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GrangerRanger
02-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Am I the only one concerned with Vogel's lineups on games which are back to back? It seems like on a majority of the back to back situations, even with the game in hand, he's keeping our guys out there for a long while.

I didn't take the time to look over everyone's minutes, but the 31 year old West coming off surgery logged 37 minutes last night. Paul George had 41.

Is this because of our small roster size? If so, why hasn't a move been made to bring in a Solomon Jones type player at the bare minimum? We have 11 active players right now.

Am I the only one concerned with this?

CableKC
02-04-2012, 06:05 PM
I would have to get a broader sample when it comes to B2B games to answer this. In yesterday's game, the Starting 7 ( minus GH ) did play well above their regular minutes...but I do not know if this is an anomaly or not. On average, no one has played more then 32 mpg...where the frontcourt of Hibbert, West and Hansbrough average between no more than 24, 28, 29 MPG respectively.

ilive4sports
02-04-2012, 06:12 PM
West and George were the two biggest reasons we won that game last night. Vogel is doing what needs to be done to win games. George is playing more minutes with Hill out.

We've only lost one game on the second of a back to back (our first one against the Pistons after beating the Cavs), we have won 3 though.

Johanvil
02-04-2012, 06:23 PM
Before the past couple of games we were talking about how well we had shared the playing time between our starters and the bench and there even was a case that Vogel might rested the starters a bit too much in some games.Now we are gonna worry if they will be fatigued?Of course there will be but not down to Vogel.All the teams are facing that and it's clearly a schedule thing.We needed them(West and PG) a lot, as it was said,to win the game yesterday as we needed Danny to play some extra minutes in Minnesota.I'm pretty sure Danny broke the 40 MPG mark just in the games against Miny and New Jersey.He is the first one in that category with 34.3 MGP.West has 29.6

Pacer Fan
02-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Our bench kinda sux to produce offense and to win games against the better teams the starter minutes will be high or they won't win.

The higher minutes last night are caused do to Hill being out and playing a very good team. It was a statement game and they didn't want to lose.

If the team has a good lead at the right rotation time and the bench can somewhat maintain then the starters will sit longer. But again, last night, the starters had to play more just to maintain and ultimately pulled ahead and won the game.

I am sure the front office have been and will continue to get some help to strengthen the teams depth.

Will Galen
02-04-2012, 07:16 PM
If I remember right, in Granger's last 4 games he's played 37,41,41,37 minutes. The problem with that is fatigued players are more susceptible to injury. So yes I'm worried about it, I don't want our fairy-tail season to end because of an injury.

xIndyFan
02-04-2012, 10:32 PM
it looks like vogel is doing the thing most coaches do as the season goes on, he plays his good players too much. every year, every coach, team struggles and the good players start playing 40 mpg and the scrubs 10.

at some point, vogel is just going to have to let the bench play, instead of waiting for them to have a good game.

Sookie
02-05-2012, 02:50 AM
Well, the bench was awful last night. But they were actually pretty good tonight (probably better than the starters in a lot of ways) and should have played more.

rock747
02-05-2012, 03:04 AM
Has there been any update on Hill?

CoolHand
02-05-2012, 11:04 AM
Has there been any update on Hill?

Denari said they'd know more on Monday, but referred to it as a sprained ankle..

PacerPenguins
02-05-2012, 11:45 AM
at the game last night.... and u could tell they looked exhausted... i understand which is y i wasn't upset over the loss

Shade
02-05-2012, 11:51 AM
Prophetic.

jeffg-body
02-05-2012, 03:22 PM
I do think fatigue had something to do with last night and hopefully we can adjust minutes in the future to help with that. As the season continues we should find that balance with the starters and bench and keep our guys fresher, especially against the tougher teams.

pacer4ever
02-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Am I the only one concerned with Vogel's lineups on games which are back to back? It seems like on a majority of the back to back situations, even with the game in hand, he's keeping our guys out there for a long while.

I didn't take the time to look over everyone's minutes, but the 31 year old West coming off surgery logged 37 minutes last night. Paul George had 41.

Is this because of our small roster size? If so, why hasn't a move been made to bring in a Solomon Jones type player at the bare minimum? We have 11 active players right now.

Am I the only one concerned with this?


I thought you were done with this team??

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Richard_Skull
02-06-2012, 11:48 AM
10 Day contracts about to be allowed maybe we will get a player here and there to spell guys/ help when ones injured.