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Trader Joe
02-14-2012, 09:14 AM
:gopacers:Cool off the Heat!:gopacers:


Game time: 7:00PM EST


TV: FSN-Indiana :foxsports: NBA-TV :nba:

STARTERS:

For your INDIANA PACERS

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SEASON RECORDS
:xpacers: 17-10 (7-3 Home)
:heat: 22-7 (10-5 Away)

:brick: INJURY REPORT :dead:
George HIll is out for the Pacers. Jeff Foster is questionable for the Pacers. Mario Chalmers is day to day but very probable for the Heat.

And now for our sponsored section of the game thread brought to you by Jack Link's Beef Jerky...


THE MESSIN' WITH SASQUATCH KEYS TO THE GAME

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Back to back to back. For the Heat this is the 3rd game in 3 nights for them and all of the games have been on the road, Atlanta on Sunday, Milwaukee on Monday and now us tonight. For the Pacers this is the start of their back to back to back stretch. The team needs to take advantage of their fresh legs.

Revenge factor. Pacers need to remember the butt whoopin' the received in Miami and come out with a fire in their bellies that they've been lacking lately.

Big Roy needs to get out of his big slump. With either 6'9" Joel Anthony or 6'10" Chris Bosh starting out guarding him, there is no reason Roy shouldn't have a good game tonight.

MillerTime
02-14-2012, 09:16 AM
This is going to be a tough game. We're coming off a 3 game losing streak. This is the Heat's 3rd game on a back-back-back, so hopefully theyre a little tired

The Sleeze
02-14-2012, 09:21 AM
I worry that we might try to run too much knowing the Heat are coming off a back-to-back and then leave ourselves tired for the remainder of our back-to-back-to-back.

It would be great to beat Miami, but it would be all for not if the Pacers then turned around and lost to Cleveland because they were drained.

BRushWithDeath
02-14-2012, 09:30 AM
If you believe in the theory of a schedule loss at all, this should absolutely be a schedule win.

Nuntius
02-14-2012, 10:06 AM
They've won their last 3 games and we've lost our last 3 so this gives me hope. Streaks exist in order to be beaten.

I don't think we much up well with them. Only Roy has an advantage. Hope they play with fire and fight till the end. Also, it would be fun to see Lou guarding LeBron :D

tfarks
02-14-2012, 10:16 AM
They've won their last 3 games and we've lost our last 3 so this gives me hope. Streaks exist in order to be beaten.

You've caught a case of Gambler's fallacy.

Nuntius
02-14-2012, 10:43 AM
You've caught a case of Gambler's fallacy.

I agree that what I say does not apply to logic but this season does not apply to logic either. What I said tends to happen quite a lot this year.

For example, both the Celtics and the Bulls were on a 4 game winning streak before they lost to us. The Hawks were on a 3 game winning streak when we beat 'em, as well. On the other hand, the Kings, the Pistons and the Hawks (at our second meeting) were on a 3 game losing streak and they all beat us. Denver was on a 5 game losing streak and we lost to them as well.

So, while it indeed is a fallacy it may be a quite accurate one in that case :p

MTM
02-14-2012, 10:55 AM
This game will go a long way to showing the inner character of this team.

k_lewis93
02-14-2012, 11:11 AM
The guys have to play as a team and USE HIBBERT! We haven't been using him like we should and not many players can stop him. Honestly, I look for PG, D West, and Granger to have huge games. When we played the Nuggets I was at the game in the lower section and at the end of the game I was watching those 3 guys and they were all very upset and looked like they were ready to blow up. I think this is a game they come out and play hard and try to show everyone on national tv we are for real. I hope they don't prove me wrong and lay a goose egg tho :/

Ownagedood
02-14-2012, 12:03 PM
Hibbert is how you beat Miami.. Go to Hibbert early and often. Let's face it, Wade and James are both way to much for us to handle in the matchups game. Maybe PG can do alright with Wade, but even at that we still have James and then Bosh. Chalmers and Cole are also playing good basketball this year at the Pg position for them. Miami is such a good team, im not getting my hopes up. But, we do have a slight advantage with the fact that we have been home preparing for a few days, while they just got in from MIL on back to back games, going into their 3rd day straight with a game. Although I will say i was keeping an eye on their minutes and they didn't play much last night. Lebron had the most min and he only had 31.

Let's hope for the best to BEAT THE HEAT.

Hicks
02-14-2012, 01:27 PM
I'm not talking about player health or fights when I say: Nothing would surprise me tonight.

CJ Jones
02-14-2012, 01:40 PM
Very interested in watching the Wade/George match up. I think Paul's height could give the 6'4' Wade some problems.

Very concerned about the Danny/LeBron match up. Last game in Miami Danny disappointed with his defensive effort. I think LeBron scares him. He scares me too. The way he competes against James will determine whether we win or lose this game IMO. Hope he steps up to the challenge.

And if foster can't go again tonight I'll be firmly in the camp that we need another big (Kaman please). I like Lou on this team but not in the regular rotation.

CableKC
02-14-2012, 02:08 PM
I worry that we might try to run too much knowing the Heat are coming off a back-to-back and then leave ourselves tired for the remainder of our back-to-back-to-back.

It would be great to beat Miami, but it would be all for not if the Pacers then turned around and lost to Cleveland because they were drained.
2 things:

1 ) I'm more concerned that we're going to play this game more like how we played the Mavs game where we seemed to play the entire game at 110% with the Starters and Hansbrough, Foster and Inferno. I don't want them to burn themselves out just to beat the Heat...especially at the start of a B2B2B set of games.

2 ) +1000 for your Avatar of Archer having a drink at some Pacers related Bar. :laugh:

imbtyler
02-14-2012, 02:24 PM
2 ) +1000 for your Avatar of Archer having a drink at some Pacers related Bar. :laugh:

In Pacers-colored attire, no less.

Mr_Smith
02-14-2012, 02:57 PM
Can't let them pull away, can't play catch up all game. Pacers HAVE to punch back and or end up like Atlanta and Milwaukee the last two days.

Mr_Smith
02-14-2012, 03:00 PM
I'll be at the game tonight, anybody know how much is parking in the Virginia Ave. Garage thats connected to the Fieldhouse??

BPump33
02-14-2012, 03:09 PM
I'll be at the game tonight, anybody know how much is parking in the Virginia Ave. Garage thats connected to the Fieldhouse??

I think (and I could be wrong) it's $12, or $6 on the roof. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it was last season. PTO usually parks at Penn and South for $5.

90'sNBARocked
02-14-2012, 03:10 PM
I dont think any other team in the league can compete with teh way the HEAT can put together a blitzing run. If I remember correctly, we were close up until halftiem then after 4-5 minutes down by 20 plus pointsw

Hey Vogel, please dont be afraid to use ALL of your timeouts. PLease dont wait for it to be a doubble digit deficit before you call timeout

imbtyler
02-14-2012, 03:48 PM
To be honest, I'm pretty worried about this game. There are a lot of reasons why we should win, and plenty of reasons why we shouldn't. We won't have Hill, but we have Hibbert. We're starting a back-to-back-to-back, and they're playing their third of a b2b2b. They're on a three-game win streak, we're on a three-game losing streak. We've had three days rest, and I hate the Heat. We should be able to do this.

We can turn this around tonight, set the tone for the rest of the pre-All-Star break schedule, which are mostly easy games. If we pull it out against the Heat, we should be good until the ASB.

Although, I don't want to get my hopes up. We're bound to **** off LeBroccoli and cause him to go off on a tangent. We just need to work hard and not let the team and bandwagon fans get to us.

:gopacers:

CableKC
02-14-2012, 03:51 PM
In Pacers-colored attire, no less.
Even better....I figured that Archer was a Pacers fan....:buddies:

BillS
02-14-2012, 03:52 PM
If it takes playing all out in order to beat the Heat in front of a home town crowd, I say do it do it do it do it.

Worrying too much about the next two games is the way to end up losing all three of them. Play the game in front of you, manage the resources you have an opportunity to manage, and win if you can.

While every game counts the same in the standings, winning at home gets them more people walking out of the Fieldhouse raring to come back to see them again.

Trader Joe
02-14-2012, 03:53 PM
If it takes playing all out in order to beat the Heat in front of a home town crowd, I say do it do it do it do it.

Worrying too much about the next two games is the way to end up losing all three of them. Play the game in front of you, manage the resources you have an opportunity to manage, and win if you can.

While every game counts the same in the standings, winning at home gets them more people walking out of the Fieldhouse raring to come back to see them again.

Plus if you can't take care of the Cavs tomorrow night just because you beat the Heat tonight you have bigger problems anyway.

JEM
02-14-2012, 04:04 PM
This is a game where the Pacers need the 15+ point Tyler Hansbrough and for Hibbert to get back to doing whatever he was doing before.

AesopRockOn
02-14-2012, 04:06 PM
2 ) +1000 for your Avatar of Archer having a drink at some Pacers related Bar. :laugh:

I hear Sleeze's idol is Larry Bird Reynolds.

Hibbert
02-14-2012, 04:20 PM
They've won their last 3 games and we've lost our last 3 so this gives me hope. Streaks exist in order to be beaten.

I don't think we much up well with them. Only Roy has an advantage. Hope they play with fire and fight till the end. Also, it would be fun to see Lou guarding LeBron :D

Im sorry but only Roy has an advantage? Are you possibly saying that you think Mario Chalmers is a better basketball player than Darren Collison? Mario is horrible and you will see for yourself tonight just that. Also, whoever Frank has George guarding is in for a long night.....it will be either Wade or Lebron, hope its Lebron.

CableKC
02-14-2012, 04:20 PM
I hear Sleeze's idol is Larry Bird Reynolds.
Another +1000 for yet another cool Archer reference.

Sparhawk
02-14-2012, 06:30 PM
I hate to say, but...

I've got a bad feeling about this.

rock747
02-14-2012, 06:43 PM
Are there alot of "heat" fans in attendance tonight?

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 06:46 PM
If we dont get blow out by 20 I'll call it a success.

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 06:50 PM
my gut says this is going to be a bad game for us... idk just a feeling

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 06:52 PM
C'mon now we will win we will win we will win I hope gotta believe

LucasRL13
02-14-2012, 06:53 PM
We will win, no doubt

PACERS

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 06:55 PM
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CJ Jones
02-14-2012, 06:57 PM
If we dont get blow out by 20 I'll call it a success.


I think we'll compete and keep it close. If they do blow us out again under these circumstances I'll be concerned.

Edit: anyone know if Jeff's available to play?

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:00 PM
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Man that is classic hilarious

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:02 PM
I think we'll compete and keep it close. If they do blow us out again under these circumstances I'll be concerned.

Edit: anyone know if Jeff's available to play?

He's dressed to play.

CJ Jones
02-14-2012, 07:03 PM
sweet!

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CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:04 PM
I think we'll compete and keep it close. If they do blow us out again under these circumstances I'll be concerned.

Edit: anyone know if Jeff's available to play?

Looks like Foster will be available...but will be playing every other game.

http://tbt.blogs.nba.com/


Veteran backup center Jeff Foster will be available tonight and Thursday but will be held out of the game in Cleveland Wednesday night as a precaution against aggravating his tender lower back.

When it comes to lower back problems...is it better to be playing from time to time?

or

Is it better to simply let Foster rest?

I don't know if it's good or not to let him rest and then add him back into the lineup...or if it's better to simply be playing a consistent but limited # of minutes from day to day.

shags
02-14-2012, 07:06 PM
Was the "Fan of the Week" a PD member, if they care to admit it? NBA TV showed a bit of the "El Pacero" interview from last season. Hilarious.

righteouscool
02-14-2012, 07:07 PM
All these games on NBATV lately are making me regret buying league pass. So stupid that they black out these games.

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:09 PM
All these games on NBATV lately are making me regret buying league pass. So stupid that they black out these games.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I regret the purchase since the vast majority of Pacer games are available on LP - but it's definitely annoying. :mad:

I would pay a bit extra for access to NBA TV on LP Broadband...but that's not an option. :(

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Great pro-Heat crowd tonight.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Wow I hate the bandwagoners.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:17 PM
These refs...

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:17 PM
If only Roy was a little more athletic. He just can't get off the ground regularly without a running start and that hurts him several times a game around the basket. :(

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:18 PM
These refs...

S U C K S

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:19 PM
These refs...

Yep they're setting the tone

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:19 PM
S U C K S

I swear the lockout severely affected their reffing abilities...

Pacergeek
02-14-2012, 07:20 PM
All the Heat cheers are sickening

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:21 PM
Why is that a shooting foul...?

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:22 PM
Already having doubts..

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:22 PM
cause it's Lebron

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
We're not getting home court advantage from the refs or the fans. Go team!

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
Already having doubts..

me too

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
can we plz score?

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:24 PM
We're not getting home court advantage from the refs or the fans. Go team!
Don't think they have gave our fans anything to cheer about!

righteouscool
02-14-2012, 07:24 PM
awful foul calls, but you have to convert when you get a foot from the basket and we've missed at least 4 shots at the basket

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:24 PM
that was all ball

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:25 PM
I feel like I'm watching the Pacers team of last year...

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:25 PM
When Wade was taking the FT...I heard some countdown being chanted by the crowd...then they said something....is that from Area 55?

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:25 PM
*sigh*

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:25 PM
tell u the truth the way we have been playing these last 4 games makes me have memories of last year

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:25 PM
Wade 10
Pacers 9

granger
02-14-2012, 07:26 PM
WOW .. bogus calls again and again

IndySDExport
02-14-2012, 07:26 PM
It's really sad to get home just a tad late, turn on the TV and see we're already down by 14. blah

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:26 PM
do we wanna win? holy crap getting steam rolled

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:26 PM
When Wade was taking the FT...I heard some countdown being chanted by the crowd...then they said something....is that from Area 55?

It was Bosh at the line lol, I believe it was Area 55.

PaceBalls
02-14-2012, 07:27 PM
What has happened to our Pacers? They are not playing like one of the top 10 teams. They are playing like a .500 team.

Dr. Hibbert
02-14-2012, 07:27 PM
I can't watch this crap. Terrible officiating, dumb basketball team. Sorry. Hurts too much to watch this tonight.

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 07:27 PM
It's OK.The team is tired as we are at the end of a B2B2B.

Oh wait...

What the hell is this?We are sloppy,we can't move the ball and we can't defend to save our life.

BringJackBack
02-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Did Tyler just seriously get out of the way of Joel?

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Good vision/assist from Lance.

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:28 PM
PG can't guard Wade, he's too fast for him - it's causing all kinds of defensive breakdowns. I don't miss Brandon much, but he was as good at covering Wade as you can be.

ksuttonjr76
02-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Dang NBATV games is wasting my NBALP.

Dr. Hibbert
02-14-2012, 07:29 PM
Pacers in transition are a complete joke on both ends.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:30 PM
I think we'll be lucky to end up losing by less than 20...

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:30 PM
soo put off studying for physics to watch this... i think id rather study

Dr. Hibbert
02-14-2012, 07:30 PM
Hibbert should be agree to take $10k off his next contract for each bunny he misses.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:30 PM
wtf...............

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:31 PM
take lance out. im a big supporter of him but all he does is stand in the corner when he plays.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:31 PM
soo put off studying for physics to watch this... i think id rather study

This is disgusting, but I wouldn't go that far...

Pacergeek
02-14-2012, 07:31 PM
Where has our defense been the past 4 games?

Stuckey7370
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
Never seen a team miss so many 2 ft shots

Steagles
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
Come on Roy, YOU are the key to winning this game!

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
Yep this is pretty much what I expected.

PaceBalls
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
I don't know who I am more disgusted in, the Pacers or the guy in the Pacers jacket behind the Heat bench who is cheering for the Heat.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
JR smith come to the pacers please. We need offense

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
My Lord....that Italian Model from the Fiat commerical is SOOOOOOO HAWT.....:drool:

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
J.R. Smith anyone?

Sookie
02-14-2012, 07:32 PM
We gotta try Dahntay on Wade.

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
What happened to Roy's hook? Even when he's getting decent to very good position it's just not going in. Doesn't seem to matter if he makes a quick move or takes a little extra time to set things up. End result: clank.

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
What has happened to our Pacers? They are not playing like one of the top 10 teams. They are playing like a .500 team.

They are

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
lol i don't live in Indy but seems like a lot of frontrunner fans. Lol the Bulls go there and half of the stadium is cheering for them. Lakers come same thing. Heat come same thing. lol

Ace E.Anderson
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
We all of a sudden look like one of the softest teams in the league. Its pathetic

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
We gotta try Dahntay on Wade.

Yep.

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
I truly think...I'm gonna be sick!!

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:34 PM
It's like this team was doing so well that we don't even wanna try to win anymore.. Idk what's going on.

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:34 PM
Has Granger rested at all?

I see that he's still the SF in the lineup.

Steagles
02-14-2012, 07:35 PM
COME ON GUYS, GET THE TOUGH PILLS NOW!

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:35 PM
Lance stop playing scared!!!!! You are capable of getting to the rim

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:35 PM
lol i don't live in Indy but seems like a lot of frontrunner fans. Lol the Bulls go there and half of the stadium is cheering for them. Lakers come same thing. Heat come same thing. lol

It's as cheap for them to come here and they can actually get tickets to see their team play!! :rolleyes:

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:35 PM
oh my goodness another turnover

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:36 PM
COME ON GUYS, GET THE TOUGH PILLS NOW!

The Mavericks must have stole them because that's the last time it looked like we used them...

BringJackBack
02-14-2012, 07:36 PM
It is time for us to add some pieces such as a scorer, a point guard, and some guys for the bench..

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:36 PM
It's as cheap for them to come here and they can actually get tickets to see their team play!! :rolleyes:

makes sense. But the pacers fans should also be the ones buying those tickets.

IndySDExport
02-14-2012, 07:37 PM
Well, I'm going to sign off of PD for the night. I'm afraid I'll have nothing good to say and pretty sure I won't really like anything you guys have to say.

Eleazar
02-14-2012, 07:37 PM
That isn't good, Granger is hurt.

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:37 PM
It's like this team was doing so well that we don't even wanna try to win anymore.. Idk what's going on.
It's easy..outside of GH...we don't have any reliable and consistent depth beyond the Starting lineup. The return of GH and Hansbrough playing more consistently will help relieve the problem...but we do not have good enough depth to get us past the 1st round.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:37 PM
wow, lebron getting the star treatment. Only thing i hate about this "NBA".

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:38 PM
And people are buying tickets to see this crap

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:38 PM
Lance shoots an air ball and Danny comes up limping...it doesn't look like he turned it, so it could be bad. :/

Pacer Fan
02-14-2012, 07:38 PM
Danny bailing out!

Eleazar
02-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Danny bailing out!

I hope that was sarcastic.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:39 PM
sickening. U know whats even worst? This the Heat's third game in 3 nights.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:39 PM
It's easy..outside of GH...we don't have any reliable and consistent depth beyond the Starting lineup. The return of GH and Hansbrough playing more consistently will help relieve the problem...but we do not have good enough depth to get us past the 1st round.

Not having George Hill certainly doesn't help, but we don't have enough evidence that he would really make that big of a difference. He has had a few good games, but some games he barely scored. George Hill isn't the only excuse for us struggling lately in my opinion.

PacersFan1991
02-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Very very frustrating right now

Unclebuck
02-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Pacers look totally overmatched so far

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Nobody knows what to do with the ball in their hands.That's quite appalling and disappointing.

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:40 PM
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Stuckey7370
02-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Do Pacers sleep up till its time to start? Maybe they should play a pick up game on the practice court to stop these slow starts.

Ace E.Anderson
02-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Somebody boo this team! Stephenson is a scrub, and everyone but Granger looks afraid of Miami. This is truly pathetic...so far

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Not having George Hill certainly doesn't help, but we don't have enough evidence that he would really make that big of a difference. He has had a few good games, but some games he barely scored. George Hill isn't the only excuse for us struggling lately in my opinion.

George Hill is eh. He can score. But when he was traded here i thought his on ball D was going to be better. He gets exposed almost as much as DC

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:41 PM
I hope that was sarcastic.

no he's right danny showed no effort then walked to the bench....

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:41 PM
wow we just lost the ball in the first 5 sec of the second

Asher99
02-14-2012, 07:42 PM
Why on earth do we always give the ball to Tyler with no time on shot clock or game clock. Plays four and a half minutes only to get his first shot off in the least likely scenario he makes it.

croz24
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
When your "star" is shooting sub 40%, when all but one player on your bench is shooting sub 40%, and when your team lacks any sort of ball movement offensively, strings of 4 consecutive losses will happen.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eleazar
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
no he's right danny showed no effort then walked to the bench....

So you are assuming he was limping just because he didn't want to play anymore?

Yeah I highly doubt that.

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
LeBron is a fantastic passer. It's no wonder the dude sometimes has problems figuring out whether he should pass or score. Ugh.

ksuttonjr76
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
Well, that was it for me. Back to NBA 2K12.

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:44 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:44 PM
Get some off-ball screens for PG!

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
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Sookie
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
I'm all for Dahntay going Kobe..

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
First time this season I have had no faith in this team... I hate this feeling... I don't even have the urge to watch.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
this is pathetic

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
You have to laugh at Tyler's D or actually the total lack of it.

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
Not having George Hill certainly doesn't help, but we don't have enough evidence that he would really make that big of a difference. He has had a few good games, but some games he barely scored. George Hill isn't the only excuse for us struggling lately in my opinion.
Not disagreeing with you at all....having GH and a more consistent Hansbrough will help to a certain extent...but beyond those 2...we just don't have enough depth to take up the slack on a regular and consistent basis when the Starters struggle....which is happening more and more as of late.

Eleazar
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
I'm all for Dahntay going Kobe..

Me too right now.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
y is Hansbrough on Battier? horrible matchup

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:45 PM
No effort playing ****ers blow it up embarrassing to the state of indiana

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:46 PM
y is Hansbrough on Battier? horrible matchup

should go both ways but we suck at doing that

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:46 PM
i swear PG always getting charges called on him

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:46 PM
danny granger pussying out....

spazzxb
02-14-2012, 07:47 PM
Somebody boo this team! Stephenson is a scrub, and everyone but Granger looks afraid of Miami. This is truly pathetic...so far

Boo this thing.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 07:47 PM
A) Never want to hear schedule/tired loss again this year after this Heat performance.

B) What did we do on our off days? Apparently, we didn't recoup energy or practice either.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:47 PM
y do i get this feeling that some of our players just stand out at the 3 point line and just try to look pretty? Cut to the basket or something

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
Great D everyone...

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
Whats the point they suck

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
I wonder where are the people that wanted Miami in the first round :laugh:

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
Danny Granger smh

clownskull
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
this game is already over.
very lame effort.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 07:48 PM
Our D flat sucks.

Too bad DJ is the only guy who came top play.

Lance George
02-14-2012, 07:49 PM
You think they can beat us by 50?

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:49 PM
Great D everyone...

all nba defensive team! Go pacers!

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:49 PM
No offense and no defense. Can we please go back to the time when we played really hard nosed defense but struggled on offense? We won games then.

Hypnotiq
02-14-2012, 07:49 PM
what else is on

Shade
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
You think they can beat us by 500?

Yes.

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
I'm about to turn this game off

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
Coach Vogel looks more pissed than I've ever seen him.

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
Let's just shoot threes. Good idea.

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
I am completely baffled by what I'm watching right now...

Shade
02-14-2012, 07:50 PM
I'll never understand what leads players to have games like this.

And obviously, we always lay a mega-egg against Miami.

Derek2k3
02-14-2012, 07:51 PM
Cue the panic.

This is a perfect storm of terrible events.

#1 Pacers were ready to play. Got a bunch of good looks early.
#2 Roy has been AWFUL. Has missed 3 great looks. We're talking, GREAT looks.
#3 There isn't a soul on the bench with a consistent scoring potential. (Except Dahntay, what a dunk!)
#4 Yet again, NO DEFENSE. Not even a little bit of resistance, guys like Cole, Miller, and Battier look like all stars. At this point (8:00 in the 2nd) I don't know if Miami has taken 3 tough shots.
#5 Officiating. Lets be serious, Lebron/Wade get an obscene amount of calls, the the officials are insisting on allowing Miami to destroy Tyler and David inside. Not why the Pacers are losing, but doesn't help.

Case in point, that foul on Tyler. Obscene.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 07:51 PM
The worst thing about this whole sham is you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the one thing you cannot do against Miami is get down big right out of the box. Yet there was no sense of urgency what so ever.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:51 PM
The HEAT are playing their 3rd straight game.......and they are running like crazy

Unclebuck
02-14-2012, 07:51 PM
Heat might go undefeated in the playoffs and win every game by 20

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:51 PM
hmm lebron wouldn't have gotten called for that travel

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
PG's handles don't get him anywhere except going around the 3 point line

Unclebuck
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
This is a clinic

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
Quite a few BS calls, but that's just a drop in the bucket. We are letting ourselves be abused.

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
I feel sorry for d west he deserves better I'd ask out if I were him

Derek2k3
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
A) Never want to hear schedule/tired loss again this year after this Heat performance.

B) What did we do on our off days? Apparently, we didn't recoup energy or practice either.

Just FYI, Pacer starters played more in the past couple games the Heat starters.

Lets not pretend back-back-back is bad when it involved Milwaukee and Washington.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
hmm lebron wouldn't have gotten called for that travel

star treatment......

BlueNGold
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
Pacers need to transfer to the NBDL

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
Heat might go undefeated in the playoffs and win every game by 20

They can't play us every game. They'll probably struggle in the later rounds and only win some by 10.

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
were only down 21!!!

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
It's beyond shocking what we are watching right now.They have no clue whatsoever.

Derek2k3
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
I feel sorry for d west he deserves better I'd ask out if I were him

You're a total idiot.

this team wasn't even .500 last season. Does this suck? Yup. Does it mean the Pacers are terrible? No.

Moron.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
David West, if you demand a trade, we understand

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
Well we got a little momentum, can't expect it to last long though..

Eleazar
02-14-2012, 07:54 PM
hmm lebron wouldn't have gotten called for that travel

In fact they would have called a foul on the Pacers if that was LeBron.

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:54 PM
And obviously, we always lay a mega-egg against Miami.

Somehow that's not strongly worded enough to convey the level of fail. Infinite face palm? The egg lays us? I don't know, words fail me.

In this game no one is playing particularly well (David West at least looks alive), but in terms of the losing streak I think we have learned that PG and Roy slumping at the same time is really, really, REALLY not good. And they are both letting it effect them on the defensive end.

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 07:54 PM
i really don't understand y west doesn't get more touches... he deserves them

luis3ep
02-14-2012, 07:54 PM
i'm so fuc*ing shi**y right now. i HATE the heat.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:55 PM
can somebody please remind our players that this is the HEATs 3rd game in a row

Asher99
02-14-2012, 07:55 PM
If Hansbrough is done for the half it will be 3 games in a row with just 1 attempt in the first half. That shouldn't happen with Hill let alone without him!

Shade
02-14-2012, 07:55 PM
It really is like IU all over again.

granger4mvp
02-14-2012, 07:55 PM
You're a total idiot.

this team wasn't even .500 last season. Does this suck? Yup. Does it mean the Pacers are terrible? No.

Moron.

Guess loosing 4 In a row with no effort isn't terrible whatever

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:56 PM
how the hell did bosh tip that in? cause we suck

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 07:56 PM
Paul George - hurts more than helps?

PacersFan1991
02-14-2012, 07:56 PM
I feel sorry for d west he deserves better I'd ask out if I were him

If you would leave this forum, I'd understand, you are a total moron.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:57 PM
Guess loosing 4 In a row with no effort isn't terrible whatever

or losing to teams that we should beat. that isn't terrible either

Derek2k3
02-14-2012, 07:57 PM
God, every time Cryami misses a shot they call a foul.

There have been twice as many fouls called against Indiana than Miami.

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Yep now all the surprising teams are taking a dose of reality, us, Utah, Philly, Denver, we are not as good as we thought.

Shade
02-14-2012, 07:58 PM
I hope these guys get booed at the half.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Steve Nash and JR Smith do it Bird!

gummy
02-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Paul George - hurts more than helps?

Lately? Yes.

And right on cue he really blows it. I don't know what's wrong, but get well soon, PG!

immortality
02-14-2012, 07:58 PM
The heat are just too good, in the playoffs it's hard to see them lose against an Eastern Conference team. The Bulls don't have enough offense against Miami.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 07:59 PM
don't George touch the ball. The defenders will just rip it from him

BlueNGold
02-14-2012, 07:59 PM
This is worse than watching a Jim O'Brien coached team. I realize the Heat are good, but we look like a 8th grade jr high school girls team out there.

James with the dunk.

This is absolutely embarrassing.

Derek2k3
02-14-2012, 07:59 PM
Guess loosing 4 In a row with no effort isn't terrible whatever


or losing to teams that we should beat. that isn't terrible either

Yep, this team could care less about winning/trying, has nothing to do with playing a condensed schedule full of close games. Nothing at all.

KEEP IT CIVIL - Shade

CableKC
02-14-2012, 07:59 PM
I'm done.....I'm not watching this game anymore. I hate the way the Pacers are playing right now and I hate watching the Heat.

ejwallace
02-14-2012, 08:00 PM
I just want to get out of this game, and not get embarrassed as bad as the Celtics embarrassed Orlando....

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:01 PM
Just FYI, Pacer starters played more in the past couple games the Heat starters.

Lets not pretend back-back-back is bad when it involved Milwaukee and Washington.

Are you serious? Back 2 back 2 back is a challenge no matter who you play. And part of it was a road game at Atlanta, far from a chump.

The whole thing during our 3 game skid and 4 of 5 prior to this is we were worn down due to the sched. I say now as I said then - it's no excuse this year...mutual disadvantage.

QuickRelease
02-14-2012, 08:01 PM
Both Miami games, we have looked totally outclassed.

Steagles
02-14-2012, 08:01 PM
I want to see David West cage fight Lebron.

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 08:01 PM
As soon as the Heat double team them,they really **** their pants.No composure ,no awareness no ****ing anything.Disgraceful performance.

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 08:02 PM
At best, there are 55 Pacers fans there tonight. After tonight, I'd imagine even that number will decrease.

yoadknux
02-14-2012, 08:02 PM
Huh.
George has 5 turnovers and it's not even halftime yet.

gummy
02-14-2012, 08:02 PM
David West looks like he's trying, at least.

I hope he helps Coach V drop the hammer at halftime. Not that it'll mean much in the final score of this one.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:03 PM
Are you serious? Back 2 back 2 back is a challenge no matter who you play. And part of it was a road game at Atlanta, far from a chump.

The whole thing during our 3 game skid and 4 of 5 prior to this is we were worn down due to the sched. I say now as I said then - it's no excuse this year...mutual disadvantage.

I take backy an retort now that Derek is openly calling people Jackass. We can see what his agenda is.

Heisenberg
02-14-2012, 08:03 PM
this is terrible. i'm staying off the internet for a few days.

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 08:03 PM
Looks like we dusted off the old Jermaine O'Neal offensive playbook for David West tonight.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:04 PM
lol at the heat fans at the games. Embarrasing INDy

gummy
02-14-2012, 08:04 PM
And again we get a glimpse of Vogel and the disgust is all over his face. Mike Wells should make sure to get his ear on the door at halftime. ;)

ejwallace
02-14-2012, 08:05 PM
That was a nice move by Collison....

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 08:05 PM
i hope vogel rips their heads off at halftime

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:05 PM
has anybody else notice that even thought PG is so athletic when ever he gets the ball deep in the paint he is always getting blocked

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 08:06 PM
Was Hibbert missing shots in the pregame layup line too?

PacerPenguins
02-14-2012, 08:06 PM
I'm mad the pacers ar losing but I'm super excited that the knicks are too.... I'm tired of this jeremy lin shiit

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:06 PM
has lebron even rested this game?

ejwallace
02-14-2012, 08:06 PM
And West just faked Bosh onto his ***......There are some glimpses of our team here and there.....We're just getting outplayed....

LoneGranger33
02-14-2012, 08:07 PM
We'd only be down 20 points if Brandon Rush were still here.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:07 PM
Hate to say it, but another game where PG just needs to sit.

Heisenberg
02-14-2012, 08:08 PM
I wish Justified started at 8

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:08 PM
dude stfu...........the pacers had a 3 day break there is no fking excuse for this shiit

another reason why we suck

ejwallace
02-14-2012, 08:08 PM
And big roy comes through.....There's life in there somewhere....

gummy
02-14-2012, 08:09 PM
has lebron even rested this game?

Yes.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:10 PM
throw in the towel Vogel, our team doesn't want to win. 2 teammates missed an open rebound and tipped it to lebron. cool

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 08:11 PM
:picard: Explains how I feel...

Johanvil
02-14-2012, 08:12 PM
2 Pacers go for the rebound with no pressure at all and somehow the ball falls to James for an easy 2.That sums up the night.Good night fellas.If you stay up for the rest of the game,i feel you.I really do.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:12 PM
a 50 point loss looks more and more likely

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:12 PM
2 Pacers go for the rebound with no pressure at all and somehow the ball falls to James for an easy 2.That sums up the night.Good night fellas.If you stay up for the rest of the game,i feel you.I really do.

i have to watch, even if its frustrating as hell

Lance George
02-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Barring injury, no one's taking the East from Miami in a very, very long time. They're light years beyond any other team, including Chicago.

Shade
02-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Guess the first ***-whooping Miami handed to us wasn't a fluke.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Vogel, is there any point arguing at this juncture?

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 08:14 PM
So should I open the postgame thread now? :mad:

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Refs are a straight up joke..

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 08:14 PM
So should I open the postgame thread now? :mad:

Might as well..

Heisenberg
02-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Get back there and tell em you're about to trade all of em Larry

vnzla81
02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Guess the first ***-whooping Miami handed to us wasn't a fluke.

And Dwade didn't play.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Bird looked to be heading back with the team. Maybe he'll rip a new *******. I don't trust FG can do it to the level that's truly deserved here.

RLeWorm
02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
So should I open the postgame thread now? :mad:

lol. a head start about why we got our asses kicked out there

Shade
02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
So should I open the postgame thread now? :mad:

For who, the crickets?

rel
02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
PG seriously lacks any ability to make a play on his own....

ejwallace
02-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I can't imagine how they can justify calling Roy for that elbow, but the elbow Haslam threw gets nothing....

PGisthefuture
02-14-2012, 08:16 PM
Bird looked to be heading back with the team. Maybe he'll rip a new *******. I don't trust FG can do it to the level that's truly deserved here.

Doubt it. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he's going in to tell a few of them they've been traded... mid-game...

BlueNGold
02-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I'm mad the pacers ar losing but I'm super excited that the knicks are too.... I'm tired of this jeremy lin shiit

IDK. Lin is playing good basketball. A lot better than we are seeing in Indy. This is a bad game for the dude and he still has 9 points and 6...yes, 6 assists at the half.

D-BONE
02-14-2012, 08:16 PM
Not taking anything away from Miami's incredible play, but we were not mentally ready to play.