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The Sleeze
03-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Heres the 2 page story on SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1195701/index.htm

I thought this was pretty interesting:

Before signing, however, West agreed to play eight to 10 minutes a night out of position at center so Hansbrough would have time to contribute and improve. It might seem counterintuitive in a league of me-first players, but that's how Indiana does business. Can such a team realistically expect to beat the superstars at playoff time? The Pacers know they'll be doubted, but that is precisely what helps them to believe.

Here's the photo for the article:
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/24a2b66a698f11e180c9123138016265_7.jpg

imbtyler
03-09-2012, 04:38 PM
Heres the 2 page story on SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1195701/index.htm

Here's the photo for the article:
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/24a2b66a698f11e180c9123138016265_7.jpg

I am SO GLAD I got that subscription to SI. I've just been waiting for something like this to make it totally worthwhile. Thanks for posting!

duke dynamite
03-09-2012, 04:45 PM
COLLECTIBLE!

Is this from the latest issue?

pacergod2
03-09-2012, 04:47 PM
I bet Dahntay Jones, AJ Price, and Lou Amundson are PISSED right now.

imbtyler
03-09-2012, 04:50 PM
I bet Dahntay Jones, AJ Price, and Lou Amundson are PISSED right now.

I certainly hope so! Watch one of these seven get incidentally traded in the next six days, though. THAT would ring with irony.

CableKC
03-09-2012, 04:52 PM
Hansbrough has played his way out of my 7 core Players...I think that we have an "Unassuming Six". I think that he will be a core Player....but he needs to get beyond the current rut that he is stuck in and be more consistent.

immortality
03-09-2012, 04:56 PM
I think one of the big things we fail to realize is that we have a relatively new team. Pacers were thrust into a condensed season with a new coach and new players, without having the benefits of training camp. We have grown a lot more season, we are continually able to beat mediocre teams as well putting a decent fight with some of the competitors. Yes in the recent month we haven't been playing hard enough and maybe some of that could be due to complacency or just the difficulty of schedule.

Just look at the 76ers, they haven't changed at all since last season in free agent signings or a new coach, and have had a easy schedule, yet are still struggling. The Bulls also are still the same with the exception of Hamilton (who hasn't played many games), but are still performing on par with last season, but we all know from last year, that regular season record will not indicate playoff performance as Bulls were destroyed by Miami. (I still don't think Bulls can defeat Miami, with the lack of defense by Boozer and his highly unpredictable offense, and Noah isn't an offensive threat either.)

Atlanta Hawks are still as unpredictable as ever, they are without their two best players, but still winning. The team however has been unable to do anything significant in the playoffs for the past 4 years, and will have nearly 45 million dedicated to Joe Johnson/Smith/Harford for at least two more years barring any trades.

We fail to see that Pacers have gone from a fringe 8th seed, to being a contender for the 3th seed. We know from last year the Pacers can step up big in playoffs, now all it is a matter of execution. There might be a few pieces missing, but unless we are guaranteed a player who can improve the Pacers, there is no reason for lateral trades for a team that has only played less than a year together.

Just hope Larry Bird has enough guile to continue making successful acquisitions and signings in the upcoming free agency. (AKA please don't pay george hill 7 million and Hibbert 13 million)

Peck
03-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Man that was a good read.

Now only if we didn't have to face Miami tomorrow.

Pacer Fan
03-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Nice read...Thanks!

joeyd
03-09-2012, 05:13 PM
Nice article. Only had one problem with it, and that was the part where it is stated that Artest and Stephen Jackson instigated the Malice in the Palace. Were they boneheaded? Yes. Were they instigators? Not really.

Pacer Fan
03-09-2012, 05:24 PM
Nice article. Only had one problem with it, and that was the part where it is stated that Artest and Stephen Jackson instigated the Malice in the Palace. Were they boneheaded? Yes. Were they instigators? Not really.

Yes they was, Artest in my opinion should not be in the league. He went in the stands and hit fans man. Totally lost it, out of control. A man that size could seriously hurt someone and possibly kill someone. I don't care if someone threw a drink on him. Doesn't give him the right to beat on somebody. He should have backed off onto the floor and left it alone. Cooler heads (99.9% of the league) would have.

Alabama-Redneck
03-09-2012, 06:00 PM
Yes they was, Artest in my opinion should not be in the league. He went in the stands and hit fans man. Totally lost it, out of control. A man that size could seriously hurt someone and possibly kill someone. I don't care if someone threw a drink on him. Doesn't give him the right to beat on somebody. He should have backed off onto the floor and left it alone. Cooler heads (99.9% of the league) would have.

You need to watch video of the whole incident. Ron went into the stands but he did not hit anyone. Stephen Jackson did. Ron hit a guy twice but that was after he was back out on the floor and this guy came out on the floor after Ron.

Most people who have not seen the video or who did not watch it closely make the same mistake. Ron did not hit anyone in the stands.

:cool:

maragin
03-09-2012, 06:12 PM
Man that was a good read.

Now only if we didn't have to face Miami tomorrow.

If we somehow manage to win at Miami... not only would it be the biggest win of the season, it would help Colts fans like myself step back from the edge of the cliff.

Sandman21
03-09-2012, 06:16 PM
Stephen Jackson did.

:cool:
And as Naptown Seth put it recently, that was in karmic justice for that idiot throwing the beer in Artest's face.

Hoop
03-09-2012, 06:16 PM
By the end of next week I hope the new article is not "The Underachieving 7".

Pacer Fan
03-09-2012, 06:24 PM
You need to watch video of the whole incident. Ron went into the stands but he did not hit anyone. Stephen Jackson did. Ron hit a guy twice but that was after he was back out on the floor and this guy came out on the floor after Ron.

Most people who have not seen the video or who did not watch it closely make the same mistake. Ron did not hit anyone in the stands.

:cool:

I watched it live and playback to many times and I call a open hand to the shoulder, neck and face and moving back a person 5 ft into a seat all in one motion an assault. He also threw an forearm that could have been passed off as a grab, but the initial forearm looked more then a grab to me. Then as you and I say he hit a guy which you state was out on the floor. Not sure why you tell me to watch it.

Day-V
03-09-2012, 06:28 PM
TRADE 'EM ALL!

ilive4sports
03-09-2012, 06:37 PM
Yes they was, Artest in my opinion should not be in the league. He went in the stands and hit fans man. Totally lost it, out of control. A man that size could seriously hurt someone and possibly kill someone. I don't care if someone threw a drink on him. Doesn't give him the right to beat on somebody. He should have backed off onto the floor and left it alone. Cooler heads (99.9% of the league) would have.

joeyd said they didn't instigate it, which they didn't. He didn't say what they did was ok. The instigator was the fan who threw the beer, or you could say it was Ben Wallace for being a dick.

rabid
03-09-2012, 06:38 PM
Not sure why you tell me to watch it.

Probably because you said


He went in the stands and hit fans man.

Which is not true. And as Pacers fans who have heard incorrect versions of this story for years, some of us have gotten a little defensive about it... :cool:

90'sNBARocked
03-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Bingo!!!


"I share this with Paul because I've seen flashes of what he can do. The sky's the limit for somebody of his height, length and athletic ability, and he has a great shooting touch. Now it's a matter of putting all those things together, but also to have that dog in him, that killer instinct. That part of it is up to him."

Thats exactly what we need

Pacer Fan
03-09-2012, 06:49 PM
Probably because you said



Which is not true. And as Pacers fans who have heard incorrect versions of this story for years, some of us have gotten a little defensive about it... :cool:

Did he go into the stands? yes
Did he hit fans? yes
Did he hit fans in the stands? no
Did he assault fans in the stands? yes
Did he go into the stands and hit fans that night? yes

I would not want to defend that crap and I have loved the Pacers since going to my 1st Pacers game in 1974. Just saying!

Alabama-Redneck
03-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Did he go into the stands? yes
Did he hit fans? yes
Did he hit fans in the stands? no
Did he assault fans in the stands? yes
Did he go into the stands and hit fans that night? yes

I would not want to defend that crap and I have loved the Pacers since going to my 1st Pacers game in 1974. Just saying!


Opinions vary !!

It's over.

:cool:

Kid Minneapolis
03-09-2012, 08:11 PM
I wish people weren't bailing on Hansbrough already. I really think the man is dinged up and not 100%, and you're gonna regret these comments when he returns to his previous level of play.

rabid
03-09-2012, 08:13 PM
Did he go into the stands? yes
Did he hit fans? yes
Did he hit fans in the stands? no
Did he assault fans in the stands? yes
Did he go into the stands and hit fans that night? yes

I would not want to defend that crap and I have loved the Pacers since going to my 1st Pacers game in 1974. Just saying!

Dude calm down.

All I'm saying is get your facts and grammar right when you're talking about this stuff. It's probably the single most sensitive topic to discuss among Pacers fans on or off this forum.

He did ******NOT****** "hit fans in the stands," which is what you said originally. The way you worded it made it sound like he ran up into the stands and started punching people.

Also I am obviously not defending the guy's actions. Nowhere did I do that. I'm saying people are defens-IVE (it's a different word, look it up) about the subject partially because most/all of the national reporting was inaccurate.

That is all.

Pacer Fan
03-09-2012, 08:53 PM
Dude calm down.

All I'm saying is get your facts and grammar right when you're talking about this stuff. It's probably the single most sensitive topic to discuss among Pacers fans on or off this forum.

He did ******NOT****** "hit fans in the stands," which is what you said originally. The way you worded it made it sound like he ran up into the stands and started punching people.

Also I am obviously not defending the guy's actions. Nowhere did I do that. I'm saying people are defens-IVE (it's a different word, look it up) about the subject partially because most/all of the national reporting was inaccurate.

That is all.

Please, don't tell me to calm down. I am happy, calm and on my 3rd movie with my wife setting next to me. I never said that he hit people in the stands. I said he went into the the stands and hit fans. That is what he did in short. If, I had meant that he hit fans in the stands that is what I would've typed...He hit fans in the stands, but I didn't.

graphic-er
03-09-2012, 09:55 PM
LOL! Whats up with the terrible photoshopping in that main picture. PG is taller than Roy, DC is tall as Granger. I know they are all taken from Media day photo shoots, but damn did they get the freaking college intern to layout the page?

Fitting that Tyler Hansbrough is literally and figurative in the gutter.

The Sleeze
03-10-2012, 09:24 AM
I love how when Vogel was at Kentucky he would listen to the soundtrack from "Hoosiers" to relax...that is awesome.

ksuttonjr76
03-10-2012, 01:42 PM
I never said that he hit people in the stands. I said he went into the the stands and hit fans. That is what he did in short. If, I had meant that he hit fans in the stands that is what I would've typed...He hit fans in the stands, but I didn't.

Ceiling or floor fans?

The last time I checked, fans are people who attend games :cool:.

IUfan4life
03-10-2012, 02:02 PM
Please, don't tell me to calm down. I am happy, calm and on my 3rd movie with my wife setting next to me. I never said that he hit people in the stands. I said he went into the the stands and hit fans. That is what he did in short. If, I had meant that he hit fans in the stands that is what I would've typed...He hit fans in the stands, but I didn't.

This explains the anger

TheDavisBrothers
03-10-2012, 02:09 PM
This explains the anger

:laugh:

Pacer Fan
03-10-2012, 02:20 PM
Ceiling or floor fans?

The last time I checked, fans are people who attend games :cool:.

Fans was in the stands and they was on the floor;)

Pacer Fan
03-10-2012, 02:21 PM
This explains the anger

I have a very happy, beloved marriage of 21yrs....no anger here.;)

Derek2k3
03-10-2012, 03:37 PM
This is a high-estrogen thread.

Pacer Fan
03-10-2012, 04:21 PM
joeyd said they didn't instigate it, which they didn't. He didn't say what they did was ok. The instigator was the fan who threw the beer, or you could say it was Ben Wallace for being a dick.

Hey guys, I'm calm, cool and collective...Just wanted to say that before I get accused of being angry again...K!

Ben Wallace done nothing wrong in the sense of what later transpired. What Ben did is part of sports. What Ben did was out on the floor vs his opponent. What he did wrong the league will take care of later.

And how many times have you seen things thrown on athletes over the years?
Have you ever seen a athlete assault fans for a fan not behaving?

First, Ron lying on the home court scorers table was very disrespectful to begin with as many people, including myself feels this instigated the fan(s) to throw drink(s).

Second, Ron further instigated the situation by taking matters into his own hands by going into the stands. If he had just got off the table and stood on the floor then nothing would have transpired. However, his actions instigated the Brawl.

Fans will do dumb things, hell they may even be drunk. It doesn't give a player the right to take matters into there own hands. If they do, they are instigating further problems. Athletes have to be professional. A level headed person who knows that fans will say and do dumb things. Fans will instigate things all the time. It is up to the professional to defuse it and not further instigate the problem.

Naptown_Seth
03-10-2012, 04:44 PM
And as Naptown Seth put it recently, that was in karmic justice for that idiot throwing the beer in Artest's face.
As seen in every tough guy film ever. What happens to someone if they walk into the Roadhouse bar and throw a beer in someone's face? Or most John Ford westerns? Or a 48 Hours film? It's probably the premise of 70% of the filmed bar room brawls.

I know for my money the film better show them getting politely escorted out of the bar by a 65 year old usher. You know, John Wayne style.

But we have a nice thread for those discussions. It does suck that even still an article about this team goes to that subject instead of how Dunleavy and Murphy were two of the most overpaid players in the NBA and how JOB might go down as a worse coach than Dick Versace.

That's the history this team is coming out of, not the brawl.



By the end of next week I hope the new article is not "The Underachieving 7".
I agree, but wins vs the Knicks, Sixers and Blazers will put a damper on that sentiment. Playing the 4 best East teams (other than Indy) in a week, 3 of them on the road, is going to promote losing skids.

Drewtone
03-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Hey guys, I'm calm, cool and collective...


...Anthem's not going to be.

Pacer Fan
03-10-2012, 07:35 PM
...Anthem's not going to be.

and that would be Anthem's choice!

rabid
03-10-2012, 07:40 PM
I never said that he hit people in the stands. I said he went into the the stands and hit fans.

:rolleyes:

Pacer Fan
03-10-2012, 07:41 PM
:rolleyes:

back to ya :rolleyes: