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vnzla81
02-03-2012, 11:52 PM
An Star was born today guys, Paul George is going to be a beast, wow.


30 points 9rebounds 5ast 1 block and he is only 21 years old? :drool:

PacerPenguins
02-03-2012, 11:55 PM
PG showing his potential... granger and roy played terrible an we still one... GREAT GAME AND GREAT COACHING!!!

Unclebuck
02-03-2012, 11:56 PM
That was the most impressive game of the season. Won't say th mavs played great, but this was a very intense well played regular season nba game

PaceBalls
02-03-2012, 11:57 PM
Paul George... my goodness. What a show. People have been asking how good we can be when we hit some shots. That's how good. That second half was total domination of the world champs on their home court. Holy cow.

PacersFan1991
02-03-2012, 11:57 PM
I love this team. That is all.

15th parallel
02-03-2012, 11:58 PM
Just so many weapons for this team. DG last time, then PG today...damn PG is turning out to be the greatest steal in the draft!

presto123
02-03-2012, 11:58 PM
I'm thinking maybe Paul George was in a zone.

graphic-er
02-03-2012, 11:58 PM
Okay I will only say it once, and the issue is now dead to me.

It is now quite clear....

Paul George > Gordon Hayward

Its true. He's no Gordon Hayward. He is way better.

xBulletproof
02-03-2012, 11:59 PM
I would marry that aggressive Paul George.

Just bought a PG24 ABA Jersey today while at the Super Bowl Village, and then he plays like this. Anyone want to fund me the money to buy one before every game? :laugh:

focused444
02-03-2012, 11:59 PM
PG showing his potential... granger and him played terrible an we still one... GREAT GAME AND GREAT COACHING!!!

granger and who?

Trophy
02-03-2012, 11:59 PM
Nothing sweeter than knocking off the defending champs, in their own building no less!

This Pacers team is a true contender.

What a night for PG24! He's been tearing it up lately and he's only going to get better.

10 games over .500. This is sweet! :dance:

rexnom
02-03-2012, 11:59 PM
These are the types of wins we weren't getting early in the season. Just clearly better than the Mavs tonight.

DEEman
02-04-2012, 12:00 AM
http://youtu.be/rZmnqY5iJUg

OMG PG....

PacerPenguins
02-04-2012, 12:00 AM
somewhere JoB is cringing

pathil275
02-04-2012, 12:00 AM
I came home and the first thing I saw after turning on the league pass was Paul ****ing George blocking some random Dallas player (random champion that is). On the other end, he is the first one open and nails down a three. He is just so good. Best. Pick. Ever. I'd argue he'll have a better career than John Wall.

PacersHomer
02-04-2012, 12:00 AM
We're awesome. Paul George is awesome.

Bball
02-04-2012, 12:01 AM
Hopefully Indy and Indiana starts paying attention because this team is special.

Pacer Fan
02-04-2012, 12:01 AM
He is what we thought he is and he was the best player on the floor...King George!

Pacemaker
02-04-2012, 12:01 AM
We are moving up guys!! Philly lost today!! :D

Trader Joe
02-04-2012, 12:01 AM
So...here's my concern, how much is the IU vs. Purdue game being at the exact same time as the Pacers game going to hurt attendance tomorrow?

BringJackBack
02-04-2012, 12:01 AM
I think that with a great bench we are contending... Paul George is budding, the trio of Danny-Roy-West are legitimate fringe all-stars, and the complimentary pieces (DC, Tyler, Hill, Jones) match up better than most other teams. Add some more talented veterans and we are set, in my opinion. No more need for a guy who can create his own, unless it's off the bench for a spark...

MiaDragon
02-04-2012, 12:02 AM
PG showing his potential... granger and him played terrible an we still one... GREAT GAME AND GREAT COACHING!!!

come again?

travmil
02-04-2012, 12:02 AM
Okay I will only say it once, and the issue is now dead to me.

It is now quite clear....

Paul George > Gordon Hayward

Its true. He's no Gordon Hayward. He is way better.

I wish I could thank a post twice.

Magic P
02-04-2012, 12:02 AM
After the block and three pointer by George you can see Jeff Foster saying, "he is a bad mother****er."

PacerPenguins
02-04-2012, 12:03 AM
come again?

meant to put granger and roy...my bad

Drewtone
02-04-2012, 12:03 AM
You guys remember when Zeke always said that one day, Bender would just go into a game, dominate, and never go back to the bench? And we waited and waited? Well, it just happened... and it wasn't Bender. Feels good though!

BringJackBack
02-04-2012, 12:03 AM
Yup, that Trevor Ariza....

PacersHomer
02-04-2012, 12:03 AM
We are moving up guys!! Philly lost today!! :D

Think of how many they'll lose when they actually play road games!

presto123
02-04-2012, 12:04 AM
D West has been huge. A guy that consistently can hit that mid range shot.

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2012, 12:04 AM
Wow...Indiana is definitely a tough team. Am I the only who expects this team to win almost every game? I don't even entertain "they might, because [insert reason]" theories anymore.

TheDavisBrothers
02-04-2012, 12:04 AM
granger and who?

I'm assuming Roy

BlueNGold
02-04-2012, 12:04 AM
somewhere JoB is cringing

I'm finally beginning to feel sorry for him. Dude has to eat and nobody's going to hire him. Maybe he can catch on with a team trying to tank...:-p

focused444
02-04-2012, 12:05 AM
I love PG24's demeanor on the court...He's making spectacular plays all over the floor and doesn't react at all. Block a shot then hit the 3...steal the ball and slam it down...just another day at the office for Paul George...Love this kid

BlueNGold
02-04-2012, 12:05 AM
I want Miami

presto123
02-04-2012, 12:06 AM
I want Miami


Totally. We played like crap the first time.

graphic-er
02-04-2012, 12:07 AM
I want Miami

I want to them play OKC. To see PG guarding KD. Its going to be Legendary.

Conflict
02-04-2012, 12:07 AM
D West has been huge. A guy that consistently can hit that mid range shot.

Not even that mid range shot. He played pressure defense on Dirk. Dirk went on to score some amazing points, but thats Dirk. West got some deflections and other than that Dirk passed the ball many times to his teammates for bad shots. Love this team D.

Kemo
02-04-2012, 12:07 AM
I am sure glad FSI plays the replay of the game back to back...
Because this game was so damn good, I want to watch it again...

Not only that, but I believe this is the game in George's career, that will be considered by basketball historians, as the turning point in which he rises to stardom ..

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 12:07 AM
So...here's my concern, how much is the IU vs. Purdue game being at the exact same time as the Pacers game going to hurt attendance tomorrow?
Meh, I don't think it should. Dwight'll be in town, there's obviously a few tourists in town that're sports fans. It may not be full of actual Pacers fans, but I'd still be disappointed if it's not a sell out.

IndySDExport
02-04-2012, 12:08 AM
10 games over 0.500.

period.

We have beaten the Magic, Bulls, Lakers, Mavs and Celtics on the road (among many, many others). For god sakes, we've only played seven home games! Seven!

If you live in the Indianapolis area, you freaking better be at BLF on Saturday.

Pacergeek
02-04-2012, 12:08 AM
I want OKC

LA_Confidential
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
Paul George... my goodness. What a show. People have been asking how good we can be when we hit some shots. That's how good. That second half was total domination of the world champs on their home court. Holy cow.

It looks like the "light" has come on for the kid. Games like this show what he can truly be. Other times he fades but I charge that to the fact that he's the young gun. He's still earning his stripes. No worries at all.

This team is a team we can be proud of. And the Pacers are starting to gain some real recognition. We keep playing like this and its gonna be mighty difficult for quality free agents just dismiss Indy.

PacerPenguins
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
10 games over 0.500.

period.

We have beaten the Magic, Bulls, Lakers, Mavs and Celtics on the road (among many, many others). For god sakes, we've only played seven home games! Seven!

If you live in the Indianapolis area, you freaking better be at BLF on Saturday.

I AM!!!!!! :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:: dance::dance::dance:

ilive4sports
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
Yup, that Trevor Ariza....

No no, Tayshaun Prince!

Seriously, Paul George, what a beast this kid is becoming. He would have torched Minnesota if he didn't get in foul trouble.

We just beat the defending champions on their home court. We are 16-6. And we've only played 7 home games.

IS THIS REAL LIFE?

MiaDragon
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
10 games over 0.500.

period.

We have beaten the Magic, Bulls, Lakers, Mavs and Celtics on the road (among many, many others). For god sakes, we've only played seven home games! Seven!

If you live in the Indianapolis area, you freaking better be at BLF on Saturday.

I may have to find a cheap flight and come join the fun.

presto123
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
I want New Orleans!

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2012, 12:10 AM
I want Miami

I agree. I just watched the Pretenders/Contenders. Miami and Chicago seems to be the chosen teams for the ECF, but I don't know anymore. Keeping it real, Chicago has a more BALANCED team than Miami, but Miami....I feel that Indiana should be able to beat this team in a 7-game series.

And that's assuming that we don't get another scorer to replace George Hill.

DGPR
02-04-2012, 12:10 AM
Is it ok to be excited yet?

Speed
02-04-2012, 12:12 AM
An Star was born today guys, Paul George is going to be a beast, wow.


30 points 9rebounds 5ast 1 block and he is only 21 years old? :drool:

And 5 steals and tough D on Jason Terry in crunch time.

pacers74
02-04-2012, 12:12 AM
ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein



Frank Vogel on Paul George: "He's oozing confidence. ... He's good at pretty much everything." (Comment: Where do I co-sign?)

ejwallace
02-04-2012, 12:12 AM
Wait....are we on a 4 game win streak??

Pacersalltheway10
02-04-2012, 12:13 AM
No no, Tayshaun Prince!

Seriously, Paul George, what a beast this kid is becoming. He would have torched Minnesota if he didn't get in foul trouble.

We just beat the defending champions on their home court. We are 16-6. And we've only played 7 home games.

IS THIS REAL LIFE?

Yes,David, this is real life. ;)

TheDon
02-04-2012, 12:13 AM
I wish I could thank a post twice.

actually I did, I thanked it...then removed my thanks...just so I could thank it again

Steagles
02-04-2012, 12:14 AM
I agree. I just watched the Pretenders/Contenders. Miami and Chicago seems to be the chosen teams for the ECF, but I don't know anymore. Keeping it real, Chicago has a more BALANCED team than Miami, but Miami....I feel that Indiana should be able to beat this team in a 7-game series.

And that's assuming that we don't get another scorer to replace George Hill.

I agree completely. We have the defenders to slow them down and we have an actual 5. And a bench rather than 3 guys.


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Frostwolf
02-04-2012, 12:14 AM
i'm still worried about the bench since hill's going to be out for a while, but PAUL ****ING GEORGE

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Wait....are we on a 4 game win streak??

And it's the current best streak in the NBA.

Trader Joe
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Paul George

30 PTS 9 REBS 5 ASTS 5 STLS 1 MONSTER BLOCK 11/19 from the field 7/11 from 3

ZERO ****ING TURNOVERS

This may be one of the single best stat lines we have seen from an NBA Pacer EVER.

DGPR
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Bill Simmons predicted on his podcast after the lockout that the Pacers could be a team that comes out and rips off 48 wins this season. Guess who's on pace for 48 wins?

Conflict
02-04-2012, 12:16 AM
Wait....are we on a 4 game win streak??

Haha, we´re ****ed with a 5 game winning streak ;)

Jessen
02-04-2012, 12:16 AM
I want Miami

I want a title. :cheers:

granger
02-04-2012, 12:16 AM
HEY LISTEN ME INDIANA. I m waking up in the middle of the ****ing night to watch this team from thousands miles away, you better get your *** of from your couches and support this team. Because they deserve.

2minutes twoa
02-04-2012, 12:16 AM
Cold blooded, fearless, assassins!! These are your Indiana Pacers!! Love this team!

Johanvil
02-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Never got a chance to see the game but truly glad that we registered another win on the road against the defending champions this time.Well done to the team.Great to hear that George had an amazing game.

Is it too much to say that i enjoyed this much more than PG's dunk against the Nets?
I just can't get enough of it....
http://www.nba.com/video/games/mavericks/2012/02/03/0021100340_ind_dal_play2.nba

travmil
02-04-2012, 12:18 AM
I have a feeling after the Super Bowl it's gonna start getting more crowded in BLF.

vnzla81
02-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Brandon Rush @KCsFinest4
@King24George with the 30 ball. I see u lil bro

Bball
02-04-2012, 12:19 AM
David West = Byron Scott

PacersForever
02-04-2012, 12:19 AM
I am so impressed and proud of this team.

Ozwalt72
02-04-2012, 12:19 AM
Okay I will only say it once, and the issue is now dead to me.

It is now quite clear....

Paul George > Gordon Hayward

Its true. He's no Gordon Hayward. He is way better.

I feel like you've been pumpin up Hayward so hard just at the offhand chance you could eventually say this! :D

No. Just kidding. Of course I think Hayward can and will be a heck of a player.

Drewtone
02-04-2012, 12:20 AM
The real question is whether there is enough dancing fruit for Peck's Odd Thoughts on this one and PG?

Anthem
02-04-2012, 12:20 AM
I wouldn't trade Paul George for Eric Gordon.

Unclebuck
02-04-2012, 12:21 AM
Paul George

30 PTS 9 REBS 5 ASTS 5 STLS 1 MONSTER BLOCK 11/19 from the field 7/11 from 3

ZERO ****ING TURNOVERS

This may be one of the single best stat lines we have seen from an NBA Pacer EVER.

U don't remember Artests Easter age against the Heat. Quadruple double

PacersHomer
02-04-2012, 12:21 AM
I feel like you've been pumpin up Hayward so hard just at the offhand chance you could eventually say this! :D

No. Just kidding. Of course I think Hayward can and will be a heck of a player.

Hayward is already pretty good and well-rounded, but George is on a different level than the entire 2010 NBA Draft class right now. We're so lucky he was there at 10. I can't wait to see him in person again tomorrow night.

RLeWorm
02-04-2012, 12:21 AM
im telling you guys, this team is going to do special things in the playoffs this year

rexnom
02-04-2012, 12:21 AM
By the way, another great, underrated game for Darren Collison. I feel extremely comfortable with him at the point.

vnzla81
02-04-2012, 12:22 AM
I wouldn't trade Paul George for Monta Ellis.

Fixed :D

Trader Joe
02-04-2012, 12:23 AM
U don't remember Artests Easter age against the Heat. Quadruple double

I don't remember it exactly...but I did say one of.

Sookie
02-04-2012, 12:23 AM
Paul George

30 PTS 9 REBS 5 ASTS 5 STLS 1 MONSTER BLOCK 11/19 from the field 7/11 from 3

ZERO ****ING TURNOVERS

This may be one of the single best stat lines we have seen from an NBA Pacer EVER.

The tripple double is often talked about as being a huge night, but even rarer is the 4 5's night. (Over 5 in 4 of points, rebounds, assists, steals or blocks..Candace Parker is the only player I've ever seen get a 5 for 5 night.) And for PG to do it so dominantly..

Marlin
02-04-2012, 12:24 AM
David West = Byron Scott

Let's hope so. Btw, in the +/- he was +27 for the night, he's making a difference

And well, Paul..we're watching him grow in front of our eyes, each and every game, I for one am glad to have this chance, even if it's 5.30 am. He's something special.

joeyd
02-04-2012, 12:26 AM
After the block and three pointer by George you can see Jeff Foster saying, "he is a bad mother****er."

Gotta give Jeff credit. Before Paul's first season, during one of the team's pre-season community meet-n-greet outings, Jeff told us to watch Paul and said that he was going to be special.

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2012, 12:26 AM
I agree completely. We have the defenders to slow them down and we have an actual 5. And a bench rather than 3 guys.


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Exactly. Personally, I had to throw out Jon Barry's vote, since we all know how he REALLY feels about the Pacers.

Pacergeek
02-04-2012, 12:26 AM
Will we get national attention now? Looks like Denver is getting some publicity, but we are better than the Nuggets

Pacer Fan
02-04-2012, 12:27 AM
So, you think Paul George is on Larry's untouchable list? :happydanc

presto123
02-04-2012, 12:28 AM
I want Miami

Valentines Day at home.:dance:

Pacer Fan
02-04-2012, 12:29 AM
Dwight Howard says they have to get some revenge tom. night!!!

immortality
02-04-2012, 12:29 AM
If Paul George keeps improving, I rather not sign Eric Gordon...

Psyren
02-04-2012, 12:29 AM
meant to put granger and roy...my bad

Neither played bad...

vnzla81
02-04-2012, 12:33 AM
:nod:

http://twelve-in-twelve.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/loveutah.jpg

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2012, 12:33 AM
Reviewing the past W/L for the season. With the way this team has been playing of late, I STILL can't believe that we lost to the Pistons and Kings the way we did.

Pacerized
02-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Will we get national attention now? Looks like Denver is getting some publicity, but we are better than the Nuggets

Living where I do, I see a lot of Nuggets basketball. I like the team and I'm glad they're doing well after the Melo drama. There are a lot of similarities between the Pacers and Nuggets. It amazes me how much more respect the Nuggets are getting nationally then the Pacers are. Right now ESPN has the Nuggets on the front nba page questioning if they're title contender material. That question has never came up in anything I've read about the Pacers.
I don't think we're a top 2 team in the East but I think we have a chance.
1 major pickup with either an impact big man for our bench or a significant upgrade at the point and we're Title contenders IMO.

Brohan Cruyff
02-04-2012, 12:34 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN'T FEEL MY FACE

That's all I have.

crunk-juice
02-04-2012, 12:34 AM
but we are better than the Nuggets

i dont know about that. Denver is a very good team as well.

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Reviewing the past W/L for the season. With the way this team has been playing of late, I STILL can't believe that we lost to the Pistons and Kings the way we did.

We have come a ways in the past month.

Brohan Cruyff
02-04-2012, 12:35 AM
i'm still worried about the bench since hill's going to be out for a while, but PAUL ****ING GEORGE

Apropos of nothing, but I love your avatar.

The Rocker
02-04-2012, 12:35 AM
we are simply the best

joeyd
02-04-2012, 12:39 AM
I'll tell you what. Chance favors the prepared mind. Frank has got this team prepared for just about every game, home or road, and it shows. And the coaches are amazing with the half-time adjustments.

We didn't just win a squeaker, we did quite well tonight, and kept the Mavs under 90.

Personally I am looking forward to a revenge game against the Clippers here at home, and of course the Thunder. What a statement to do well against the WC.

Of course, if we can play ball with the Heat and at least hold serve and win our games at home, then this regular season could go down in the books as one of the team's best ever.

MaHa3000
02-04-2012, 12:39 AM
This feels so good after all these years of mediocrity. Pacers fan can hold their heads up high again.

rock747
02-04-2012, 12:41 AM
I'm bummed I have plans for tommorow nigh. I would rather stay home and watch the game!!! Paul George is breaking out!!

pwee31
02-04-2012, 12:41 AM
All these road wins are just stupid great!!

Have to hold serve at home. Can't let the Magic come into the Fieldhouse again and embarrass us, especially not the night before the Super Bowl with what should be a fun celeb and media filled crowd

The Future
02-04-2012, 12:41 AM
Can someone post George highlights of this game please?

Frostwolf
02-04-2012, 12:47 AM
Apropos of nothing, but I love your avatar.

god and the king

imawhat
02-04-2012, 12:49 AM
Wow, agree with UB here. Most impressive win so far. We played a long, smart team that executes really well.

We were rolling tonight! We are starting to click offensively.

This is the first time I've thought we're seeing something special. This team is improving and improving fast. David West, you were onto something when you decided to sign with us.

Paul George definitely had his "he gets it" moment with that dunk. Guess what kid? You can play!

Doddage
02-04-2012, 12:51 AM
Are we really 16-6?

http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/feels-good-man-goat-squint-12883904505.jpg

hoosierguy
02-04-2012, 12:52 AM
Good lord, the schedule doesn't get any easier- the next six are all against teams with winning records.

Kid Minneapolis
02-04-2012, 12:54 AM
Paul George ---

11/19 (7/11 on 3s)...
9 rbs
5 ast
5 stls
1 block
1 PF
0 turnovers
30 points

And that one block was LeBron James'-style, and on Terry no less, who's quicker than a White Castle *****. Only 3 people in the world can make that block... LBJ, Tayshaun Prince on Reggie, and Paul George.

xBulletproof
02-04-2012, 12:56 AM
At halftime on ESPN they showed the highlights and you could hear the guys go ... "oooh" when they showed the PG block. When they said he scored 30, you could hear Broussard and Wilbon both repeat .... "THIRTY!?" .....

You could tell they hadn't seen the highlights or box score yet and were shocked. :laugh:

graphic-er
02-04-2012, 12:58 AM
At halftime on ESPN they showed the highlights and you could hear the guys go ... "oooh" when they showed the PG block. When they said he scored 30, you could hear Broussard and Wilbon both repeat .... "THIRTY!?" .....

You could tell they hadn't seen the highlights or box score yet and were shocked. :laugh:

They said Pacers are a beast!

Nuntius
02-04-2012, 01:01 AM
HEY LISTEN ME INDIANA. I m waking up in the middle of the ****ing night to watch this team from thousands miles away, you better get your *** of from your couches and support this team. Because they deserve.

This. And you're not alone, my friend. Me, Johanvil, that guy from Portugal, that guy from Germany, a guy from the Netherlands. There are a lot of international Pacer fans and this team really deserves it :)

Pacerfan
02-04-2012, 01:02 AM
TJ Ford @tj_ford

Always said u will be all- star soon🏀🏀🏀@King24George great game my dude.

https://twitter.com/#!/tj_ford

TheDon
02-04-2012, 01:04 AM
also the cool chinese pacers fans :)

pacers74
02-04-2012, 01:08 AM
Hoya2aPacer (https://twitter.com/#!/Hoya2aPacer) Roy Hibbert



My man <S>@</S>King24George (https://twitter.com/#!/King24George) better be in the Rookie Soph game during All Star Weekend. Kid been balling.

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 01:08 AM
from the guys over at 8 Points, 9 Seconds

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UB6aq1TX_EE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pizza guy
02-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Paul George is currently trending on twitter. What a game for him! If this is what we're going to get from PG24 for his career, the rest of the NBA should just go ahead and shut down.

This TEAM is amazing.

I'll probably add more to Peck's Odd Thoughts, but right now, I'm still just riding the wave of excitement from this win. Incredible.

Did I mention that Paul George is a freaking STUD?

travmil
02-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Look at the Mavs fans in the background of the blocked shot with the oooohhhhhh daaayuuum expressions on their faces.

Sookie
02-04-2012, 01:12 AM
from the guys over at 8 Points, 9 Seconds

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UB6aq1TX_EE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What's awesome about that is he kept it in bounds too. (Instead of getting all manly and swatting it three rows into the stands..)

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 01:17 AM
Is Paul George trying to make his case for the dunk contest or the 3 point contest? Maybe both?

Anthem
02-04-2012, 01:17 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?

xBulletproof
02-04-2012, 01:22 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?

I don't know, but he played almost 20 minutes and took 1 shot. Color me impressed.

PacersRule
02-04-2012, 01:23 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?

I'm sure someone could give you a more detailed answer, but from what I saw, he just seemed really unsure of himself when he got the ball. Looked to pass first when the ball was passed to him instead of driving in and getting his own shot.

MTM
02-04-2012, 01:24 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?

I am sometimes a glass half full guy and sometimes a glass half empty guy. After witnessing one of the most incredible all-around performances by a man wearing a Pacers jersey, I can't help but remember that Tyler had a stretch near the end of last year when he was scoring 30 points and grabbing 10 boards and we were naming him the future starting PF. I love how PG is playing... but can he make a long-term habit out of it? Something happened to Tyler, and I worry that it is not fixable.:confused:

Sookie
02-04-2012, 01:24 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?

Really weird, for a large portion of the game, he looked like he wasn't even trying that hard.

My guess is it's completely a confidence thing. But he's got some fundamental problems, like boxing out, that he needs to take care of.

I have to say though, people are stating that "players have adjusted to Tyler" and that's where this poor performance is coming from. I don't think so. He's still getting hammered, he's just not getting the call. So either the refs have adjusted, or they're just poor.

Team Indy
02-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Bird has till this offseason to significantly add to the team. The capspace won't be around much longer. For better or worse, I think the Pacers will be a luxury tax team in the near future.

dohman
02-04-2012, 01:27 AM
What a game to watch live. Its been since 04 since I have been able to watch this game in person and leave happy.

I was right behind the bench and Georges body language was amazing. He had this swagger that was like... This is nothing big, he made it look so easy and inside the offense.

pacerDU
02-04-2012, 01:28 AM
Pacers seem to have always had lots of international fans. I'm Aussie and there are a few of us on here.


It's amazing, everytime you think "man tough schedule it'll be tough to win ANOTHER one on the road", these guys do it! I'm so proud of these boys and so proud to be a Pacer fan.

Now, c'mon Indiana get out to BLF and support these guys!

BlueNGold
02-04-2012, 01:28 AM
I'm sure someone could give you a more detailed answer, but from what I saw, he just seemed really unsure of himself when he got the ball. Looked to pass first when the ball was passed to him instead of driving in and getting his own shot.

My guess is that it's one of two things. The team has been learning the offense and that means moving the ball. Tyler's game had always been predicated on him shooting it and usually going to the line. The issue is, the team is not all about Tyler...and he needs to figure out how to fit into it.

My other guess is that the injury to his eye also affected his confidence just as the team was learning the new offense. It could be that he's behind and lacks some confidence.

He also hasn't been playing with the same force. Kind of reminds me of the year he had the head issue.

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 01:31 AM
29 of our remaining 44 games are at home. We haven't had homecourt in a playoff series since before I could legally drink. Now I can't wait to buy some beers at the Fieldhouse for Game 1.

crunk-juice
02-04-2012, 01:35 AM
every time i feel like we are due for a loss, we win anyway. never dreamed we would be 16-6. what a great season so far

PacersRule
02-04-2012, 01:42 AM
My guess is that it's one of two things. The team has been learning the offense and that means moving the ball. Tyler's game had always been predicated on him shooting it and usually going to the line. The issue is, the team is not all about Tyler...and he needs to figure out how to fit into it.

My other guess is that the injury to his eye also affected his confidence just as the team was learning the new offense. It could be that he's behind and lacks some confidence.

He also hasn't been playing with the same force. Kind of reminds me of the year he had the head issue.

I think it might be your first point, that the Pacers want to play more of a TEAM game. Or other players are starting to play much more physical on Tyler. I used to be really frustrated every time Hansbrough takes the ball inside without even thinking about passing to the wide open guys on the perimeter but if this is the Tyler we're going to get, I think we should all be concerned. Tyler is a huge part of the Pacers bench when he's playing well, IMO we've got one of the best benches in the NBA, but when he's playing like this 4-6 ppg, I think we're gonna have trouble with some of the elite teams in the NBA.

I also don't think at this point Hansbrough have enough weapons/moves to be a consistent scorer. I know this has been discussed many times and Tyler has proved these people wrong many times as well, but to be honest IMO around 90% of his points come from midrange jumpers and drive to the middle of the lane weird jump hooks. Those are both easy to defend IMO Tyler needs to learn some moves from West.

dohman
02-04-2012, 01:43 AM
Chris said I made good TV. Did anyone see me in my trashy homemade area 55 shirt :)

PacersRule
02-04-2012, 01:43 AM
every time i feel like we are due for a loss, we win anyway. never dreamed we would be 16-6. what a great season so far

Before this game started I thought for sure we were gonna lose. Man I just keep underestimating these Pacers!

vnzla81
02-04-2012, 01:43 AM
What a game to watch live. Its been since 04 since I have been able to watch this game in person and leave happy.

I was right behind the bench and Georges body language was amazing. He had this swagger that was like... This is nothing big, he made it look so easy and inside the offense.

Are u the area 55 guy?

vnzla81
02-04-2012, 01:46 AM
Chris said I made good TV. Did anyone see me in my trashy homemade area 55 shirt :)

Yep we saw you ;)

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 01:47 AM
Chris said I made good TV. Did anyone see me in my trashy homemade area 55 shirt :)

El Pacero was looking for you on Twitter, he said he wanted to give you his shirt. That's quite an honor.

pacer4ever
02-04-2012, 01:53 AM
I would marry that aggressive Paul George.

Just bought a PG24 ABA Jersey today while at the Super Bowl Village, and then he plays like this. Anyone want to fund me the money to buy one before every game? :laugh:

god it was crazy down there tonight. But I got to see Cooper lol.


PG24 was like PG at Fresno 2night that is why I feel in love with his game. He has the mindset of a star he left college because he felt the players on his team didnt want to win. He gets it.


ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Frank Vogel on Paul George: "He's oozing confidence. ... He's good at pretty much everything." (Comment: Where do I co-sign?)
1 hour ago

I dont think there was a better prospect at taking and making tough shots the year he came out. I was telling people that he would be a beast. I still think he will average 24/6/3/2/1 when he is in his prime. At Fresno he played like he was the best player on the court regardless of who he was playing (all the greats IMO have this trait)

Last year Paul really pissed me off even when I met him after a game I told him "go back to playing like you did a Fresno especially mentally" . Paul last year was really passive and was shooing like he forgot how to shoot. I am just glad he is proving me right last year had me doubting a bit.

Eleazar
02-04-2012, 01:53 AM
Every week this team just keeps getting better.

I don't see how anyone could think this team is not on the verge of being a contender if not one already.

BlueNGold
02-04-2012, 01:53 AM
I think it might be your first point, that the Pacers want to play more of a TEAM game. Or other players are starting to play much more physical on Tyler. I used to be really frustrated every time Hansbrough takes the ball inside without even thinking about passing to the wide open guys on the perimeter but if this is the Tyler we're going to get, I think we should all be concerned. Tyler is a huge part of the Pacers bench when he's playing well, IMO we've got one of the best benches in the NBA, but when he's playing like this 4-6 ppg, I think we're gonna have trouble with some of the elite teams in the NBA.

I also don't think at this point Hansbrough have enough weapons/moves to be a consistent scorer. I know this has been discussed many times and Tyler has proved these people wrong many times as well, but to be honest IMO around 90% of his points come from midrange jumpers and drive to the middle of the lane weird jump hooks. Those are both easy to defend IMO Tyler needs to learn some moves from West.

You might be right...but IDK. What I do think is, you are describing worst case for Tyler. I think we've already seen Tyler snap out of similar slumps and start playing well again. I suspect we see that happen again. At the same time, it is very hard to gauge how good he is and if he can ever be consistent. Very hard to figure IMO...

Gold
02-04-2012, 01:59 AM
Chris said I made good TV. Did anyone see me in my trashy homemade area 55 shirt :)

Yes. lol. Quinn dubbed you a real fan.

Hicks
02-04-2012, 02:01 AM
I wouldn't trade Paul George for Eric Gordon.

I'm glad I won't be on such an island on this topic anymore! :-p

And I like Gordon.

1984
02-04-2012, 02:03 AM
Paul George's block and three point sequence, if it's not the top play on ESPN tomorrow morning, I will eat my keyboard.

1984
02-04-2012, 02:05 AM
Holy crap, I know it's soon, but this could be the emergence of Paul George.

Bball
02-04-2012, 02:09 AM
BTW... I loved this little Quinnism...
"Make 'em play defense"
IOW... work the ball around, make them have to think and react... make them have to work... Make the game hard for them....

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 02:09 AM
Paul George's block and three point sequence, if it's not the top play on ESPN tomorrow morning, I will eat my keyboard.

That was such a huge turnabout in that game, not just a huge sequence for PG. Terry's going in for an easy layup to cut our lead to 3, gets nullified, and PG comes back and hits a quick 3, boom we're up 8. That swung the momentum that the Mavs had picked up which started with Delonte's 3 at the end of the 3rd and ended on PGs block/3. We extended the lead from there and won easily. Huge play.

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 02:11 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?

cdash
02-04-2012, 02:14 AM
Winning is so much ****ing fun. What a fantastic time to be a native Hoosier. I'm beaming with pride between this team and an incredible Super Bowl atmosphere. I would kill to be there.

Sandman21
02-04-2012, 02:22 AM
Chris said I made good TV. Did anyone see me in my trashy homemade area 55 shirt :)
Yes we did.:laugh:

abmowrey Alan Mowrey
http://lockerz.com/s/180457873 No more DIY #Area55 T's. Going to a Pacers road game? Send a SA, stamped envelope & I'll send an Area55 Tshirt

Hoop
02-04-2012, 02:24 AM
Holy crap, I know it's soon, but this could be the emergence of Paul George.
Yeh. I thought he could have games like this, but I thought he was a year or two away.

I hope he keeps the same attitude and work ethic, I believe he will.

SYDNEY MILLER AUSTRALIA31
02-04-2012, 02:26 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?

Your wrong rik smits is a legend and Roy is will hopefully become one. Defensively Roy is a lot better than smits ever was

Bball
02-04-2012, 02:41 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?

I'd take Roy this season over Smits any day. In retrospect, Smits was probably better than I gave him credit for. Offensively he was pretty good usually. Defensively... wellllll... But about the time he might've been starting to really find himself injuries set in and limited his effectiveness. But then by that point we had AD and DD and that meant Smits wasn't as important overall to the team to have on the floor. If he had it going on you could roll with him... if not... well... manage his minutes and let AD and DD allow us to be more physical.

Roy is more of a physical presence than Smits was... IMO...

cdash
02-04-2012, 02:46 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?

You know how you know this is a great question? I have tried to reply to it three different times with three different answers and couldn't settle on any of them. I honestly see a lot of parallels between the two. Not just their game, but their roles on the team. I'll give the edge to Smits right now, if only because he proved he could be the starting center on a highly successful playoff team. Roy still needs to prove it over time. But Roy at his best vs Smits at his best is a total tossup for me.

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 02:54 AM
From a skill level I like Roy, but it's not one on one. And not even the numerous high quality teams Rik anchored, but his competition. I mean we're talking Ewing, Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, etc, tons of just stellar 5s. Roy's got what, Dwight and...Bynum?

Asher99
02-04-2012, 03:09 AM
I haven't seen the game yet. What's up with Tyler?


Frank took away his aggressiveness and therefor his confidence when he attempted to make him a passer.

Wide open shots he would once take in rhythm now are passes or has hesitation in which allows defense to close the gap. Since the big work on the offense practice Tyler's numbers went from 11.67 PPG down to 5.8 PPG, FTA from 5 a game down to 2.5 and FG attempt's 9.67 to 5.4 with a potion of that lower total coming off offensive boards all the the gain .33 assists per game to .70 and a weaker bench.

Diamond Dave
02-04-2012, 03:22 AM
Frank took away his aggressiveness and therefor his confidence when he attempted to make him a passer.



False. Vogel made him a team player. Its up to Tyler to learn how to thrive in a full team game, just like Danny has.

And I'm a huge Tyler fan that loves his style of play.

Asher99
02-04-2012, 03:23 AM
PG and West saved the day big time going 20-of-30 from the field with 7 from downtown along with a 3-for-3 day at the stripe. The rest of the team shot 17-of-57 or 29.8% so if those two both had good games rather than great games this could been a loss.

Asher99
02-04-2012, 03:27 AM
False. Vogel made him a team player. Its up to Tyler to learn how to thrive in a full team game, just like Danny has.

And I'm a huge Tyler fan that loves his style of play.

When your job is to be the bench scorer you only need to pass when you don't have a shot or someone is wide open, but he's passing up shots to dish out a bad pass elsewhere. If he was the starting PF making him pass more would be a good idea but taking away his aggression was stupid when he's in for 18-22 a game. Also Danny is taking more shots than he did all last year since the fix the offense practice despite having more weapons around him.

Diamond Dave
02-04-2012, 03:43 AM
When your job is to be the bench scorer you only need to pass when you don't have a shot or someone is wide open, but he's passing up shots to dish out a bad pass elsewhere. If he was the starting PF making him pass more would be a good idea but taking away his aggression was stupid when he's in for 18-22 a game. Also Danny is taking more shots than he did all last year since the fix the offense practice despite having more weapons around him.

Perhaps if he was coming anywhere close on his jumpers he'd be more apt to shoot them. Meanwhile being a bad passer is not an excuse to shoot more. This same logic applies to AJ Price.

crunk-juice
02-04-2012, 03:56 AM
random question.. who's the play by play guy on 93.1 with Croshere? i had to listen to the 2nd quarter on the radio coming back from downtown. he has to be the most boring, lifeless announcer ever. i assumed he was the Mavs announcer until i heard "Pacers Radio"

31andonly
02-04-2012, 03:57 AM
This. And you're not alone, my friend. Me, Johanvil, that guy from Portugal, that guy from Germany, a guy from the Netherlands. There are a lot of international Pacer fans and this team really deserves it :)

Proudly spending the nights supporting the Pacers since 1999. Only Mavs and Heat fans here in Germany...they all can kiss my a**.

I love this team, always have and always will.

Best regards from Germany.

rel
02-04-2012, 04:01 AM
best part of that block was Terry's face afterward...
http://i.imgur.com/uRcho.png
Jet's rockin' his "WTF just happened to me!?" look

CableKC
02-04-2012, 04:03 AM
By the way, another great, underrated game for Darren Collison. I feel extremely comfortable with him at the point.
I have to agree here......every shot that I was watching him take....I said to myself "it's in" and he ends up sinking his mid-range jumpshot. He's been doing very well lately with his jumpshot...his shot selection has been really good as of late....he's playing within his game on the offensive end and he's hitting his shots.

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 04:07 AM
random question.. who's the play by play guy on 93.1 with Croshere? i had to listen to the 2nd quarter on the radio coming back from downtown. he has to be the most boring, lifeless announcer ever. i assumed he was the Mavs announcer until i heard "Pacers Radio"

Oh wow, are you serious? That's Mark Boyle, our long time radio play-by-play guy. Boring and lifeless he is not...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/p1VIawCO7O4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9HFVmxVuKyE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

crunk-juice
02-04-2012, 04:10 AM
Oh wow, are you serious? That's Mark Boyle, our long time radio play-by-play guy. Boring and lifeless he is not...


i had never listened to a pacers game on the radio before tonight, so thats all i have to go by.

"and George makes a three."
"ball is stolen, Granger drives in and scores"

stuff like that, all completely monotone.

Asher99
02-04-2012, 04:12 AM
Perhaps if he was coming anywhere close on his jumpers he'd be more apt to shoot them. Meanwhile being a bad passer is not an excuse to shoot more. This same logic applies to AJ Price.

Being a scorer is the reason to shoot, if we wanted a passer we should have took Lawson or kept Josh. Also when on the outside passing you can't draw fouls getting other players on the bench and feasting on the bonus or getting in faster. We don't have Hill and Tyler got 1 shot in 19:22 or the same as Lou who played 2:25. We got by with West and PG going off like they did tonight but that's not going to be the case every night and with no Hill for a while we need to get Tyler scoring off the bench.

I may be in the minority here but that extra .37 APG and bad passes aren't worth the loss in scoring and fouls drawn as well as the getting him in the flow of the game on both ends along with those shots not taken going to people like Lou, AJ or a Dahntay Jones circus shot in the lane.

CableKC
02-04-2012, 04:15 AM
Yes we did.:laugh:

abmowrey Alan Mowrey
http://lockerz.com/s/180457873 No more DIY #Area55 T's. Going to a Pacers road game? Send a SA, stamped envelope & I'll send an Area55 Tshirt
Dude....if I knew about this a month ago...I would have asked for one when I went to the Pacers / Warriors game :banghead:

31andonly
02-04-2012, 04:17 AM
By the way, D.Jones has been really good coming off the bench these past couple of weeks.

CableKC
02-04-2012, 04:19 AM
best part of that block was Terry's face afterward...
http://i.imgur.com/uRcho.png
Jet's rockin' his "WTF just happened to me!?" look
I saw that look on the Jet's face....he was like...WTF happened there? :confused:

beast23
02-04-2012, 04:19 AM
You know how you know this is a great question? I have tried to reply to it three different times with three different answers and couldn't settle on any of them. I honestly see a lot of parallels between the two. Not just their game, but their roles on the team. I'll give the edge to Smits right now, if only because he proved he could be the starting center on a highly successful playoff team. Roy still needs to prove it over time. But Roy at his best vs Smits at his best is a total tossup for me.

Prior to his plantars fasciatis, Smits was as good a low post scorer as any in the league. Once his foot problems set in, he could still score in the post, but began to grow his game to include mid-range and even perimeter scoring. He was good at both. Smits was never a good defender and had the habit of attempting to block the shots of even smaller players at the hand rather than using his 7-4 size to block shots a foot or two feet from the hand. Even though he had poor defensive habits, he took up a hell of a lot of room near the basket.

I see some similarities in Hibbert, but he is nowhere near the low post scorer that Smits was... yet. He is probably developing a mid-range game earlier in his career than Smits did. Roy is a better rebounder and is very much ahead of what Smits was defensively. However, Smits was not needed for rebounding nearly as much because we had Dale, AD, McKey, etc.

Smits was the #2 scorer on his teams, behind Reggie. He was always needed for scoring. I doubt Hibbert will feel the pressure to be the #2 scorer. We have Danny and George is emerging. The scoring on our present team will be much more balanced than any of the Reggie-Rik teams.

Looking back, I'm now very pleased with what Smits accomplished. I am certain I will say the same once Hibbert's career is over. The two function slightly different in their respective teams/eras, but both fit very well and will have established their places in Pacer history.

CableKC
02-04-2012, 04:22 AM
I don't know if Lance got any burn this game...and didn't really notice Amundson out there....but is it me...or did we go with a 8 man rotation?

I think that we can get away with it against a Team like the Mavs with a Center that can't score, Nowitzki, Terry, Roddy and Delonte West where we could switch off Paul George on the opposing Team's PG and letting DC guard the smaller SG ( Roddy / Terry / Delonte ) ...but I don't think that we can go without a bigger Frontcourt on a regular basis.

rel
02-04-2012, 04:32 AM
found this interview online
Nothing too interesting but thought i'd share anyways
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/irkzm2ayHzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

...and i have no idea what D210 is (D for dallas i guess). Also, the interviewer seems super nervous & is pretty awkward lol

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 04:35 AM
i had never listened to a pacers game on the radio before tonight, so thats all i have to go by.

"and George makes a three."
"ball is stolen, Granger drives in and scores"

stuff like that, all completely monotone.

Here's the thing about Boyle, he's a big Pacers fan but he really believes in trying to be impartial in calling the games. I had a little back and forth with him on Facebook a year or 2 ago about this, I was comparing his work to Bob Lamey, who is the play by play guy for the Colts, who easily loses his **** in any game, any time. He really just believes it's his job to call the game so that the listener can best follow it. The broadcast seems really incomplete on the road this year without Slick Leonard, who has been his sidekick for a long time until he had health problems last season and has only been doing home games this year. His "Boom Baby!" after 3 pointers was really a staple of the radio broadcast. But if you put Mark in a big game, big play situation he can make some really, really great calls, like the ones I posted in my last post. It will be a sad say when Mark decides to move on.

ndcoltsnpacers
02-04-2012, 04:38 AM
found this interview online
Nothing too interesting but thought i'd share anyways
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/irkzm2ayHzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

...and i have no idea what D210 is (D for dallas i guess). Also, the interviewer seems super nervous & is pretty awkward lol

I would probably be pretty nervous too if I were her interviewing PG after the game he had.

Heisenberg
02-04-2012, 04:40 AM
Also, the interviewer seems super nervous & is pretty awkward lolKid's got the swagger, besides, look at that hairline. LL Cool PG. Seriously, PG could OWN this city eventually. Reggie owned it because he could play ball, PG could own it because he can play ball AND be marketable. I don't want to overstate it, but that's huge in today's NBA.

Peck
02-04-2012, 04:40 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?

This is tough because I want to just jump out right now and say that I think Roy is significantly better than Rik was.

However then I have to stop and think about the level of competition that Rik had to play against vs. what Roy does.

I'll just say this, I think Roy loves the game more and therfor ultimately will be the better player over time. That is not a slam at Rik but listeing to Rik talk after he left the game he stated that he never grew up loving the game and didn't really start working on it till college and after he left the game he attend on occasion but he has other interst. I think this is Roy's life.

I will be the first to admit though that I did not give Rik nearly enough credit while he was playing. In going back and watching him play now and comparing it to how soft todays NBA is I have to believe if Rik played today he would be almost an enforcer. He just happened to play in a time when even the small forwards in N.Y. (Mason) were stronger than most players in the NBA today.

I was there the night Rik scored 40 points vs. the Clippers and that was special.

Ok I'm rambling.

Right now Roy is the better defender and rebounder, Rik was the better shooter.

But if I had to pick one over the other I'll go with Roy everyday.

Peck
02-04-2012, 04:45 AM
found this interview online
Nothing too interesting but thought i'd share anyways
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/irkzm2ayHzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

...and i have no idea what D210 is (D for dallas i guess). Also, the interviewer seems super nervous & is pretty awkward lol

What did he say the main reason this team is so good?

I'll repeat it for him and this should sound familiar because I have been beating this drum in every single thread where someone wants to pretend that our team should be ran like 2K12.

He said Team Chemistry.

We are a freaght train rolling, you do NOT want to mess that up.

yoadknux
02-04-2012, 05:27 AM
George's top of the key 3 totally reminded me of Danny. You can tell they worked together all summer :cool:

wintermute
02-04-2012, 05:44 AM
The tripple double is often talked about as being a huge night, but even rarer is the 4 5's night. (Over 5 in 4 of points, rebounds, assists, steals or blocks..Candace Parker is the only player I've ever seen get a 5 for 5 night.) And for PG to do it so dominantly..

Pacers trivia: Jamaal Tinsley posted a 5x5 during his rookie year. 12 pts 9 reb 15 ast 6 stl 5 blk. Heck, he had a 6x5 if you count fouls ;)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200111160IND.html

presto123
02-04-2012, 06:01 AM
This is tough because I want to just jump out right now and say that I think Roy is significantly better than Rik was.

However then I have to stop and think about the level of competition that Rik had to play against vs. what Roy does.

I'll just say this, I think Roy loves the game more and therfor ultimately will be the better player over time. That is not a slam at Rik but listeing to Rik talk after he left the game he stated that he never grew up loving the game and didn't really start working on it till college and after he left the game he attend on occasion but he has other interst. I think this is Roy's life.

I will be the first to admit though that I did not give Rik nearly enough credit while he was playing. In going back and watching him play now and comparing it to how soft todays NBA is I have to believe if Rik played today he would be almost an enforcer. He just happened to play in a time when even the small forwards in N.Y. (Mason) were stronger than most players in the NBA today.

I was there the night Rik scored 40 points vs. the Clippers and that was special.

Ok I'm rambling.

Right now Roy is the better defender and rebounder, Rik was the better shooter.

But if I had to pick one over the other I'll go with Roy everyday.

Disagree. Roy is progressing nicely but he's not at Smits level yet.

TheDon
02-04-2012, 08:36 AM
I really think if we can beat the Magic tonight we have a little 2 day break at home and then play the Jazz who will be on their second game of a back to back, and then the Hawks who are pretty much without a center after Collins went down Roy should have a monster game that game. Then the next two games are a set of back to backs at memphis which can't be taken lightly and then the next night at home against the nuggets who are pretty dang good themselves.

PacerPenguins
02-04-2012, 09:15 AM
i mean both teams played last night but the magic have to fly to cindy then take a 2 hour flight to INdy.... i would be pissed if i were the magic...

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 09:19 AM
Candace Parker is the only player I've ever seen get a 5 for 5 night.

Tinsley had one. One of only six NBA players to ever do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_(basketball)#Five-by-five

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 09:28 AM
This. And you're not alone, my friend. Me, Johanvil, that guy from Portugal, that guy from Germany, a guy from the Netherlands. There are a lot of international Pacer fans and this team really deserves it :)

Where you from, Nuntius?

Will Galen
02-04-2012, 09:30 AM
It looks like the "light" has come on for the kid. Games like this show what he can truly be. Other times he fades but I charge that to the fact that he's the young gun. He's still earning his stripes. No worries at all.

This team is a team we can be proud of. And the Pacers are starting to gain some real recognition. We keep playing like this and its gonna be mighty difficult for quality free agents just dismiss Indy.

We keep playing like this we won't need free agents!

PacerPenguins
02-04-2012, 09:34 AM
found this interview online
Nothing too interesting but thought i'd share anyways
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/irkzm2ayHzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

...and i have no idea what D210 is (D for dallas i guess). Also, the interviewer seems super nervous & is pretty awkward lol

she wants paul

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 09:40 AM
For some of you "old timers," I was in my mid teens when Smits was at his best, am I wrong in saying Roy's better right now than Rik ever was?
I would say Roy is almost as good offensively as Rik right now and will be better before it's over with.

But Rik was a defensive liability. This year, Roy has become nearly as good a defender as Antonio Davis was, who had to play at the end of games instead of Rik. Roy may soon become as good or better than AD as well.

That's a two for one, folks.

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 09:43 AM
From a skill level I like Roy, but it's not one on one.

Rik played a little too far out near the perimeter for me. Frustrating to watch a 7'4" guy do that. Roy plays down in the post, and that's very satisfying.

Sparhawk
02-04-2012, 09:59 AM
I just want to know one thing.

Did the Mavs say they hate the Pacers and will play more physical next time, exacting revenge?

:rolleyes:

Smits Happens
02-04-2012, 10:08 AM
i mean both teams played last night but the magic have to fly to cindy then take a 2 hour flight to INdy.... i would be pissed if i were the magic...

Two-hour bus ride, not flight. I'd be kind of pissed, too, but what can you do when the NBA gives you a road game the night before the Super Bowl in the host city.

Cubs231721
02-04-2012, 10:14 AM
Being a scorer is the reason to shoot, if we wanted a passer we should have took Lawson or kept Josh. Also when on the outside passing you can't draw fouls getting other players on the bench and feasting on the bonus or getting in faster. We don't have Hill and Tyler got 1 shot in 19:22 or the same as Lou who played 2:25. We got by with West and PG going off like they did tonight but that's not going to be the case every night and with no Hill for a while we need to get Tyler scoring off the bench.

I may be in the minority here but that extra .37 APG and bad passes aren't worth the loss in scoring and fouls drawn as well as the getting him in the flow of the game on both ends along with those shots not taken going to people like Lou, AJ or a Dahntay Jones circus shot in the lane.

I don't think you are in the minority that would prefer the Tyler the Pacers had before to the one they have now. That doesn't mean that what the Pacers did by trying to teach him to pass was the wrong decision though. The Tyler of before was a useful but deeply flawed player. Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to correct some of those flaws in your game, and that's what Tyler is doing right now. Hopefully as he continues to pass he'll learn from experience when is a good time to pass and when is a good time to shoot. If he doesn't, they very likely will be able to have him revert back to what he was before. If he does learn though, he becomes a far more useful player.

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 10:18 AM
I saw that look on the Jet's face....he was like...WTF happened there? :confused:
They could have called a body foul.

But I think refs give the benefit of the doubt to the player making a highlight play.

McKeyFan
02-04-2012, 10:22 AM
Kid's got the swagger, besides, look at that hairline. LL Cool PG. Seriously, PG could OWN this city eventually. Reggie owned it because he could play ball, PG could own it because he can play ball AND be marketable. I don't want to overstate it, but that's huge in today's NBA.

Let me mention this here because I don't see it said much.

Paul George has great court vision. In my opinion, he is only a ball-handling upgrade from becoming Lebron-esque.

Asher99
02-04-2012, 10:27 AM
I don't think you are in the minority that would prefer the Tyler the Pacers had before to the one they have now. That doesn't mean that what the Pacers did by trying to teach him to pass was the wrong decision though. The Tyler of before was a useful but deeply flawed player. Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to correct some of those flaws in your game, and that's what Tyler is doing right now. Hopefully as he continues to pass he'll learn from experience when is a good time to pass and when is a good time to shoot. If he doesn't, they very likely will be able to have him revert back to what he was before. If he does learn though, he becomes a far more useful player.

If he was going to be asked to be a starter going forward implanting the pass first seed would been fine but when his role was to score off the bench and push for a 6th man award its killed his game. He's in for 18-22 a game when he's out there it was to attack revere bigs not shoot long jumpers and hand off to others to do the same.

He's taking a full shot lower this year than he did last year despite playing more time, and that's even with getting big shot totals to start the year. I can't see how even the Tyler haters could think how he;s being uses is good for him or the Pacers. If our starting 5 has any hiccups as of late we start losing quite a few games as screwed as our bench is right now.

BlueNGold
02-04-2012, 10:34 AM
Good lord. Compare Paul's demeanor to DeMarcus Cousins. We are so incredibly fortunate.

Asher99
02-04-2012, 10:44 AM
If Roy has a bad game PG's shooting percentage from 3 could be better than our best overall FG percentage.

righteouscool
02-04-2012, 10:57 AM
Let me mention this here because I don't see it said much.

Paul George has great court vision. In my opinion, he is only a ball-handling upgrade from becoming Lebron-esque.

I've been saying George's passing is underrated for ages. He makes some awesome passes he just doesn't have the ball in his hands a lot so no one notices.

CoolHand
02-04-2012, 11:31 AM
Pacers trivia: Jamaal Tinsley posted a 5x5 during his rookie year. 12 pts 9 reb 15 ast 6 stl 5 blk. Heck, he had a 6x5 if you count fouls ;)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200111160IND.html

I didn't realize that, but I'm not shocked. He could have been a great one if it wasn't for his injuries and work ethic....

Scot Pollard
02-04-2012, 12:30 PM
I have a feeling after the Super Bowl it's gonna start getting more crowded in BLF.

:thankyou:


HEY LISTEN ME INDIANA. I m waking up in the middle of the ****ing night to watch this team from thousands miles away, you better get your *** of from your couches and support this team. Because they deserve.

:thankyou:

Yep. No excuse whatsoever to EVER see an empty BLF.

It will be a packed BLF once the SB is over with because I have never seen a top team who had poor attendance EVER. Especially it wouldn't be here in the Indiana for Pacers. No way Jose!

Tonight is a great beginning to terrific crowds!

But gulp...........Tuesday night against Utah?

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/05004716A2437BDE?artistid=805952&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=7

Somebody on the team really needs to speak up about this because EVERY night should be a near sellout.

This is a team in contention. This is Indy's team! This is Indiana's pro basketball team for crying outloud!

These guys DESERVE a home crowd.

These people don't have anything better to do and I am 99% certain that once the SB is over, BLF will be the place to be again. Just like the early 2000's.

The spotlight will be ours.

CableKC
02-04-2012, 01:55 PM
i mean both teams played last night but the magic have to fly to cindy then take a 2 hour flight to INdy.... i would be pissed if i were the magic...
I could be wrong....but in the Post Game interview on NBATV, I thought that Dwight said that the Magic have to go through Cincy VIA BUS ( not plane ) to get to Indy. Hopefully it was a really bumpy ride driving into Indy.

One thing to note....I recall in one of the Post-Game threads after a loss where the Pacers were returning from the West Coast trip...someone ( was it Anthem? ) said that it is not uncommon for a Team to lose that game. I am not going to be surprised if the Pacers lose tonight....the Magic have the "revenge" factor and we flying back East in a B2B game. If the Pacers lose tonight... Regardless of how they do, I'm going to give them a pass tonight.

ilive4sports
02-04-2012, 02:32 PM
she wants paul

NO HES MINE!

dal9
02-04-2012, 02:49 PM
Tinsley had one. One of only six NBA players to ever do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_(basketball)#Five-by-five

and Tins was the shortest one by like 6 inches...

Pacersalltheway10
02-04-2012, 02:54 PM
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Turns out that suit is still lucky Danny Granger. If we got top 3, we could have ended up with Turner or Cousins or Johnson.

Peck
02-04-2012, 03:06 PM
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Turns out that suit is still lucky Danny Granger. If we got top 3, we could have ended up with Turner or Cousins or Johnson.

Way to hide your dissapointment there Danny.

Also I know I'm not the only one who thinks we came out ok in that draft.

In fact if you compare Wall & George right now in 6 less min. a game the only real stat that John is killing Paul on is assists but he has the ball in his hands 70% of the time so he should be passing out assist.

I don't know if Paul will be better in the longrun or not but I know that when he is aggressive there are few young players that I would take over him and John Wall isn't one of them.

PacersHomer
02-04-2012, 03:43 PM
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Turns out that suit is still lucky Danny Granger. If we got top 3, we could have ended up with Turner or Cousins or Johnson.

It'll be a while before we are back in the lottery. That's a great feeling.

PaceBalls
02-04-2012, 03:49 PM
There was a thread before the season where we were talking about the draft and I had PG at 5 in a redo.

I think now it wouldn't have been a bad pick for Paul at #1 even. You could definitely make that argument, especially when you add up the intangibles like his demeanor, attitude and professionalism. Greg Monroe and John Wall are right there too, possibly Favors, but it's more of a tossup. Demarcus Cousins is a beast, but so was Ron Ron... I would have him behind those guys now.

At any rate, we totally lucked out with that pick. Larry Bird is awesome.