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Skaut_Ech
10-11-2011, 11:19 AM
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Hicks
10-11-2011, 11:48 AM
Looking forward to this.

How awesome that one summer will contain both this and Dark Knight Rises?

And who knows, maybe the Spider-Man reboot will be good, too.

Trader Joe
10-11-2011, 11:49 AM
I really hope this movie doesn't suck.

Peck
10-11-2011, 12:37 PM
You of course realize that I will probably die at the end of the credits as at that moment my life will be complete. (well minus a Pacers title)

Skaut_Ech
10-11-2011, 01:03 PM
LOl...yeah. When you think about it, in a way, we've waited our whole life for something like this. :cheering::woot::happy:

Hicks
10-11-2011, 01:12 PM
That is one of the interesting things of the past decade of movies: We've gotten many of them that now we take for granted as being possible, when even I can recall a time where it all sounded like pure fantasy. In the early 90's, who thought movies like this would happen? Or something like Avatar? Or the Lord of the Rings?

ilive4sports
10-11-2011, 06:07 PM
no ed norton as the hulk?

Day-V
10-11-2011, 06:17 PM
Oh my God.




I want. Now.

Shade
10-11-2011, 06:27 PM
It's rare that I get my hopes really high for anything, but...

This is going to be epic.

Deadshot
10-12-2011, 01:20 PM
no ed norton as the hulk?

It looks like it was an issue with creative control, more or less:

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/07/12/ed-norton-the-hulk-avengers-marvel/

rexnom
10-13-2011, 01:38 AM
Who's the villain? Loki? I didn't catch Thor.

Trader Joe
10-13-2011, 02:17 AM
Yep, Loki is the main villain. I would suggest giving Thor a watch if you can.

Trader Joe
10-13-2011, 02:23 AM
Also, here's my main concern, Cap was always the Avengers leader, but is there any doubt that RDJ as Stark/Iron Man is going to dominate all the Avengers screen time? I mean he is clearly the best actor of the group and also the most comfortable as his character. I guess it's a minor gripe, but I don't see anyway that you don't walk out of the movie seeing Iron Man as the dominant force in the Avengers. Perhaps that works better for modern times since in the original Avengers Cap was more relevant to the time period, but now there's no doubt with the way they have set up the time line that Iron Man is the most relevant hero there. I.E. relating to the current generation.

Peck
10-13-2011, 03:32 AM
Also, here's my main concern, Cap was always the Avengers leader, but is there any doubt that RDJ as Stark/Iron Man is going to dominate all the Avengers screen time? I mean he is clearly the best actor of the group and also the most comfortable as his character. I guess it's a minor gripe, but I don't see anyway that you don't walk out of the movie seeing Iron Man as the dominant force in the Avengers. Perhaps that works better for modern times since in the original Avengers Cap was more relevant to the time period, but now there's no doubt with the way they have set up the time line that Iron Man is the most relevant hero there. I.E. relating to the current generation.

Um.....Not sure what you mean exactly.

Iron Man was one of the founding members along with Thor, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne & the Hulk.

They did not find Caps frozen body till issue # 4.

Tony Stark has always been a leader on the team and his money, well his Fathers money through the stark foundation has funded the team.

Cap really didn't assume field leadership of the team until all of the originals left and he stayed to guide the new team.

In other words in the books Iron Man has always been every bit as much front and center as Cap has and in fact they played off of this very issue in the recent civil war series as the sides lined up behind either Iron Man or Captain America.

Shade
10-13-2011, 07:27 AM
Yeah, Cap and Stark have pretty much been co-leaders for a while now. At least, before the whole Civil War tiff.

Trader Joe
10-13-2011, 09:15 AM
I dunno why it always seemed to me that Cap was the leader, granted I'm probably not as versed as either of you. Just has seemed that way to me, plus the way third party articles always seem to portray it.

Peck
10-13-2011, 03:14 PM
I dunno why it always seemed to me that Cap was the leader, granted I'm probably not as versed as either of you. Just has seemed that way to me, plus the way third party articles always seem to portray it.

No, your really not incorrect on that. Cap has morphed over time into not only being the supreme fighter but they have also made him be some form of tactical expert (I'd say from about the mid 70's till now) as well. Also because of his high public opinion he has become the voice of the team when dealing with the press or public usually.

One other thing to keep in mind was that right after the Korvac series when the U.S. government took over operations of the Avengers they made Cap the leader because he was still considered an active military member (he soon rectified that) so they thought they could give him orders and in turn he would order the team to do the governments bidding.

Sorry, had to get my nerd on today.:cool:

Yes as you can tell I am a life long Avengers fan.

duke dynamite
10-13-2011, 04:02 PM
I cain't wait.

Constellations
10-13-2011, 07:08 PM
I cain't wait.

Cain't? Indiana...

Stryder
10-13-2011, 10:05 PM
Looks bada$$!

Mr.ThunderMakeR
10-18-2011, 12:48 PM
I am excited about this, but I can't help but see a little Transformers in there, especially in the beggining of the trailer. This is a very BAD thing.

Also Hawkeye (one of my favorite characters) just looks dumb. And they screwed up with not getting Edward Norton back.

Hicks
10-18-2011, 01:25 PM
Define "a little Transformers" ?

Trader Joe
10-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Well, the director said he was trying to emulate Transformers in terms of scale and effects...take from that what you will.

Hicks
10-18-2011, 02:16 PM
It's Joss Whedon. Coming from him, it's probably a good thing; he knows the importance of story and character, and his productions usually are at least moderately intelligent.

Hicks
10-18-2011, 02:18 PM
Okay, having watched Transformers 3 yesterday and now taking a look again at the start of this trailer, I see exactly what he's talking about.

Fortunately, it's reminding me of Transformers in ways that were never what made those films less than good.

Skaut_Ech
10-19-2011, 09:30 AM
It's Joss Whedon. Coming from him, it's probably a good thing; he knows the importance of story and character, and his productions usually are at least moderately intelligent.

I'd say more than moderately. I think the guy is a very clever writer and I like that he skews towards making things dark. I think that will serve this movie. I hope he DOES emulate Transformers, because it's weak link is his forte like you said, characterization. With him professing to be a feminist and seeing how he deals with female characters, I'm really curious on his spin on the Black Widow.

Mr.ThunderMakeR
10-19-2011, 01:31 PM
I'd much rather this movie emulate the Iron Man films then the Transformers ones. I may have been a little overly critical for such a short trailer. I just don't want to see any more summer blockbuster, end-of-the-world scenes of cities and landmarks being destroyed. Thats kinda the impression I got from the beginning of the trailer. The rest of the trailer looked pretty decent though.

Skaut_Ech
10-19-2011, 02:11 PM
I think you have to make it "end of the world, life will end as we know it kinda stuff. This is the Avengers, the world's last, best hope. You have to make the scale big...huge, even. Iron man, at it's heart, is a film about personal redemption. In a way, so was Batman Begins. For a super-team, I think you have to amp it up a notch and as long as the destruction isn't gratuitous, I think it will work. I don't have the least problem with the summer blockbuster...as long as the writers/director pay attention to the people and not get lost in the scenery.

Peck
10-19-2011, 02:23 PM
I think you have to make it "end of the world, life will end as we know it kinda stuff. This is the Avengers, the world's last, best hope. You have to make the scale big...huge, even. Iron man, at it's heart, is a film about personal redemption. In a way, so was Batman Begins. For a super-team, I think you have to amp it up a notch and as long as the destruction isn't gratuitous, I think it will work. I don't have the least problem with the summer blockbuster...as long as the writers/director pay attention to the people and not get lost in the scenery.

Inside the zombie DC life form beats the heart of a Marvelite waiting to be set free.;)

Trader Joe
10-19-2011, 02:31 PM
"i just wanna blow stuff up." Michael Bay

Mr.ThunderMakeR
10-19-2011, 04:36 PM
Ok I didnt want to turn this into Transformers debate. Ill just say this, I'm highly skeptical of this film. I LOVED the Avenger growing up, but I just cant see it translating to the big screen really well. This isn't like Iron Man or Batman with one lead, this isn't even X-men where all the characters share similar backgrounds and motivations. The Avengers are all completely different characters, from different backgrounds, and with completely different themes to their own respective comics. Throwing them all on screen together and getting the dynamics between them right is going to be extremely difficult. This is not an easy film to make, but all the more kudos to them if they actually pull it off.

rexnom
10-19-2011, 11:18 PM
Anybody else a little frustrated Hawkeye is in this and the Pyms are not?

Peck
10-19-2011, 11:44 PM
Anybody else a little frustrated Hawkeye is in this and the Pyms are not?

Yes, although I do love Hawkeye.

rexnom
10-20-2011, 12:56 AM
Yes, although I do love Hawkeye.
Yeah, me too. But why won't they give him a costume? He just looks like the redneck guy from the Walking Dead.

Peck
10-20-2011, 01:15 AM
Yeah, me too. But why won't they give him a costume? He just looks like the redneck guy from the Walking Dead.

:laugh::laugh:

You know now that you mention it.:buddies:

Skaut_Ech
10-20-2011, 01:47 PM
Inside the zombie DC life form beats the heart of a Marvelite waiting to be set free.;)


:mygod::spitout::noooo:

Skaut_Ech
10-25-2011, 11:41 AM
So I don't start another thread, here's the new trailer for the upcoming season 2 of the animated series. Starts out kinda blah, but check out the list of characters and bad guys for the upcoming season! (Red Hulk? wow.)

Thought I'd share for those with interest.

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Skaut_Ech
10-25-2011, 11:48 AM
And for the true comic book geeks, here's a 7 minute preview of what's in store for the new season of animated avengers. (The guy with the lisp is a little distracting.)

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xj8fvy"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xj8fvy_aemh-new-looks-new-heroes_shortfilms" target="_blank">AEMH - New Looks, New Heroes</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/redruger" target="_blank">redruger</a></i>

Peck
10-25-2011, 12:36 PM
Oh God when does season 2 start????

Season 1 was great and I believe season 2 will no officially catapult this animated series as the best cartoon adaptation of a comic book to the best of all time. Yes even over the 90's Spiderman, X-Men & Batman the animated series.

The cartoon was actually significantly better than the actual book last year.

Hicks
10-25-2011, 12:50 PM
I'll stick with 90's X-Men and 90's Batman. 90's Spider-man was okay, but not in their league.

I've watched 2-3 Avengers episodes, and it's good, but it didn't strike me as being excellent. JMO.

Peck
10-25-2011, 03:52 PM
I'll stick with 90's X-Men and 90's Batman. 90's Spider-man was okay, but not in their league.

I've watched 2-3 Avengers episodes, and it's good, but it didn't strike me as being excellent. JMO.

Which ones did you watch?

Stryder
10-25-2011, 04:49 PM
Give me 90s batman and supes animated any day...

Peck
10-25-2011, 05:44 PM
In fairness I will also have to say that I did forget to include Justice League Unlimited in the pantheon of great animated comic adaptations.

I just happen to think the Avengers is the best, however that would be like a Pacer fan trying to claim that Reggie Miller was one of the best. In other words, yes I'm a huge Avengers fan.

I really like almost all of the adaptations since the late 90's other than for whatever reason they just can not do a good Fantastic Four (this includes movies) and I'm not a fan of the teen titans one either.

Young Justice isn't bad either btw.

I am not thrilled though that they are changing caps outfit.

Hicks
10-25-2011, 10:48 PM
Which ones did you watch?

I saw one where they help Blank Panther solve a problem in his homeland, I saw one that I don't recall as well involving the bad guy voiced by Lance Henrickson and where Iron Man tries to reason with some kind of energy monster guy before he consumed himself or burned himself up or something, and I saw the season finale, which I recall liking the most.

Peck
10-26-2011, 12:12 AM
I saw one where they help Blank Panther solve a problem in his homeland, I saw one that I don't recall as well involving the bad guy voiced by Lance Henrickson and where Iron Man tries to reason with some kind of energy monster guy before he consumed himself or burned himself up or something, and I saw the season finale, which I recall liking the most.

It's sad they did not make it more clear that this was Wonder Man from the Comic Books.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lndm7rc4M61qkru1ko1_500.jpg

Like I said I freely admit that I may want to like this more than I probably should, although they have done nothing to let me down at all. I guess if I have one complaint it is that on occasion they have the wasp be a little more anime than I would prefer and on occasion the manga slips out on some of the villains but overall I have no complaints.

I recently went back and watched every single episode of both the x-men & spiderman on netflix. I loved them both. However I think in re-watching them I came to appreciate spiderman a little more. Simply because as I watched them in order I realized that they sometimes had story line arcs that lasted entire seasons (which is just unheard of for a saturday morning cartoon show that I know of) I mean sins of the father lasted an entire season.

But don't get me wrong X-men were great as well.

bellisimo
10-26-2011, 05:54 AM
for me it was always 90's Spider-Man on top followed by X-men and a close 3rd of Batman. But we were really blessed to have such high quality shows in our generation.

Shade
10-26-2011, 05:41 PM
The recent Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon was excellent. In fact, I'd argue it was slightly better than the 90's toon, and I loved the 90's toon.

Skaut_Ech
11-12-2011, 05:34 PM
The Green Lantern movie was a big flop in my book. Iwasn't even sure why I bothered, but I checked out the 2 episode sneak preview of Green Latern: The Animated Series last night. Guess who's in charge of the production? Bruce Timm. Yup, the same Bruce Timm who oversaw Batman:TAS. I gotta say, I had really low expectations for this, but was VERY pleasantly surprised. Then I read an interview with the creators and I think this might be VERY good. If you can find a torrent for it, or video, I suggest you fans of animated heroes check it out. Comes out in 2012 and they've got me hooked.
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spreedom
05-01-2012, 12:55 AM
I just saw this yesterday... and it is fantastic. Maybe I'm a prisoner of the moment right now, but I think it's at least as good as The Dark Knight. A different movie for sure, but it's the best Marvel Studios movie (in my opinion) and each character is very well-represented. I'll be honest, I don't know the characters that well outside of very basic origin stories and what I've seen in the comics, but this movie delivers on its hype on every level. I can't wait to check it out in IMAX this weekend.

And to echo the advice I gave my brother earlier... PLEASE watch the five lead-in movies before The Avengers for the full effect!

Skaut_Ech
05-03-2012, 08:57 AM
Thanks a lot, spreedom. Now I'm going to geek out even harder than I have been. My wife has graciously agreed to see it with me tomorrow in IMAX/3D. (She's excited to see Chris Hemsworth in 3D on a huge screen. :rolleyes::laugh:) I've been trying to not spaz, but this is the most I've been excited about a superhero movie since the first Burton Batman movie. I feel like running around all day screaming, "I'm seeing the Avengers tomorrow!! I'm seeing teh Avengers tomorrow!"

Hicks
05-03-2012, 05:43 PM
Yeah, after I get some work done tomorrow I plan to go to one of the evening showing in Muncie tomorrow night. I'm excited.

Man, what a summer for me. Avengers, Prometheus, The Dark Knight Rises, and I'm curious to see how good the Spider-Man reboot might be, too.

Suaveness
05-04-2012, 06:25 AM
That last Spider-Man trailer was awesome.

I'm seeing IMAX 3D tonight. So excited, I love Joss. Firefly FTW.

Suaveness
05-05-2012, 12:02 AM
Um, why isn't anyone talking about this. Holy CRAP.

Hicks
05-05-2012, 12:15 AM
I enjoyed it. I'm more of a Nolan's Batman kind of a guy when it comes to superhero movies, but this was a lot of fun. Hulk steals the show.

Mr.ThunderMakeR
05-05-2012, 02:41 AM
Any reservations I may have expressed earlier in this thread were not needed. This might be the best superhero movie yet. I don't know how they managed to weave all these characters together so well but they did. I don't think they really could have done a better job.

I am normally super-critical and hard to please when it comes to rehashing my favorite things from my childhood.

That said, to the makers of this film: BRAVO! Well done Sirs!

Peck
05-05-2012, 04:29 AM
Obviously I was pre disposed to liking this film, but in all honesty I was concerned because I thought they were going to make the idiotic mistake of using a bunch of CGI unknown aliens as the main focus of the villains of the movie.

Well, they didn't. They made Loki, just like they did in the Thor film, kick @ss.

I could go on for days about how well they did making these characters have some form of depth and believe me when you have that many actors with this many characters it is almost impossible to do but they did it.

I'm not going to lie, when I saw the first scene during the credits showing who the aliens worked for I squeeled like a little girl embarrassing my wife in the process. But to know that they are going to go there just makes me regret that we won't be able to see the sequel next month.

As a life long Avengers fan I can honestly say they have captured the spirit of the book and very much captured the characters and their interaction with each other. By the end Cap was even the field leader.

When I saw Thanos turn and smile I may have been the happiest person on the planet, I had no idea.

Hicks
05-05-2012, 10:19 AM
Mental note: Need to fix spoiler code.

Suaveness
05-05-2012, 12:44 PM
Obviously I was pre disposed to liking this film, but in all honesty I was concerned because I thought they were going to make the idiotic mistake of using a bunch of CGI unknown aliens as the main focus of the villains of the movie.

Well, they didn't. They made Loki, just like they did in the Thor film, kick @ss.

I could go on for days about how well they did making these characters have some form of depth and believe me when you have that many actors with this many characters it is almost impossible to do but they did it.

I'm not going to lie, when I saw the first scene during the credits showing who the aliens worked for I squeeled like a little girl embarrassing my wife in the process. But to know that they are going to go there just makes me regret that we won't be able to see the sequel next month.

As a life long Avengers fan I can honestly say they have captured the spirit of the book and very much captured the characters and their interaction with each other. By the end Cap was even the field leader.

When I saw Thanos turn and smile I may have been the happiest person on the planet, I had no idea.

I can't begin to tell you how happy I am that Joss was the one who directed this movie.

He alone knows the best way to get every character his due time, how to make them relate to the audience with "human" emotions, and then get them together and work together in the end. And I don't know about you, but I thought Mark Ruffalo was easily the best Hulk compared the two before him. And I really like Ed Norton, but Mark's Bruce was very funny and seemed to get the scientist part of him much better. Hulk's scenes stole the show. Loved Hulk vs Loki (as did the entire audience).

Knowing Joss, I was wondering who was going to die going into the movie. I was very sad to see Phil Coulson (I thought Agent was his first name) get the spear to the back. But you know that's going to happen.

Btw, my favorite ending was the last one, that they filmed last month. That. was. HILARIOUS. You could tell Mark was trying his best not to laugh during the whole time...


You can see the spoiler comments if you quote the post. But that's the only way right now.

Hicks
05-05-2012, 01:54 PM
I found a new spoiler mod. I like the look of this one better.

Should I leave the button saying Spoil, or should it say Show, or should it say Show Spoilers, or something else to that effect?

Hicks
05-05-2012, 01:56 PM
What did they film last month?

Dgreenwell3
05-05-2012, 02:05 PM
What did they film last month?

It was The clip at the very end of the credits.

Hicks
05-05-2012, 02:58 PM
I only stayed for the scene early into the end credits. There was another scene? What happened?

Suaveness
05-05-2012, 03:29 PM
I only stayed for the scene early into the end credits. There was another scene? What happened?

There was another scene they filmed last month that everyone was worried about. They were sitting in cafe eating food together with the restaurant a mess. It was pretty hilarious.

AesopRockOn
05-06-2012, 04:52 AM
Knowing Joss, I was wondering who was going to die going into the movie. I was very sad to see Phil Coulson (I thought Agent was his first name) get the spear to the back. But you know that's going to happen.

I agree that the agent should have been kept around for future movies. The most obvious thing to me, and i know this is wrong since feminism, but they really should have killed off ScarJo. She is simply the worst character in the movie universe and completely takes you out of the battle scenes. I can’t take anything seriously if a 110-pound woman can single-handedly take out dozens of aliens and their space Segways.

I mean, at least they made Hawkeye’s arrows super exploding missile things; it makes no sense, but at least they acknowledged how stupid that character was as an Avenger. Nothing for Black Widow. Sean Connery is a more convincing Russian than ScarJo.

It seems like the movie got all of the medium things right, but just said “**** it.” when it came to the big and small things.

For example, all of the individual stuff with Loki is great. Hiddleston can really chew scenery, embarrassing ScarJo and holding his own with RDJ. However, his plan is incredibly stupid. The Phantom Menace-esque evil allies, the idea that unleashing the Hulk would disrupt the harmony of the group (Where does this even…what?), and just leaving his magic scepter and super energy box unguarded.

If the joke was that he was just being a queen, Sam Jackson sure made a lot of serious faces about it. Tough to buy unless the scene in Germany is a double-meta Nazi goof.

Other important questions:

Could the unidentified old white people ordering around a one-eyed black guy look any more like unidentified old white people ordering around a one-eyed black guy?
Did Sam Jackson wipe the Captain America Pokemon cards with the agent's blood or his own, and which is weirder?
Why were any of the Avengers afraid that M. Ruff changing into the Hulk would be a bad thing since, after he woke up naked and hungover like Frank the Tank, he could completely control his powers and become King Kong with hops?
When is my iPhone contract with AT&T finally up so I can switch to Verizon and get service in private jet aircraft?
Is Captain America still a 100-year-old virgin? (If so, Apatow has an idea for an executive producer credit.)
Will the fact that Loki was presumably the villain keep people from making and wearing that golden antler helmet for Halloween?
Will Captain America receive a new pair of pajamas for the next movie or will he keep this one?
Once Stan Lee finally dies, will filmmakers still be forced to put him in these movies with hologram cameos a la 2Pac?
Will Whedon make the sequel a musical with NPH as the villain?

Despite all these concerns (Actually, this was pretty fun.), a very good time at the movies.

Hicks, I assume this (http://youtu.be/weM8Eaa89dk) will be taken down immediately.

P.S. Do not believe anything that the 'Auto Save' pop-up says.

AesopRockOn
05-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Holy **** (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/06/showbiz/avengers-breaks-record/)!!!



The superhero smorgasbord featuring Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and The Hulk brought in $200.3 million its opening weekend in 4,300 U.S. theaters, smashing the previous domestic record for any movie's first three days, Walt Disney Studios said Sunday in a news release...Its ultimate domestic haul is well ahead of the $168 million "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2" conjured up in its opening weekend domestically in July...Add international ticket sales since opening April 25 -- including openings in Russia, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Malaysia, New Zealand and the Philippines -- and " The Avengers" has already amassed $641.8 million in its first 12 days.

It may have a shot at Avatar.

Suaveness
05-06-2012, 11:39 PM
I certainly helped out, watched it twice this weekend...

Peck
05-07-2012, 12:35 AM
Me too.

This is one of those very rare films where I walked out after the second time ready to walk right back in and watch it a third time.

Also I know that I am really really going to show my nerdiness here but the Avengers Animated Series is every bit as good and today's episode they dealt with Korvac. Between the upcoming villain in the next Avengers movie and the Animated series doing Korvac I am literally in Heaven here. Hell throw in a Pacers playoff run and right now there are a lot of great things happening out there.

BTW, just because I am an Avengers fan don't think I was going to automatically like the film. In all honesty I think that makes me a tougher critic because IMO they had a lot to live up to , but they have far exceeded my expectations with this film. The only character I wasn't thrilled with was Hawkeye but I can live with the flaws that they had in him.

Second viewing also made me appreciate Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner even more, to me he is by far the best Banner that they have had.

Suaveness
05-07-2012, 01:24 AM
Second viewing also made me appreciate Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner even more, to me he is by far the best Banner that they have had.


Absolutely agree. I wouldn't mind if they continued to make another Hulk movie with Ruffalo as the lead. I think he would be excellent.

Stryder
05-07-2012, 07:03 AM
Loved, loved, loved it. Wish DC would pull their heads out of their butts and create some good standalones (other than the Dark Knight trilogy and what could be a very good upcoming Man of Steel) and then follow with a good and respectable Justice League, but I doubt it...

rexnom
05-07-2012, 11:42 AM
I was whelmed. Not underwhelmed. Not overwhelmed.
The battle scenes arefantastic. Kudos to Whedon. Very well filmed. Loved the battle scenes.

Hawkeye was terrible. I really don't like Jeremy Renner and I thought he was bland here. I loved Scarlett but she's not an Avenger. That was kind of weak.

I can overlook both of those since all the other actors were so outstanding. What I can't overlook, however, is that for the life of me, I can't figure out how powerful Loki is. In the beginning bullets are bouncing off of him and so he seemed relatively invincible. But by the end, he seemed incredibly weak and like a powerless foe. I was very confused and not really threatened by him. Also, his planned seemed relatively terrible. How was he gaining control of all those forces? How was he planning on executing the world leader part of it all? Very confusing. For a relatively bright guy, he had a terrible plan.


Also, I saw it in IMAX and still don't get the big deal. I thought the Prometheus trailer was the only thing that stuck out visually for me. Maybe it's because I wear glasses but I just don't think IMAX/3D is worth it.

ECKrueger
05-07-2012, 04:03 PM
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Skaut_Ech
05-08-2012, 11:19 AM
I'm trying to figure out when I can see it again. Once it got going, I was freaking the F out. :cheering: Cap taking charge in the field was absolutely perfect. Hawkeye acting as tactician, second in command during the battle was excellent. The Widow? She had the biggest heart in the whole film, far as I'm concerned. She's going to spend the rest of her life doing penance for how she used to be. I even loved the end, where they were leaving in their cars, etc. Did you notice you was pared with whom? Makes total sense Stark and Banner would be together. I actually haven't posted anything cause I feel like I could go on and on. My wife couldn't understand why Widow and Hawk were Avengers. I told her it's because they're like Batman, the best at what they do, to the point of being superhuman. Like Peck, I wish they could have brought that out more with Hawk. It would have been nice to bring his rogue, smart *** attitude from the comics, but I guess that would steal Stark's thunder.
I like Ruffalo, but was a little worried how he'd come across. Man, he was perfect. I think I heard he signed a six picture deal to play the Hulk.I will say I found the begginging a little slow, but the second half more than made up for it. This movie made me a very, very, happy geek. I gotta go. I'm getting all worked up again.

Wage
05-10-2012, 03:21 AM
Easily the best comic book movie I have ever seen, and it's honestly not even close. The way Whedon captures a character's entire personality with one line and a smile gave me nerd goosebumps.

rexnom
05-10-2012, 11:57 AM
The Stark/Banner scenes were easily the best in the movie. However, a lot of that has to do with the excellent RDJ-Ruffalo chemistry. Just fantastic casting.

Hawkeye was a waste. I didn't see him act like a tactician in the field at all. I totally missed that. Also, I didn't buy how he snapped out of it the mind control. A bump on the head? Really? Come on. And Jeremy Renner was just miscast. He needs more to work with than he was given here to be effective. He's wasted in a small action role. Very dissatisfied with Hawkeye. Although part of that may just be my own love for the comic book character.

Peck
05-10-2012, 12:29 PM
The Stark/Banner scenes were easily the best in the movie. However, a lot of that has to do with the excellent RDJ-Ruffalo chemistry. Just fantastic casting.

Hawkeye was a waste. I didn't see him act like a tactician in the field at all. I totally missed that. Also, I didn't buy how he snapped out of it the mind control. A bump on the head? Really? Come on. And Jeremy Renner was just miscast. He needs more to work with than he was given here to be effective. He's wasted in a small action role. Very dissatisfied with Hawkeye. Although part of that may just be my own love for the comic book character.

We are in complete agreement there, easly the least satisfying part of the move. But not enough for me not to want to go see it a 3rd and 4th time. :)

Sparhawk
05-10-2012, 01:47 PM
Saw a couple episodes of the Green Lantern and did not like it at all.

Dgreenwell3
05-10-2012, 02:27 PM
Saw a couple episodes of the Green Lantern and did not like it at all.

Terrible...just terrible...

Peck
05-12-2012, 02:26 AM
Ultimate Spider-man isn't much better.

bellisimo
05-14-2012, 03:20 AM
Just managed to check it out on Sunday - was a good flick but I still don't care about Widow, Hawkeye & Cap. America. These characters just don't do anything for me at all. Hulk was great - makes you realize just how awesome a solo Hulk movie could be if done by the right people. In terms of this movie - the plot line was as weak as a Transformers movie - so many plotholes and head scratching moments - the visuals and the actions scenes did a good enough job to cover it up but once the movie was over and you're looking back at what happened - you come to a realization that the script was really flawed.

Sparhawk
05-14-2012, 04:39 PM
It was, but it was still a fun movie. I thought this movie would suck all the way around. Glad it didn't.

rexnom
05-14-2012, 06:07 PM
Just managed to check it out on Sunday - was a good flick but I still don't care about Widow, Hawkeye & Cap. America. These characters just don't do anything for me at all. Hulk was great - makes you realize just how awesome a solo Hulk movie could be if done by the right people. In terms of this movie - the plot line was as weak as a Transformers movie - so many plotholes and head scratching moments - the visuals and the actions scenes did a good enough job to cover it up but once the movie was over and you're looking back at what happened - you come to a realization that the script was really flawed.
Yeah. When a film leaves gaping plot holes (e.g. Loki's plan for world domination) or has some terrible inconsistencies (Loki's powers), it makes the movie a lot tougher to watch. It says a lot about who well acted and directed Avengers was that it was still so enjoyable.

Hicks
05-14-2012, 10:06 PM
What was inconsistent about Loki's powers to you? The bit with Hulk? I thought that worked because he was caught off guard, and only Hulk could pull that off. Loki and Thor are about on par, power-wise. If Thor wasnt expecting it, the same thing could have theoretically happened to him. If anything, the bad writing in that case is that Loki is smart enough to know better than to let his guard down like that.

Hicks
05-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Also, what was the problem with Loki's plan? That it was inevitable that his providers would never honor the deal?

If so, I get that. Though to be fair, he's the god of mischief, so it could be that he was aware of that probability but didn't fully care.

cdash
05-14-2012, 11:48 PM
Also, what was the problem with Loki's plan? That it was inevitable that his providers would never honor the deal?
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My problem (personal opinion alert) was that it never was clear or made any real sense. To me, it seemed like he wanted world domination because of his massive ego and need for attention and respect. It never made sense to me why the goobers gave him that staff in the first place, but that might be more due to my hasty viewing of Thor than any plot issues with this movie.

I do think there were plot holes, but the movie was extremely enjoyable nonetheless. If you had to lump me into a "DC or Marvel" group, I would probably be more of a DC guy (Batman rules all, and it's not close for me). But I saw all the movies leading up to this and thought it was about as well done as a movie on this scale could be. I have minor beefs with some of the characters (I don't give two ***** about Scarlett's character or the arrow shooting dude, and Captain America continues to baffle me), but the movie is everything you want in a summer blockbuster. Popcorn movie at it's finest.

bellisimo
05-15-2012, 02:56 AM
Also, what was the problem with Loki's plan? That it was inevitable that his providers would never honor the deal?


He wanted world domination - yet his plan couldn't even secure 3 blocks in Manhattan - if Black Widow's regular guns are able to take out these powerful monsters, then did we really need Avengers? Why not just bring out the army and shoot 'em down? It just all felt like over the top build up for something which did not deserve it - basically this "threat" could've been handled without Assembling the Avengers - the only one with powers was Loki - and even he didn't really put much of a fight (he seems to be more of a weakling who tries to be the evil mastermind - rather than a power badguy...don't know enough about his backstory from comics)

And what exactly was Loki's plan with the Hulk? I didn't really understand that - at first I thought he wanted to use the Hulk against the world - but then they never really tried to go down that path in terms of the script - so that wasn't so clear to me.

AesopRockOn
05-18-2012, 03:10 AM
The editing room just came out with their abridged Avengers script. I read it on Cracked (http://www.cracked.com/article_19841_if-avengers-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest.html). Couple of great bits:


Suddenly, HEMSWORTH, EVANS and DOWNEY JR. look around and notice it's their first on-screen appearance together.


CHRIS HEMSWORTH
Quick, someone think of a super contrived reason for us to fight!




ROBERT DOWNEY JR.
I'll fight you because you want to fight your brother, who I also want to fight!


CHRIS EVANS
And I'll fight you both because I want you to stop fighting!


They proceed to act out their STATS from THE AVENGERS COLLECTIBLE TRADING CARD GAME and establish they are all EXACTLY EQUAL IN POWER, somehow. Guy on steroids, genius in a robot suit, invincible deity: basically identical.

...

CHRIS EVANS


Hang on a second, your hammer has decimated everything you've ever hit with it, you had no way of knowing my shield or Robert's armor would protect us. Did you just attempt to straight-up murder us? Don't change the scene, I want an answer to thi-







TOM HIDDLESTON
Foolish mortals, I shall destroy all of your cars! Everyone get out of the way, I don't want you to get hurt when I explode all of your cars!

Hicks
05-18-2012, 12:10 PM
He wanted world domination - yet his plan couldn't even secure 3 blocks in Manhattan - if Black Widow's regular guns are able to take out these powerful monsters, then did we really need Avengers? Why not just bring out the army and shoot 'em down? It just all felt like over the top build up for something which did not deserve it - basically this "threat" could've been handled without Assembling the Avengers - the only one with powers was Loki - and even he didn't really put much of a fight (he seems to be more of a weakling who tries to be the evil mastermind - rather than a power badguy...don't know enough about his backstory from comics)

A couple of things. First of all, without the Avengers, the portal never closes and those things keep piling out (theoretically 'indefinitely') and while the soldier aliens could get taken down, it's a whole other story when you factor in the giant serpents. Those things would have seriously ****ed things up (Jarvis tells Iron Man that none of his weapons would penetrate its armor, so I doubt the military would have much luck with them without going nuclear or managing to get a missile in its mouth I guess), and even said soldiers would have those energy weapons that tend to vaporize a human being on contact (as they did for Hydra in WWII in Cap. America's movie). So it wouldn't have been that easy. And there could easily have been additional monsters/weapons yet to be deployed. And, again, Loki.



And what exactly was Loki's plan with the Hulk? I didn't really understand that - at first I thought he wanted to use the Hulk against the world - but then they never really tried to go down that path in terms of the script - so that wasn't so clear to me.

He wanted the Hulk to do what he did end up doing: **** up the hellicarrier, kill/hurt people and/or the Avengers, and it more or less did that (didn't kill the heroes, obviously, but it certainly disrupted them all and sent some of them away). Basically to kill whomever he could if possible, cause damage, and ultimately it was just to buy time for the scientist to open the portal in NYC. Remember that's the key: He let himself get caught and then tried to get the Hulk to show up to stall.

Hicks
05-18-2012, 12:13 PM
Anyway, I saw this for a second time last night, and that helped clarify some things with me that were less so the first time around. Not having to be distracted by babies and a group of teens who laughed at EVERY. EFFING. THING. in the movie was a tremendous help, too.

God, those kids drove me nuts last week. Someone on screen says something funny, laugh as hard as possible. Someone says something kind of funny, laugh as hard as possible. Someone says something witty, laugh as hard as possible. Someone emotes, laugh as hard as possible. (Seriously, they even did this when Black Widows was just looking scared that Banner might Hulk out on her in India) Something cool happens, laugh as hard as possible. They were sitting right in front of me. It was awful.

So, yeah, not having that nonsense pulling me out of the movie made it much easier to stay involved.

I like the movie more now than I did the first time. From B+ to A- on my gradebook.

Skaut_Ech
05-21-2012, 02:08 PM
Saw a couple episodes of the Green Lantern and did not like it at all.

I try to balance things with the fact there are targeting this for young kids, but I have really liked the series a lot, as a whole. I like the space frontier aspect. Big space western motif feels right for me.for me. I haven't read the actual comic book for years (or any comic book), so I'm basing my opinion on just the series itself. At first, I was irritated how powerful the Red Lanterns are, but then, that makes sense. Rage is immediate, fierce and short term. In these little one on one skirmishes, it makes sense the Red would be so strong. I actually really enjoy the GL series. What don't you guys like about it? But I don't like it as much as...

Young Justice. Man, I REALLY like YJ. Although I'm liking that they made the jump in time and moved on past the training stuff (always boring), I hate they have put some much backstory that we've missed. NOne-the-less, can't wait for it every week.

On that same Tip, Avengers is number one. I freaking love Ms. Marvel, and I've never been a big fan of hers. One thing about Avengers is they are wasting time on stories that don't have much impact, far as I'm concerned. I didn't need the Ant-man/Iron Fist/Luke Cage story. It was nice seeing Beta Ray Bill, but it felt just felt rushed. I am a happy guy on Sundays laying one th couch hitting my trifecta of animated comic books.

Sparhawk
05-21-2012, 03:34 PM
Saw Avengers in 3D. I think I'm completely over 3D now. Movie great. 3D is meh.

Peck
05-21-2012, 07:54 PM
I try to balance things with the fact there are targeting this for young kids, but I have really liked the series a lot, as a whole. I like the space frontier aspect. Big space western motif feels right for me.for me. I haven't read the actual comic book for years (or any comic book), so I'm basing my opinion on just the series itself. At first, I was irritated how powerful the Red Lanterns are, but then, that makes sense. Rage is immediate, fierce and short term. In these little one on one skirmishes, it makes sense the Red would be so strong. I actually really enjoy the GL series. What don't you guys like about it? But I don't like it as much as...

Young Justice. Man, I REALLY like YJ. Although I'm liking that they made the jump in time and moved on past the training stuff (always boring), I hate they have put some much backstory that we've missed. NOne-the-less, can't wait for it every week.

On that same Tip, Avengers is number one. I freaking love Ms. Marvel, and I've never been a big fan of hers. One thing about Avengers is they are wasting time on stories that don't have much impact, far as I'm concerned. I didn't need the Ant-man/Iron Fist/Luke Cage story. It was nice seeing Beta Ray Bill, but it felt just felt rushed. I am a happy guy on Sundays laying one th couch hitting my trifecta of animated comic books.

My thought on the ant-man episode is that I believe they are actually going to tackle the entire yellow jacket storyline which I will be very interested in seeing how they handle the domestic violence aspect of that.

To be honest with you I didn't care for the Beta Ray Bill episode. Don't get me wrong I would have been thrilled if this were part of a Thor animated series but since it is the Avengers I felt a little like "what does this have to do with the Avengers"?

I'm with you on young justice, I love that they have pretty much just gone the route of makeing this more along the lines of the JLA unlimited series & I really look forward to whenever they have Captain Marvel in an episode.

This really is almost a golden age for animated comics. The only time that would be close would be back when fox was doing spiderman and the X-Men.

CableKC
05-21-2012, 11:54 PM
I'm glad that I'm not the only adult that still watches the Cartoon Network from time to time.

Kegboy
08-07-2012, 09:01 PM
http://www.hitfix.com/news/disney-ceo-joss-whedon-to-write-and-direct-avengers-2-and-create-marvel-series-for-abc


“Joss Whedon has signed an exclusive deal with Marvel Studios for film and television through the end of June 2015. As part of that deal, Whedon will write and direct Marvel’s The Avengers 2 as well as help develop a new live action series for Marvel Television at ABC. He will also contribute creatively to the next phase of Marvel’s cinematic universe.”

:jump: (http://www.hitfix.com/news/disney-ceo-joss-whedon-to-write-and-direct-avengers-2-and-create-marvel-series-for-abc)

Suaveness
08-07-2012, 10:38 PM
Yup, now this is exciting news. All hail Joss Whedon.