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Hibbert
02-18-2012, 12:25 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219068/Nuggets_Make_Chris_Andersen_Available_In_Trade

Chris Andersen is available from the Nuggets via trade, according to sources.

Denver has several other big men in Nene, Kosta Koufos and Timofey Mozgov.
Via Marc Stein/ESPN

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219068/Nuggets_Make_Chris_Andersen_Available_In_Trade#ixz z1mke1lSUs



Anyone think this would be worth pursuing like I do? We could send them Lou and D. Jones outright for him along with a second, if needed. That works money wise and would save us an additional mil as well.

ksuttonjr76
02-18-2012, 12:43 PM
I would keep D. Jones, but they can have Lou.

BringJackBack
02-18-2012, 12:43 PM
I'd take him just straight up, but otherwise we don't need him.

cdash
02-18-2012, 12:44 PM
I'm not sure what they would want for him, but I have always liked the Birdman. He seems a little repetitive with Sour Lou, but I think he's a better player. He strikes me as a bit of a headcase, but as always, if the price was right I would be interested.

J7F
02-18-2012, 12:48 PM
Birdman is a bit past his prime... But is putting up better numbers than Lou this year... I don't think he is worth both Lou and Dahntay though... That trade would make us real short on wings... And how does Birdman's contract look?

He does have a smash mouth look though...

Pacer Fan
02-18-2012, 01:17 PM
3 years of 4.2mil 4.5mil 4.8mil

:50cent:

BrownBearCoffee
02-18-2012, 01:18 PM
If we could find a way to get him for a second round pick, that would be a very beneficial trade. Per 14 minutes this year, Birdman is giving you 5 ppg, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.3 blocks. In 14 minutes, Foster is giving you 3 ppg and 4.5 rebounds. And in 10 mpg, Lou is giving us 2.4 ppg and 2.4 rpg. I see this matched with Roy Hibbert, and I see a deep playoff frontline. You can never have too many bigs that aren't afraid to bang. That is exactly what Anderson, Foster, and Lou would be, with Foster leading the charge off the bench. This is contingent upon Jeff stay healthy though. He is more vital to this team than he is given credit for.

cdash
02-18-2012, 01:18 PM
3 years of 4.2mil 4.5mil 4.8mil

:50cent:

Damn, really? Yeah, to hell with that. I rescind my interest.

PR07
02-18-2012, 01:20 PM
No interest on that multi-year deal.

Hibbert
02-18-2012, 01:26 PM
Damn, really? Yeah, to hell with that. I rescind my interest.

Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

PR07
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

Don't we already have Amundson doing the exact same thing? Hustling, outworking people? Only difference is, is that the Birdman can block shots. However, neither have any offensive game. I also don't see the 33 year old Andersen aging that well, as he relies purely on his gifted athleticism.

LA_Confidential
02-18-2012, 01:37 PM
Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

If we had a point guard who could get D West the ball, he'd be able to show that he's worth the ten mil. I don't know how many times I've watched D West standing around not touching the ball the entire possession.

The dude is capable of gettin 20 point on any given night and that jumper is Clutch. So D West was a bad example to use.

Pacer Fan
02-18-2012, 01:39 PM
Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

We have 15mil plus player salary going out to spend by the deadline if desired. We have plenty of mediocre type players. Sure don't need this bad mediocre contract when we have Lou, Tyler, Jeff & Jeff.

Let's think of a expiring that can really influence a game...like a Kaman or Camby!

cdash
02-18-2012, 01:49 PM
Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

I'm fine with paying David West $10 million a year for this season and next. He is an impact player on and off the court. He's a leader. I'm fine with paying Foster $3 million. Andersen is on the decline and I think PR07 makes a really good point about his game relying too much on his athleticism. We may need a guy like him, but not with that sticker price.

pwee31
02-18-2012, 01:59 PM
Though I feel the Pacers need another big with Foster only playing every other game, I think the Pacers are looking for players who can score as well. That's why they were interested in Kaman.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kaman goes back on the trade block. He's free agent next year, and the Hornets need assets, and can't allow him to walk and get nothing but cap space in return.

Though I think the Birdman could still help this team, he's similiar to Lou like others have stated. Though he may be slightly better, not sure that would be an upgrade, and something Bird is willing to give up even cap space for.

You look at who the Pacers have been interested in, and you see Kaman and JR Smith who can both score as well as defend. I think these are the type of players you see the Pacers target. The trade deadline is less than a month away, and you really don't want to use cap space or trade away a piece unless you know there won't be anything better available at the trade deadline

vnzla81
02-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Indiana is not ready to have a weird looking guy like Birdman.

Hibbert
02-18-2012, 02:24 PM
Don't we already have Amundson doing the exact same thing? Hustling, outworking people? Only difference is, is that the Birdman can block shots. However, neither have any offensive game. I also don't see the 33 year old Andersen aging that well, as he relies purely on his gifted athleticism.

Anderson rebounds a lot better than Lou and is a true C, Amundson is undersized at C, even at PF. Anderson would be a big upgrade over Lou and could backup both the four and five spot for us. Denver has four true C's on their roster, two of whom are young and are looking to get them more minutes. Andersons minutes are down cause of this but he hasn't lost a step at all.

Hibbert
02-18-2012, 02:29 PM
If we had a point guard who could get D West the ball, he'd be able to show that he's worth the ten mil. I don't know how many times I've watched D West standing around not touching the ball the entire possession.

The dude is capable of gettin 20 point on any given night and that jumper is Clutch. So D West was a bad example to use.

Even if we had a better point guard David West would still be David West. He is an upgrade over our PF situation last year but he is on the decline and though he has been the reason for a lot of our wins this year, he also has contributed to a lot of our loses this year as well. This year with the shortened season its showing more so than I think it would in a normal season. He showed up in not very good shape and now almost half way through the season is showing that he has ran out of gas at the end of nearly every game. Im not very impressed with him so far.

vnzla81
02-18-2012, 02:32 PM
Even if we had a better point guard David West would still be David West. He is an upgrade over our PF situation last year but he is on the decline and though he has been the reason for a lot of our wins this year, he also has contributed to a lot of our loses this year as well. This year with the shortened season its showing more so than I think it would in a normal season. He showed up in not very good shape and now almost half way through the season is showing that he has ran out of gas at the end of nearly every game. Im not very impressed with him so far.

Yep those 10mil that we expend on him are looking like a waste of money so far.

Regarding Birdman I always like him but at this moment we have a similar player in Lou.

croz24
02-18-2012, 02:39 PM
Almost $5mil per year over the next 3 years for this already 33 year old declining big? Pass...

PR07
02-18-2012, 02:52 PM
Anderson rebounds a lot better than Lou and is a true C, Amundson is undersized at C, even at PF. Anderson would be a big upgrade over Lou and could backup both the four and five spot for us. Denver has four true C's on their roster, two of whom are young and are looking to get them more minutes. Andersons minutes are down cause of this but he hasn't lost a step at all.

I agree that we could probably use another true backup center. Problem is, we don't need to acquire one that has three years tied up to a player that relies all on athleticism who's already 33. Doesn't make much sense.

BringJackBack
02-18-2012, 02:54 PM
Nice contract haha...

idioteque
02-18-2012, 02:56 PM
Renaldo Balkman is probably available at the league minimum and is a similar player.

PGisthefuture
02-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Lou is a very similar player and I don't think Birdman is a very big upgrade. That contract is gross too...

McKeyFan
02-18-2012, 03:32 PM
I'd rather take Solomon Jones and make some random Pacers fan independently wealthy each of the next three years.

Nuntius
02-18-2012, 04:38 PM
Renaldo Balkman is probably available at the league minimum and is a similar player.

No. Balkman is not similar to Birdman in any way.

According from what I've read at Nuggets forums, most fans there are ready to ship him for a pick. Their reasoning is that he is biting a lot in head fakes which leads in failed blocks and easy baskets for the opposition. Of course, as we already know a lot of people on team forums tend to downplay on several players on their team's rosters and are ready to deal them for a bag full of chips (like some people here used to do with Danny and still do with DC).

Personally, I've always liked Chris Andersen (he is not called Anderson, guys) as a player. I'd be glad if he was to become a Pacer. That said he is contract is not that good. If we were to send a 2nd round pick for him though it could be nice.

Hibbert
02-18-2012, 04:58 PM
Renaldo Balkman is probably available at the league minimum and is a similar player.

The only reason you say this is cause you probably looked on espn.com player pages and saw Renaldo listed on there as a PF when in fact he is a SF. The knicks used him off the bench this year as a SF after Denver used him at that spot off the bench for the few seasons he played there. Balkman is not worthy of a roster spot on this team, pass.

McKeyFan
02-18-2012, 05:38 PM
Personally, I've always liked Chris Andersen (he is not called Anderson, guys)

:confused:

Nuntius
02-18-2012, 06:44 PM
:confused:

Why :confused:?

Tom White
02-18-2012, 07:20 PM
Are you ok with paying David West ten mil a year? Foster is making three mil this year. Andersons deal is a bit much but the dude can play and outwork anyone hes up against. We need a player like him.

Heck yes I'm OK with West's contract. Numbers aren't the only measure of his importance to this team.

Besides, he doesn't frighten young children and furry woodland creatures the way Anderson does.

Brad8888
02-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Unquestionably worth having to help Hansbrough refine his game and continue with as much energy on the floor as possible at all times.

Try to talk Denver into taking a Dahntay / Lance combo and we're all set.

Nuntius
02-18-2012, 11:24 PM
Try to talk Denver into taking a Dahntay / Lance combo and we're all set.

This would be a mistake. The word on Denver boards is that they are ready to part ways with him for a pick and some cap space. Let's try to offer them a second round pick and some cap space first. We have no reason to start offer them any player that takes part in our rotation.

EDIT: Also, the Nuggets are giving Birdman to make some space for Wilson Chandler so we could just offer them a TE. They would be happy with that, I think.

idioteque
02-18-2012, 11:30 PM
The only reason you say this is cause you probably looked on espn.com player pages and saw Renaldo listed on there as a PF when in fact he is a SF. The knicks used him off the bench this year as a SF after Denver used him at that spot off the bench for the few seasons he played there. Balkman is not worthy of a roster spot on this team, pass.

I have actually watched both play and am aware they play different positions. With that in mind, both are energy guys with limited offensive skillsets but are decent defensively (both team and man to man from what I've watched) and can rebound and hustle.

vnzla81
02-18-2012, 11:49 PM
OK so there was a time when I wanted Birdman but right now I don't think we need him, we already have Lou.

By the way we have cap space and trade pieces people, lets aim higher.

Pacerized
02-19-2012, 12:03 AM
OK so there was a time when I wanted Birdman but right now I don't think we need him, we already have Lou.

By the way we have cap space and trade pieces people, lets aim higher.

I agree, let's not waste our hard earned cap space on career bench players with 7 mil contracts. I'd rather spend more and get a better player like Kaman if we want another big man.

Robertmto
02-19-2012, 06:32 AM
yep, JUST like Balkman...

Justin Tyme
02-19-2012, 11:17 AM
I'd rather take Solomon Jones and make some random Pacers fan independently wealthy each of the next three years.



Sorry, Solo just signed with the Hornets. Same with the Sloan kid Atlanta had.

Brad8888
02-19-2012, 08:15 PM
This would be a mistake. The word on Denver boards is that they are ready to part ways with him for a pick and some cap space. Let's try to offer them a second round pick and some cap space first. We have no reason to start offer them any player that takes part in our rotation.

EDIT: Also, the Nuggets are giving Birdman to make some space for Wilson Chandler so we could just offer them a TE. They would be happy with that, I think.

My guess is that, yes, they would be happy - ecstatic with simply being able to create space. The last thing the Pacers should do is to simply take on a contract, unless they simply wanty to give up Nene (obviously not happening). Maybe Granger for Nene if we agree to take on Birdman's contract?

What I proposed would keep the Pacers from giving up much cap space to get him, and would solidify the lockerroom for the Pacers at the same time while not giving up much overall in the meantime. My guess also is that Denver would be more prone to doing it without the inclusion of Dahntay, both for cap space considerations as well as the known quantity he is to them from his previous time there.

Robertmto
02-19-2012, 08:17 PM
i never got the "word on (other teams) message board is" thing. Read this board. ppl offer the dumbest trade ideas i have ever seen. Why think what you are readign on a different board isnt the same?

Malakai432
02-19-2012, 10:18 PM
I say we keep the current team the way it is and bring in another hometown kid in Eric Gordon next year (if possible).... Then maybe spend our first round pick on a point guard. Not sure how it would effect the growth of Paul George and not sure what we would do George Hill also, especially if we draft a point guard with high potential in the draft.

Sparhawk
02-19-2012, 11:41 PM
Do you think the Pacers could get Andre Miller from Denver too?

Maybe something like

Pacers trade Hans, Price and a 2nd round pick
Denver trades Birdman and Miller

That would free up even more cap space for them. We get a point guard upgrade and take on Birdman's contract.

Nuntius
02-19-2012, 11:47 PM
i never got the "word on (other teams) message board is" thing. Read this board. ppl offer the dumbest trade ideas i have ever seen. Why think what you are readign on a different board isnt the same?

Believe me, I don't consider them any different. I did mentioned that in my first post, though ;)