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A.B.Hollywood
06-30-2011, 01:28 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/86479233123233792

And then here is the write-up from Rotoworld:


According to ESPN's Marc Stein, the Cavaliers and Kings are discussing a trade that would send J.J. Hickson to Sacramento in exchange for Omri Casspi.
Further details are still forthcoming, but if the two sides agree to the deal, this would mark a serious turn of events in Cleveland, as the team was unwilling to trade Hickson at last season's trade deadline. Hickson averaged 16.9 points and 10.8 rebounds after the All-Star break, but as we noted earlier this week, the drafting of Tristan Thompson likely meant the end of Hickson's tenure in Cleveland. Casspi would likely be the starting small forward in Cleveland, and Hickson's arrival in Sacramento would mean he and DeMarcus Cousins would man the front line. Stay tuned for more details as they become available.


Can we offer more than Casspi? if we can he certainly helps us at the 4 without spending a pretty penny.

RLeWorm
06-30-2011, 01:33 PM
Hickson is good but not an upgrade over Hansbrough

Strummer
06-30-2011, 01:34 PM
Would that give Sacramento an abundance of power forwards? Maybe it would make Jason Thompson available.

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 01:38 PM
Would that give Sacramento an abundance of power forwards? Maybe it would make Jason Thompson available.

No, Sac needs a forward. Also, if Dalembert leaves they will need a Center. No, this doesn't leave Thompson available unless the trade is for a better Center in return.

yoadknux
06-30-2011, 01:38 PM
What? Casspi? Really? :confused:
I think Hickson fits our young core, though he needs to become a better defender.
I'd offer Rush + AJ + second round pick.
If he's available cheap maybe we can try to steal him. I'd rather have a vet PF not another young guy though.

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 01:40 PM
Hickson is good but not an upgrade over Hansbrough

I firmly disagree!

Peck
06-30-2011, 01:41 PM
Hickson is good but not an upgrade over Hansbrough

Not an upgrade per say but a different skill set, one that might fit better with Roy and one that would allow him to play alongside Tyler on occasion.

vnzla81
06-30-2011, 01:42 PM
So they wouldn't trade Hickson for Amare but they are going to trade him for Casspi? Damn they suck as a franchise...

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 01:43 PM
What? Casspi? Really? :confused:
I think Hickson fits our young core, though he needs to become a better defender.
I'd offer Rush + AJ + second round pick.
If he's available cheap maybe we can try to steal him. I'd rather have a vet PF not another young guy though.

Cavs don't need Rush, Price. They need acouple SF. They need a starting SF.

naptownmenace
06-30-2011, 01:43 PM
What? Casspi? Really? :confused:
I think Hickson fits our young core, though he needs to become a better defender.
I'd offer Rush + AJ + second round pick.
If he's available cheap maybe we can try to steal him. I'd rather have a vet PF not another young guy though.

Casspi is or will be a better player than Rush and/or AJ. Maybe if the Pacers threw in an unconditional first round 2012 draft pick along with Rush, the Cavs might bite.

Otherwise, the only player the Cavs would probably be interested in from the Pacers would be Paul George and we know the Pacers wouldn't make that trade.

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 01:44 PM
Not an upgrade per say but a different skill set, one that might fit better with Roy and one that would allow him to play alongside Tyler on occasion.

On Point you are! :)

vnzla81
06-30-2011, 01:44 PM
Hickson is good but not an upgrade over Hansbrough

I swear some people here are getting pay or something to post this on every thread that talks about another teams PF :shakehead:

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 01:46 PM
I swear some people here are getting pay or something to post this on every thread that talks about another teams PF :shakehead:

LOL!

90'sNBARocked
06-30-2011, 01:47 PM
So they wouldn't trade Hickson for Amare but they are going to trade him for Casspi? Damn they suck as a franchise...

I think thats only becuase the self appointed"King" was good friends with JJ

Speed
06-30-2011, 01:54 PM
I like Hickson quite a bit, I'm really suprised they couldnt' do better. I think he's a really good fit here, unless there is something going on behind the scenes, I don't get this one. It's right he's alot different than Tyler in what he does. JJ actually has a pretty nice back to the basket game, iirc.

yoadknux
06-30-2011, 01:59 PM
Cavs don't need Rush, Price. They need acouple SF. They need a starting SF.
And Casspi isn't a starting SF. Rush is at least a role player.

uh, btw, update the main post. It's Casspi+First round pick for Hickson, which makes a lot more sense

naptownmenace
06-30-2011, 02:10 PM
And Casspi isn't a starting SF. Rush is at least a role player.

Casspi has good potential. I would definitely trade Rush for him.

Kstat
06-30-2011, 02:12 PM
Might I remind everyone this is the same JJ Hickson that the Cavs wouldn't trade for Amare Stoudemire...

redfoster
06-30-2011, 02:23 PM
Might I remind everyone this is the same JJ Hickson that the Cavs wouldn't trade for Amare Stoudemire...

Thanks, but the guy about 10 posts up did the same thing.

Cavs suck.

ECKrueger
06-30-2011, 02:29 PM
"Protection specifics on Kings to Cavs picks: Protected 1-to-14 in 2012, 1-to-13 in 13, 1-to-12 in 14, 1-to-10 from 15-17"

- Marc Stein

Sparhawk
06-30-2011, 02:35 PM
I think thats only becuase the self appointed"King" was good friends with JJ

Haha, that's so right. Then the "King" flees to Miami. Nice friendship.

Lance George
06-30-2011, 02:38 PM
Given the protection of the pick I'd say this is a good move for Sacramento. Hickson's very promising.

Kstat
06-30-2011, 02:39 PM
It's a swap of role players. Sacramento needed a big to replace Landry, and the Cavs desperately needed another wing that could shoot.

Sparhawk
06-30-2011, 02:40 PM
"Protection specifics on Kings to Cavs picks: Protected 1-to-14 in 2012, 1-to-13 in 13, 1-to-12 in 14, 1-to-10 from 15-17"

- Marc Stein

I've always been curious about the pick protections. Let's say the Kings manage to find themselves in the lottery all those years and with a high enough pick that they keep the pick. Does that mean that in 2018 the Cavs lose out on the pick or they get the pick no matter what?

vnzla81
06-30-2011, 02:42 PM
Done deal.

Placebo
06-30-2011, 02:46 PM
I've always been curious about the pick protections. Let's say the Kings manage to find themselves in the lottery all those years and with a high enough pick that they keep the pick. Does that mean that in 2018 the Cavs lose out on the pick or they get the pick no matter what?

In this particular case, I think it turns into a second round pick. Not so great after all those years, huh?

A.B.Hollywood
06-30-2011, 02:48 PM
Might I remind everyone this is the same JJ Hickson that the Cavs wouldn't trade for Amare Stoudemire...

Just think about how different the NBA would like right now?

I mean... Cleveland gets Amare and either wins or at minimum makes it to the finals. Lebron then stays. The Bulls then sign Dwayne Wade or Bosh. The other player then signs with New York. The cavs add additional pieces. The Heat go from in the finals to picking first and now have Kyrie Irving instead of the Cavs. Bulls and Cavs become the top two teams in the East for the foreseeable future with Lebron and Wade duking it out against each other year after year.

I mean... crazy stuff. All because JJ Hickson was overvalued. The entire NBA changed.

A.B.Hollywood
06-30-2011, 03:39 PM
Uhhh, apparently the pick is the CAVS pick and is going to Sac? What what WHAT? The Cavs are just awful at this. We need to be trying to trade with them.

http://twitter.com/#!/mr_jasonjones/status/86488902436786178


Trade is done. Omri Casspi headed to Cleveland for J.J. HIckson and a conditional first round pick.

vnzla81
06-30-2011, 04:00 PM
This is telling me that Varejao's value is close to what I was saying, 1st round pick+young player

Placebo
06-30-2011, 04:06 PM
I think it's a typo.


RealGM: The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired guard/forward Omri Casspi and Sacramento’s first round pick (protected) in the 2012 NBA Draft from the Sacramento Kings in exchange for forward/center J.J. Hickson, Cavaliers General Manager Chris Grant announced today.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/news#ixzz1Qn91g92Q


Cavs get the pick.

Sparhawk
06-30-2011, 04:07 PM
Uhhh, apparently the pick is the CAVS pick and is going to Sac? What what WHAT? The Cavs are just awful at this. We need to be trying to trade with them.

http://twitter.com/#!/mr_jasonjones/status/86488902436786178

***damit, Bird's fault for missing out on this oppt!!!!11!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/7/73/20110128203738!Trollface.png

SkipperZ
06-30-2011, 04:14 PM
***damit, Bird's fault for missing out on this oppt!!!!11!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/7/73/20110128203738!Trollface.png

what opportunity? what could we have offered that was better than casspi and a 1st that doesnt involve dc, pg, danny, hibbs or hill? because i wouldnt touch any of those players for jj

cle wasnt gonna take tyler (pointless) or rush (worse than casspi), and even if its protected, sacs draft pick projects to be more valuable than ours.

ECKrueger
06-30-2011, 04:26 PM
I don't think you understood.

90'sNBARocked
06-30-2011, 04:29 PM
Isnt Hickson supposedly the better player?

Why did Cleveland need to include a pick?
Edit:, my bad saw later post

CableKC
06-30-2011, 04:35 PM
Okay....so that looks like the Kings have Jason Thompson, Damarcus Cousins and JJ hickson for their frontcourt. I'm guessing that Dalembert is gone then.

Justin Tyme
06-30-2011, 04:45 PM
This trade has to be consumated by mid-night tonight, or it has to wait until a new CBA is signed.

Justin Tyme
06-30-2011, 04:47 PM
This is telling me that Varejao's value is close to what I was saying, 1st round pick+young player



Then it's telling you something different than it's telling me! It's telling me Varejao is NOT being traded. They can't afford to let him go now.

CableKC
06-30-2011, 04:51 PM
Then it's telling you something different than it's telling me! It's telling me Varejao is NOT being traded. They can't afford to let him go now.
I never thought for a second that the Cavs were going to trade him...much less to a Team in the same division.

Pacer Fan
06-30-2011, 05:31 PM
And Casspi isn't a starting SF. Rush is at least a role player.

uh, btw, update the main post. It's Casspi+First round pick for Hickson, which makes a lot more sense

uh, btw, back to ya!
I didn't say Casspi is a starter. I said they need acouple SF's and a Starting SF.

They have plenty of Rush's And AJ's on their roster already, they don't need another one!

oz_pacer
06-30-2011, 06:18 PM
so how do we get jason thompson from the kings? would he be available?

Foul on Smits
07-01-2011, 09:13 AM
I watched Casspi all season last year. I think the Cavs got a steal.

90'sNBARocked
07-01-2011, 11:49 AM
Chuck in Cleveland:
Lang, what do you make of the Hickson for Casspi & pick deal?

Lang Greene:
Chuck- absolutely love the deal for the Kings. How Hickson wasn't on the Pacers radar is beyond me given their need for a power forward next to Hibbert. I think Sacramento got the better of this deal.

Unless maybe Bird is confident he will get West?

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