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Shade
03-11-2012, 10:37 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1100147-chris-kaman-could-he-be-the-missing-piece-for-indiana?utm_medium=twitter


Rumors have swirled for months about Chris Kaman (http://bleacherreport.com/chris-kaman). He is the lone veteran on a team comprised of players who haven't yet reached their potential, and others who simply have none.

New Orleans is quite simply terrible. Losing Chris Paul (http://bleacherreport.com/chris-paul) and David West has forced them into a premature rebuilding phase that the owner-less franchise will likely need years to get out of.

Several contenders have inquired about Kaman. True low-post scorers are a rarity in today's NBA (http://bleacherreport.com/nba), and what makes him even more valuable is his expiring contract. Those two factors are among the biggest reasons Kaman is a perfect fit in Indiana.

Though Indiana would appear to be set at center with Roy Hibbert (who made his first All-Star team last month), the former Hoya is by no means an elite scoring threat. He scores 13 points per game, but many of those come on put-backs and other less polished means of scoring. Hibbert is far more valuable to Indiana as a defender.

Outside of Hibbert, the other Indiana big men really prefer to stay on the perimeter. David West is far more effective as a jump shooter than as a banger, and the same could be said about Tyler Hansbrough. The Pacers (http://bleacherreport.com/indiana-pacers) need someone who can give them easy points in the paint.

Kaman can do that. People seem to forget this since he's been buried on terrible teams for his entire career, but at his best Kaman can play at an All-Star level (he made the team in 2010, only two years ago). He could form an effective platoon with Hibbert to keep opposing teams off guard. As we saw with Memphis (http://bleacherreport.com/memphis-grizzlies) last spring, nothing swings a match up better than a low-post advantage.

The financial side of this deal makes it an even better fit. The cash-strapped Hornets (http://bleacherreport.com/new-orleans-hornets) would probably prefer not to take any money back in dumping Kaman. Luckily for them, Indiana has enough cap space to comfortably take on Kaman's deal. Since it's an expiring contract, I doubt Larry Bird would have any qualms about adding any money to this year's cap.

What this does is that it allows Indiana to make a deal with New Orleans without breaking up their rotation. The cap flexibility they have would likely allow the Pacers to deal only a draft pick for Kaman's services. Most teams would have to give up someone in their top nine to get a starting caliber center, but the Pacers could add him for nothing.

Indiana is in their best position since the Artest Melee. While it is unlikely that they'll be able to stand up to Chicago (http://bleacherreport.com/chicago-bulls) or Miami (http://bleacherreport.com/miami-heat), they are definitely capable of making it to the second round and creating a nice buzz around Indiana. If they have the chance to add Kaman it could allow them to advance further than they have in half a decade.

PacerPride33
03-11-2012, 10:44 PM
At the very least, I hope we do make the trade for kaman before the deadline. Him and Roy could cause some fits together

PR07
03-11-2012, 10:58 PM
I'd certainly take him, especially with Hibbert's slump, but at what cost? That remains to be seen...

Eleazar
03-11-2012, 11:56 PM
If Roy's trouble's really has to do with too much playing time like some have suggested, this would give the team a legit reason to not play Roy 30+ minutes every game. Hell at this point I would be willing to trade Hansbrough for him and move Lou to back-up PF. We talk about Hibberts yearly funk, but at least he played at an all-star level for part of the season. Hans has only had a few good games, the rest he has either been bad or non-existent.

Eddie Gill
03-12-2012, 01:12 AM
I know Hibbert's been struggling, but I completely disagree with his overall assessment that Roy's offensive game is unpolished and he is far more valuable as a defender. When this team's offense is clicking, its running through Roy.

Bball
03-12-2012, 02:14 AM
I'm ready to sign onto the Kaman bandwagon. We need some interchangeable options at center. Kaman lets us manage Roy's minutes better.

You can also sign me up on moving Lou ahead of Tyler on the depth chart... as well as including Tyler in any trade ideas.

wintermute
03-12-2012, 06:21 AM
We must be getting desperate for news if we're relying on Bleacher Report now. That article has so many misconceptions it makes me want to tear my hair out.

The biggest one - Kaman is a low post scorer? He's just as much of a jumpshooter as West is! Hibbert's the true low post scorer. But it's also true that Hibbert's defense is miles ahead of Kaman's. And while West and Hans are jumpshooters on offense, they still qualify as bangers in my book.

That said, Kaman as a backup would improve us. Doubt very much we can keep him beyond this season though - he's going to get (over)paid, just as Hibbert is. Would you rather pay Hibbert $13-14m or Kaman $10-11m? Certainly you don't want to pay both.

able
03-12-2012, 06:25 AM
No

QuickRelease
03-12-2012, 07:01 PM
I don't agree with their assessment of West not being as effective in the low block.

Slick Pinkham
03-12-2012, 07:23 PM
not sure if he's the missing piece, but occasionally I do suspect that he could be a missing link.

http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Kaman.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/act_chris_kaman.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZcXSKAdB0sc/TTR9lEMwzJI/AAAAAAAAAhE/XW4sK2d13ao/s1600/chris_kaman.jpg

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vnzla81
03-12-2012, 07:25 PM
He could be perfect if he could play the point.

Harddrive7
03-12-2012, 07:36 PM
No

You just mind the server.

90'sNBARocked
03-12-2012, 07:36 PM
The writer lost me with "West is not a banger"

vnzla81
03-12-2012, 07:40 PM
The writer lost me with "West is not a banger"

He is saying that "West is more effective as a jump shooter than as a banger" I don't think he is saying that "West is not a banger".

duke dynamite
03-12-2012, 07:41 PM
Obligatory "It's Bleacher Report..." post.

Naptown_Seth
03-12-2012, 08:14 PM
We must be getting desperate for news if we're relying on Bleacher Report now. That article has so many misconceptions it makes me want to tear my hair out.

The biggest one - Kaman is a low post scorer? He's just as much of a jumpshooter as West is! Hibbert's the true low post scorer. But it's also true that Hibbert's defense is miles ahead of Kaman's. And while West and Hans are jumpshooters on offense, they still qualify as bangers in my book.

That said, Kaman as a backup would improve us. Doubt very much we can keep him beyond this season though - he's going to get (over)paid, just as Hibbert is. Would you rather pay Hibbert $13-14m or Kaman $10-11m? Certainly you don't want to pay both.
I think Kaman is a better physical defender. Roy gets knocked around pretty good in traffic. His rebound totals can fool you a bit at times. It was really obvious vs Chicago and Atlanta that if he doesn't have some help inside that teams can easily muscle (and jump) the ball away from him and then recover it.

Roy has the makings of a low post game, but what good is it when he's struggling. We are seeing the same hard double team issues he showed last year, which is confusing because he's a smart player who is willing to pass. But somehow an aggressive, physical double down gets him flustered.

Or maybe its a system thing where the guys don't know where the outlet it. I noticed Miami doubled/trapped like maniacs with good success on nearly everyone.




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I just think people are overvaluing the price for the Kaman rental. If you get him then you are looking at the 5th or 6th best record, which means a pretty worthless pick. Yes you can get a gem, but most likely with a smart pick you are getting a bench player top-end.

Remember all the "we must tank because picking 14th leaves you stuck without the ability to get a difference maker?" talk. Suddenly it's "omg, a 25th pick is precious to us".


As for the resign cost, you pay MARKET VALUE. This means NEW CBA MARKET VALUE, not old contract value. If someone needs Kaman at 12m per and you want to pay Roy instead, then let him walk. Then go sign your "25th pick" caliber FA with the spare cash (and save some too).

BlueNGold
03-12-2012, 08:42 PM
Kaman isn't "the answer" but he would help us a lot. He literally would be our best big...unless Good Roy is in the house.

Brad8888
03-13-2012, 08:06 AM
Obligatory "It's Bleacher Report..." post.

Much "obliged".

pacers74
03-13-2012, 09:22 AM
We have been in rumors the last few deadlines. I will be very surpised if we make a trade. Although, if we do I see Kamen as Bird's number one target.