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Shade
02-10-2004, 12:42 AM
Great trade for Portland. :o

Southside_Pacer
02-10-2004, 12:44 AM
I second what Shade says.

Works out well for all sides from what I can see.

Roaming Gnome
02-10-2004, 12:47 AM
Wow...All that for Rasheed Wallace?

Roaming Gnome
02-10-2004, 12:53 AM
Looks like Atlanta can go into that weak South Division next year with some F.A.'s and a little hope. Miami and Atlanta fighting for the South title and the 8th playoff seed in the east.

dipperdunk
02-10-2004, 12:56 AM
It was a great trade for Portland. Its just my opinion but these types of trades are bad for the NBA. The NFL used to veto these types of trades that were done to solely save money. Its a bad trade for Hawks fans because they lose pretty much their only 2 players worth watching and the cap space is meaningless because they aren't going to be able to attract good free agents. So this trade makes the East even weaker and the West stronger. But heres another bad part of this trade; its very possible that Rasheed tells Atlanta that he isn't moving there or playing for them and they negotiate a buy out for the rest of this season and put him on waivers like the Nets did with Deke. Then he signs with a team in contention for peanuts for the rest of this season again affecting the competitive balance of the league, I mean what happens if they buy him out and he decides he wants to sign for the rest of this season with NJ or Detroit? Its just bad for the league IMO.

diego
02-10-2004, 01:01 AM
Tomorrow's Portland headlines:

Shareef, Ratliff, and Dickau arrested for possession of marijuana when found celebrating their arrival to Portland.

zxc
02-10-2004, 01:02 AM
I mean what happens if they buy him out and he decides he wants to sign for the rest of this season with NJ or Detroit?

That would suck.. :(

Kind of doubt Sheed demands a buyout or anything though. Don't think he is really all about winning. Sure he will use his time in Atlanta to work his way into a better contract next year from someone else.

Roaming Gnome
02-10-2004, 01:11 AM
:confused: What is the ownership situation in Atlanta anyway?

:confused: Is that still up in the air?

:confused: Would the right ownership and a new comitment change things in the ATL?

I know that Terry Stots was a quick fix then the ownership change kind of kept Stots around, but I think if you get a coach in there that is somewhat attractive to Free Agents. You never know. Atlanta is not a cold weather small market. The right changes could bring change in Atlanta.

Hoop
02-10-2004, 01:13 AM
Completely stupid for Atlanta, IMO. I would rather have Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Theo Ratliff than that nut case Rasheed Wallace. The cap relief will mean nothing for Atlanta, who the hell will want to go there.

Cactus Jax
02-10-2004, 01:18 AM
Completely stupid for Atlanta, IMO. I would rather have Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Theo Ratliff than that nut case Rasheed Wallace. The cap relief will mean nothing for Atlanta, who the hell will want to go there.

They might not get THE best players to go there, but they'll definently get very solid players to go there, ala Denver. They have tons of cap-space, something 25 or so teams don't have; I could see a guy like Richardson going there, but I think you underrate the power of money.

kerosene
02-10-2004, 01:18 AM
If 'sheed goes on waivers then you'll see Miami get to him before Dallas, NJ, or Detroit could. NY would too.

Cactus Jax
02-10-2004, 01:20 AM
If 'sheed goes on waivers then you'll see Miami get to him before Dallas, NJ, or Detroit could. NY would too.

Yeah, the crappier team priority does come into effect. :dance: :unimpressed:

Cactus Jax
02-10-2004, 01:23 AM
When I first heard the Portland trades Rasheed Wallace part of the trade... my mind was dreaming...to Indiana for Scot Pollard and Austin Croshere. :devil: :devil: :devil: :D :rolleyes:

Roaming Gnome
02-10-2004, 01:26 AM
Steve Francis might be next to be traded with the way he just ended the game against the Spurs. That had to be the most selfish play that I ever seen on a basketball court. you should have seen the look on Van Gundy's face at the end of the game...Wow.

Cactus Jax
02-10-2004, 01:27 AM
Well Kstat's dream of Wallace just crashed and burned :devil:. Looking at what Atlanta gave up, they would've needed to trade at least Billups or Hamilton, plus the expiring deals Detroit had. Glad it didn't happen in a way.

Cactus Jax
02-10-2004, 01:33 AM
I have a feeling Rahim is going to be traded again, either in the couple days they have to re-trade him, or during the summer. There's NO way he or Randolph is playing SF, but I could see a Rahim for Van Horn type of deal which would be a slam dunk for NY. :unimpressed: I'm not fully judging this deal till he does get traded from Portland though.

Anthem
02-10-2004, 01:38 AM
Wow. That's amazing. Reef is as big a talent as Sheed, and they got Theo for Person?

I assume they'll play Reefer at the 3... that's very interesting.

So you've got:

Theo / Davis
Randolph / Reef
Reefer / Miles
Anderson / Woods
MightyMouse / ?

That's still a flawed team. Anderson and Pollard for Croshere would work, although the way Pollard has been playing makes it less appealing.

You think we have too many forwards? Portland has 4 starting-quality power forwards: Davis, Ratliff, Shareef, and Zach Randolph.

Crazy.

zxc
02-10-2004, 01:38 AM
I have a feeling Rahim is going to be traded again, either in the couple days they have to re-trade him, or during the summer. There's NO way he or Randolph is playing SF, but I could see a Rahim for Van Horn type of deal which would be a slam dunk for NY. :unimpressed: I'm not fully judging this deal till he does get traded from Portland though.

Rahim has played SF before, not sure why he couldn't now.

kerosene
02-10-2004, 01:50 AM
Rahim will play SF. Davis isn't a starting quality PF in the West anymore.

Ratliff, Randolph, Reef. That's a big, good rebounding front line. Is there enough room inside for all 3 though?

stew
02-10-2004, 02:46 AM
maybe now, we can trade for terry...

we do have expiring contracts..

will kenny anderson, brewer, primo work salary wise?

:D

Suaveness
02-10-2004, 03:07 AM
maybe now, we can trade for terry...

we do have expiring contracts..

will kenny anderson, brewer, primo work salary wise?

:D

oooo....

indygeezer
02-10-2004, 07:22 AM
That trade makes DD extraneous. O000hh Peeeeck!

Atlanta now has zero players it needs to protect for the expansion draft (unless they wanna keep J Terry) but Portland has a boatload of players they could jetison for cap relief by bribing the Bobs.

Peck
02-10-2004, 07:50 AM
Oh trust me Geezer, the first thing that I thought of was that Dale would now be able to be had a cheaper price. :dance:

But about the trade itself.

I'm with dipperdunk on this one. This only sets Atlanta back another 5 years on top of however long they were going to be down anyway.

The only advantage I can see from this at all is that they might be able to make a trade & absorb a bloated contract, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of being under the cap?

One thing though, I thought Wallace was only willing to go to a team that he was willing to sign him long term. If that is the case then the trade might be a little better, but not by much.

DisplacedKnick
02-10-2004, 09:14 AM
GREAT trade! WONDERFUL trade! FABULOUS trade!

For the Knicks - no Rasheed in NY!

That's almost as big a weight off my chest as when Boston picked up Raef (not quite, but almost). :D

Slick Pinkham
02-10-2004, 09:46 AM
Highway robbery by Portland.

I thought that with Rashweed's evil ways they would get less than equal value. Instead they got more.

Atlanta will be worse than the expansion Bobcats next year, assuming no Kobe signing.

Portland's front line looks pretty damn impressive- Ratliff, Randolph, Abdur-Rahim backed up by Davis and Miles.

Ragnar
02-10-2004, 09:59 AM
Steve Francis might be next to be traded with the way he just ended the game against the Spurs. That had to be the most selfish play that I ever seen on a basketball court. you should have seen the look on Van Gundy's face at the end of the game...Wow.

I saw that first I thought how happy I am he is not our pg and that we have a real pg. Second I thought so long and thanks for the fish because he is outa there.

Anthem
02-10-2004, 10:51 AM
maybe now, we can trade for terry...

will kenny anderson, brewer, primo work salary wise?

With the current guards we have, I'd rather keep Primo.

Seriously.

About Portland, I really think another trade is in the works. It just don't make sense otherwise. We could pull a Pollard/Freddy for Dale in a heartbeat, but it's a bad trade for us. Cro/Freddy I'm not even wild about.

Now, Cro/Anderson/Pick for Davis would make me quite happy, and it would clear out the rotation some.

Arcadian
02-10-2004, 11:11 AM
I, too, agree with dipperdunk. The NBA shouldn't let this trade go through. Would the Hawks make this trade if the weren't going through an ownership transition? I am not sure that it would.

What free agent signing could they make to justify this trade? Can thier attendance get any worse becasue the fans shouldn't have to pay to see that roster. This has to be one of the worst moves of our newly begun century.

Will Galen
02-10-2004, 05:51 PM
I, too, agree with dipperdunk. The NBA shouldn't let this trade go through. Would the Hawks make this trade if the weren't going through an ownership transition? I am not sure that it would.

What free agent signing could they make to justify this trade? Can thier attendance get any worse becasue the fans shouldn't have to pay to see that roster. This has to be one of the worst moves of our newly begun century.

It's no worse than the NBA leting the Lakers pick up All Stars for chump change.

As for us getting Dale, it won't happen unless Portland would be willing to take Croshere and Anderson. That trade works but it adds 27 million to Portlands salary cap and they are wanting to lower their spending.

We would have to entice them with young players and I'm not willing to do that, even for Dale.

The reason Portland traded us JO to start with is Dale was an All Star and they thought he along with Kemp would get them over the top in the West. That didn't work and look at them now.

If we traded them young players we would be doing what they did, hoping for a quick fix to get us over the top. No thank you, I'll dance with the girl I brought to the prom!