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CoolHand
02-06-2012, 12:38 PM
I was shocked that they didn't have OKC above them, but I'll take the recognition (especially if it helps sell local tickets)!

http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings


The city is all theirs again with the Super Bowl circus leaving town. And after the show the committee (of one) was just treated to -- when Indy added the defending champs to a list of road victims that already includes the Bulls, Lakers, Celts and Magic -- our only complaint for now is that they don't call it Conseco anymore.

Brohan Cruyff
02-06-2012, 12:43 PM
Really don't think we're better than the Thunder, but I'll take it. Very glad to see that the road wins are getting the credit they deserve, think they're a great indicator of the team's poise and ability.

ECKrueger
02-06-2012, 12:52 PM
No way we're the third best team in the league. Pretty cool though!

ASkin_ANight
02-06-2012, 12:56 PM
No way we're the third best team in the league. Pretty cool though!
That's the spirit!

Naptown_Seth
02-06-2012, 01:08 PM
Well after the Mavs game they had the 4th best win PCT and had done it with the fewest home games. They are well above .500 on the road and that includes beating several +500 teams.


You have Foster and Hill for the Magic game, or for the Mavs/Magic split in order to reduce the total minutes needed from everyone, and you easily win that Magic game. They had tons of dead leg shots that would not only have pulled them ahead but would have stretched the lead.


We have a very, very good team on our hands. It just shows the massive impact of two things: two huge "FA" additions (counting Hill as a virtual FA) and the elimination of JOB.

JOB had a 5-6th seed team on his hands and was winning 32-35 games with them instead of 42-44. And then you add a couple of big upgrades to the squad and you move up to 50-54 wins, that's not really a huge stretch, especially if you also have a strong sophmore who is becoming a big impact player (and was not allowed to do much for JOB).

I'm normally leading the "let's get real" group, but honestly what this team does on the court makes them a contender. Great defense all the time, strong rebounding, and balanced scoring.

2004 Pistons anyone? It's not far-fetched, it's a proven formula.

LA_Confidential
02-06-2012, 01:09 PM
We may not be third best but our play has been indicative of what this team is truly capable of. We've played some good ball against so good teams and beat them in their houses. IMO we haven't even scratched he surface of what this team can accomplish. I still feel that this roster can use improvement at the starting 1 and backup 5 spots.

15th parallel
02-06-2012, 01:18 PM
3rd in power rankings for the fast few games is not really that surprising. Just consider the quality of opponents, plus the teams that were beaten ON THE ROAD are "high-quality opponents" (if you're basing it on the opponent's reputation).

While it is debatable if they deserve the recognition, it is nice to see the Pacers getting some media love. This will help get the team some exposure to casual fans and help the team boost their marketability, something that is really needed by this franchise.

GrangerRanger
02-06-2012, 01:28 PM
I think people get confused by power rankings. Indiana may not be the third best team in the league overall, but the way they are playing, they are.

Power rankings are indicative of how a team performs now, not how well they will perform in the future.

Eddie Gill
02-06-2012, 01:30 PM
haha Last week we weren't getting enough national recognition. This week we're getting too much?

ksuttonjr76
02-06-2012, 01:30 PM
Well after the Mavs game they had the 4th best win PCT and had done it with the fewest home games. They are well above .500 on the road and that includes beating several +500 teams.


You have Foster and Hill for the Magic game, or for the Mavs/Magic split in order to reduce the total minutes needed from everyone, and you easily win that Magic game. They had tons of dead leg shots that would not only have pulled them ahead but would have stretched the lead.


We have a very, very good team on our hands. It just shows the massive impact of two things: two huge "FA" additions (counting Hill as a virtual FA) and the elimination of JOB.

JOB had a 5-6th seed team on his hands and was winning 32-35 games with them instead of 42-44. And then you add a couple of big upgrades to the squad and you move up to 50-54 wins, that's not really a huge stretch, especially if you also have a strong sophmore who is becoming a big impact player (and was not allowed to do much for JOB).

I'm normally leading the "let's get real" group, but honestly what this team does on the court makes them a contender. Great defense all the time, strong rebounding, and balanced scoring.

2004 Pistons anyone? It's not far-fetched, it's a proven formula.

And I want to add...the team is performing great without benefit of training camp, preseason games, and regular practice time.

Eleazar
02-06-2012, 01:58 PM
JOB had a 5-6th seed team on his hands and was winning 32-35 games with them instead of 42-44. And then you add a couple of big upgrades to the squad and you move up to 50-54 wins, that's not really a huge stretch, especially if you also have a strong sophmore who is becoming a big impact player (and was not allowed to do much for JOB).


I want to highlight this point as people like to overlook it. Under JOB the only reason this team won was in spite of him. This team would have been competing for the 4-6 seed last year with Vogel as the head coach on the first day of training camp.

JB24
02-06-2012, 02:06 PM
I think that's a little unfair on JOB. He underachieved in his last year and a half, but he squeezed every win he could have out of the two teams before that.

I still can't get over how many close losses they had in 08-09. Were it not for a few unlucky bounces that could have easily been a playoff team. Part of that was JOB's mind-numbing late-game rotations, but even until last season under Vogel this team had a tendency of fading in the clutch.

ksuttonjr76
02-06-2012, 02:17 PM
I want to highlight this point as people like to overlook it. Under JOB the only reason this team won was in spite of him. This team would have been competing for the 4-6 seed last year with Vogel as the head coach on the first day of training camp.

In hindsight, I don't even see how we won the number of games that we did under JOB. Then again, jack up enough 3's with descent to good 3PT shooters, and I guess any team can win on any given night.

It just makes me so angry that we may have "wasted" one year of Hibbert, George, Hansbrough, and Rush's (yeah, I said it) playing potential by keeping JOB one year too many.

ksuttonjr76
02-06-2012, 02:20 PM
I think that's a little unfair on JOB. He underachieved in his last year and a half, but he squeezed every win he could have out of the two teams before that.

I still can't get over how many close losses they had in 08-09. Were it not for a few unlucky bounces that could have easily been a playoff team. Part of that was JOB's mind-numbing late-game rotations, but even until last season under Vogel this team had a tendency of fading in the clutch.

Late-game rotations...mid-game rotations....pre-game rotations....game to game rotations....

Brohan Cruyff
02-06-2012, 02:21 PM
In hindsight, I don't even see how we won the number of games that we did under JOB. Then again, jack up enough 3's with descent to good 3PT shooters, and I guess any team can win on any given night.

It just makes me so angry that we may have "wasted" one year of Hibbert, George, Hansbrough, and Rush's (yeah, I said it) playing potential by keeping JOB one year too many.

I wonder what kind of player Rush would have been with Vogel as coach rather than JOB. There's at least a chance his potential would have been realized to a greater extent (though no guarantees, obviously).

ksuttonjr76
02-06-2012, 02:24 PM
I wonder what kind of player Rush would have been with Vogel as coach rather than JOB. There's at least a chance his potential would have been realized to a greater extent (though no guarantees, obviously).

At the minium...involved in the offense instead of waiting in the corners for a pass.

Ratking
02-06-2012, 03:02 PM
This probably shouldn't bother me all that much, but it would have been appropriate to throw up a picture of one of our guys on the main page for this week's power-rankings, and at least make note of our accomplishment in the summary before the rankings. When was the last time we were ranked this high? I think one of our players (maybe Paul George) warrants more recognition for his/the team's accomplishments than Jeremy Lin, Paul Pierce, and Tony Parker.

Maybe this will motivate our team, but I dont think any team has made such a move since pre-season and has not been represented via photo or in the summary. Thats just a bit ridiculous.

Ace E.Anderson
02-06-2012, 03:10 PM
I think people get confused by power rankings. Indiana may not be the third best team in the league overall, but the way they are playing, they are.

Power rankings are indicative of how a team performs now, not how well they will perform in the future.

Lol after that Magic game IDK how anybody could say we're playing the 3rd best brand of basketball in the league right now. [/COLOR]

Who cares whether or not we're that good (which we probably aren't) the fact that we're even considered to be that good right now is a big step in the turning around of this franchise.

Eddie Gill
02-06-2012, 03:29 PM
I'm a little surprised/disappointed in some of you still not believing we are a good team. Maybe it's a defense mechanism developed over the JOB years - expecting the worst in an attempt to temper the disappointment. I get that. But somewhere along the way I think we reached a turning point - when we started EXPECTING rather than hoping to win on any given night. There is no way to look at how this team plays (still no back-to-back losses), how they respond to adversity (see road record), and roster depth, and not believe we are a serious threat in the Eastern Conference THIS season.

Pacersalltheway10
02-06-2012, 03:30 PM
What's great about this team is that they go into every game believing they are the best and they can compete with anybody.

PGisthefuture
02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
I just hope that our performance against Orlando didn't ruin the chance to impress the casual fans to come back. I think the sky is the limit for this team and it's time to see that kind of crowd at every game in the Fieldhouse.

Trader Joe
02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
I'm sure seeing us house Dallas in the second half live like Stein did had to leave a pretty big impact.

The team clearly had dead legs against Orlando. Every miss was short.

picasso
02-06-2012, 03:43 PM
We are a pretty damm good team.. We have beat teams in their Dojo.

Why do we not deserve to be the 3rd best? Philly has had a cupcake schedule and have played a ton of there games at home. Yes they beat Chitown! But at there house.

We have beaten 2 of the best home teams in the league..

LAL and Chicago..

This team is for real and will continue to get better. We played horrible vs Orlando! But we were still in it.. What does that tell you? at our worse we almost beat Orlando. We made runs just couldn't get over the top. Legs were shot dead.

joeyd
02-06-2012, 03:53 PM
The road record along with the great road wins against the beasts of the league is huge. Not losing two in a row is huge. The fact that the only two home losses are to one team is significant. All great indicators for a nice playoff run.

IndySDExport
02-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Our game against philly at home on march 14th just got picked up for airing on espn. At least the put their cameras where their ranks are.

ksuttonjr76
02-06-2012, 04:56 PM
The road record along with the great road wins against the beasts of the league is huge. Not losing two in a row is huge. The fact that the only two home losses are to one team is significant. All great indicators for a nice playoff run..

Or an indication that we don't want to have a matchup against the Orlando Magic ;) .

Trader Joe
02-06-2012, 05:07 PM
The Magic have caught us at two very good times the times they have beat us at home. They require a lot of energy to defend (from the paint all the way to the 3 point line) and any time you come home from a winning western conference road trip, you are going to run on fumes.

joeyd
02-06-2012, 05:15 PM
The Magic have caught us at two very good times the times they have beat us at home. They require a lot of energy to defend (from the paint all the way to the 3 point line) and any time you come home from a winning western conference road trip, you are going to run on fumes.

True. I think if we had Foster for those games, at the very least it would have meant that Howard might have had a few more trips to the line vs. some easy buckets, and given his poor rate of success from the charity stripe, both games might have had different outcomes.

ECKrueger
02-06-2012, 05:39 PM
I think people get confused by power rankings. Indiana may not be the third best team in the league overall, but the way they are playing, they are.

Power rankings are indicative of how a team performs now, not how well they will perform in the future.

This is true I guess. While I don't exactly think we're the 3rd best team in the league, I do think we're up there. I certainly don't think we aren't good, just not top 3 good yet.

daschysta
02-06-2012, 07:16 PM
We deserve this slot.

The Sixers have had a much easier schedule, and have played most of it at home to boot, and yet our records are virtually identical.

We've beat numerous top teams on the road, and went 7-3 over our last 10 despite playing the 3rd most difficult schedule in the NBA.

We clearly had dead legs vs. orl, yet we still had a chance to take it.

We may or may not actually be 3rd best in the NBA yet, but we ARE playing like we are, and it isn't a stretch to see the pacers as a top 5 NBA squad. We're better than Denver imo, and our style is more suited to winning in the Postseason, and Denver imo is the second best team in the West, same thing with the Clippers who play sorry defense.

I think we're the 3rd best team in the East after Miami and Chicago and would be a top 2 or 3 team in the West as well. We're 4-1 (all on the road) against the supposedly "superior" Western Conference, we're balling right now.

BlueNGold
02-06-2012, 10:32 PM
I cannot believe we are talking anything near the top of the league. 12 months ago, we were hoping we'd crack .500....