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DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:31 PM
Indiana Pacers fans will likely have to wait until next week to see newly acquired power forward David West make his debut. Pacers coach Frank Vogel said today that West likely wont play against the Chicago Bulls at Conseco Fieldhouse on Friday. Its only because the game will just be days after he signed with our team, Vogel said. Hes still learning the system and hes got to improve his conditioning because he was holding himself back some since he was a free agent.

i dont understand this at all... thats what training camp is for.

Winner
12-14-2011, 02:33 PM
Well, looks like I probably won't be getting tickets until he's going to play.

ejwallace
12-14-2011, 02:34 PM
But if you have a player running around, unsure about what he's doing, you're not benefitting those who are familiar with the system. Once West gets the plays and system down better, and back into better shape, he will be playing. Until then, he does us no good running around aimlessly trying to figure out his place....

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:36 PM
But if you have a player running around, unsure about what he's doing, you're not benefitting those who are familiar with the system. Once West gets the plays and system down better, and back into better shape, he will be playing. Until then, he does us no good running around aimlessly trying to figure out his place....

then what about the trades during the season... if im right most always play immediately.. wouldnt you agree? especially if ur a good player...

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:37 PM
But if you have a player running around, unsure about what he's doing, you're not benefitting those who are familiar with the system. Once West gets the plays and system down better, and back into better shape, he will be playing. Until then, he does us no good running around aimlessly trying to figure out his place....

im sure he is a very smart and educated guy.. one week and dont know a single play in this system? what a season to look forward to then..

Sookie
12-14-2011, 02:37 PM
It's probably more from a conditioning standpoint, and wanting to see what some of the other PFs can do.

Eindar
12-14-2011, 02:39 PM
then what about the trades during the season... if im right most always play immediately.. wouldnt you agree? especially if ur a good player...

Games after the trading deadline count. Friday's game won't.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:41 PM
Games after the trading deadline count. Friday's game won't.

i meant that when teams trade for quality players they play immediately... and here indiana is not playing him due to he dont know the system.... lol... the interview i seen of him he sure dont look out of shape..... i know the game does not count, but, he could at least play several minutes it would seem..... he has been here what? 5 days? and dont know a single play.. i played basketball and im sure 5 good days of practice would get him to be able to play at least 10 minutes friday...

90'sNBARocked
12-14-2011, 02:42 PM
It's probably more from a conditioning standpoint, and wanting to see what some of the other PFs can do.

Exactly!

The dumbest thing we could do is rush him back, and have his knee flair up and he misses significant time

I dont understand though why he couldn't play 8-10 m inutes though

Scot Pollard
12-14-2011, 02:43 PM
That's quite alright. It's only a preseason game.

ejwallace
12-14-2011, 02:44 PM
then what about the trades during the season... if im right most always play immediately.. wouldnt you agree? especially if ur a good player...

True, but he has only been cleared to come back from his ACL for a month and a half. Being on the free agent market, he's not going to overwork himself to possibly aggravate his injurie again. Now that he has a contract is when he will begin to really focus on training and getting back into playing shape. Being in shape and "playing shape" differ. The guy was out for a long time with his ACL.

Look at it like this...Do you think the Colts will throw Peyton Manning in at quarterback as soon as he is cleared from his surgery?

His workouts have probably mostly been concerned with rehab up until he was released in Oct. Then he could begin running and testing out his newly healed body....He is obviously going to need to work to get back into playing shape after sitting for 8 months or so.....No point in putting him out there too early....

vnzla81
12-14-2011, 02:44 PM
Exactly!

The dumbest thing we could do is rush him back, and have his knee flair up and he misses significant time

I dont understand though why he couldn't play 8-10 m inutes though

He haven't practice in eight months until yesterday, he needs to get in basketball shape and most important see how the knee feels.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:45 PM
True, but he has only been cleared to come back from his ACL for a month and a half. Being on the free agent market, he's not going to overwork himself to possibly aggravate his injurie again. Now that he has a contract is when he will begin to really focus on training and getting back into playing shape. Being in shape and "playing shape" differ. The guy was out for a long time with his ACL.

Look at it like this...Do you think the Colts will throw Peyton Manning in at quarterback as soon as he is cleared from his surgery?

His workouts have probably mostly been concerned with rehab up until he was released in Oct. Then he could begin running and testing out his newly healed body....He is obviously going to need to work to get back into playing shape after sitting for 8 months or so.....No point in putting him out there too early....

I didnt remember he had a torn ACL.. i guess ur right then..

Brohan Cruyff
12-14-2011, 02:46 PM
That's quite alright. It's only a preseason game.

And he hasn't played since March. If he's not ready, why rush him for a preseason game? Surely he'll play once the season's actually started.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:46 PM
True, but he has only been cleared to come back from his ACL for a month and a half. Being on the free agent market, he's not going to overwork himself to possibly aggravate his injurie again. Now that he has a contract is when he will begin to really focus on training and getting back into playing shape. Being in shape and "playing shape" differ. The guy was out for a long time with his ACL.

Look at it like this...Do you think the Colts will throw Peyton Manning in at quarterback as soon as he is cleared from his surgery?

His workouts have probably mostly been concerned with rehab up until he was released in Oct. Then he could begin running and testing out his newly healed body....He is obviously going to need to work to get back into playing shape after sitting for 8 months or so.....No point in putting him out there too early....

yes, peyton would want to play.. he is a player my friend.

Ownagedood
12-14-2011, 02:48 PM
I like that hes not playing... Yes, im excited to see him out there and see what he can do for us.

But this is only a preseason game and its against a rival. Why not save some of your cookies for the next time you play them?.. when it matters.

90'sNBARocked
12-14-2011, 02:50 PM
yes, peyton would want to play.. he is a player my friend.

Im sure West wants to play , but the decision will always be made by the medical and coaching staff, regardless of West's opinion

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:57 PM
The doctor has cleared him 100 percent, and cleared him to push [the knee] as hard as he can right now, said Wests agent, Lance Young. David can be ready for the start of training camp.
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cleared to play in october 21st.... they said he was way ahead of schedule... seems to me he would be in better shape 2 months later. but, i will let it pass ....

Trader Joe
12-14-2011, 02:57 PM
I understand, but I guess I don't see what harm there would be in letting him go for 5 minutes or so. Just so the fans could see him in the jersey and such. Hopefully he at least dresses.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 02:58 PM
Im sure West wants to play , but the decision will always be made by the medical and coaching stuff, regardless of West's opinion

doctor already cleared him in october.. do a google search when he was cleared.

remember vogel said he wasnt playing him because he is only a few days here......

he is not in shape,, even though his agent said the doctor cleared him to push his knee hard in october....

he has been here a week and dont know a few pplays indiana could run for him.....

just my vent.. im off to work.. thanks group

Tom White
12-14-2011, 03:00 PM
Indiana Pacers fans will likely have to wait until next week to see newly acquired power forward David West make his debut. Pacers coach Frank Vogel said today that West likely wont play against the Chicago Bulls at Conseco Fieldhouse on Friday. Its only because the game will just be days after he signed with our team, Vogel said. Hes still learning the system and hes got to improve his conditioning because he was holding himself back some since he was a free agent.

i dont understand this at all... thats what training camp is for.

He needs to get in "basketball shape" after his injury and rehab.

Training camp? Just how long of a training camp do you think he has had?

90'sNBARocked
12-14-2011, 03:03 PM
doctor already cleared him in october.. do a google search when he was cleared.

I understand my friend, but

Cleared to play by the team physician is different than the medical staff determining it is in his best intrest to not play

I know were talking semantics here but I think the main concern is delayed onset muscle soreness, meaning West could play 20 minutes, experience no initial pain , then the next day his knee looks like a softball

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 03:03 PM
He needs to get in "basketball shape" after his injury and rehab.

Training camp? Just how long of a training camp do you think he has had?

he has had two months to get in shape friend.. doctor clears him oct to push his knee hard.. im sure west didnt get in shape in the lockout...... but two months working out on his own would have helped greatly...

Psyren
12-14-2011, 03:06 PM
DAVIDLOCKHEART40:

Youre massively overreacting. Its a preseason game. Chill.

Its likely just to give him a few days to get used to playing again. This really is not a big deal at all

vnzla81
12-14-2011, 03:08 PM
Does anybody here remember how long it took Dunleavy to get in basketball shape after his surgery? Just asking.

Since86
12-14-2011, 03:09 PM
Just watch the press conferene when West was introduced. Larry explained the reasoning as to why he won't play. It's in the first 2 minutes of the video.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-14-2011, 03:11 PM
One of the more productive players at his position in recent years, West tore his left anterior cruciate ligament late last season. West, 31, says his knee feels strong and hes progressed to playing with some contact.

Im glad theyre doubting me, West told Yahoo! Sports. I am going to shock folks. I have not stopped working. No vacations. No family time. No chilling. I have not worked this hard or as consistent in any point of my career, college or pro.

and he is not in shape lol....

Tom White
12-14-2011, 03:13 PM
he has had two months to get in shape friend.. doctor clears him oct to push his knee hard.. im sure west didnt get in shape in the lockout...... but two months working out on his own would have helped greatly...

There is a vast difference between being "in shape" and being "in basketball shape".

Plus, when you are working out on your own you don't have guys 6'9" and 250lbs pounding on you.

Freddie fan
12-14-2011, 03:14 PM
I understand, but I guess I don't see what harm there would be in letting him go for 5 minutes or so. Just so the fans could see him in the jersey and such. Hopefully he at least dresses.

I can see that point of view, but I could also see them wanting to wait until he has a better chance to play well in his debut with some more practice under his belt.

Trader Joe
12-14-2011, 03:15 PM
he has had two months to get in shape friend.. doctor clears him oct to push his knee hard.. im sure west didnt get in shape in the lockout...... but two months working out on his own would have helped greatly...

Have you ever had a serious knee injury? I've spent the past three months getting over 4 bones bruises in my right knee as well as severe strains on my ACL and MCL, luckily nothing tore.

It's taken me 3 months just to get back to what I'm going to call normal range of motion, and I'm just now cleared for SOME high impact stuff. My knee won't be at full strength for likely another 3 months and I still experience some pain. I can do a little running (maybe a mile, but that's it), and if I even want to think abotu playing soccer (how I hurt the knee in the firs tplace) I have to wear a brace and take it very slow. I have had top notch medical care, and I am not an athlete, but let me tell you, my climb back from my injury has not been easy and I didn't even tear anything.

I completely understand why they are doing this, I'd love to see David play even for 5 minutes, but it could be a huge risk still. He will likely have to wear a brace on that knee for a long time, maybe forever. I know I will have to do something like that for a while. Knee injuries aren't to be trifled with. Two months is not enough time and being cleared by your doctor to workout is a very broad and general announcement.

There are so many things I didn't even think about with my knee that I've had to rehab. Stuff like balance being at the very top, when you injure your knee like with an ACL or something like I had with a lot of torque that creates bone bruising and strains, you do a lot of damage to nerves as well is how my physical therapist explained it to me. Your knee has to re-learn how it exists in the world, where it is. Standing on one leg for the first time I was allowed after my knee injury was one of the most difficult things I've ever done. Your knee literally feels like it is panicking and has no idea where it is. It's very disconcerting. Balance, strength, lateral quickness, these are all things you have to get back to close to 100% before you can even think about getting in sports shape, and that's not even considering being a professional athlete.

Trader Joe
12-14-2011, 03:16 PM
One of the more productive players at his position in recent years, West tore his left anterior cruciate ligament late last season. West, 31, says his knee feels strong and hes progressed to playing with some contact.

Im glad theyre doubting me, West told Yahoo! Sports. I am going to shock folks. I have not stopped working. No vacations. No family time. No chilling. I have not worked this hard or as consistent in any point of my career, college or pro.

and he is not in shape lol....

Yeah, you've obviously never had a serious knee injury...or if you have, you've completely forgotten what it is like.

Kemo
12-14-2011, 03:18 PM
Some of you are way too damn impatient ... my gawd .. lol.. and over a preseason game nonetheless.. wow

I love ya all, but damn , all I can do is shake my head in disbelief at some of the comments I see on here sometimes ...

imawhat
12-14-2011, 03:19 PM
It doesn't matter how great of shape you're in, there's no substitute for NBA practice/games.

Anyone who's played a very fast-paced full court basketball game against strong athletes should understand why he's not playing Friday.

I'm in great shape right now, and I can run several miles, but I guarantee you I couldn't play five minutes in a full-court basketball game.

Hicks
12-14-2011, 03:30 PM
All of the hard work this summer was to get the knee healthy and strong and to stay in relatively good shape. But even healthy players have to come back from the summer and get in NBA shape.

Vogel and players today mentioned that it wasn't until a few days into training camp that they all got into true shape. West is behind. He'll be ready soon.

BillS
12-14-2011, 03:41 PM
Some of you are way too damn impatient ... my gawd .. lol.. and over a preseason game nonetheless.. wow

I love ya all, but damn , all I can do is shake my head in disbelief at some of the comments I see on here sometimes ...

Yeah, I think people have gotten so used to whining they are actively searching for unguarded bowls of cornflakes to p**s in.

Sandman21
12-14-2011, 03:57 PM
Let's throw a guy who's been on the team all of 3 days out onto the floor on Friday! I like it!

Unclebuck
12-14-2011, 04:00 PM
I don't understand the point. The coaches don't think he is ready to play, so he's not going to play in a game that doesn't count.

What am I missing.

gummy
12-14-2011, 04:06 PM
Yeah, I think people have gotten so used to whining they are actively searching for unguarded bowls of cornflakes to p**s in.

:applaud:

I am going to have to seriously consider putting that quote in my signature.

graphic-er
12-14-2011, 04:30 PM
I'm glad he isn't playing right away either, those dirty Bulls Boozer and Noah would likely push him as he grabs a rebound and cause him to land awkwardly. No reason to risk his season playing an exhibition game against 2 of the dirtiest front court players in the league.

Phree Refill
12-15-2011, 06:42 AM
WHAT??!!! D West isn't playing in the first preseason game?!!! Well FML, there goes our season...

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:14 PM
Yeah, you've obviously never had a serious knee injury...or if you have, you've completely forgotten what it is like.

my lord man i just quoted what his own doctor said to him.. he said for west to push his knee very hard... its not me saying... if they dont want to play him fine... if you're doctor clears you to begin pushing you're knee then by all means push it.

Since86
12-15-2011, 12:19 PM
"Pushing" is a pretty subjective term. What you consider "pushing" might be be "pushing" for someone else.

I'm sure his doctor has had input on whether or not he should play. I think I would take their advice over some random poster on an internet forum.


It just boggles my mind that people think that they can diagnosis, and prescribe rehab for professional athletes, without ever being trained in rehab, and without even seeing a patient.

The internet. Where everyone is a specialist......

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:22 PM
I don't understand the point. The coaches don't think he is ready to play, so he's not going to play in a game that doesn't count.

What am I missing.

vogel stated he isn't playing for the simple fact

1. he is new and dont know the system.
2. he is not in shape.

All im saying when teams trade for players even during the season,and they come to the team that lands them they play immediately.. depending on if they are good players..... it's been two months and not in shape when his doctor told him in october to push his knee...

its simple west more than less knew the season would be over with the lockout and he really didnt train hard as he should....

this is it folks.... i was upset because vogrl stated thats the only two reason he wasnt playing... nothing about the injured knee... if thats the only two reason they are not playing him when he has been maybe to what 4-5 practices?..

but if they dont want to play him fine with me. i just thoughts why not play him and get his use to some playing time before the regular season.

WhoLovesYaBaby?
12-15-2011, 12:24 PM
Kind of disappointing on this one. But I will be watching anyway.

pacers74
12-15-2011, 12:24 PM
As long as he plays Dec. 26th, than who cares.

Since86
12-15-2011, 12:25 PM
He was a FA. FA's rarely play 5-on-5 basketball, especially when they're coming back from an injury.

Being in shape, is a little different than being in basketball shape. I told you at the top of this page to watch the press conference the other day, because Larry talked about this very issue, and explained the difference between basketball shape, and being in shape.



This crap gets old. Fast.

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:28 PM
"Pushing" is a pretty subjective term. What you consider "pushing" might be be "pushing" for someone else.

I'm sure his doctor has had input on whether or not he should play. I think I would take their advice over some random poster on an internet forum.


It just boggles my mind that people think that they can diagnosis, and prescribe rehab for professional athletes, without ever being trained in rehab, and without even seeing a patient.

The internet. Where everyone is a specialist......

can you read? LOL. this is amazing... i just copied and pasted what his doctor told him... and now you say " I WOULD TAKE THIER DOCTOR ADVICE OVER SOME RANDOM POSTER? this is absolutely funny.

Since86
12-15-2011, 12:31 PM
You said his doctor told him he can "push it." Do you know what "pushing it" means by his doctors standards, because I sure as hell dont?

You're trying to argue that your definition of "pushing it" is also his doctors definition.

ejwallace
12-15-2011, 12:31 PM
can you read? LOL. this is amazing... i just copied and pasted what his doctor told him... and now you say " I WOULD TAKE THIER DOCTOR ADVISE OVER SOME RANDOM POSTER? this is absolutely funny.

Vogel explains it all (http://www.indystar.com/article/20111215/SPORTS04/112150373/Pacers-notebook-West-probably-won-t-make-Pacers-debut-until-next-week?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS) in that story....2 practices....not knowing the system....Free Agents tend to reserve themselves.....What more do you want??

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:31 PM
He was a FA. FA's rarely play 5-on-5 basketball, especially when they're coming back from an injury.

Being in shape, is a little different than being in basketball shape. I told you at the top of this page to watch the press conference the other day, because Larry talked about this very issue, and explained the difference between basketball shape, and being in shape.



This crap gets old. Fast.

well lets home he plays when the season egins then..... we only have him under 2 yr contract..

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:31 PM
Vogel explains it all (http://www.indystar.com/article/20111215/SPORTS04/112150373/Pacers-notebook-West-probably-won-t-make-Pacers-debut-until-next-week?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS) in that story....2 practices....not knowing the system....Free Agents tend to reserve themselves.....What more do you want??

i want him to play lol.. thats what i want

ejwallace
12-15-2011, 12:34 PM
i want him to play lol.. thats what i want

Let's say he does play, and since he's not ready, tweaks his ACL or knee or something else.....Now we don't have him longer.....Seems more logical to me to wait til he's ready...

DAVIDLOCKHART40
12-15-2011, 12:37 PM
Let's say he does play, and since he's not ready, tweaks his ACL or knee or something else.....Now we don't have him longer.....Seems more logical to me to wait til he's ready...

i could see that if he didnt listen to the doctor.. but his doctor stated for west to push his knee... this can happen even if we are healthy..... very easy to understand the situation. when players are cleared by thier doctor they usually go practice,ect....Its not that he is not ready because the knee is hurting ok? david even said his knee feels great... this has nothing to do with the ijury why he isnt playing.. ok?

he started working on his knee 3 days after surgery... you must not understand what im saying. he isn't playing due to his knee bothering him.. it's because he isnt in basketball shape and not knowing the system...... poor excuse if you ask me... indiana only has 66 games and larry said we are going to bring him along slowly... well i hope he gets in shape fast..

knee has nothing to do with what i posted... he is cleared to play...



Oct. 20, 2011 - 1:55 PM ET
David West (reconstructive knee surgery) has been fully cleared by doctors to return to the court.

indiana would have never signed him if they thought something was wrong with his knee. im sure if it was up to west he would want to play at least a few minutes im sure.

ejwallace
12-15-2011, 12:45 PM
i could see that if he didnt listen to the doctor.. but his doctor stated for west to push his knee... this can happen even if we are healthy..... very easy to understand the situation. when players are cleared by thier doctor they usually go practice,ect....Its not that he is not ready because the knee is hurting ok? david even said his knee feels great... this has nothing to do with the ijury why he isnt playing.. ok?

he started working on his knee 3 days after surgery... you must not understand what im saying. he isn't playing due to his knee bothering him.. it's because he isnt in basketball shape and not knowing the system...... porr excuse if you ask me.

I didn't claim it had to do with "the injury". My point was he is not in "Game shape". He doesn't know "The System". Now put those two together and you have a guy running around amiss, who isn't in the physical condition he should be in, playing at a professional level. It's like asking a pitcher to pitch without warming up, or a sprinter to run without stretching. There is a reason pro athletes lift weights, do endurance training, work on conditioning....It's so their body is prepared for the beating they are about to put it through....At this point, West is not prepared....

Sandman21
12-15-2011, 12:46 PM
We're talking about preseason here. PRESEASON.

He's been with the team for 3 days, let him sit tomorrow night and play him on the road game against Chicago.

Ozwalt72
12-15-2011, 12:48 PM
i could see that if he didnt listen to the doctor.. but his doctor stated for west to push his knee...

One thing, he's practicing.

Another? If your conditioning is lacking, you can be more vulnerable to injury in a game situation.

Another? Maybe the Pacers are simply protecting their investment. Pre-season game doesn't show up on the final record. Let him get a few more practices under his belt for the 2nd pre-season game, so they actually have something to work toward.


Why are you making such a big deal of this?

Oliver
12-15-2011, 12:49 PM
I bet if someone tried to tell Hansbrough its just preseason, prolly get knocked out knowwhutimsayin?

xBulletproof
12-15-2011, 12:50 PM
Peyton Manning has been cleared to throw a football. I can't imagine why he isn't playing in games? :laugh:

I'm going to make this wild guess that you've never played any sport outside of a little league. You're clearly not understanding how coming back from an injury works, and what it does to you. You look fine, and you look capable, but you're not all there. Mentally, or physically at that point. That said, if it was a game that counted, I would bet he would come off the bench for a few.

tennymf
12-15-2011, 12:54 PM
i want him to play lol.. thats what i want

I think ideally we would all love to see him play. For reasons outlined, though, it ain't gonna happen. So...

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gummy
12-15-2011, 03:25 PM
i want him to play lol.. thats what i want


:violin:

vnzla81
12-15-2011, 04:17 PM
Looks like neither Perdergraph or West are playing friday and I'm not liking the Pendergraph knee issue either.



MikeWellsNBA Mike Wells
Bringing West along slowly and Pendergraph is dealing with knee problems. I take it u didn't read http://indystar.com 2day bout West?

MrPreGame
12-15-2011, 04:22 PM
Dude West even said in his press conference he isn't in NBA game shape. They talked about this specifically. He has to get used to a new city, new medical staff, new playbook, new teammates, new coaches, and a NEW KNEE. Chill out give him some time to get his life straight.

PG-24
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
Indiana Pacers fans will likely have to wait until next week to see newly acquired power forward David West make his debut. Pacers coach Frank Vogel said today that West likely wont play against the Chicago Bulls at Conseco Fieldhouse on Friday. Its only because the game will just be days after he signed with our team, Vogel said. Hes still learning the system and hes got to improve his conditioning because he was holding himself back some since he was a free agent.

i dont understand this at all... thats what training camp is for.

You mean the 4 days of practice he'd have under his belt? TOONNS of time.

D0NT SH0OT ME
12-15-2011, 05:13 PM
Have you ever had a serious knee injury? I've spent the past three months getting over 4 bones bruises in my right knee as well as severe strains on my ACL and MCL, luckily nothing tore.

It's taken me 3 months just to get back to what I'm going to call normal range of motion, and I'm just now cleared for SOME high impact stuff. My knee won't be at full strength for likely another 3 months and I still experience some pain. I can do a little running (maybe a mile, but that's it), and if I even want to think abotu playing soccer (how I hurt the knee in the firs tplace) I have to wear a brace and take it very slow. I have had top notch medical care, and I am not an athlete, but let me tell you, my climb back from my injury has not been easy and I didn't even tear anything.

I completely understand why they are doing this, I'd love to see David play even for 5 minutes, but it could be a huge risk still. He will likely have to wear a brace on that knee for a long time, maybe forever. I know I will have to do something like that for a while. Knee injuries aren't to be trifled with. Two months is not enough time and being cleared by your doctor to workout is a very broad and general announcement.

There are so many things I didn't even think about with my knee that I've had to rehab. Stuff like balance being at the very top, when you injure your knee like with an ACL or something like I had with a lot of torque that creates bone bruising and strains, you do a lot of damage to nerves as well is how my physical therapist explained it to me. Your knee has to re-learn how it exists in the world, where it is. Standing on one leg for the first time I was allowed after my knee injury was one of the most difficult things I've ever done. Your knee literally feels like it is panicking and has no idea where it is. It's very disconcerting. Balance, strength, lateral quickness, these are all things you have to get back to close to 100% before you can even think about getting in sports shape, and that's not even considering being a professional athlete.


Damm, I actually tore my ACL (and part of my meniscus) and I didn't experience any of the problems that you have.

Anthem
12-15-2011, 05:48 PM
There is no way that this poster is the actual David Lockhart.

FlavaDave
12-15-2011, 06:41 PM
Side Question: Will this game be broadcast on television anywhere?

Suaveness
12-15-2011, 06:44 PM
I feel stupid for having read all this.

granger4mvp
12-15-2011, 06:45 PM
Side Question: Will this game be broadcast on television anywhere?

Fsn