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LG33
03-14-2012, 09:18 PM
Standout game from George Hill, with really solid play by Danny Granger and David West (jump shooting!) as well.

Feels good to get a win over a team over .500, especially a Philly team competing for playoff positioning.

vnzla81
03-14-2012, 09:20 PM
Official postgame thread? good.

Shade
03-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Finally, a quality win. Let's hope we can snowball it into a few more.

InYaFace
03-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Wow...what if I tell you that we beat the Sixers by 17, just like the Trailblazers yesterday??? I thought this one would go down to the wire, but G freaking Hill just killed them at the end! Great game tonight, worth the watch ;)!

DEEman
03-14-2012, 09:23 PM
That block by Granger, following with another three by Hill was worth the lack of sleep im having tomorrow! That was sick! A true eye/eargasm!

LG33
03-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Some eye-popping stats from this one:

Philly shot 52.6% from the field. Indy shot 56.6%!

All-Star Center Roy Hibbert led the team with five assists (including a few nice ones to an on-the-move David West), but Hill, A.J. and West all added four dimes each.

Lou Amundson is 13-14 in his last two games.

Trophy
03-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Just goes to show how much GHill means to this team.

Great win against a team we've been neck and neck with all season long.

3 8 thee great t h
03-14-2012, 09:26 PM
Don't wanna come off too homerish, but I really would like to see a Philly Indy playoff series. Pacers the forth seed and barring injury the pacers could really best them in 6 games 5 if were really hot. I thought this earlier in the season but I think tonight kinda proved it

LG33
03-14-2012, 09:26 PM
That block by Granger, following with another three by Hill was worth the lack of sleep im having tomorrow! That was sick! A true eye/eargasm!

There were a couple of three point attempts that had the crowd on their feet tonight. Only George Hill made them though.

Exciting game all around. I'll tell you what; the Pacers team that played tonight can beat any team in the league.

neosmndrew
03-14-2012, 09:27 PM
ESPN really had a great Pre-Game show for the Heat-Bulls game, shame they had some random basketball game during the talking about the Knicks and Orlando.

LG33
03-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Fair warning: I plan to break out the Roger Mason-esque "Looking like a post-season. How u" again when the Pacers clinch a playoff spot.

pizza guy
03-14-2012, 09:29 PM
Good game, very important win against a potential playoff opponent. GH was huge tonight, and the effort level was good across the roster.

Also, I thanked the OP mainly for the thread title.

ilive4sports
03-14-2012, 09:33 PM
ESPN really had a great Pre-Game show for the Heat-Bulls game, shame they had some random basketball game during the talking about the Knicks and Orlando.

Did you enjoy the halftime show of the Pacers/Sixers game where they didn't discuss the game at all? I know I did.

Good win, must win, glad we really pulled ahead at the end. Danny seemed to make it personal against Iggy. He certainly won that battle.

Can't say enough good things about George Hill tonight. Having him play, it completely changes this team.

As someone who has stood by DC, I can't help but wonder if this was the end of him as our starting PG.

ilive4sports
03-14-2012, 09:34 PM
That block by Granger, following with another three by Hill was worth the lack of sleep im having tomorrow! That was sick! A true eye/eargasm!

that block was down right nasty.

Nuntius
03-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Lou Amundson is 13-14 in his last two games.

That's the best part of it all :D

D-BONE
03-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Hill and Price backcourt bringing it home for majority of crunch time. Fine by me. Hibbert's stat line was pretty good, but still not on his game. Or should I say, still about the best we can really expect from him, IMO. Adequate, but not difference making. That's okay if it can at least be consistent. Hope this is a return to form for Tyler.

Johanvil
03-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Sorry for the curse but this is how i feel right now and it's been a long time

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spazzxb
03-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Did you enjoy the halftime show of the Pacers/Sixers game where they didn't discuss the game at all? I know I did.

Good win, must win, glad we really pulled ahead at the end. Danny seemed to make it personal against Iggy. He certainly won that battle.

Can't say enough good things about George Hill tonight. Having him play, it completely changes this team.

As someone who has stood by DC, I can't help but wonder if this was the end of him as our starting PG.

I doubt it will be the end, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't.

TheDavisBrothers
03-14-2012, 09:43 PM
Hill and Price backcourt bringing it home for majority of crunch time. Fine by me. Hibbert's stat line was pretty good, but still not on his game. Or should I say, still about the best we can really expect from him, IMO. Adequate, but not difference making. That's okay if it can at least be consistent. Hope this is a return to form for Tyler.

He had 14 points, lead the team in ASSISTS and rebounds and play great D, I'd say he's was a "difference maker"

Eleazar
03-14-2012, 09:44 PM
Price and Hill both played starter minutes (27 and 29), while Collison and George played 21 and 19. Usually in a blow out you would expect to see the back-ups minutes to be close to equal, but it wasn't really a blow-out until the 4th quarter.

Justin Tyme
03-14-2012, 09:45 PM
JFYI, the 76ers had only 1 more REB 26 than AST 25!

AesopRockOn
03-14-2012, 09:48 PM
Time for a big controve...er...celebration!

TheDavisBrothers
03-14-2012, 09:48 PM
Price and Hill both played starter minutes (27 and 29), while Collison and George played 21 and 19. Usually in a blow out you would expect to see the back-ups minutes to be close to equal, but it wasn't really a blow-out until the 4th quarter.

Frank finally stuck with what was working, he tends to get too formulaic with his lineup rotations

D-BONE
03-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Hibbert can't dominate a game. That's my point. If he can give us what he did tonight on a consistent basis - 12-14 pts, 8 - 10 boards, a few blocks - then it should be enough for our purposes.

spazzxb
03-14-2012, 09:49 PM
It might be good to add "Sixers Postgame" to the thread title, to avoid confusion.

Bball
03-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Great game by the Pacers. George Hill was fabulous.

I don't watch the NBA on ESPN unless the Pacers are on... IOW, it's been a while since I watched an NBA game on ESPN. Soo... uhhhhh... was that a regular play by play and color team? Talk about a couple of chatter boxes. The game never had a chance to breathe. Just chatter, chatter, chatter, blah, blah, blah..... Pointless blather too... Wow...

Bball
03-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Great game by the Pacers. George Hill was fabulous.

I don't watch the NBA on ESPN unless the Pacers are on... IOW, it's been a while since I watched an NBA game on ESPN. Soo... uhhhhh... was that a regular play by play and color team? Talk about a couple of chatter boxes. The game never had a chance to breathe. Just chatter, chatter, chatter, blah, blah, blah..... Pointless blather too... Wow...

D-BONE
03-14-2012, 09:50 PM
I would like to see him stick with GH down the stretch as a constant, preferably for DC.

TheDavisBrothers
03-14-2012, 09:53 PM
Great game by the Pacers. George Hill was fabulous.

I don't watch the NBA on ESPN unless the Pacers are on... IOW, it's been a while since I watched an NBA game on ESPN. Soo... uhhhhh... was that a regular play by play and color team? Talk about a couple of chatter boxes. The game never had a chance to breathe. Just chatter, chatter, chatter, blah, blah, blah..... Pointless blather too... Wow...

We def got the D listers for commentators, no surprise there, we can't get no respect!

Eleazar
03-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Hibbert can't dominate a game. That's my point. If he can give us what he did tonight on a consistent basis - 12-14 pts, 8 - 10 boards, a few blocks - then it should be enough for our purposes.

I agree, we really don't need him to be a 20+ ppg scorer, we just need to be consistently good. If he is consistently good it opens up so much for the other players who are better scorers.

Hibbert
03-14-2012, 09:59 PM
Hibbert can't dominate a game. That's my point. If he can give us what he did tonight on a consistent basis - 12-14 pts, 8 - 10 boards, a few blocks - then it should be enough for our purposes.

Philly put every big body they had up against Big Dog and they had no answer for him. Take him outta this game and you can take away this win.

Nuntius
03-14-2012, 09:59 PM
Price and Hill both played starter minutes (27 and 29), while Collison and George played 21 and 19. Usually in a blow out you would expect to see the back-ups minutes to be close to equal, but it wasn't really a blow-out until the 4th quarter.

Those 2 helped to turn this into a blow-out :D

Pace Maker
03-14-2012, 10:02 PM
One of the best wins of the season, beating a good team again on National Television is awesome.

Nuntius
03-14-2012, 10:02 PM
Talk about a couple of chatter boxes. The game never had a chance to breathe. Just chatter, chatter, chatter, blah, blah, blah..... Pointless blather too... Wow...

I recently formatted my PC and I have yet to find the drivers for the audio. So, I watched the game with no sound at all. I feel like it was a good thing tonight :D

D-BONE
03-14-2012, 10:04 PM
Philly put every big body they had up against Big Dog and they had no answer for him. Take him outta this game and you can take away this win.

Perhaps, but the same can be said for Hill or Granger. Maybe even West. My point is if you need Hibbert to dominate/be a number one regularly, you're in trouble. Even more so than say Granger or West just because RH can't be counted on for that level of responsibility night in and night out. Not saying he could be in any way subtracted from our lineup. Thinking maybe RH was struggling a bit with the AS mantle, which while it was acceptable in the East this year, is not his regular MO, IMO.

Justin Tyme
03-14-2012, 10:07 PM
I agree, we really don't need him to be a 20+ ppg scorer, we just need to be consistently good. If he is consistently good it opens up so much for the other players who are better scorers.

Couldn't agree more.

I'd love for him to jam that missed shot back in as it would have brought the house down!

TheDavisBrothers
03-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Hibbert can't dominate a game. That's my point. If he can give us what he did tonight on a consistent basis - 12-14 pts, 8 - 10 boards, a few blocks - then it should be enough for our purposes.

I can understand were you're from, I guess our expectations just differ... I never expect Hibbert to dominate games, I expect him to do what he did tonight and what he's averaged this season and the averages you wrote. That's the Hibbert I believe he's gonna be (just on a more consistent basis for his career). Also 1 think that doesnt get talked about enough on here, is how great of a defensive presence he is. I know his slow feet get him in trouble on pnr sometimes, but other then that he is a truely great anchor.

Sandman21
03-14-2012, 10:07 PM
LOVED G3's holstering the six shooters after hitting the 3s tonight!

SUCK IT NOAH!

Sparhawk
03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Really enjoyed this game. Pretty close till the end of the 3rd where the Pacers pulled away. We need the bench to play like that every game and we'll win games. Hill is so key to our bench. Need that guy to stay healthy the rest of the way.

Hans has played well the past 2 games; hopefully he'll find some consistency moving forward.

Eleazar
03-14-2012, 10:10 PM
I can understand were you're from, I guess our expectations just differ... I never expect Hibbert to dominate games, I expect him to do what he did tonight and what he's averaged this season and the averages you wrote. That's the Hibbert I believe he's gonna be (just on a more consistent basis for his career). Also 1 think that doesnt get talked about enough on here, is how great of a defensive presence he is. I know his slow feet get him in trouble on pnr sometimes, but other then that he is a truely great anchor.

Defiantly, if it wasn't for him the defense George and Jones did on Rose wouldn't have been half as impressive as it was. He was a huge piece in containing Rose, and I think most people overlooked that because of how impressed they were of George.

Pace Maker
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
Oh yeah, Tyler looked great today. With him playing well and George Hill healthy, our second unit is amazing.

Sparhawk
03-14-2012, 10:27 PM
Drew Gooden got a triple double!

15pt 10boards 13dimes

Holy cow

MyFavMartin
03-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Hawes limited to 5 min per quarter?

Nuntius
03-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Drew Gooden got a triple double!

15pt 10boards 13dimes

Holy cow

You're really surprised, aren't you? :p

PR07
03-14-2012, 10:58 PM
This is just a lot better basketball team when George Hill is healthy and able. It seems like when we've gone on funks, it's been when he's been out on injury.

Trader Joe
03-14-2012, 11:02 PM
Everyone will scream to start George Hill at the 1, but if I'm moving anyone into the starting lineup at point guard it's AJ Price. Dude runs a mean pick and roll.

Obviously we are a far superior team when George Hill is healthy, but Price may be the best pure point guard on the team right now.

Nuntius
03-14-2012, 11:06 PM
Here's the title on the Greek version of NBA.com:

Over the (George) Hill

Day-V
03-14-2012, 11:08 PM
I kinda want to see Juice start. At least for one game. Just to see how it goes.

Anthem
03-14-2012, 11:37 PM
I kinda want to see Juice start. At least for one game. Just to see how it goes.
Why not wait until we lose before changing the lineups?

Anthem
03-14-2012, 11:37 PM
You're really surprised, aren't you? :p
He's surprised that Drew's still in the league.

spazzxb
03-14-2012, 11:40 PM
He's surprised that Drew's still in the league.

I know i am.

pizza guy
03-14-2012, 11:44 PM
Hibbert is probably the most important player on this team. That's not to say he's the best by any means, but he can be on some nights.

For his career, I don't expect him to be Dwight Howard. Tonight's game was great, though I'd like a little more scoring for Roy. It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Roy's game opens up the game for other guys, and I think that's exactly right. In fact, I'd script the first few plays like a football coach and really give Roy a chance to make a couple moves, get good shots, and establish himself right out of the gate.

His defense has been incredible this year. I don't think it can be overstated how much better he is on that end just from being more disciplined. Whoever got it in his head to go straight up at the rim needs a raise. When he puts his arms up and just stands there, it's hard enough to get over him, but he's really learned how and when to jump straight up as well, and it makes shots at the rim a nightmare for opponents.

He doesn't have to be the most dominant big man, he just has to be effective, hold his ground, and be aggressive. That's what this team is based on.

Sookie
03-15-2012, 12:01 AM
Why not wait until we lose before changing the lineups?

I agree. Vogel's shown he'll go with the bench when they are working. And if you need them to finish, so be it. But I'm an advocate of not changing anything while it's working.

Moving either AJ or Hill to the starting lineup changes their roles, and it makes them have to adjust, and it has the potential to weaken both units. And I think they like playing together, and play really well together. You also risk hurting DC's confidence even more so. Which isn't necessary. I don't think DC "needs a wakeup call" or isn't working hard. I just think he's struggling.

BTW: As a Price fan, I'm happy to see him really feeling like he can contribute without scoring. At Uconn, even if he did other things, if he didn't score he had a tendency to get a little pouty and would pretty much flat out say he didn't contribute. I'd like to see him feel confident with his shot, but he's contributing a lot elsewhere, and he seemed like he was excited about it. (Particularly on the defensive end.)

Day-V
03-15-2012, 12:03 AM
Why not wait until we lose before changing the lineups?

It's something I've talked about with other folks for a while now, actually. I'm not really advocating a change, but if we did, I'd like to see what Juice could do.

vnzla81
03-15-2012, 12:04 AM
Why not wait until we lose before changing the lineups?

Did you watch the games before yesterday and today? Is not like we have some kind of winning streak or something.

Hicks
03-15-2012, 12:13 AM
I'd still prefer Hill start immediately over DC. I don't think his game would change much at all; it's not like DC is doing anything "point guardy" out there with our other starters. Hill would essentially be doing the exact same thing he's doing now, only we'd get it earlier in the game, and in turn our starting defense would be stronger, too.

vnzla81
03-15-2012, 12:22 AM
I'd still prefer Hill start immediately over DC. I don't think his game would change much at all; it's not like DC is doing anything "point guardy" out there with our other starters. Hill would essentially be doing the exact same thing he's doing now, only we'd get it earlier in the game, and in turn our starting defense would be stronger, too.

Thank you :thankyou:

Trader Joe
03-15-2012, 12:25 AM
I'm way too tired to look this up right now, but what's our record when we get over 20 assists in a game?

docpaul
03-15-2012, 12:27 AM
I'd still prefer Hill start immediately over DC. I don't think his game would change much at all; it's not like DC is doing anything "point guardy" out there with our other starters. Hill would essentially be doing the exact same thing he's doing now, only we'd get it earlier in the game, and in turn our starting defense would be stronger, too.

I think we'd lose some of West's offensive punch, as he relies quite a lot on Collison's pick and pop/roll game. Hill doesn't really bring that. Defenders might start stacking the box as a consequence.

vnzla81
03-15-2012, 12:32 AM
I think we'd lose some of West's offensive punch, as he relies quite a lot on Collison's pick and pop/roll game. Hill doesn't really bring that. Defenders might start stacking the box as a consequence.

West offensive punch coming from Collison? :hmm:

Isaac
03-15-2012, 12:45 AM
I think we'd lose some of West's offensive punch, as he relies quite a lot on Collison's pick and pop/roll game. Hill doesn't really bring that. Defenders might start stacking the box as a consequence.

I think that's just because Hill and West don't play together all that often in the first half. Generally when he comes in the game, it's with Hansbrough. I think he does a pretty good job getting it to Hansbrough in position. Hans catches the ball in such good position sometimes to make a quick move but he stalls in a triple threat while he thinks about what to do. That makes you forget about the nice play Hill just made to get him the ball.

Hicks
03-15-2012, 12:54 AM
I think we'd lose some of West's offensive punch, as he relies quite a lot on Collison's pick and pop/roll game. Hill doesn't really bring that. Defenders might start stacking the box as a consequence.

I disagree; early in the year I saw Hill running pick and rolls/pops just fine with our bigs.

Eleazar
03-15-2012, 12:55 AM
I don't think this is the time of the year to make that kind of change when you really don't have a player who can replace Hill on the bench.

spazzxb
03-15-2012, 01:03 AM
I don't think this is the time of the year to make that kind of change when you really don't have a player who can replace Hill on the bench.

PG played only like 20 minutes tonight. DJ plays both wing spots and we have Lance. Give PG 35+ minutes a night and thats only 13 backup minutes for DJ,LS, and or GH to cover at the 2. Pretty much I just would like to see DC not start whenever the opponent has a decent PG.

rock747
03-15-2012, 01:24 AM
Was at the game so didn't catch it on tv, how did the national tv exposure go?

Pacerfan
03-15-2012, 01:29 AM
Roy just tweeted to PG:

Roy Hibbert ‏ @Hoya2aPacer
@King24George how u feel bro?

Looks like PG got hurt/sick during the game explaining why he didn't play towards the end. Feel better soon PG!

15th parallel
03-15-2012, 01:30 AM
This is what happens when offense is clicking for this team, both on the starters and the bench (especially the bench). Defense has not been a problem generally, but their poor offense is what kills this team. Hope this continues as this is what really has been wildly inconsistent at this point.

Eleazar
03-15-2012, 01:34 AM
Was at the game so didn't catch it on tv, how did the national tv exposure go?

D list announcers, Halftime was all about the Knicks and Orlando, post game was all about the Knicks and Orlando.

spazzxb
03-15-2012, 01:58 AM
Was at the game so didn't catch it on tv, how did the national tv exposure go?

They didn't really show the crowd above the first couple of rows so any attendance issues didn't really show. The team looked good.

The commentators were at least neutral. It was good to get national attention but as a fan FSMW is better. TNT or NBA TV broadcast are a lot better than espn.

TheDavisBrothers
03-15-2012, 02:07 AM
Fun fact: With Tyler's 6 for 9 shooting tonight, he FINALLY got to 40% shooting for the year! Asher99 would be sooooooo proud if he wasn't banned!

PGisthefuture
03-15-2012, 02:30 AM
I feel like the rest of the team trusts and respects G.Hill more than DC.

Cactus Jax
03-15-2012, 03:50 AM
I'm way too tired to look this up right now, but what's our record when we get over 20 assists in a game?

From my late night reading I believe it's 14-1.

12/26/11 vs Detroit -- 20 ast W
1/2/12 vs New Jersey -- 26 ast W
1/11/12 vs Atlanta -- 25 ast W
1/20/12 @ Golden State -- 25 ast W
1/22/12 @ LA Lakers -- 22 ast W
1/29/12 @ Orlando -- 24 ast W
1/31/12 vs New Jersey -- 26 ast W
2/3/12 @ Dallas -- 25 ast W
2/11/12 vs Denver -- 22 ast L
2/19/12 vs Charlotte -- 22 ast W
2/22/12 @ Charlotte -- 20 ast W
2/28/12 vs Golden State -- 21 ast W
3/3/12 @ New Orleans -- 24 ast W
3/13/12 vs Portland -- 24 ast W
3/14/12 vs Philadelphia -- 23 ast W

I guess over 20 ast would be 12-1 :P

Nuntius
03-15-2012, 09:43 AM
Did you watch the games before yesterday and today? Is not like we have some kind of winning streak or something.

Actually, we do. A 2 game one :p

Nuntius
03-15-2012, 09:44 AM
I'd still prefer Hill start immediately over DC. I don't think his game would change much at all; it's not like DC is doing anything "point guardy" out there with our other starters. Hill would essentially be doing the exact same thing he's doing now, only we'd get it earlier in the game, and in turn our starting defense would be stronger, too.

It would change the way our second unit plays, though.

Nuntius
03-15-2012, 09:52 AM
Asher99 would be sooooooo proud if he wasn't banned!

He was banned? When? Why? How?

ksuttonjr76
03-15-2012, 09:58 AM
He was banned? When? Why? How?

You don't know? I think him and OleBlue got the axed.

Nuntius
03-15-2012, 10:01 AM
You don't know? I think him and OleBlue got the axed.

I didn't know. My PC had some issues and I didn't have the time to read PD as much as a week or so ago.

Well, OlBlue certainly looked like a troll so I can understand but Asher was not trolling. He was a decent debater albeit a bit fixated on Tyler. I don't think I like this at all :(

But c'est la vie.

Brad8888
03-15-2012, 11:10 AM
You don't know? I think him and OleBlue got the axed.

So, they finally got axed to leave? They been axin' for it.

TheDavisBrothers
03-15-2012, 01:56 PM
Olblu is not banned, he was on today, but he hasn't posted since the 10th. Asher99 on the other hand is, in fact, banned and deserved to be. At the end he was more concerned with insulting people then making good points

DaveP63
03-15-2012, 05:07 PM
Hibbert can't dominate a game. That's my point. If he can give us what he did tonight on a consistent basis - 12-14 pts, 8 - 10 boards, a few blocks - then it should be enough for our purposes.

Roy Hibbert Rebounds:9.20 Assists:1.7 Blocks:1.80 PPG:12.8

http://www.nba.com/pacers/stats/index.html

Yea. I was a little surprised myself.