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Infinite MAN_force
03-15-2012, 11:44 PM
A few recent developments have eliminated some of the more obvious landing spots for Nash next year, I'd like to explore how realistic a shot we have.

New York - First there was Linsanity, and now with D'antoni fired, I don't see this as the shoe in everyone else has always thought it was. His play has dipped, but I still think that Lin owns the starting PG spot here for right now.

Dallas - Whats the best thing about Howard staying in Orlando? Deron Williams is a Maverick next season, book it. Nash has ties to the organization and played here with Dirk in the past, so I thought this could be a likely landing spot... not likely if D-Will takes over at the point.

I don't think Nash is ready to come off the bench at this point, if you know what I mean. Wherever he goes he wants to play a significant role.

I'm not discounting the possibility that Nash could sign with Miami for the minimum if he wants to be a coattail rider. However, I'm starting to think the Pacers have as good a shot as anybody in free agency. We can certainly pay him more, and we ARE a team on the cusp of contending.

Would two years of aging Steve Nash be enough to put us over the top? Looking at the numbers this year, it doesn't appear his play has dipped much at all. We will still have Collison who can play big minutes as a key backup, and George Hill can still get his minutes backing up the two spot as part of the wing rotation. I think a true PG like Nash is EXACTLY what we need. He will make every other player in the starting lineup look significantly better.

Doddage
03-15-2012, 11:53 PM
I have to think Miami will throw their MLE at him this summer. I don't see him turning that opportunity down either. He's pretty much the perfect fit for them at PG.

Infinite MAN_force
03-16-2012, 12:07 AM
I have to think Miami will throw their MLE at him this summer. I don't see him turning that opportunity down either. He's pretty much the perfect fit for them at PG.

It would have to be the mini-MLE though? I think, but I'm not entirely sure.

vnzla81
03-16-2012, 12:08 AM
We probably have a chance, maybe an small chance for Dwill?

wintermute
03-16-2012, 12:13 AM
Toronto is said to be interested in signing him. Don't know whether that would appeal to Nash, though - it's his home country sure, but they're far from contenders.

Doddage
03-16-2012, 12:33 AM
It would have to be the mini-MLE though? I think, but I'm not entirely sure.
Yeah, I think you're right, but I don't think he would care so much about the money at this stage in his career.

pizza guy
03-16-2012, 12:40 AM
We probably have a chance, maybe an small chance for Dwill?

Our chance with DWill depends on how well Bird can sell us as a contender as a result of adding DWill. The money is there to be spent. If there is a chance, you have to pursue it aggressively.

ilive4sports
03-16-2012, 12:53 AM
With Dwight staying in Orlando, Dallas becomes the first option for both Williams and Nash imo. Obviously they will only get one. Indiana can offer a good situation to both Williams and Nash. I would love to have either one, especially Williams.

Heisenberg
03-16-2012, 01:15 AM
Toronto is said to be interested in signing him. Don't know whether that would appeal to Nash, though - it's his home country sure, but they're far from contenders.
Why would Toronto do that? Obviously he makes them better, but it's not like Toronto's the 2 or so years Nash has left away from contending. And they've got a fantastic fanbase.

wintermute
03-16-2012, 01:29 AM
Why would Toronto do that? Obviously he makes them better, but it's not like Toronto's the 2 or so years Nash has left away from contending. And they've got a fantastic fanbase.

I don't really know either, but Nash to Toronto seems like a hot topic.

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/sports/article/193438--grange-on-raptors-melo-nash-in-toronto



But with D'Antoni out and the Knicks' dysfunctional ownership issues frothing to the surface again, perhaps leaving Phoenix to help the Raptors return to competitive relevance might be the right carrot to attract Nash.

It's not something the Raptors could ever talk about, but those that know Colangelo suggest it's just the kind of move he'd push hard for if he had the chance.

The Raptors will have enough cap room in the summer to pay Nash more on a short-term (two or three years) than any contender would be able spend and more than the Suns would likely be willing to pay as they stare hard at rebuilding.

It can't happen until July 1st, which is a long way from Thursday's trade deadline, but perhaps Anthony's pouting and James Dolan's determination to support his star over his coach puts one more brick in the bridge that could bring Nash to Toronto.

tadscout
03-16-2012, 02:38 AM
He has said he won't chase a championship, and he is loyal to his teammates (and grateful for their training staff). I think odds are he signs one more contract with Phx and retires when it is done.

Just b/c some players and stars will chase championships, doesn't mean there aren't loyal ones like Reggie Miller still out there.

graphic-er
03-16-2012, 09:06 AM
Not sure why Miami would want Nash when they have Lebron to run the offense. They would be better served picking up another defensive specialist/shooter or a big man.

I mean whats more effective? Lebron driving to the hoop dishing it out to good shooters and drawing fouls. OR Nash driving to the hoop dishing it to Lebron who is only a decent shooter?

Steagles
03-16-2012, 09:22 AM
I think we have a chance, but while he's getting older it seems likr he would want to stay with the magic healers in Phoenix. I actually think we have a better shot at D-Will. Its a very very small chance, but its there. If he wants a championship, he'll see we have a great opportunity and a bunch of money.

yoadknux
03-16-2012, 09:59 AM
I doubt Nash considers us. I mean, if he were to consider us then we probably would have traded for him instead of getting Barbosa.
There are other places that make more sense to him:

- Phoenix : Just because he's that loyal
- Dallas : Won't contend, but at least be in a good team that is significant to him
- Toronto : Because he just seems like that type of guy who'll play for his home "team" just to help the franchise
- Miami : :(

As for D-Will. There's no chance. And if there is a chance, then we'll lose Hibbert.
There's a factor some of you seem to ignore and that's our cap situation. We don't have cap room to sign both him and Hibbert. We're going to have $35.675m guaranteed salaries this summer - Granger, West, Jones, George, Hansbrough, Collison, Lance, Pendergraph (8 players).
Hibbert is going to get $11m-13m (Which puts us at 46.675 as a best case).
Deron is going to get at least $17.5m. Which is way over the cap for us.
I really wanted to see a Collison+Hibbert for Rondo deal. If Hibbert is going to get a star player salary, and he probably will, then it could hurt us. I already said that, if his salary will start with something like $13-14m then we'd better just S&T him with Collison for a new point guard

Sparhawk
03-16-2012, 10:51 AM
With Dwight staying in Orlando, Dallas becomes the first option for both Williams and Nash imo. Obviously they will only get one. Indiana can offer a good situation to both Williams and Nash. I would love to have either one, especially Williams.

Not sure why Nash or DWill would want to go to an aging team. Mark Cuban can probably sell it though.

Pacers are young and still getting better.

Hibbert
03-16-2012, 11:08 AM
Not if we are keeping Barbosa, which I don't think we are but not sure. Rumor has it Nash divorced his wife because she slept with Leandro. I doubt he would want to be his teammate.

Larry Staverman
03-16-2012, 11:08 AM
I think a true PG like Nash is EXACTLY what we need. He will make every other player in the starting lineup look significantly better.

On the offensive end I would agree but on defense he will make you think Collison is a good defender!

yoadknux
03-16-2012, 11:30 AM
Not if we are keeping Barbosa, which I don't think we are but not sure. Rumor has it Nash divorced his wife because she slept with Leandro. I doubt he would want to be his teammate.
It wasn't Barbosa, it was Richardson

Hibbert
03-16-2012, 11:36 AM
It wasn't Barbosa, it was Richardson

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/22/jasmines-buzz-did-leandro-barbosa-get-caught-fathering-steve-nashs-child/

Gamble1
03-16-2012, 11:52 AM
I would have to believe he would consider the Pacers if we offered him a starting spot and around a 8 million dollar contract for 2/3 years.

PacerPenguins
03-16-2012, 11:53 AM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/22/jasmines-buzz-did-leandro-barbosa-get-caught-fathering-steve-nashs-child/

thats messed up

graphic-er
03-16-2012, 12:01 PM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/22/jasmines-buzz-did-leandro-barbosa-get-caught-fathering-steve-nashs-child/

I could have swore that it was Richardson as well.

Edit, it apparently was Barbosa. Damn...poor Steve Nash.
Pacer players with hot spouses better keep an eye on Bobo.

PR07
03-16-2012, 12:08 PM
Nash to Miami would really hurt their defense which has been great this year. Personally, I think Chalmers is a good fit there. He doesnt need the ball in his hands and he shoots and defends well.

I think we have a shot, but only if Bird can work some magic and try to sell it to Nash.

Shade
03-16-2012, 12:17 PM
Barbosa likely won't be a Pacer next season.

I think Nash wouldn't mind staying in Phoenix, but I'm not sure the Suns would want him back.

We need to make a hard push for Nash.

tadscout
03-16-2012, 02:33 PM
Barbosa likely won't be a Pacer next season.

I think Nash wouldn't mind staying in Phoenix, but I'm not sure the Suns would want him back.

We need to make a hard push for Nash.

He is their main ticket pull, and if they weren't planning on bringing him back they would've traded him.

Infinite MAN_force
03-16-2012, 03:15 PM
Nash may be loyal, and was adamant about not requesting a trade in season, but I really don't see him resigning in Phoenix. Wasting the end of his career on a rebuilding franchise doesn't really make sense for either side.

Looking for a better situation in free agency is different than ring chasing. The fact that he isn't interested in ring chasing bodes well IMO, it means he won't go to Miami to ride coattails. He wants to go somewhere and be a real contributor.

We are a good team, we have a need at his position, and we can offer him more than a mini-MLE deal. It just seems like a perfect fit. He could come here and be the "missing piece", which is different than chasing a ring. I think its similar to the appeal we had for David West.

Aw Heck
03-16-2012, 03:22 PM
The Pacers really need to have a good showing in the playoffs this year. Not just for team growth sake, but in order to better attract Deron or Nash.

If Dallas fizzles out, that would be helpful too.

CableKC
03-17-2012, 12:15 PM
Not if we are keeping Barbosa, which I don't think we are but not sure. Rumor has it Nash divorced his wife because she slept with Leandro. I doubt he would want to be his teammate.
I could be wrong...but wasn't the rumor that it was JRich that slept with Nash's wife?.....hence one of the reasons why JRich was shipped off to DisneyWorld?

Nuntius
03-17-2012, 01:56 PM
I'd love to have Nash. I'd just love it.

Also, the child was his. It couldn't have been Leandro's or Jason's. There have been pictures of the baby and it was white.

ksuttonjr76
03-17-2012, 02:12 PM
I could have swore that it was Richardson as well.

Edit, it apparently was Barbosa. Damn...poor Steve Nash.
Pacer players with hot spouses better keep an eye on Bobo.

That makes three of us....

EDIT:
His wife was making some serious rounds, lol.
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/827781/suns-steve-nash-involved-in-baby-daddy-drama