got over it. If the Dwight drama continues, then yeah you're right...

daschysta
04-06-2012, 01:27 AM
Boston and Atlanta. I think Orlando is done.

Boston I don't think can catch us with a 3 game lead and the time remaining, considering how hard their schedule is. Atlanta imo is our biggest threat, their schedule has a **** easy stretch in it coming up, but they finish off with a relatively tough sched.

Our destiny is in our hands, so let's just take care of business.

ndcoltsnpacers
04-06-2012, 01:45 AM
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if we only lost 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Schedule is just that easy. Get one out of two this weekend and we're home free.

Anthem
04-06-2012, 08:43 AM
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if we only lost 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Schedule is just that easy. Get one out of two this weekend and we're home free.
I'm worried we lose both of this weekend's games. Even if we do, though, we might still be ok.

travmil
04-06-2012, 08:51 AM
I don't think it would be tragedy to lose to OKC, especially if we make a good show out of it. That team is so good. Boston, I would expect us to beat them, but obviously they are capable of having great games where they would beat any team.

TOP
04-06-2012, 10:44 AM
Boston I don't think can catch us with a 3 game lead and the time remaining, considering how hard their schedule is. Atlanta imo is our biggest threat, their schedule has a **** easy stretch in it coming up, but they finish off with a relatively tough sched.

Our destiny is in our hands, so let's just take care of business.

The only problem with Boston is we play the Thunder tonight and the Celtics tomorrow. If we lose both, they're neck and neck with 10 games to go.

PacerPenguins
04-06-2012, 10:46 AM
The only problem with Boston is we play the Thunder tonight and the Celtics tomorrow. If we lose both, they're neck and neck with 10 games to go.

we would still be 1.5 games up and boston has a really tough schedule....im not too worried

TOP
04-06-2012, 10:47 AM
12 games remaining...

43-13 Bulls
40-14 Thunder
33-21 Pacers
30-24 Celtics
29-25 Sixers
29-25 @Sixers
26-28 Bucks
26-28 @Bucks
25-31 T'wolves
21-33 Pistons
20-35 Raptors
17-25 @Cavaliers
17-35 Cavaliers
323-316

5 opponents above .500. 7 opponents below .500

9 home games. 3 away games.

10 east opponents(6 division opponents). 2 west opponents




Schedule looks even better after we get Boston and Oklahoma City out of the way.

Anthem
04-06-2012, 12:31 PM
I don't think it would be tragedy to lose to OKC, especially if we make a good show out of it. That team is so good. Boston, I would expect us to beat them, but obviously they are capable of having great games where they would beat any team.
Boston barely lost to the Spurs, then barely lost to the Bulls. They're gonna be looking to break the streak, they'll have a day of rest while we're coming off a back-to-back, and they know they're gunning for our spot.

I'm generally an optimist, but I don't feel good about that game at all. If we get a split on this weekend's games then I'll consider us a lock for the #3 seed. We can get it even if we lose both games, but it'll be harder.

Peck
04-06-2012, 12:40 PM
Boston barely lost to the Spurs, then barely lost to the Bulls. They're gonna be looking to break the streak, they'll have a day of rest while we're coming off a back-to-back, and they know they're gunning for our spot.

I'm generally an optimist, but I don't feel good about that game at all. If we get a split on this weekend's games then I'll consider us a lock for the #3 seed. We can get it even if we lose both games, but it'll be harder.

It's just our d@mn luck becuase both OKC & Boston are riding 2 game losing streaks.

CableKC
04-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Boston barely lost to the Spurs, then barely lost to the Bulls. They're gonna be looking to break the streak, they'll have a day of rest while we're coming off a back-to-back, and they know they're gunning for our spot.

I'm generally an optimist, but I don't feel good about that game at all. If we get a split on this weekend's games then I'll consider us a lock for the #3 seed. We can get it even if we lose both games, but it'll be harder.
I'm a pessimist.....so I'm a worst-cast scenario type of guy....I don't think that the Pacers will win both games. I'm guessing that the OKC game will be like the Spurs game.....and the Celtics game will be closer. If there is a time that I want to use a guy like Fesenko in a "break in case of emergency" type scenario where we add considerable size and try to shutdown the paint...it's in the Celtics game. When you have KG playing the Center position...it's time to throw considerable size at him and see how he does.

Anthem
04-06-2012, 12:49 PM
I'm a pessimist.....so I'm a worst-cast scenario type of guy....I don't think that the Pacers will win both games. I'm guessing that the OKC game will be like the Spurs game.....and the Celtics game will be closer. If there is a time that I want to use a guy like Fesenko in a "break in case of emergency" type scenario where we add considerable size and try to shutdown the paint...it's in the Celtics game. When you have KG playing the Center position...it's time to throw considerable size at him and see how he does.
If you're a pessimist, the default assumption has to be that the Pacers will lose both. That's clearly the worst-case scenario. Splitting would be a fantastic outcome. If we win both, lock us in for the second round and maybe the third, because this team has really turned a corner.

CableKC
04-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Don't root for the Bulls, you want them to lose because you want Chicago to fall to the 2 seed so the potential 2nd round matchup is Chi not Mia...
The one thing that you have to realize is how good the Bulls are now. DRose has been out for 12 games since March 14th and they have gone 8-4 without him. They are beating a wide range of lottery and Playoff bound Teams without DRose. IMHO....the Bulls are a frickin scary Team and a Team that I do not want to face in the Playoffs.

I'm really torn on which Team I'd rather face in the 2nd round....but at this point....I'm leaning towards throwing our depth and size ( that means actually Fesenko ) at the Heat than facing a fairly deep and disciplined Bulls Team.

beast23
04-06-2012, 01:02 PM
If you're a pessimist, the default assumption has to be that the Pacers will lose both. That's clearly the worst-case scenario. Splitting would be a fantastic outcome. If we win both, lock us in for the second round and maybe the third, because this team has really turned a corner.
If we win both, great. But if we are going to lose only one, perhaps the bball gods can see that we lose to OC and not to Boston. Not a lot to ask, right?

Peck
04-06-2012, 01:06 PM
If we win both, great. But if we are going to lose only one, perhaps the bball gods can see that we lose to OC and not to Boston. Not a lot to ask, right?

You know I'm not sure which would be better.

I think beating OKC at home in front of a large crowd would really ramp up the news coverage. If Danny outplays Durrant (one can dream can't they) then the recent feel good story's about him will not only increase but skyrocket.

I think almost anybody would be sympathetic if they win the first and lose the second.

RWB
04-06-2012, 01:10 PM
Fans better be ready for a VERY physical game (OKC). Going to be some tempers flare in this one I believe.

Anthem
04-06-2012, 09:57 PM
What a win! This team is legit, ladies and gents. That win knocks all the magic numbers down by one, which is good because Orlando, Boston, and Philly didn't play and Atlanta won. Eleven games left.

Orlando – 10
Atlanta – 10
Boston – 9
Philadelphia – 8

For the first time, our magic number for all four teams is lower than our remaining number of games. That means that if Atlanta went undefeated the rest of the season, we'd still come out on top if we only lost one game. We control our own destiny from here on.

Will Galen
04-06-2012, 11:08 PM
We control our own destiny from here on.


We've had control of our own destiny for about a week. Ever since Orlando dropped one game behind us in the lost column.

beast23
04-07-2012, 12:05 AM
You know I'm not sure which would be better.

I think beating OKC at home in front of a large crowd would really ramp up the news coverage. If Danny outplays Durrant (one can dream can't they) then the recent feel good story's about him will not only increase but skyrocket.

I think almost anybody would be sympathetic if they win the first and lose the second.
I think you were right. A home win vs OC is/was much more important than either possible outcome vs Boston. We had a sellout despite the fact that a lot of folks are still out of town on spring break.

Sparhawk
04-07-2012, 08:02 AM
11 games and a lot of teams that the Pacers should beat. Let's ride out on a high note!

TOP
04-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Not the night we wanted. We lose and Hawks, Magic, Celtics win. Bucks also won and Sixers lost.

Bucks are 13-4 in their last 17 games. Not the easy wins I once thought they'd be.



10 games remaining...

43-13 Bulls
34-22 Pacers
29-26 Sixers
29-26 @Sixers
28-28 Bucks
28-28 @Bucks
25-32 T'wolves
21-34 Pistons
20-36 Raptors
18-35 @Cavaliers
18-35 Cavaliers
259-315

5 opponents at or above .500. 5 opponents below .500

7 home games. 3 away games.

9 east opponents(6 division opponents). 1 west opponent

Anthem
04-07-2012, 11:01 PM
Ouch. Pretty much nothing went right tonight. Boston beat us, Orlando beat Philly (not a threat to us anyway), and Atlanta beat Charlotte (how could they not?).

Orlando – 10
Atlanta – 10
Boston – 9
Philadelphia – 7

Ten games to go. Time to rack up some wins.

Naptown_Seth
04-07-2012, 11:09 PM
I know we weren't tracking it, but I'll go ahead and say it.

Magic number of 5 to clinch the playoffs (MIL).

Teams "eliminated" by the Pacers already:
Charlotte
Washington
Cleveland
New Jersey
Toronto
Detroit

That's a nice list with 10 games to go.

Of course then there's Chicago who's magic number to clinch the division over Indy and the #2 seed is 2, "eliminating" every other East team besides Miami. They might be able to rest guys for 3-4 games even.

Anthem
04-08-2012, 12:18 AM
Of course then there's Chicago who's magic number to clinch the division over Indy and the #2 seed is 2, "eliminating" every other East team besides Miami. They might be able to rest guys for 3-4 games even.
Sounds good to me... we play them the last game of the season.

CableKC
04-08-2012, 01:57 AM
I've lost track....it looks like we are going to be playing the Hawks or the Magic right?

It looks like Horford is going to return by the Playoffs.....which Team would you rather play in the 1st round?

I'm leaning towards the Magic....and hope that their 3pt shooting won't hold up for an entire 7 game series.

wintermute
04-08-2012, 07:21 AM
I've lost track....it looks like we are going to be playing the Hawks or the Magic right?

It looks like Horford is going to return by the Playoffs.....which Team would you rather play in the 1st round?

I'm leaning towards the Magic....and hope that their 3pt shooting won't hold up for an entire 7 game series.

It's gotten murkier if anything with Indiana, Orlando, and Atlanta all within a game of each other. It's looking like Boston has that 4 seed locked up, so that means Indiana, Orlando, and Atlanta will get seeds 3, 5, and 6 among them. 5 seed will face Boston, 3 and 6 each other.

Of Orlando, Atlanta, and Boston, Orlando should be easiest if they can't get past their turmoil. On paper, I think they're the strongest team though.

Anthem
04-08-2012, 11:11 PM
Man, we are not getting ANY help. Boston beats Philly, Orlando and Atlanta didn't play. Ten games to go.

Orlando – 10
Atlanta – 10
Boston – 9
Philadelphia – 6

15th parallel
04-09-2012, 12:22 AM
With NY already tied with Philly, do we need to add them to the list?

Anthem
04-09-2012, 01:11 AM
With NY already tied with Philly, do we need to add them to the list?
Sure. They're still technically in the running, and it's Sunday so I re-run the numbers from scratch anyway. Base calculations are as follows:

Atlanta - 10
Orlando - 10
Boston - 9
New York - 6
Philadelphia - 6
Milwaukee - 5

Now that we're 10 games out, I start calculating tiebreakers. That's a real eye-opener for me... we're currently not winning a single tiebreaker.
- Indy loses 1st tiebreaker to Orlando (3-1), Atlanta (2-1), New York (2-1)
- Indy loses 2nd tiebreaker to Boston, as their conference record of 25-13 beats our 22-17.
- Indy can still win the 1st tiebreaker with the Sixers (1-1 with 2 remaining) and Bucks (1-0 with 2 remaining)

So the original magic numbers stand. In order to get a higher seed, we need to beat these teams outright.

It's pretty concerning, though, to realize every playoff team in the East has a winning percentage against us. I don't think I've ever seen that in a high seed before.

Eleazar
04-09-2012, 01:34 AM
It's pretty concerning, though, to realize every playoff team in the East has a winning percentage against us. I don't think I've ever seen that in a high seed before.

Weird things can happen in a condensed season.

15th parallel
04-09-2012, 01:42 AM
It's pretty concerning, though, to realize every playoff team in the East has a winning percentage against us. I don't think I've ever seen that in a high seed before.

That record was compensated with a good win percentage against the West teams, that is why despite most of our losses against East playoff teams, we are still on top 4. Also, our standings is not that far with teams like Orlando and Atlanta with only a half-game to full game advantage only, so it's not that surprising.

Phree Refill
04-09-2012, 07:19 AM
Thus far, we've also played the fewest amount of division games than any other team in the entire league.

Anthem
04-09-2012, 10:05 PM
Well, Detroit did us no favors, losing in a big way to Orlando. Maybe they'll be overconfident and lose their next game. One can hope.

Pacers squeaked out a win against an awful Raptors team, and nobody else played (edit: Except the Bucks, who lost). Interesting night in that regard.

Nine games left.

Atlanta - 9
Orlando - 9
Boston - 8
New York - 5
Philadelphia - 5
Milwaukee - 3

Sandman21
04-09-2012, 10:25 PM
Uhm, Milwaukee just lost to OKC. Doesn't that make our magic number 3?

Anthem
04-09-2012, 11:49 PM
Uhm, Milwaukee just lost to OKC. Doesn't that make our magic number 3?
Yep, thanks. Wasn't used to tracking them and glanced right over that.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 01:01 AM
Here is the remaining schedules for the Magic, Hawks, Pacers and Celtics:

Hawks

Wed, Apr 11 @Boston ( Road, Playoff Team )
Fri, Apr 13 @Orlando ( Road, Playoff Team )
Sun, Apr 15 vsToronto ( Home, Lottery Team )
Mon, Apr 16 @Toronto ( Road, Lottery Team )
Wed, Apr 18 vsDetroit ( Road, Lottery Team )
Fri, Apr 20 vsBoston ( Home, Playoff Team )
Sun, Apr 22 vsNY Knicks ( Home, Playoff Team )
Tue, Apr 24 vsLos Angeles ( Home, Playoff Team )
Thu, Apr 26 vsDallas ( Home, Playoff Team )

9 Total Games
4 Road Games Left / 2 Road Games against Playoff Teams / 2 Road Games against Lottery Teams
5 Home Games Left / 4 Home Games against Playoff Teams / 1 Home Game against Lottery Teams
6 Total Games against Playoff Teams / 3 against Lottery Teams

Celtics

Tue, Apr 10 @Miami ( Road, Playoff Team )
Wed, Apr 11 vsAtlanta ( Home, Playoff Team )
Fri, Apr 13 @Toronto ( Road, Lottery Team )
Sat, Apr 14 @New Jersey ( Road, Lottery Team )
Sun, Apr 15 @Charlotte ( Road, Lottery Team )
Tue, Apr 17 @NY Knicks ( Road, Playoff? Team )
Wed, Apr 18 vsOrlando ( Home, Playoff Team )
Fri, Apr 20 @Atlanta ( Road, Playoff Team )
Tue, Apr 24 vsMiami ( Home, Playoff Team )
Thu, Apr 26 vsMilwaukee ( Home, Playoff? Team )

10 Total Games
6 Road Games Left / 3 Road Games against Playoff Teams / 3 Road Games against Lottery Teams
4 Home Games Left / 4 Home Games against Playoff Teams / 0 Home Games against Lottery Teams
7 Total Games against Playoff Teams / 3 against Lottery Teams

Magic

Tue, Apr 10 @Washington ( Road, Lottery Team )
Fri, Apr 13 vsAtlanta ( Home, Playoff Team )
Sun, Apr 15 @Cleveland ( Road, Lottery Team )
Mon, Apr 16 vsPhiladelphia ( Home, Playoff Team )
Wed, Apr 18 @Boston ( Road, Playoff Team )
Sat, Apr 21 @Utah ( Road, Playoff? Team )
Sun, Apr 22 @Denver ( Road, Playoff? Team )
Wed, Apr 25 vsCharlotte ( Home, Lottery Team )
Thu, Apr 26 @Memphis ( Road, Playoff Team )

9 Total Games
6 Road Games Left / 4 Road Games against Playoff Teams / 2 Road Games against Lottery Teams
3 Home Games Left / 2 Home Games against Playoff Teams / 1 Home Game against Lottery Teams
7 Total Games against Playoff Teams / 3 against Lottery Teams

Pacers

Wed, Apr 11 @Cleveland ( Road, Lottery Team )
Fri, Apr 13 vsCleveland ( Home, Lottery Team )
Sat, Apr 14 @Milwaukee ( Road, Playoff? Team )
Mon, Apr 16 vsMinnesota ( Road, Lottery Team )
Tue, Apr 17 @Philadelphia ( Road, Playoff Team )
Thu, Apr 19 vsMilwaukee ( Home, Playoff? Team )
Sat, Apr 21 vsPhiladelphia ( Home, Playoff Team )
Mon, Apr 23 vsDetroit ( Home, Lottery Team )
Wed, Apr 25 vsChicago ( Home, Playoff Team )

9 Total Games
4 Road Games Left / 2 Road Games against Playoff Teams / 2 Lottery against Lottery Teams
5 Home Games Left / 3 Home games against Playoff Teams / 2 Home Games against Lottery Teams
5 Total Games against Playoff Teams / 4 against Lottery Teams

Okay...what's the worst case scenario? 6th seed with no home court advantage against ( likely ) the Magic or Hawks?

Anyone have any analysis or thoughts for the Celtics/Hawks/Magic schedule?

- The Celtics and Magic both have 6 Road Games with the Magic having 4 of the 6 against Playoff bound Teams.
- Between the 3 Teams...it would appear that the Hawks has a slightly easier route since they play 6 ( with 4 at Home against Playoff Teams ).

I think that we can easily go 4W-5L for the season....give or take a game. I don't think that the Bulls will rest their Starters with such a slim lead over the Heat and Thunder for Home Court Advantage throughout the East and the overall Championship. I have a feeling that those Tie breakers are really going to come back and bite us in the end. That...and the assumption that I DO NOT THINK that we can take Teams for granted ( like I think we did against the Raptors ) and really stomp down on Teams that we have to beat.

NOTE - Kyrie Irving may not play in at least one of the two games ( he's been out for the last week and MAY be shutdown for the rest of the season ) :pray:

ilive4sports
04-10-2012, 01:13 AM
I think its far more likely that we go 9-0 than go 4-5 to close out the season. Chicago is the only game I can see us losing to be honest.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 01:32 AM
I think its far more likely that we go 9-0 than go 4-5 to close out the season. Chicago is the only game I can see us losing to be honest.
Not if we take the Lottery Teams for granted and "took the foot off of the pedal" against the Raptors in the 4th QTR.

ilive4sports
04-10-2012, 01:40 AM
Not if we take the Lottery Teams for granted and "took the foot off of the pedal" against the Raptors in the 4th QTR.

we were also missing our starting point guard and won the game.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 01:46 AM
we were also missing our starting point guard and won the game.
Don't get me wrong.....I'm glad that we won....I am just trying to point out that we have to have a killer attitude against Teams that we should be beating. We shouldn't let the Linus Kleiza's of the world nearly beat us.

Nuntius
04-10-2012, 02:14 AM
We shouldn't let the Linus Kleiza's of the world nearly beat us.

There are not a lot Linas Kleiza's around the world.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 03:06 AM
There are not a lot Linas Kleiza's around the world.
I hope not....cuz I don't want to play another Lottery Team that has a scrub Starter that can bring them from a double-digit deficit to nearly win a game against us in the 4th QTR.

Eleazar
04-10-2012, 11:50 AM
we were also missing our starting point guard and won the game.

It isn't like there is much of a drop off from out starting PG to our 3rd string PG.

Anthem
04-10-2012, 11:59 AM
- Between the 3 Teams...it would appear that the Hawks has a slightly easier route since they play 6 ( with 4 at Home against Playoff Teams ).
But look who they play... 2 against Boston, Orlando, Knicks, LA, and Dallas. That's a lot of hard games at the end of the season.

We really do have a much easier schedule than Atlanta or Boston. Orlando, on the other hand, has a relatively easy walk to the end as well. If we can stay ahead of them, we could land the 3 seed, give Boston the 4, and then Boston would play Orlando at the 5.

Basically, we just need to keep winning.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 01:25 PM
I figure that I'd add this here since it's related.


http://news-herald.com/articles/2012/04/10/sports/doc4f8327d7511fa816297459.txt

By Bob Finnan
RFinnan@News-Herald.com
@BobCavsinsider

Reinforcements might not be on the way as quickly as the Cavaliers had hoped.

Center Anderson Varejao is still apparently feeling some soreness in his fractured right wrist. He’s starting to be more active in practice, but is still being kept out of contact drills.

Don’t expect him to play this week.

Guard Kyrie Irving’s sprained shoulder is progressing. However, he will be held out of games this week as well.

Guard Anthony Parker’s bruised sternum is much better, and he could make it back on the court for Tuesday’s game against Charlotte.

With Kyrie, Sideshow Bob ( he's been out for a few months but there was a chance that he could return ) and Anthony Parker out for the next 2 games....I really hope that the Pacers can crush the Cavs in the 1st 3 QTRs so that we can give the Starting 6 some rest and give some burn to the Bench Players....especially Fesenko.

Again.....if we are legit...we shouldn't be playing key rotational Players in the last minute of games against lottery Teams like we did against the Raptors......the Team should have a killer instinct that can put away Teams like the Cavs without a second thought. I'm hoping that we can notch 2 easy wins here....the problem is that I fear that we are too inconsistent at times and not disciplined enough to truly execute on all cylinders at all times.

Will Galen
04-10-2012, 01:35 PM
Basically, we just need to keep winning.

Nutshell! We control our own destiny by winning. Boston, Orlando, and Orlando need other teams to beat us to catch up.

I think if we go 7-2 these last nine games we will stay in third. However I don't think it will be as easy as it looks on paper.

One, we play Cleveland back to back these next two games and it's hard to beat NBA teams back to back, but both these games are must wins.

Two, teams playing to stay alive for the playoffs are going to play hard. Thus our four games against Milwaukee and Philly are going to be really tough.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 02:02 PM
One, we play Cleveland back to back these next two games and it's hard to beat NBA teams back to back, but both these games are must wins.
With Kyrie out....I really hope that we can beat the Cavs convincingly...but we are so inconsistent on times on the defensive end that I can see some scrub like Lester Hudson score 20+ points on us.


Two, teams playing to stay alive for the playoffs are going to play hard. Thus our four games against Milwaukee and Philly are going to be really tough.
These games are going to be tough.....but as you say...the Pacers controls their own destiny. I'm a pessimist and think that the Team is inconstant and have enough flaws in their game and just hope that we win the Home games.

The Sleeze
04-10-2012, 02:15 PM
The Cavs are the first team EVER to lose back to back home games by 35 or more points. With their injuries there is no reason we shouldn't totally destroy them.

Peck
04-10-2012, 03:32 PM
The Cavs are the first team EVER to lose back to back home games by 35 or more points. With their injuries there is no reason we shouldn't totally destroy them.

That should scare you more than anything. Our record vs. teams missing a lot of talent due to injury is not that great.

The Sleeze
04-10-2012, 03:40 PM
That should scare you more than anything. Our record vs. teams missing a lot of talent due to injury is not that great.

I know, but I think the Cavs are in tank mode.

Alluding to your last sentence, I would hate to look up how many bench players have career highs against us, because it has to be quite a few.

TOP
04-10-2012, 09:09 PM
Wizards beat the Magic.

Baha, love it!

CableKC
04-10-2012, 09:15 PM
Wizards beat the Magic.

Baha, love it!
Epic.....:dance:

Looks like Philly will win...but I'm not concerned about them.

Celtics leading Miami by 5 with 8:51 left in the 4th QTR.

Update - with 5:42 left in the 4th QTR.....Celtics up by 10.

Nuntius
04-10-2012, 09:15 PM
I hope not....cuz I don't want to play another Lottery Team that has a scrub Starter that can bring them from a double-digit deficit to nearly win a game against us in the 4th QTR.

Linas is not a scrub.

CableKC
04-10-2012, 09:31 PM
Linas is not a scrub.
I know that he's a Starter....but he's not a Player that one ever thinks should ever light up a Playoff bound Team.

My whole point in bringing up Kleiza's performance is that the offense/defense should be good enough to prevent runs like that. I know that this Team has shown that they are capable of running with the "Big Boys", that any Player can all of a sudden become MJ on any given night.....we have even dominated some Lottery teams....but as many times as we have dominated those Lottery Teams...we have lost to Teams that they should not be losing for one reason or another.

TheDon
04-10-2012, 09:42 PM
thank youuuu wizards, huge favor now if the hawks could start losing that would be great

Nuntius
04-10-2012, 10:00 PM
I know that he's a Starter....but he's not a Player that one ever thinks should ever light up a Playoff bound Team.


If Batum and Dragic can light up Playoff bound teams then I see no reason that Linas shouldn't do it.

I understand your point and consistency is indeed an issue (a key one, actually) but we have to remember that just because a player plays in a losing team that does not mean that the player himself is bad.

Linas is a starter in bad teams, a 6th man in good teams and a 7th man (a la James Jones and Kyle Korver) in title contenders.

Anthem
04-10-2012, 11:10 PM
Wow, Boston beat Miami. So glad we're done playing them for the year, while the rest of their season is filled with the teams chasing us for the #3 seed. So most nights I'll be cheering for Boston, but tonight a Miami win would have been nice (I feel dirty for saying that).

Washington beat Orlando, which I didn't expect given the early scores. Philadelphia beat New Jersey, which doesn't help us, and Chicago is playing New York right now. Go... Chicago? That's hard for me to say out loud as well. EDIT: Chicago won! Sweet!

Nine games left.

Atlanta - 9
Orlando - 8
Boston - 8
Philadelphia - 5
New York - 4
Milwaukee - 3

BKK
04-11-2012, 02:53 AM
Am I the only one to also track the end-of-the-pack teams (NYK, MIL @ PHI) and hope the Knicks fail to reach the playoffs? :D

aamcguy
04-11-2012, 03:10 AM
Am I the only one to also track the end-of-the-pack teams (NYK, MIL @ PHI) and hope the Knicks fail to reach the playoffs? :D

That would be the 2nd best thing to happen this year. :devil:

wintermute
04-11-2012, 03:12 AM
I can live with Boston passing us as long as we keep ahead of Orlando and Atlanta. That would make Boston the 3rd seed, and Pacers 4th, so we'd still have homecourt.

Will Galen
04-11-2012, 03:21 AM
I can live with Boston passing us as long as we keep ahead of Orlando and Atlanta. That would make Boston the 3rd seed, and Pacers 4th, so we'd still have homecourt.

If the first round of the playoffs then went according to seeding we would play Chicago in the second round while Boston and Miami would tangle.

Eleazar
04-11-2012, 04:31 AM
If the first round of the playoffs then went according to seeding we would play Chicago in the second round while Boston and Miami would tangle.

In my opinion that would give us the best chance to get to the ECF.

Naptown_Seth
04-11-2012, 12:39 PM
That should scare you more than anything. Our record vs. teams missing a lot of talent due to injury is not that great.
<Colbert>Actual stat please, not just "it feels like it in my gut".</Colbert>

;)

This is a classic stat fallacy, people remember the standouts and forget the norms. Then when they recall the past they overestimate the amount of anomalies and understate the amount of routine events that happened.


I'm not saying that 100% this is the case here, maybe there is a stat for W-L vs teams missing 2 of their top 7 MPG players, but I strongly doubt that you (Peck) are the one that's been compiling it. :)

If Count or Anthem said it (or me) then I'd buy it, but then they'd show the actual record too when citing it.

Naptown_Seth
04-11-2012, 12:50 PM
I want no part of Chicago. To me their system and team is as dialed in as the Spurs. They proved it without Rose.

Meanwhile I was watching Miami-Boston and the Heat look even more disconnected than they did in Indy. The gulf between Lebron/Wade and the rest of the team is getting wider, there is almost no flow on the floor for them. It's getting into even more clunky one-on-one stuff and no quality team interaction.

They are vulnerable as s*** even though Wade and James will get tons of FTAs in the playoffs.

TOP
04-11-2012, 12:56 PM
We know the Bulls. Miami's system crushes us regularly.

Bulls beat the Heat 3-0 during the regular season last year and went on to beat them in the first playoff game. That 4-0 record amounted to nothing because the Heat went on to beat them in the next 4.

We want no part of the Heat. Their third best player is on par with Granger while the Bulls best player holds them back because he's so beat up. I knew the Bulls would have beaten the Knicks if Rose didn't play. The Bulls turn around and beat the Knicks without Rose after losing with him. Rose is in a major funk and I'd rather play the Bulls, no doubt in my mind on believing that.

wintermute
04-11-2012, 01:17 PM
No, I think Seth is right. The Bulls are like us, except they're better plus they have Rose. The Heat have more talented individuals, but as a team they still have holes.

We're never going to out-talent either Miami or Chicago. But maybe we can beat Miami on teamwork. Granted, the chances of beating either are pretty small.

Hicks
04-11-2012, 01:28 PM
I'd rather take my chances with Chicago if we make it to the second round. I'm not fooled by what I believe to be misleading current events.

CableKC
04-11-2012, 01:33 PM
I want no part of Chicago. To me their system and team is as dialed in as the Spurs. They proved it without Rose.

Meanwhile I was watching Miami-Boston and the Heat look even more disconnected than they did in Indy. The gulf between Lebron/Wade and the rest of the team is getting wider, there is almost no flow on the floor for them. It's getting into even more clunky one-on-one stuff and no quality team interaction.

They are vulnerable as s*** even though Wade and James will get tons of FTAs in the playoffs.
I agree with you here.....the Bulls have a system that largely works....even if their best Player isn't on the floor. Take out DRose and insert CJ Watson/John Frickin Lucas in and the Bulls still manage to win a majority of those games.

I hate the prospect of playing "LeDecision/DWade, Tag-Along and the rest of the ring-chasers", but I'd rather face them then a well-oiled and highly tuned machine like the Bulls.

Unless DRose gets injured and is out for the rest of the season....the 2 teams that I do not want to face in the Playoffs are the Celtics or the Bulls.

Although all routes to the ECF ( yeah, I'm dreaming here...but it's nice to dream ) are going to be hard....then I'd take the easiest path by avoiding the Celtics and the Bulls until the ECF:

1 ) Bulls
2 ) Heat
3 ) Pacers
4 ) Celtics
5 and 6 ) Hawks or Magic

So, we just need to keep the 3rd seed to play the Hawks or Magic in the 1st round and the Heat in the 2nd?

Since86
04-11-2012, 01:40 PM
Last Wednesday had the potential to be the craziest night of the NBA season, a loaded slate of games with huge playoff implications. The night largely delivered, with a half-dozen games coming down to crunch time. Tonight’s schedule of 11 games — one fewer than last Wednesday’s cascade — is nearly as crazy, and as the season gets closer to its end point, the playoff impact of key games only gets larger.

Can you put off doing your taxes one more day? If you can, here’s a game-by-game look at the madness:
7 p.m. ET: Pacers vs. Cavaliers and Sixers vs. Raptors

Philadelphia’s slippage has made the middle of the Eastern Conference less interesting, since it leaves four teams — Boston, Indiana, Orlando and Atlanta — battling for the Nos. 3-6 spots. Each of those four spots guarantees avoidance of Miami and Chicago in the first round, so the punishment for falling all the way to the bottom of this barrel isn’t so severe.

Still, home court in the first round is nice if you can get it, and the Pacers, quietly developing a good offense to go with a solid defense, have the inside track at 35-22, with a two-game edge in the loss column over the presumptive Atlantic Division champs in Boston. The Pacers have the same two-game edge over the Magic but just a one-game lead over the Hawks, and they have already lost tie-breakers to both Atlanta and Orlando. Given that the Atlantic Division champion (i.e., Boston) is guaranteed a top-four seed, the Pacers need to bank every winnable game left on the schedule.

A note on the Pacers: Over their last 20 games, they have scored 106.6 points per 100 possessions, a mark that would rank third overall, per NBA.com’s stats database. That is heady stuff for a team whose offense has generally dragged it down over the last two seasons. There are currently only four teams ranked in the top 10 in both points scored and allowed per possession: The Bulls, Heat, Thunder and … Pacers.

It’s tempting to credit the acquisition of Leandro Barbosa, and he has indeed provided some scoring punch, but the Pacers are scoring at about the same rate regardless of whether Barbosa is on the floor. They have been shooting a few more threes of late, but they haven’t really changed much in the big picture. They are simply hitting more shots from the field while still drawing their usual pile of free-throw attempts. After shooting in the low 40 percent range at the start of the season, Indiana has improved to 46 percent over the last 20 games, with Danny Granger, once ice-cold, finally settling into a groove.

As for Philadelphia, it was nice to see the Sixers take care of business against an overmatched team on Tuesday (the Nets) after recent blowout losses to the Wizards and these same Raptors. Philly is in a dogfight with the Knicks and Bucks for one of the East’s final two playoff spots, and though their remaining schedule is relatively easy, the Sixers have just two home games left and have already lost the tie-breaker to New York. A head-to-head matchup in Milwaukee on April 25 will decide that tie-breaker.

The Sixers feel like a team in chaos, with Doug Collins aggressively fighting accusations that the team has “tuned him out” and changing the starting lineup (again) on Tuesday night. But they have no excuse against a Raptors team starting a recent 10-day signee (Alan Anderson) and likely missing Andrea Bargnani.

One interesting nugget: The Sixers have lost 11 of 12 against the Heat since LeBron James and Chris Bosh signed with Miami, and they would figure to have a much better shot at making a first-round series against Chicago mildly competitive. The Bulls are two games up on Miami, with two head-to-head matchups remaining, and with its own playoff future at stake, Philly cannot yet think about picking its seed. But this might be something to monitor on the last day or two of the season.


http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/04/11/another-crazy-wednesday-in-the-nba/?sct=hp_wr_a1&eref=sihp

There's more info on the rest of the games scheduled today in the link, but the Pacers info is above.

CableKC
04-11-2012, 02:14 PM
Here's the rest of the article with the Eastern Conference Teams highlighted:

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/04/11/another-crazy-wednesday-in-the-nba/?sct=hp_wr_a1&eref=sihp


Yeah, good luck navigating this batch of games. Milwaukee-New York is probably the game of the night, now that we know Kobe Bryant is missing one of the Lakers’ three (!) remaining games against San Antonio. This is a huge opportunity for the Bucks after they blew a similar chance by laying one the ugliest eggs you’ll ever see in New York two weeks ago. A win tonight gives them and New York identical 29-29 records and clinches the season series for the Bucks 3-1. (Both teams have already clinched tiebreakers over the Sixers.) The Knicks are now through the toughest part of their late-season murderer’s row, but their remaining schedule is still harder than Milwaukee’s.

This is a huge game, especially because the Knicks, if healthy and settled (yeah, right), would seem the most dangerous upset threat in the No. 7 or No. 8 spot. This should be an entertaining game; the Knicks are playing small, with Carmelo Anthony at power forward, and the Bucks’ army of wings and point guards would seem well-suited for that kind of matchup.


But neither Milwaukee nor New York will be quite as desperate tonight as Utah, which sits at No. 10 in the West, two games behind No. 8 Denver in the loss column and having already lost the tiebreaker to No. 9 Phoenix. A loss tonight would be devastating for Utah’s chances, though perhaps not fatal, if only because of the Suns’ brutal remaining schedule and the Nuggets’ constant health woes.

Tonight’s game will also decide the head-to-head tiebreaker between these teams, and a Houston win should pretty much lock up a playoff spot for the Rockets. Houston could pull within one game in the loss column of both the Clippers (No. 4) and No. 5 Memphis if either or both lose tonight. But it’s unclear how pressing or realistic it is for Houston to (theoretically) move into the 4-5 bracket. The Rockets have already lost the tiebreaker to the Clippers, and they have played the No. 3-seeded Lakers very well, winning two of three.

Speaking of Memphis: Don’t sleep on the Grizzlies for a possible run all the way to No. 3, especially if they beat a desperate Phoenix team at home tonight. Memphis has by far the league’s easiest remaining schedule, with a collective opponents’ winning percentage of .420, and it could pull even with the Lakers in the loss column if San Antonio takes care of business.

The Suns, on the other hand, have an absolutely brutal remaining schedule, with only one game left against a certain lottery team, Monday’s clash against the Trail Blazers. Having already lost the tiebreaker to Denver after a depressing fall-from-ahead job last Friday, Phoenix can afford only one or two hiccups the rest of the way. The Suns have gone 5-3 since losing Grant Hill to a knee injury, their defense has held basically steady, and their offense has continued to surge behind the glorious Steve Nash, an evolving Jared Dudley and a bench that has kept things afloat — and often much more — when Nash sits. Can they keep it up against the bulky, physical Grizzlies?

You know who else has an ultra-tough remaining schedule? The Pacific Division-leading Lakers. With Kobe in a walking boot and the Lakers facing playoff teams in six of their eight remaining games, the door is open for the Clippers to seize the division even after losing the tiebreaker to the Lakers last week. A win over the conference-leading Thunder would obviously be huge in that pursuit. The Clippers also have to look in the rear view at Memphis and even Houston, though Los Angeles has tiebreakers in the bag over both.

As for the Thunder, they have home-court races to think about both in their conference and in potential Finals matchups against Miami or Chicago. The Thunder and Spurs are tied in the loss column, but San Antonio has dominated Oklahoma City head-to-head for three years running and has already clinched the tiebreaker.

Looking east, the Thunder trail Chicago by one game in the loss column and have a one-game edge over Miami, with whom they split the season series. Thanks to the unbalanced lockout schedule, the Thunder and Bulls play only once this season, meaning Oklahoma City clinched the tiebreaker over Chicago in their easy win two Sundays ago against a team missing Derrick Rose. Thanks, lockout!

Both Clippers-Thunder games have been landmarks of sorts this season. The first featured the epic Blake Griffin slam over Kendrick Perkins and seemed to announce the Clippers’ legitimacy as contenders. The second, a blowout Thunder win three weeks ago, was the low point in a long stretch of stagnant play that came close to costing coach Vinny Del Negro his job. Let’s see what happens tonight, and how the Clips respond when Oklahoma City slides Kevin Durant to power forward.

Turning back to the East: Boston’s resurgence as a defensive juggernaut really began with an ugly 79-76 win in Atlanta on March 19, a game that ended with Jeff Teague air-balling a potential game-tying three and Kevin Garnett referring to Teague as a “nobody.” Like the Pacers, the Hawks have seen their scoring rate jump from abysmal to top-five-level in the last 20 games. A lineup of Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia has been especially prolific. Bringing Marvin Williams off the bench has also worked out. The Hawks will be a problem, especially if they can get anything from Al Horford.

This game could determine who gets home-court advantage if these teams finish fourth and fifth in the conference. Remember: A division title guarantees Boston a top-four seed, but it does not guarantee the Celtics home court. An Atlanta win tonight would give the Hawks a two-game edge in the loss column and even the season series at 1-1, with one game left next week in Atlanta. A Boston win evens the two teams and clinches the tiebreaker for the green guys.


The Kings are Hornets are charming in their own ways, but on this night, they don’t merit your attention.

8:30 p.m.: Lakers vs. Spurs

Tim Duncan and Andrew Bynum go head to head for the first time this season. (Greg Nelson/SI)

Finally, the first of three meetings between two longtime powerhouses preposterously squeezed into the final two weeks of the season. The Spurs have a real chance to grab the No. 1 overall seed, but doing so would likely involve battering the Lakers down into the No. 4 spot, setting up the possibility that a top-seeded Spurs team would face the winner of a Lakers-Grizzlies first-round clash. Both those teams have two behemoth interior scoring threats, and that is exactly the sort of team that’s well-equipped to bother San Antonio, even if it has added some bulk by nabbing Boris Diaw.

Then again, if the Spurs happily accept the No. 2 seed, they may concede a game to the Lakers, helping Los Angeles remain in that No. 3 spot — and on a path to meet San Antonio in the second round.

As for the Finals, the lockout has San Antonio facing Miami and Chicago just once each. The Spurs have already lost both games — and the tiebreakers that went with them.

There are just too many scenarios to comprehend, which is why San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich is smartly resting players with the big picture in mind.

9 p.m.: Timberwolves vs. Nuggets

JaVale McGee and the Nuggets can't afford a loss to the Timberwolves tonight. (AP)

The Wolves have lost six straight in an injury- and malaise-fueled tailspin. They should be easy pickings for a Denver team clinging to the No. 8 spot in the Western Conference.

Things are not all hunky-dory in Denver: Danilo Gallinari has to find himself again after missing three weeks with a broken thumb, Wilson Chandler is hurting, Al Harrington is playing through a meniscus tear and the team is clearly missing Nene’s steady two-way play. Timofey Mozgov can’t get off the bench, and Denver is playing substantially worse on both ends of the floor — and getting murdered on the glass — whenever JaVale McGee plays, meaning he’s had about the same impact in Denver as he had for years in Washington.

The Nuggets have lost tiebreakers to Utah and Dallas, and this is their last easy game before a seven-game stretch that goes Lakers-Houston-Houston-Clippers-Phoenix-Orlando-Oklahoma City. A few of those games might turn out to be easier than they look if Bryant is still out and the Magic and/or Thunder are locked into seeds by the time they face Denver.

Still, a loss here would be a disaster.
So I guess I am rooting for the Knicks and the Celtics :suicide4: ?

BTW....for all of those that would love to see the Knicks fall out of the Playoffs....I think that they will give the Heat or Bulls more than they can handle. I want the Heat or Bulls to take the hardest, most difficult route to the 2nd round....if that means the Knicks will be that Team that gives them troubles....then I say....let's go Knicks :suicide4: !

TOP
04-11-2012, 10:44 PM
Pacers win
Sixers win
Celtics win
Knicks win
Bucks lose
Hawks lose

I'll take it but I would have preferred the Bucks win and the Knicks lose. :(


We now have a two game lead over the Celtics, Hawks and Magic

TOP
04-11-2012, 10:57 PM
8 games remaining...

44-14 Bulls
36-22 Pacers
31-27 76ers
31-27 @76ers
28-30 Bucks
28-30 @Bucks
25-33 T'wolves
19-37 Cavs
21-36 Pistons
227-234


3 opponents with a winning record. 5 opponents with a losing record.

6 home games. 2 away games.

7 east opponents(5 division opponents). 1 west opponent.

daschysta
04-11-2012, 11:03 PM
Knicks have a better chance to push one of the top seeds in a series, as much as I hate the Knicks it's probably better for us in the long run that Chicago/Miami don't have an easy time of it in case we have to play them.

TOP
04-11-2012, 11:05 PM
Knicks have a better chance to push one of the top seeds in a series, as much as I hate the Knicks it's probably better for us in the long run that Chicago/Miami don't have an easy time of it in case we have to play them.

I agree but ugh, I think I'd rather just see them miss the playoffs altogether. I don't know which I dislike more, their fans or their players. I can't stand this Knicks team at all.

Anthem
04-11-2012, 11:44 PM
I agree that the overtime game wasn't ideal, but all the Magic Number Thread cares about is that we get the win.

Philly, Boston, New York won, while Atlanta and Milwaukee lost. 8 games left.

Atlanta - 7
Orlando - 7
Boston - 7
Philadelphia - 4
New York - 3
Milwaukee - 1

daschysta
04-11-2012, 11:46 PM
Next win by us, or loss by Milwaukee clinches playoffs!

TheDon
04-12-2012, 12:24 AM
I really think 5 more wins by us would wrap this up 6 would eliminate the magic and hawks from catching up to us mathematically, but I don't foresee either of those teams winning out on some monster run. So basically we win our reamining home game schedule out and we got the 3rd seed wrapped up mathematically. I can't tell you how badly I want us to abuse the Bulls in that last home game, I hate the Bulls.

A.B.Hollywood
04-12-2012, 01:24 AM
I can't tell you how badly I want us to abuse the Bulls in that last home game, I hate the Bulls.

I'd rather wait to do that in the post season. No need to get them more pissed at us before a potential second round match-up.

CableKC
04-12-2012, 02:20 AM
I agree but ugh, I think I'd rather just see them miss the playoffs altogether. I don't know which I dislike more, their fans or their players. I can't stand this Knicks team at all.
I hate the Knicks for the very same reason....but they are better built to be as much of a pain to the Heat or the Bulls in the 1st round. The Bucks won't do that....the Knicks and MarshMelo will be.

What matters for me is making the Heat or the Bulls try as hard as they can to win a 7 game series so that they are worn out as much as they can be when they make it to the 2nd round of the Playoffs.

cgg
04-12-2012, 02:42 AM
1) You don't want to give the Knicks a chance to win the lottery.

2) They're not going to take the Heat or the Bulls to 7 games. Probably not 5 games.

Anthem
04-12-2012, 09:15 AM
1) You don't want to give the Knicks a chance to win the lottery.
Wow, I hadn't even thought of that. Good point.

Naptown_Seth
04-12-2012, 09:05 PM
I agree that the overtime game wasn't ideal, but all the Magic Number Thread cares about is that we get the win.

Philly, Boston, New York won, while Atlanta and Milwaukee lost. 8 games left.

Atlanta - 7
Orlando - 7
Boston - 7
Philadelphia - 4
New York - 3
Milwaukee - 1
And keep in mind that there are some 100% certain magic number reductions in there due to teams playing each other.

ATL/ORL
ATL/BOS
BOS/ORL

ATL/NYK
BOS/NYK
ORL/PHI

And of course a win over Philly in either game is a reduction of 2 to that magic number.

So at best for these teams they sort of split them all which would be 1-1 for ORL/ATL/BOS in their games. Then if each of them beat the weaker teams (NY/PHI) that would drop NY by 2 and PHI by 1, leaving every team chasing us down 1 game in the MN and NY down 2.

So at worst the Pacers are 100% ensured of having only 1 of the 3 teams tied behind them not losing a game and if that's the case then at least 2 other teams will lose 2 games.

Say ATL wins all of these to keep pace. That puts the loser of ORL/BOS down 2. And then the loser of BOS/NYK is also down 2...unless BOS loses both and goes down 3.



The Pacers have it A LOT easier than the rest of these teams. Just winning the home PHI game is enough to basically eliminate them from catching Indy.




We want Miami to win tonight to keep their chase alive long enough for them to beat NYK and BOS.

Anthem
04-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Detroit beat Charlotte, but I don't care.

Miami's playing Chicago, but I don't care.

The Clippers played the Timberwolves, but I don't care.

Memphis played San Antonio, but I don't care.

Dallas played Golden State, but I don't care.



Basically, tonight's a night where nothing matters.

Naptown_Seth
04-12-2012, 11:11 PM
So what you are saying is the Pacers are :censored: ed thanks to that Warriors/Mavs score?





(did I misunderstand the LG33 directive to maintain extremism at all times)

CableKC
04-13-2012, 02:08 AM
1) You don't want to give the Knicks a chance to win the lottery.

2) They're not going to take the Heat or the Bulls to 7 games. Probably not 5 games.
1 ) I could be wrong...but I think that the Knicks owe the Rockets their 2012 1st round pick ( Top 5 Protected ).

2 ) I'm not suggesting that the Knicks are going to beat either the Heat or the Bulls....I'm saying that I think that they ( just like the Pacers last year against the Bulls ) will make either of those Teams EARN their 1st round Playoff Series win. Anything that will slow down either of those Teams and wears them down going into the 2nd round is what I am looking at.

Eleazar
04-13-2012, 03:54 AM
Detroit beat Charlotte, but I don't care.

Miami's playing Chicago, but I don't care.

The Clippers played the Timberwolves, but I don't care.

Memphis played San Antonio, but I don't care.

Dallas played Golden State, but I don't care.



Basically, tonight's a night where nothing matters.

Jimmy cracked corn but I don't care.

Unclebuck
04-13-2012, 10:31 AM
I potentially real advantage the pacers have.

Every other Eastern conference playoff team (besides the Pacers)plays on Thursday April 26th. You say so what?

Well the playoffs start Saturday April 28th and if the Pacers have two days to prepare vs their opponent who only has 1 day that can be a huge advantage.

cgg
04-13-2012, 11:06 AM
1 ) I could be wrong...but I think that the Knicks owe the Rockets their 2012 1st round pick ( Top 5 Protected ).

2 ) I'm not suggesting that the Knicks are going to beat either the Heat or the Bulls....I'm saying that I think that they ( just like the Pacers last year against the Bulls ) will make either of those Teams EARN their 1st round Playoff Series win. Anything that will slow down either of those Teams and wears them down going into the 2nd round is what I am looking at.

If you win the lottery, then your pick is in the top 5.

Derek2k3
04-13-2012, 11:11 AM
For some reason I can't quote you, Buck, but great point. I've wondered why more people haven't mentioned that.

The Pacers play a hopefully resting Bulls team, then get to sit back and watch the teams they may face play the next day, giving them a potential strategic advantage, not to mention the day of rest.

Unclebuck
04-13-2012, 11:15 AM
For some reason I can't quote you, Buck, but great point. I've wondered why more people haven't mentioned that.

The Pacers play a hopefully resting Bulls team, then get to sit back and watch the teams they may face play the next day, giving them a potential strategic advantage, not to mention the day of rest.


So I hope the Pacers first game of the playoffs is a home game as early in the day on Saturday maybe 2 or so. That would help. Of course if the first game is Sunday evening, it won't help nearly as much.

Derek2k3
04-13-2012, 10:15 PM
So I hope the Pacers first game of the playoffs is a home game as early in the day on Saturday maybe 2 or so. That would help. Of course if the first game is Sunday evening, it won't help nearly as much.

Last season the Pacers/Bulls were early. But, that was the 1/8.

Last seasons 3/6 matchup was at 7pm. So, we'll see. Orlando/Indiana will NOT be a draw, at all. In fact, I assume it'll end up being the dreaded "NBATV" series that gets several games on that.

cgg
04-13-2012, 10:23 PM
Last season the Pacers/Bulls were early. But, that was the 1/8.

Last seasons 3/6 matchup was at 7pm. So, we'll see. Orlando/Indiana will NOT be a draw, at all. In fact, I assume it'll end up being the dreaded "NBATV" series that gets several games on that.

I guess we'll all just need to go to the games then.

Derek2k3
04-13-2012, 10:46 PM
I agree that the overtime game wasn't ideal, but all the Magic Number Thread cares about is that we get the win.

Philly, Boston, New York won, while Atlanta and Milwaukee lost. 8 games left.

Atlanta - 7
Orlando - 7
Boston - 7
Philadelphia - 4
New York - 3
Milwaukee - 1

Not to steal this...but I'm too excited. PLAYOFFS BABY!

Atlanta - 6
Orlando - 5
Boston - 5
Philadelphia - 2
New York - 2
Milwaukee - 0

Right?

Anthem
04-13-2012, 11:16 PM
Not to steal this...but I'm too excited. PLAYOFFS BABY!

Atlanta - 6
Orlando - 5
Boston - 5
Philadelphia - 2
New York - 2
Milwaukee - 0

Right?
Let me see. Fun night tonight, since every single relevant team played. We won (convincingly), Boston lost to Toronto (oh the indignity), Atlanta PUMMELED Orlando, Philly lost to New Jersey, Milwaukee beat Detroit, and New York violated Washington.

So Boston, Orlando, and Philly lost, while Atlanta, Milwaukee, and New York won.

Atlanta - 6
Orlando - 5
Boston - 5
Philadelphia - 2
New York - 2
Milwaukee - 0

Yep, my numbers match yours.

Naptown_Seth
04-13-2012, 11:27 PM
Continuing the tracking of the games featuring magic number competition facing off...

ATL/ORL


ATL/BOS
BOS/ORL - either BOS or ORL is already at a magic number of 4 because of this
ATL/NYK
BOS/NYK
ORL/PHI


The Boston and Philly games really helped the Pacers.

Sherlock
04-14-2012, 02:28 AM
Let me see. Fun night tonight, since every single relevant team played. We won (convincingly), Boston lost to Toronto (oh the indignity), Atlanta PUMMELED Orlando, Philly lost to New Jersey, Milwaukee beat Detroit, and New York violated Washington.

So Boston, Orlando, and Philly lost, while Atlanta, Milwaukee, and New York won.

Atlanta - 6
Orlando - 5
Boston - 5
Philadelphia - 2
New York - 2
Milwaukee - 0

Yep, my numbers match yours.

And with 7 games to go, we control our fate of having home court advantage.

Sherlock
04-14-2012, 02:32 AM
Milwaukee looks like losing to New York in the playoff race.

Hold it Orlando!

I hope New York will be at 7 or 8 seed, and will end up being eliminated by Chicago or Miami.

Nuntius
04-14-2012, 03:04 AM
Milwaukee looks like losing to New York in the playoff race.


If the Sixers continue their downfall then Milwaukee will have no need to beat New York in that race.

pwee31
04-14-2012, 10:37 AM
These next 3 games are really important, starting with the Bucks tonight, as the Hawks have the Raptors twice, and then the Pistons I believe, before their final 5 games get tougher. We really don't want to give up ground with the Hawks only 2 back for the 3 seed

LazyDaze
04-14-2012, 11:03 AM
I don't know about the rest of you but I want Orlando! Two of the three games we lost to them GH didnt play and DC had 3 horrible games with a total of 4 assist combined. We have some major payback to give Orlando. We need to sweep their a$$'s. If I was a Pacer player I would want them.

Naptown_Seth
04-14-2012, 02:16 PM
If only it could end up being ORL-ATL-NYK in our run to the Finals. ;)

3 vs 6 IND over ORL
3 vs 7 ATL drops way back but then upsets MIA
3 vs 8 NYK upset CHI and BOS

Drat, too far-fetched. But oh the symmetry.

Anthem
04-14-2012, 11:02 PM
Six games left! Pacers and Boston played, both got the win. Everybody's magic number goes down by one.

Atlanta - 5
Orlando - 4
Boston - 4
Philadelphia - 1
New York - 1

TOP
04-15-2012, 08:11 PM
Looks like it's going to be a Celtics win, Magic win and Hawks loss.


Celtics up 13 with 1:30 to go.

Magic up 14 with 2:10 to go.

Hawks down 20 with 5:30 to go.






Raptors have been kind to us that past 4 games. They lost to us and the Sixers and then beat the Celtics and Hawks.

TheDon
04-15-2012, 08:27 PM
man can you imagine how irate this board would be with that uninspired performance the hawks are putting on out there? the raptors are killing them on rebounds, and second chance points, and joe johnson can't get anything to go down. unreal...but yay for us!

TOP
04-15-2012, 09:06 PM
1st Bulls 46-14
Apr16 14-46 Wizards
Apr18 7--52 @Bobcats
Apr19 42-17 @Heat
Apr21 34-27 Mavs
Apr25 38-22 @Pacers
Apr26 20-39 Cavs


2nd Heat 42-17
Apr16 22-39 @Nets
Apr18 22-39 Raptors
Apr19 46-14 Bulls
Apr21 14-46 Wizards
Apr22 32-27 Rockets
Apr24 36-25 @Celtics
Apr26 14-46 @Wizards


3rd Pacers 38-22
Apr16 Timberwolves
Apr17 31-28 @Sixers
Apr19 29-31 Bucks
Apr21 31-28 Sixers
Apr23 22-37 Pistons
Apr25 46-14 Bulls


4th Celtics 36-25
Apr17 31-29 @Knicks
Apr18 35-25 Magic
Apr20 35-25 @Hawks
Apr24 42-17 Heat
Apr26 29-31 Bucks

5th Hawks 35-25
Apr18 22-38 Pistons
Apr20 36-25 Celtics
Apr22 31-29 Knicks
Apr24 37-23 Clippers
Apr26 34-27 Mavs


6th Magic 35-25
Apr16 31-28 Sixers
Apr18 36-25 @Celtics
Apr21 31-30 @Jazz
Apr22 32-27 @Nuggets
Apr25 7--52 @Bobcats
Apr26 35-24 @Grizzlies


7th Sixers 31-28
Apr16 35-25 @Magic
Apr17 38-22 Pacers
Apr18 20-39 @Cavs
Apr21 38-22 @Pacers
Apr23 22-39 @Nets
Apr25 29-31 @Bucks
Apr26 22-38 @Pistons[B]


8th Knicks 31-29
Apr17 36-25 Celtics
Apr18 22-39 @Nets
Apr20 20-39 @Cavs
Apr22 35-25 @Hawks
Apr25 37-23 Clippers
Apr26 7--52 @Bobcats


9th Bucks 29-31
Apr18 14-46 @Wizards
Apr19 38-22 @Pacers
Apr21 22-39 Nets
Apr23 22-39 Raptors
Apr25 31-29 Sixers
Apr26 36-25 @Celtics



Stuff in bold is back to back games and eastern conference playoff teams.

Nuntius
04-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Raptors have been kind to us that past 4 games. They lost to us and the Sixers and then beat the Celtics and Hawks.

That's very, very true. They were also kind to us with the Barbosa trade. We should build them a statue in downtown Indiana :p

Nuntius
04-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Atlanta lost so they fall down to 4, right?

Marlin
04-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Atlanta lost so they fall down to 4, right?

They do. And the Knicks hit 0, for what it's worth. That's probably disrespectful. :rolleyes:

Naptown_Seth
04-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Neither the Bucks nor Sixers should count as playoff teams. ;)

Look at all the bold for Boston, that's a lotta good to solid teams. And of course I've been talking about Philly's finish for months now. They have ONE home game left, and it's the Pacers.

Enjoy Boston and Philly, it should be fun.



Good-bye Knicks, that loss finishes their MN off.
Doing the dirty work for Anthem

Atlanta - 4
Orlando - 4
Boston - 4
Philadelphia - 1
New York - 0

And again we have these games to go
ATL/BOS - either ATL or BOS is already at magic number 3 because of this
BOS/ORL - either BOS or ORL is already at a magic number of 3 because of this
ATL/NYK
BOS/NYK
ORL/PHI

It's getting close in a hurry.


man can you imagine how irate this board would be with that uninspired performance the hawks are putting on out there? the raptors are killing them on rebounds, and second chance points, and joe johnson can't get anything to go down. unreal...but yay for us!
When I recovered from my meltdown this is what I told myself (and anyone else that cared) - these other teams are/were having nights like the Pacers were, we just didn't give a **** at the time because we were too focused on the Pacers.

I mean Atlanta's loss at home at this stage of the season and their situation is unforgivable if you are a fan. You MUST win that game. BOS, NYK, DAL and LAC aren't going to role over.

And it's not just chasing us. ATL is screwing themselves out of HCA vs Boston.

Anthem
04-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Six games left! Pacers didn't play. Miami beat New York (AWESOME). Boston beat Charlotte (boo!). Toronto beat Atlanta (AWESOME). Orlando beat Cleveland (bad for this thread, good for the Orlando thread).

Atlanta - 4
Orlando - 4
Boston - 4
Philadelphia - 1
New York - 0

See ya, New York! Another one bites the dust.

Naptown_Seth
04-15-2012, 09:26 PM
Philly is at 1. Tomorrow that goes to zero if the Pacers win over MIN at home OR Philly loses at Orlando. That would clinch the 6th seed.


Good news for the Hawks, they get to fly up to Toronto tomorrow for a feel-good rematch. Likely they will be motivated, but at the same time Toronto should be feeling confident.



As of right now (ie, SUN games not done) the Pacers magic number over WEST teams for HCA (hey, screw you, this is my dream):

LAL - 7
LAC - 6
MEM - 5
DAL - 2
HOU - 2
DEN - 2

HOU vs DEN still playing.

That leaves CHI, MIA, SAS and OKC off these lists, meaning these are the MN lists for a #5 record in the NBA which sounds even more impressive than just the 3rd seed in the East.

Pacers are 6th in Points Diff thanks to the Philly anomaly.

PacersHomer
04-15-2012, 10:03 PM
If the Pacers can win home games against Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, and Minnesota, it's the 3 seed no matter what. Seems easy enough, right?

joeyd
04-15-2012, 10:22 PM
Stuff in bold is back to back games and eastern conference playoff teams.
Wow, didn't realize there were so many back to back games at the end of the regular season.

Hicks
04-15-2012, 10:46 PM
All I'm really worried about right now is another one of those unexpected mental letdowns.

If we can maintain the reasonable amount of focus that we've demonstrated this month, I see no reason why we won't lock up the third seed.

aamcguy
04-16-2012, 12:10 AM
If the Pacers can win home games against Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, and Minnesota, it's the 3 seed no matter what. Seems easy enough, right?

Nope, it's the hardest stretch of the year. They need to play harder than they've ever played before. Until the playoffs of course, when they get to play harder than they have ever been able to before.

Anthem
04-16-2012, 08:09 AM
It's getting close in a hurry.
I'm fairly certain you mean the end of the season is getting close, right? Because we have a magic number of four with six games to go. If every other team won out (obviously impossible), we'd still lock the #3 seed as long as we didn't lose more than 2 games.

I really strongly expected us to lose at least one game this week. Now that we're through it, I'm looking at our remaining schedule and thinking we could win out.

Derek2k3
04-16-2012, 10:44 AM
Honestly guys, there's been something that we've overlooked as a group.

I'm talking about a group of guys that have really stepped it up for the Pacers. Especially since the All Star break. This group has stepped up and done some great things, never letting themselves get down for a moment.

Of course, I'm talking about the Raptors.

Thanks for sending us Leandro for our 2nd.

Thanks for beating ATL. Oh, and beating Boston? That was pretty nice too.

EDIT: As user billbradley pointed out, sending us Hibbert for a package including JO was pretty nice as well.

So, from the bottom of our Pacer loving hearts, we thank you, Toronto. I guess it's true, Canadians really are the nicest folks you'll meet.

billbradley
04-16-2012, 10:47 AM
Honestly guys, there's been something that we've overlooked as a group.

I'm talking about a group of guys that have really stepped it up for the Pacers. Especially since the All Star break. This group has stepped up and done some great things, never letting themselves get down for a moment.

Of course, I'm talking about the Raptors.

Thanks for sending us Leandro for our 2nd.

Thanks for beating ATL. Oh, and beating Boston? That was pretty nice too.

So, from the bottom of our Pacer loving hearts, we thank you, Toronto. I guess it's true, Canadians really are the nicest folks you'll meet.

Can we thank them for All Star Roy Hibbert while we're at it?

Derek2k3
04-16-2012, 10:52 AM
Can we thank them for All Star Roy Hibbert while we're at it?

I knew I missed something! Good catch.

Anthem
04-16-2012, 11:31 PM
Pacers win! Pacers win!

Unfortunately, so did Atlanta. And Orlando (in this thread, that's a bad thing). And nobody else important played. But the Pacers win puts Philly out of the race, and the rest of the teams down to a Magic Number of 3.

Atlanta - 3
Orlando - 3
Boston - 3
Philadelphia - 0

Here comes the Hammer, Philly. Five games to go.

Will Galen
04-16-2012, 11:35 PM
All we have to do is win three of our remaining five and we finish 3rd.

There's still a possibility we could flounder, but at this point I'm more interested in who we will play.

docpaul
04-16-2012, 11:39 PM
Pacers win! Pacers win!

Unfortunately, so did Atlanta. And Orlando (in this thread, that's a bad thing). And nobody else important played. But the Pacers win puts Philly out of the race, and the rest of the teams down to a Magic Number of 3.

Atlanta - 3
Orlando - 3
Boston - 3
Philadelphia - 0

3rd seed is starting to look like our destiny.

If you consider Seth's point about the games between these three clubs, which automatically drops 2 games regardless of the outcome, you're looking at the Pacers essentially needing to win 2 out of it's next 5 games.

Phi / Mil / Phi / Det / Chi ... 4 of these at home.

Yeah, I think 3-seed is our destiny.

I still can't believe it.

aamcguy
04-16-2012, 11:43 PM
All we have to do is win three of our remaining five and we finish 3rd.

There's still a possibility we could flounder, but at this point I'm more interested in who we will play.

Atlanta and Orlando both only need to win 2 more games to secure minimum 6th seed. (not counting tiebreakers). Boston has to lose out in order for either Philly or NY to win the division.

NY/Philly pretty much have to win out to get anything but the 7th or 8th seed.

Basically, we will play the worse of Atlanta/Orlando.

joeyd
04-16-2012, 11:46 PM
All we have to do is win three of our remaining five and we finish 3rd.

There's still a possibility we could flounder, but at this point I'm more interested in who we will play.

Actually, since Boston still has to play both Atlanta and Orlando, all that has to happen is for Boston to go 1-1 in those games and, if we win just two more games, which is very likely, we would finish no worse than 4th. Either finish is quite an accomplishment, but I think we will win 3 of the next 5, at least, so all of this is moot.

joeyd
04-16-2012, 11:53 PM
So Miami is now just two games back in the loss column. Two of the Bulls remaining games are Miami and....us!!!

Would be great if we kept Chicago from getting the #1 seed; if we finish 3rd then that would set the stage for an epic 2nd round rivalry battle.

Anthem
04-17-2012, 12:35 AM
Atlanta and Orlando both only need to win 2 more games to secure minimum 6th seed. (not counting tiebreakers). Boston has to lose out in order for either Philly or NY to win the division.

NY/Philly pretty much have to win out to get anything but the 7th or 8th seed.

Basically, we will play the worse of Atlanta/Orlando.
Hard to imagine Orlando beating Atlanta. So it looks like it will be:

Chicago
Miami
Indiana
Boston
Atlanta
Orlando
New York
Philly

First-round matchups are:
Chicago-Philly
Miami-New York
Indiana-Orlando
Boston-Atlanta

2nd round:
Chicago-Boston
Miami-Indiana

CableKC
04-17-2012, 01:02 AM
I really think that a fully stacked Knicks team that plays better defense against a Heat Team could wear the Heat down enough for a good 2nd round matchup.

MrSparko
04-17-2012, 01:40 AM
Well at least the Pacers will have had plenty of time to adjust to the Florida summer weather if they make it to the second round.

rexnom
04-17-2012, 01:51 AM
I really think that a fully stacked Knicks team that plays better defense against a Heat Team could wear the Heat down enough for a good 2nd round matchup.
Or they could be just the warm up the Heat need. I thought the Heat looked better against the Bulls than the Sixers last year.

The Sleeze
04-17-2012, 09:10 AM
So Miami is now just two games back in the loss column. Two of the Bulls remaining games are Miami and....us!!!

Would be great if we kept Chicago from getting the #1 seed; if we finish 3rd then that would set the stage for an epic 2nd round rivalry battle.

The only reason I don't want that is because of the influx of Bulls fans into the BILF (nod to Naptown Seth)

Derek2k3
04-17-2012, 10:54 PM
Pacers win! Pacers win!

Unfortunately, so did Atlanta. And Orlando (in this thread, that's a bad thing). And nobody else important played. But the Pacers win puts Philly out of the race, and the rest of the teams down to a Magic Number of 3.

Atlanta - 3
Orlando - 3
Boston - 3
Philadelphia - 0

Here comes the Hammer, Philly. Five games to go.

Pacers win! Boston goes down!
Atlanta - 2
Orlando - 2
Boston - 1

Boston/Orlando is pretty meaningful tomorrow. Either way, the Pacers can eliminate all but Atlanta with a win on Thursday!

Basically, if Boston beats Atlanta on Friday, and the Pacers win on Thursday, the #3 will be locked up!

Anthem
04-17-2012, 11:24 PM
Pacers win! Boston goes down!
Atlanta - 2
Orlando - 2
Boston - 1
And only 4 games left, all of which are home games and none of which are back to back.

Thursday - Bucks
Saturday - Sixers
Monday - Pistons
Wednesday - Bulls

We could legitimately run the table.

Naptown_Seth
04-17-2012, 11:40 PM
I'm fairly certain you mean the end of the season is getting close, right? Because we have a magic number of four with six games to go. If every other team won out (obviously impossible), we'd still lock the #3 seed as long as we didn't lose more than 2 games.

I really strongly expected us to lose at least one game this week. Now that we're through it, I'm looking at our remaining schedule and thinking we could win out.
No, I meant that the opponents were helping reduce the MN a lot quicker with helpful losses. MNs go down, but this has been more like a freefall than grinding it down with wins.

The NYK/BOS game tonight is a perfect example of that.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 12:01 AM
The only reason I don't want that is because of the influx of Bulls fans into the BILF (nod to Naptown Seth)
It :censored: me off just thinking about it. And I can't even fully fault them because the drive is short and many of them are local transplants. It's not as simple as bandwagon fans, though there are those too.

Nevertheless, :censored: them in their :censored: until the :censored: is all :censored: :censored: and they can no longer :censored: without a :censored:.

I mean "welcome to our city". :angel:



Back to the other side of the story, HCA vs West teams...

LAL - 4 (won H2H so tie is good enough)
LAC - 3 (won H2H)
MEM - 2

DAL - eliminated
HOU - elim
DEN - elim

Teams the Pacers won't have HCA against - OKC, SAS, CHI, MIA

Lakers losing by 16 to Spurs right now. Basically this is just the magic number to holding the 5th best record in the NBA.

Nuntius
04-18-2012, 12:03 AM
Teams the Pacers won't have HCA against - OKC, SAS, CHI, MIA


If we beat Chicago in our last game won't we have HCA over them?

joeyd
04-18-2012, 12:04 AM
The only reason I don't want that is because of the influx of Bulls fans into the BILF (nod to Naptown Seth)

Something tells me that things will be different this year and that the influx will be kept to a minimum. People are warming up to our team and I think the marketing people will figure out a way to limit the amount of red at BLF.

Cactus Jax
04-18-2012, 12:10 AM
If we beat Chicago in our last game won't we have HCA over them?

Got to have a better overall record, than them, not just season series.

Nuntius
04-18-2012, 12:13 AM
Got to have a better overall record, than them, not just season series.

Duh, of course. I feel stupid right now :laugh:

vnzla81
04-18-2012, 12:15 AM
And only 4 games left, all of which are home games and none of which are back to back.

Thursday - Bucks
Saturday - Sixers
Monday - Pistons
Wednesday - Bulls

We could legitimately run the table.

Wednesday is the last game? :dance: man I'm ready for the playoffs.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 12:38 AM
Something tells me that things will be different this year and that the influx will be kept to a minimum. People are warming up to our team and I think the marketing people will figure out a way to limit the amount of red at BLF.
Well season ticket holders are getting bonus first round tickets to go with their normal playoff tickets when they renew, so that keeps some seats out of Bulls hands hopefully.

I know I won't be selling mine, I have casual fan friends who would love to go. Sadly I will probably have to give up both my seats AND the free seats for the first game because I won't be in town. Just like I went out of town last year right after game 1. Both are nice vacation situations, but I guess I need to start crossing out late April in the vacation calender from now on. Good problem to have, I missed it. :D

Before you know it we might be juggling playoff games with trips to the track again.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 01:34 AM
Pacers win! Boston goes down!
Atlanta - 2
Orlando - 2
Boston - 1

Boston/Orlando is pretty meaningful tomorrow. Either way, the Pacers can eliminate all but Atlanta with a win on Thursday!

Basically, if Boston beats Atlanta on Friday, and the Pacers win on Thursday, the #3 will be locked up!
@ATL/BOS - either BOS is eliminated or ATL is at 1
BOS/ORL - either BOS is eliminated or ORL is at 1

@ATL/NYK - Knicks loss has no impact


If Boston wins both then a single Pacers win clinches it all, both Boston games play before Saturday's Sixers game. So by that game the Pacers could be locked into 3rd with no reason to even have to play the final THREE games of the year.

It could cost them a chance to run the table but it would also mean a full week (at least) to do whatever they want to, to work on or show whatever they want and to rest whomever they want before their first home playoff game.

In other words, ORL or ATL are about to get destroyed. You can see it coming a mile away. It's not homerism, if the shoe was on the other foot I'd think the Pacers were in trouble. Things have just lined up very nicely for the team thanks to their own efforts when things weren't so nicely aligned or going as well.

The Sleeze
04-18-2012, 09:40 AM
....

It could cost them a chance to run the table but it would also mean a full week (at least) to do whatever they want to, to work on or show whatever they want and to rest whomever they want before their first home playoff game.....

The only sad thing about that is all those ABA players coming back for that last game might have to watch the Pendergraph and Fesenko show.

Still, nice problem to have.

joeyd
04-18-2012, 10:02 AM
Well season ticket holders are getting bonus first round tickets to go with their normal playoff tickets when they renew, so that keeps some seats out of Bulls hands hopefully.

Since we won't be playing the Bulls in the first round, and STHs that renewed early only get bonus tix to the first round, the marketing folks will have to come up with other ideas to limit the Bulls fan invasion for a potential 2nd round or ECF series.

BillS
04-18-2012, 10:06 AM
Sadly I will probably have to give up both my seats AND the free seats for the first game because I won't be in town.

Know how this goes - somehow we ended up with commitments both Saturday and Sunday nights.

If we get the early Saturday game we'll be able to go, but otherwise it'll be no good.

Derek2k3
04-18-2012, 10:41 AM
Man, I'm glad I circled this weekend (4/28-4/29) at the start of the season.

Haven't missed a home playoff opener in over a decade, this is like Christmas/birthday/honeymoon ;-)

naptownmenace
04-18-2012, 11:25 AM
Well season ticket holders are getting bonus first round tickets to go with their normal playoff tickets when they renew, so that keeps some seats out of Bulls hands hopefully.

I know I won't be selling mine, I have casual fan friends who would love to go. Sadly I will probably have to give up both my seats AND the free seats for the first game because I won't be in town. Just like I went out of town last year right after game 1. Both are nice vacation situations, but I guess I need to start crossing out late April in the vacation calender from now on. Good problem to have, I missed it. :D

Before you know it we might be juggling playoff games with trips to the track again.

Keep me in mind! I'll gladly make the trip from Cincy with my brother-in-law (also an Indy native) and our wives. I was already planning on getting tix and setting up a trip as an 15-year Wedding Anniversary gift for him.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 11:30 AM
Since we won't be playing the Bulls in the first round, and STHs that renewed early only get bonus tix to the first round, the marketing folks will have to come up with other ideas to limit the Bulls fan invasion for a potential 2nd round or ECF series.
Sheesh, where's my head at. Whoops.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 11:37 AM
Man, I'm glad I circled this weekend (4/28-4/29) at the start of the season.

Haven't missed a home playoff opener in over a decade, this is like Christmas/birthday/honeymoon ;-)
Up till 93-94 I NEVER missed a playoff game.

Then due to coaching commitments I kept having conflicts for the ENTIRE 93-94 run. Ditto the following year.

The in 96 I got tickets for game 5, Reggie's return from eye injury. Hawks eliminate Pacers.

97...um, yeah

Then in 98 and 99 I didn't even live in the city. Two more ECF runs.

Reggie getting chased down for the layup block by Prince - in the house.

Close out vs Celts the year of the brawl - I was there with a sign even to taunt the Celtics, sitting 2nd row at visitors tunnel with my "Toine fishin' " sign for the TNT close out. No joy.

Reggie's final game vs Pistons. Sure.

Last year I was able to go to game 3, but was out of town for game 4.


So what I'm saying here is that my absence is your gain - definitely first round sweep. ;)




(2000 is my specific exception to this pattern as I only missed two games and attended both wins over the Lakers but missed the Kobe show of game 4)

PacersHomer
04-18-2012, 01:23 PM
Only sell tickets to people with 317 area codes. It won't be perfect, but it will help some.

aamcguy
04-18-2012, 06:09 PM
Tonight is interesting for the east playoff race. All of the top 9 teams but Indiana play tonight.

Derek2k3
04-18-2012, 09:13 PM
Only sell tickets to people with 317 area codes. It won't be perfect, but it will help some.

You might consider adding Cincinnati, Fort Wayne etc.

I live an hour and a half away, but I make it to every home opener with my dad. Last year I was at game 3 and 4. Indy needs to realize they have several unrealized markets around them, I remember about 9 years ago when the Colts starting really marketing Ft Wayne. Made a big difference. (Not a perfect comparison, I know)

Boston/Orlando is close, but without Ray Allen/Rondo, I see Orlando getting this win.

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 11:05 PM
If Boston wins both then a single Pacers win clinches it all, both Boston games play before Saturday's Sixers game. So by that game the Pacers could be locked into 3rd with no reason to even have to play the final THREE games of the year.One down, 2 to go.
1) BOS beats ORL
2) IND beats MIL
3) BOS beats ATL

ATL 2
BOS 1
ORL 1


So tomorrow night 100% - a win clinches HCA in round 1. ORL would be eliminated, so only ATL could catch the Pacers and force them to 5th, but they will have also eliminated BOS and would therefore be the 5th seed with HCA over the 4th seed (at worst).

Anthem
04-18-2012, 11:33 PM
Rough night for the blue and gold. Philly won, Chicago won, Miami won, Atlanta won, New York won, Boston won, and the one team we might want to win (Orlando) lost.

Ah, well. Four games to go.

Atlanta - 2
Orlando - 1
Boston - 1

Naptown_Seth
04-18-2012, 11:36 PM
Anthem, look just above your post. You wanted ORL to lose, stop sweating the Knicks.

The Orlando loss means that the Pacers winning tomorrow night clinches HCA.

CableKC
04-19-2012, 02:43 AM
Between the Knicks and the Bucks....who owns the tie-breaker?

Anthem
04-19-2012, 09:43 PM
Buy-bye. Pacers win pushes the Bucks out of the playoffs and knocks Orlando and Boston out of the #3 seed. One more win clinches it!

Atlanta - 1

TMJ31
04-19-2012, 09:46 PM
Buy-bye. Pacers win pushes the Bucks out of the playoffs and knocks Orlando and Boston out of the #3 seed. One more win clinches it!

Atlanta - 1


At this point, all I want to know is what is necessary to give Orlando the 6th seed?

Clearly they are who we want in round 1 with the news that Howard is out.

Anthem
04-19-2012, 09:50 PM
At this point, all I want to know is what is necessary to give Orlando the 6th seed?

Clearly they are who we want in round 1 with the news that Howard is out.
Check the Orlando thread. I think the Magic Number is 2.

hoosierguy
04-19-2012, 10:03 PM
At this point, all I want to know is what is necessary to give Orlando the 6th seed?

Clearly they are who we want in round 1 with the news that Howard is out.

One Knick loss, one Magic win, and Atlanta has to finish with a better record than Orlando.

Stuckey7370
04-19-2012, 10:07 PM
One Knick loss, one Magic win, and Atlanta has to finish with a better record than Orlando.

So pretty much just hope Hawks beat the Knicks in their game Sunday and hope Orl beats the Tankcats on 4/25.

Will Galen
04-19-2012, 11:24 PM
Buy-bye. Pacers win pushes the Bucks out of the playoffs and knocks Orlando and Boston out of the #3 seed. One more win clinches it!

Atlanta - 1

Milwaukee is not done for just yet. They are 3 behind Philly in the lost column with 4 to play. They have a game against Philly, and we have a game against Philly, so they aren't quite toast, but it sure looks like they are done.

spazzxb
04-22-2012, 04:56 PM
how did this get to page 2?
Atlanta 0

Anthem
04-22-2012, 06:58 PM
how did this get to page 2?
Atlanta 0
Yep, that's it. We're done here.

Peck
04-22-2012, 07:39 PM
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Naptown_Seth
04-22-2012, 07:48 PM
It's been a LONG time since we went into the post-season expecting to at least have the team win the first round. After 20 years of playoffs and high expectations it sure was a long drought getting back here.


BTW, Dunleavy is now going for another non-playoff season. He should send Vogel a big thank you gift for last year.