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Ultimate Frisbee
10-21-2004, 05:07 AM
Starters:

PG: Rafer Alston
SG: Jalen Rose
SF: Vince Carter
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Loren Woods (I don't believe this)


Bench:

Rafael Araujo
Matt Bonner
Ousmane Cisse
Donyell Marshall
Roger Mason
Jerome Moiso
Lamond Murray
Milt Palacio
Morris Peterson
Norm Richardson
Alvin Williams

Coach: Sam Mitchell

sweabs
10-21-2004, 07:59 AM
The Raptors will make playoffs this year.

I know that you are probably laughing about Loren Woods - but I've seen this guy play in preseason and he is all the Raptors needed - a big body to go in the middle, alter shots, get some rebounds and blocks...and that is exactly what Woods does.

Now, Bosh is playing at the 4 spot which he really does a nice job of - and this gives the Raptors guys like Donyell Marshall, Morris Peterson, Alvin Williams all off the bench for some nice depth.

One other guy on that roster - Matt Bonner - he will be a player to look out for in my opinion.

DisplacedKnick
10-21-2004, 08:31 AM
Well, the EC is so pathetically weak past the top 3 spots ... er, I've said this before.

For the first time, someone other than Vince is the key to their season. I think if Bosh turns into a superstar this year they'll make the playoffs. I happen to think he'll turn into one next year and they'll just miss though if Vince starts attacking the basket again instead of doing his Allan Houston imitation that would change.

ChicagoJ
10-21-2004, 10:15 AM
Aren't they renaming this the "Pretender" division... at least for this season?

ChicagoJ
10-21-2004, 10:17 AM
Philly will win the division with a 37-45 record, and there will be a four-way tie for second - every team with a with 36-46 record.

Arcadian
10-21-2004, 01:44 PM
I agree that the Raptors' season depends on Bosh's development and agree, too, with the belief that he is a year away from stardom.

Most of the teams I don't think of as being horrible on talent as much as they are horribly mismanaged. I expect 3 to make it into the playoffs.

For the Division I'd go with Philly because they have the best coaching. I'd give consideration to Boston as well because they have the best player in Pierce. (I think Kidd will still be hobbled and discouraged by management this season).

Philly
Boston
NY
Toronto
NJ

sweabs
10-21-2004, 01:58 PM
Yet another preseason, yet another "Loren Woods could be the next great thing at center"posting. I love it. There's a reason he never does anything in real games...........

I'm not saying he will be the next great thing.

All I'm saying is the Raptors just needed a guy who could alter shots in the middle, get some rebounds and take the load off Bosh so he could go back to his natural position of Power Forward. Now is when you will see Bosh flourish as a player.

Ultimate Frisbee
10-21-2004, 02:54 PM
Raptors could be good enough to make the playoffs

Philadelphia
New York
Toronto
Boston
New Jersey

sweabs
10-21-2004, 03:47 PM
They will make playoffs - and this will be Bosh's year.

sweabs
10-21-2004, 04:15 PM
Yet another preseason, yet another "Loren Woods could be the next great thing at center"posting. I love it. There's a reason he never does anything in real games...........

I'm not saying he will be the next great thing.

All I'm saying is the Raptors just needed a guy who could alter shots in the middle, get some rebounds and take the load off Bosh so he could go back to his natural position of Power Forward. Now is when you will see Bosh flourish as a player.

And if he were that guy, he wouldn't be on his 57th team in 3 years.......

Well, from the 3 preseason games I have watched him play thus far for the Raptors, he has altered shots, and he has gotten rebounds, and Bosh is now able to play the 4...

sweabs
10-21-2004, 04:35 PM
btown - I know there is a big difference between preseason and regular season. I'm not saying this guy is the next Shaq - he just fills a role that the Raptors DESPERATELY needed - and basically anything would be better than their options from last year. A guy who can pick up a few rebounds and is 7'2 in the middle, and allows Bosh to score is Loren Woods - I'm sure there are other 7'2 guys out there who can pretty much do the same thing!

sweabs
10-21-2004, 05:07 PM
I think he will see a lot more playing time on this Raptors team for one last chance to prove himself. The only other 2 options they have at the C spot are Jerome Moiso and Rafael Araujo.

ChicagoJ
10-21-2004, 05:13 PM
I know this is very out-of-character for me to say...

Perhaps Loren Woods has grown up and is now ready to contribute in the regular season.

Anyways, wasn't he the guy that fell out of the lottery and all the way to the second round because he flunked everybody's psychology tests?

I understand rcarey's point - a "true" center, even a bad one like Jerome James, could really help a team if its best player is a natural "4" and playing out of position. :twocents:

sweabs
10-21-2004, 07:48 PM
I know this is very out-of-character for me to say...

Perhaps Loren Woods has grown up and is now ready to contribute in the regular season.

Anyways, wasn't he the guy that fell out of the lottery and all the way to the second round because he flunked everybody's psychology tests?

I understand rcarey's point - a "true" center, even a bad one like Jerome James, could really help a team if its best player is a natural "4" and playing out of position. :twocents:

I don't disagree with that point, but this is just the wrong player to count on. He slipped to the 2nd round because of a back problem. Hasn't seemed to flair up in his time floundering throughout the pros. He's just counting on the wrong guy to make a difference for any team....

I'm not sure if you were referring to me "counting" on Loren Woods to be a difference maker for the Raptors.

I'm not "counting" on anyone to help out the Raptors! I'm not a Raps fan by any means :confused:

Plus, I still think he will help them, for the sole purpose that Bosh can now play the 4. Like I said, and what Jay pointed out - stick any centre in there - they don't have to be great...but at least it allows Bosh to play the 4.

Hicks
10-21-2004, 08:03 PM
I think he's generally agreeing with you, btown. What he's saying is that Woods is just a warm body to stick at the 5 so Bosh isn't there, not that Woods is going to DO anything at the 5.

ChicagoJ
10-21-2004, 08:06 PM
I think they're disagreeing on the "warm body" part - I think Btown believes Bender is more durable than Loren.

:jawdrop:

Kegboy
10-21-2004, 10:19 PM
Anyways, wasn't he the guy that fell out of the lottery and all the way to the second round because he flunked everybody's psychology tests?

Is that why. I've never been more draft shocked then that night.

Well, that and when Brad wasn't even stinking drafted. Idiots. They're all just a bunch of ****ing idiots. :banghead:

Kegboy
10-22-2004, 08:46 PM
Anyways, wasn't he the guy that fell out of the lottery and all the way to the second round because he flunked everybody's psychology tests?

Is that why. I've never been more draft shocked then that night.

Well, that and when Brad wasn't even stinking drafted. Idiots. They're all just a bunch of ****ing idiots. :banghead:



No, that isn't why. He had a rather worrisome back injury, and a total lack of ability.

I was in Tucson for the game his senior year where he had 16, 10, and 14, so don't tell me he has a total lack of ability.

(And those 14 aren't assists, they're blocks. As in tying David Robinson for most blocks ever in a college game.)

ChicagoJ
10-22-2004, 09:42 PM
I still think he filled in the wrong ovals on the psychology test.

:shrug: