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dal9
12-15-2011, 07:50 PM
I think most would agree that we need a b/u 5...if none of the TC invites cuts it, here is what is available. Sort of an underwhelming list, but probably many of these players are cheap and satisfactory as 3rd stringers...



Ajinca, Alexis C 23 3yrs UFA TOR --- --- ---
Armstrong, Hilton C 26 5yrs UFA ATL --- --- ---
Collins, Jason C 32 10yrs UFA ATL --- --- ---
Dalembert, Sam C 30 10yrs UFA SAC --- --- ---
Dampier, Erick C 35 15yrs UFA MIA --- --- ---
Fesenko, Kyrylo C 24 4yrs UFA UTA --- --- ---
Gadzuric, Dan C 33 9yrs UFA NJN --- --- ---
Haddadi, Hamed C 26 3yrs RFA MEM --- --- ---
Hollins, Ryan C 26 5yrs UFA* CLE --- --- ---
Ilgauskas, Z C 36 15yrs UFA* MIA --- --- ---
Krstic, Nenad C 27 7yrs UFA BOS --- ---
Mbenga, D.J. C 30 7yrs UFA NOH --- --- ---
N'Diaye, Hamady C 24 1yrs RFA WAS --- --- ---
O'Neal, Shaquille C 39 19yrs UFA* BOS --- ---
Przybilla, Joel C 31 11yrs UFA CHA --- --- ---
Ratliff, Theo C 38 16yrs UFA LAL --- --- ---
Thomas, Etan C 33 9yrs UFA ATL --- --- ---
Elson, Francisco F-C 35 8yrs UFA UTA --- --- ---
Ely, Melvin F-C 33 8yrs UFA DEN --- --- ---
Murphy, Troy F-C 31 10yrs UFA BOS --- --- ---
Smith, Jason F-C 25 3yrs RFA NOH --- --- ---
Smith, Joe F-C 35 16yrs UFA LAL --- --- ---

EvanMassey
12-15-2011, 07:53 PM
Would love to see Dalembert brought in to play behind Hibbert. When you need a better defensive big, you can plug him into the game. I think he'd be a great fit to be honest. As for Ryan Hollins, I'd like that as well.

Smits Happens
12-15-2011, 07:54 PM
Hmmmm, that O'Neal fella sounds intriguing.

dal9
12-15-2011, 07:58 PM
^yeah, i think some of these cats might be retired...
Z, Shaq, Prysbilla, Ratliff? Smith?

Deadshot
12-15-2011, 07:59 PM
Couple guys you can cross off already, seeing as Big Z and Shaq retired and the Bobcats signed Ely.

PacersHomer
12-15-2011, 08:00 PM
Is Thabeet still available?

spreedom
12-15-2011, 08:01 PM
Of the guys on that list that we could get for the minimum (which I would like to think is just about all of them) I would probably lean towards Jason Collins.

dal9
12-15-2011, 08:06 PM
Is Thabeet still available?

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he got amnestied, so teams have to bid on him, with the highest bid getting him; if no one bids, he is a FA.

sam kaiserblade
12-15-2011, 08:08 PM
Is Aaron Gray still available? I really like his game. Thank god Pacers didnt sign Nene.

PR07
12-15-2011, 08:27 PM
Dalembert's not coming here to be our third string center. All we need is a warm durable body who can defend competently and rebound.

ChristianDudley
12-15-2011, 08:30 PM
Jason Smith might be a pretty decent option, and he'd come cheap, too. I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on him.

dal9
12-15-2011, 08:31 PM
^^I think Gray got a decent size contract, forget with who

^5 Is Jason Collins the better twin? One of them is decent, but the other one is really quite bad.

PR07
12-15-2011, 08:33 PM
^^I think Gray got a decent size contract, forget with who

^5 Is Jason Collins the better twin? One of them is decent, but the other one is really quite bad.

Jason Collins re-signed with the Hawks a few days ago, but yes, he's the better one that's actually a respectable defender.

Brad8888
12-15-2011, 08:34 PM
The Pacers should hold walk-on tryouts. Surely somebody out there would be capable of playing.

Or, maybe the Lakers would be willing to trade Josh for a combination of Rush / Pendergraph / and a 1st round pick? Kobe could use yet another Pacer to take pressure off of him by spacing the court.

diamonddave00
12-15-2011, 08:35 PM
Collins re-signed with the Hawks, Krstic is in Europe.

BlueNGold
12-15-2011, 08:40 PM
I see no one in that list that's interesting. Dampier at least looks like a C. Maybe he could clog the lane for a 5 or 10 mpg. That's all we really want.

diamonddave00
12-15-2011, 08:44 PM
Dampier like Redd would be a max 1 year 1-2 mil contract.

Pacer Fan
12-15-2011, 08:46 PM
I believe Arron Gray signed with Raptors.

Sparhawk
12-15-2011, 08:55 PM
Dalembert. But I figure he's got to want more minutes than what he'd get here.

Pacer Fan
12-15-2011, 09:03 PM
Dalembert. But I figure he's got to want more minutes than what he'd get here.

Sam averaged 24 minutes last year. Roy averaged 27 minutes last year.
I think it would work great and Foster can play where needed due to foul, injury, illness situations. Sam would dominate 2nd units. Would be a Great advantage for the Pacers.

jeffg-body
12-15-2011, 09:24 PM
If we are going for a small minute/patch in when foul trouble I like Theo Ratliff, Dampier or Joe Smith.

DocHolliday
12-15-2011, 09:26 PM
There are some fossils on that list...sheesh. There's gotta be some hungry D-Leaguer that would play like a bull in a china shop for a few minutes next to Tyler.

MillerTime
12-15-2011, 09:34 PM
Let's bid on Thabeet (as long as its reasonable)

imawhat
12-15-2011, 09:36 PM
Thabeet isn't amnestied.

spreedom
12-15-2011, 09:42 PM
If not Collins, I'd prefer Ratliff. He is still a shotblocker when he gets the minutes.

Scot Pollard
12-15-2011, 09:44 PM
I would love to trade Brandon Rush for Ryan Hollins.

Banta
12-15-2011, 09:47 PM
Thabeet isn't amnestied.


In addition to that, he sucks b@lls as a basketball player.

Scot Pollard
12-15-2011, 09:48 PM
If not Collins, I'd prefer Ratliff. He is still a shotblocker when he gets the minutes.

I like Theo Ratliff too, but I think he's done.

Pacer Fan
12-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Maybe someone will get put on amnesty. Maybe Famous will turn out to be a good rebounder at the next level.

Pacemaker
12-15-2011, 10:56 PM
Dalembert is a defensive presence !

Anthem
12-15-2011, 10:56 PM
Fesenko? Dampier? Offer either of them 2mil/2years and see what you get.

IU_sears
12-15-2011, 11:22 PM
B Rush for Jason Thompson... DO IT!!!!

Really?
12-16-2011, 12:09 AM
Just something to keep in mind the guys in gray are considered off the list.

I would like to grab Alexis Ajinca if he is still available, basically Roy Hibbert 2.0 type player though, I know someone with better low post man to man defense would be better, but I doubt we would miss too much of a beat if Roy ended up going down.

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MillerTime
12-16-2011, 12:14 AM
Dalembert is a defensive presence !

He's also expensive

ndcoltsnpacers
12-16-2011, 12:22 AM
Let's get Dampier. Any chance we have to sign a guy who played in the Flo-Jo's, and it's almost 2012, we have to take.
http://www.sbaycards.net/images/49/400247869649.JPG
He's the last remaining player who wore one.

Doddage
12-16-2011, 12:30 AM
B Rush for Jason Thompson... DO IT!!!!
And be hung up on by Geoff Petrie!

Gremz
12-16-2011, 01:40 AM
Absorb Kaman maybe?

pacer4ever
12-16-2011, 01:47 AM
Fesenko? Dampier? Offer either of them 2mil/2years and see what you get.

Both of them are minimum salary type guys why would we overpay??



Absorb Kaman maybe?

If we give up a few draft picks he is possible they will trade him by the deadline IMO.

Gremz
12-16-2011, 01:50 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure what his value is at this point, I wouldn't want to be parting with a 1st rounder for him, that's for sure.

pacer4ever
12-16-2011, 01:53 AM
^^I think Gray got a decent size contract, forget with who

^5 Is Jason Collins the better twin? One of them is decent, but the other one is really quite bad.

Gray went to the Raptors

I think Larry should call over and get...................

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd87/bruntyblue/Cards%20for%20sale%20or%20trade/ROOKIES/07-08UltraGold224.jpg

Either him or bring in a guy like Greg Smith who isn't very good but he is a decent player. Hopefully Roy's work ethic rubs off and he actually starts taking basketball more serious. He has skill he just doesn't work hard or play hard but he is more skilled than any affordable other option.



Yeah, I'm not sure what his value is at this point, I wouldn't want to be parting with a 1st rounder for him, that's for sure.

That would be the asking Price IMO a 1st rd pick and a young guy.

Anthem
12-16-2011, 02:08 AM
Both of them are minimum salary type guys why would we overpay??
Great. Spend 3mil and get them both.

I. Want. Beef.

31andonly
12-16-2011, 02:21 AM
Has S.Jones already signed elsewhere? No worries, I don't want him back, I was just wondering...

CableKC
12-16-2011, 02:53 AM
Great. Spend 3mil and get them both.

I. Want. Beef.
Go. To. Wendys.

I hear it's open 24 hours in some places.;)

wintermute
12-16-2011, 02:53 AM
Just something to keep in mind the guys in gray are considered off the list.

I would like to grab Alexis Ajinca if he is still available, basically Roy Hibbert 2.0 type player though, I know someone with better low post man to man defense would be better, but I doubt we would miss too much of a beat if Roy ended up going down

Alexis Ajinca has his own youtube mix :eek: Now I've seen everything :laugh:

That said, I like him better than most project centers. I can see the Roy comparison, though he is more outside shooter than post presence. Not a guy I would want to lean on heavily though.

CableKC
12-16-2011, 02:54 AM
I suggest either getting Reggie Evans, Dampier or better yet....bring Stanko over.....we just need a Center that can come over and split time with Foster to make up 16 to 20 minutes a game when Hibbert has to rest.

Ballism would usually be able to tell us....but what's Stanko's contract status and possibility to bring him over over the next year?

oz_pacer
12-16-2011, 02:59 AM
I'd be interested in hollins and hilton armstrong

Gremz
12-16-2011, 03:23 AM
I suggest either getting Reggie Evans, Dampier or better yet....bring Stanko over.....we just need a Center that can come over and split time with Foster to make up 16 to 20 minutes a game when Hibbert has to rest.

Ballism would usually be able to tell us....but what's Stanko's contract status and possibility to bring him over over the next year?

He has an out clause for the NBA, but I'm pretty sure he has 2 years left on his deal.

Lance George
12-16-2011, 03:30 AM
If Joel Przybilla is healthy and wants to play another year, he'd a good signing. He's huge, '7"1, 255 lb., and is an excellent rebounder and shot blocker, which is what I assume we're looking for.

What about Joey Dorsey? I see he signed overseas in September. If he's available (I'm unsure of the details of his situation), he'd be a good pickup. He's basically a young Reggie Evans; undersized, but a powerful build and completely dominant on the glass.

Peck
12-16-2011, 03:39 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that if Barac isn't brought over now when we are praying to God everynight that Roy stay's 100% healthy all season long because he is our only legit center (beyond the ghost of Jeff Foster) then he will never be brought over here and we can move on like we did with Lobeck.

I think both Euro's were drafted with the idea in mind that they were future trade assets and so far 50% of that is correct. Let's see about the other half.

Richard_Skull
12-16-2011, 04:17 AM
I've heard that Fesenko is a good defensive presence and should be cheap. Any thoughts?

McKeyFan
12-16-2011, 07:59 AM
I. Want. Beef.

TMI

BoomBaby33
12-16-2011, 08:02 AM
Dalembert, Hollins, Armstrong, or Ajinca. Bring one of them in.

thefeistyone
12-16-2011, 08:08 AM
I'd be ok with bringing Fesenko in. Plays pretty good D, takes up a lot of space. None of the guys on that list would be world beaters, we just need someone to fill in when Foster needs to sit out a game, we know that will happen this season.

DrFife
12-16-2011, 09:22 AM
TMI

Tremendous.

OakMoses
12-16-2011, 09:40 AM
I don't think Hollins is available. I thought he had a player option that he picked up. At this point there aren't really any attractive vets besides Pryzbilla, who's talking about retiring. I say offer Fesenko or Ajinca a 2 year deal with a team option for the 2nd year. They've got far more long-term potential than anybody else.

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Sparhawk
12-16-2011, 09:54 AM
How is Dalembart still a FA?

D-BONE
12-16-2011, 10:05 AM
How is Dalembart still a FA?

Maybe asking price?

Maybe teams waiting for all the big man dominoes to fall first - West, Nene, Howard talks, etc?

I think he might be a good option for Houston. I'd love to have him here, but the money is reportedly steep for us.

cordobes
12-16-2011, 10:14 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that if Barac isn't brought over now when we are praying to God everynight that Roy stay's 100% healthy all season long because he is our only legit center (beyond the ghost of Jeff Foster) then he will never be brought over here and we can move on like we did with Lobeck.

I think both Euro's were drafted with the idea in mind that they were future trade assets and so far 50% of that is correct. Let's see about the other half.

There was a lockout. Worst possible season to sign that kind of player. They had to settle their life months ago, they weren't going to wait.

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I want the Celtics to sign a veteran beefy center to round the big man rotation too and FWIW my priorities would be Dampier and Gadzuric. Two good rebounders and decent shot-blockers, Dampier brings more post defense, Gadzuric is less of an offensive hindrance and better on transition. If I were Bird, I'd probably be intrigued enough by Thabeet to bid something on his contract.

RWB
12-16-2011, 10:55 AM
I want the Celtics to sign a veteran beefy center to round the big man rotation too and FWIW my priorities would be Dampier and Gadzuric. Two good rebounders and decent shot-blockers, Dampier brings more post defense, Gadzuric is less of an offensive hindrance and better on transition.

Sounds like his China team is getting ready to cut him, but he's having a toe problem, as in fractured.

cordobes
12-16-2011, 02:09 PM
Sounds like his China team is getting ready to cut him, but he's having a toe problem, as in fractured.

I think he was already released from his Chinese team. Read about it some time ago. Also that the injury wasn't serious, that he'd only be out for a couple of weeks. In fact, it sounded like the injury was more of an excuse for both sides to part ways: Gadz to find a NBA contract, the team because he wasn't producing well. If the toe is actually fracture, that changes things. Have you read about that recently?

CableKC
12-16-2011, 02:13 PM
I think it's pretty safe to say that if Barac isn't brought over now when we are praying to God everynight that Roy stay's 100% healthy all season long because he is our only legit center (beyond the ghost of Jeff Foster) then he will never be brought over here and we can move on like we did with Lobeck.

I think both Euro's were drafted with the idea in mind that they were future trade assets and so far 50% of that is correct. Let's see about the other half.
What's the point of drafting him then? I would FOR ONCE like to see some Euro Player that we draft actually play in a Indy Uniform....especially when there is an obvious need.

Gamble1
12-16-2011, 02:20 PM
What's the point of drafting him then? I would FOR ONCE like to see some Euro Player that we draft actually play in a Indy Uniform....especially when there is an obvious need.

Hi.

My name is Primoz Brezec and I was on the Pacers. I am Jose Slaughters favorite player.;)


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Justin Tyme
12-16-2011, 02:44 PM
Hi.

My name is Primoz Brezec and I was on the Pacers.


Didn't they lose him to Charlotte in the new team draft? He played well for Charlotte a season or 2.

Gamble1
12-16-2011, 02:46 PM
Didn't they lose him to Charlotte in the new team draft? He played well for Charlotte a season or 2.
Yep, I think we used the player protection clause (whatever it was called) on Reggie instead of Primo.

Kegboy
12-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Yep, I think we used the player protection clause (whatever it was called) on Reggie instead of Primo.

Yes, we learned our lesson with Byron Scott.

Lance George
12-16-2011, 05:52 PM
Jason Smith is off the market...

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Jason Smith has agreed to a three year, $7.5 million deal to stay with the New Orleans Hornets, a league source tells Y! Sports.