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ErikD.
06-25-2011, 12:20 PM
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/hill_landing_page_2011_06_24.html

I'm going to try to make it if my boss will let me off early. It's a little short notice but I hope a decent amount of fans show up. We have to show the Pacers that we are committed to this thing too.

graphic-er
06-25-2011, 02:29 PM
I swear , why couldn't they make this on a Sunday? Very hard for people to take the first day of the work week off with out a very legit reason. No one's boss is gonna say go ahead cut out early to go see your basketball player. I'd love to be there, but there is no way I can swing it on a monday afternoon. I get that they want to make the nightly news casts, but a sunday would be better for the fans.

idioteque
06-25-2011, 03:13 PM
I swear , why couldn't they make this on a Sunday? Very hard for people to take the first day of the work week off with out a very legit reason. No one's boss is gonna say go ahead cut out early to go see your basketball player. I'd love to be there, but there is no way I can swing it on a monday afternoon. I get that they want to make the nightly news casts, but a sunday would be better for the fans.

Oh, I dunno, maybe an hour long stomach flu outbreak will hit Indiana tomorrow afternoon.

thatch3232
06-25-2011, 03:15 PM
I'll be there!! Gotta show show him some love!!

Shade
06-25-2011, 03:21 PM
I'll be there!! Gotta show show him some love!!

:uhoh:

SMosley21
06-25-2011, 03:27 PM
I'm off on Tuesday so I'm currently trying to conjure up a reason to switch my off day to Monday. I need something that my regional manager will buy.

pacer4ever
06-25-2011, 03:58 PM
I swear , why couldn't they make this on a Sunday? Very hard for people to take the first day of the work week off with out a very legit reason. No one's boss is gonna say go ahead cut out early to go see your basketball player. I'd love to be there, but there is no way I can swing it on a monday afternoon. I get that they want to make the nightly news casts, but a sunday would be better for the fans.

His basketball camp in San Antonio

Young
06-25-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm off on Tuesday so I'm currently trying to conjure up a reason to switch my off day to Monday. I need something that my regional manager will buy.

Accidents happen. Maybe you have to go to the dentist on Monday or something like that. ;)

RobfromPacers
06-25-2011, 06:40 PM
I swear , why couldn't they make this on a Sunday? Very hard for people to take the first day of the work week off with out a very legit reason. No one's boss is gonna say go ahead cut out early to go see your basketball player. I'd love to be there, but there is no way I can swing it on a monday afternoon. I get that they want to make the nightly news casts, but a sunday would be better for the fans.

We would prefer to make the press conference at a time that fits fans' schedules better. Unfortunately, George's schedule didn't allow him to get into town early enough to have it on Sunday.

The good news is the press conference is open (and free) to the general public. The arena isn't always available to have it open to the public. The presser will be located in the Indiana Health University Entry Pavilion in Conseco Fieldhouse.

Here's the Facebook event for the public press conference:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=156571547747051

SMosley21
06-26-2011, 03:22 PM
Cleared myself hot for switching my day off. I'll be in attendance at the Fieldhouse tomorrow to greet GH3!!

mattie
06-26-2011, 03:24 PM
Well boarding flight heading back Home.... #PacerNation how's everyone doing today

http://twitter.com/#!/George_Hill3/status/85058806387707904

Pacerfan
06-26-2011, 03:28 PM
Being a gal, adding Hill might give us the best looking wing rotation in the league with Hill, George, Granger, Rush, and Jones. Maybe more ticket sales from women? Apparently Hill was quite popular with the gals in SA.

SMosley21
06-26-2011, 03:42 PM
Being a gal, adding Hill might give us the best looking wing rotation in the league with Hill, George, Granger, Rush, and Jones. Maybe more ticket sales from women? Apparently Hill was quite popular with the gals in SA.

Whatever sells tickets. The Pacers have something for everyone

Scot Pollard
06-26-2011, 05:28 PM
His basketball camp in San Antonio

He has one in Indianapolis too.

All he does is give and help others. He's going to be great for the Pacers and has always been great in the community here.

I'm looking forward to seeing the press conference tomorrow. I'm the boss so I'll be there for the hour or so. :laugh:

SMosley21
06-26-2011, 05:52 PM
George is aware that I'll be there. He retweeted me. No big deal :)

Hicks
06-26-2011, 11:02 PM
I have to be in Noblesville tomorrow morning into lunch time. It's still out of my way, but I'm contemplating showing up for this.

Speed
06-27-2011, 07:17 AM
Sorry if this has been posted already, nice article about George Hill from April of this year. Shows his unselfishness, I hope he becomes more assertive under Vogel. Franks the coach to encourage him to do so, I think.

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/george-hill-and-the-green-light/

April 5, 2011, 4:50 pm <!-- date updated --><!-- <abbr class="updated" title="2011-04-07T23:31:11+00:00">— Updated: 11:31 pm</abbr> --><!-- Title -->
George Hill and the Green Light

<!-- Byline --><ADDRESS class="byline author vcard">By ROB MAHONEY (http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/author/rob-mahoney/)</ADDRESS><ADDRESS class="byline author vcard"> </ADDRESS><!-- The Content -->Within 15 seconds of entering Sunday’s game against the Phoenix Suns, George Hill had made his first basket. After 35 seconds more, he had made another. Minutes later, Hill was in the midst of a full-blown explosion, as he dropped a pair of pull-up three-pointers, hit a short jumper, and then successfully executed the patented, controversial “rip move (http://www.dailythunder.com/2011/03/should-kds-rip-move-be-called-a-foul/)” to earn three foul shots and pull off an 11-2 run all on his own. Toss in an extra basket and a technical free throw, and Hill concluded his six-minute stint in the first quarter with 16 points and spotless shooting from the field and the free throw line.

That kind of burst is exactly what makes Hill fascinating to some, confounding to others, and occasionally infuriating to those who understand and appreciate his scoring capability. Such a showcase has simply been uncharacteristic of Hill’s N.B.A. career, though hardly because of a lack of talent; Hill has come to embody San Antonio role player deference, and while that respect for the Spurs’ pecking order is surely appreciated, Hill is considerably more gifted than the specialists who typically fill minutes alongside Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.
Hill has the potential for much more than players in the Roger Mason Jr.-Brent Barry-Michael Finley mold. He needn’t confine himself to the perimeter, nor attempt to be wholly accommodating to his high-profile teammates. More than any other contemporary Spur role player, Hill is in a position to force his own way; not only is he talented enough to provide another dimension to San Antonio’s offense, but Hill has also been given Gregg Popovich’s blessing (via Jesse Blanchard of 48 Minutes of Hell (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/indiana-george-and-the-temple-of-doom)):

“We’re trying to get him to the point where every time he steps on the floor he knows that he’s a heck of a player, that we want him to be aggressive and that he has the green light to do that and be a scorer,” Popovich said. “It’s just a process. He’s a young guy and a respectful guy who defers and wants everybody to be happy. In an ironic sort of way, we’re trying to get him to be more selfish.”
Popovich believes in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before him. It has eluded Hill, but that’s no matter—tomorrow he will run faster, stretch out his arms farther…And then one fine morning—

When playing with the Spurs’ stars, Hill plays within his conception of a particular role. He largely sinks into the corner to await spot-up opportunities, making occasional plays and hitting shots when the ball swings his way. That’s not enough, at least in Popovich’s estimation. Clearly, San Antonio -– one of the top teams in the league this season on offense -– doesn’t need Hill to be an amazingly productive scorer to find offensive success, but why shouldn’t the Spurs strive for the actualization of an underused weapon? Any burden that Hill can lift from Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker is unquestionably helpful to the team’s overall performance, and adding a more dynamic Hill would only make the Spurs’ offense flow even more freely.

Regardless of the role that Hill believes he is playing for the Spurs, he can’t elect to mute his own scoring potential. Obviously there’s room for discretion, but universal deference isn’t helping his team produce nor is it aiding in his development as a player. Shooting from the corner isn’t the be-all, end-all for a player of Hill’s caliber. It’s a valuable skill, sure, but spacing the floor is no reason to disregard intuitive scoring instinct. Hill is a natural, an athlete, and has a silky jumper on which to rely. He won’t take the world by storm if he chooses to be more assertive, but Hill could very well make one of the league’s top offenses even better with his potential to score both inside and out, all while distracting opponents from his ever-potent star teammates.

For that to happen, Hill needs to step out of his trained role with San Antonio and back into himself. His maturation with the Spurs provides an invaluable infrastructure in which to access his greatest talents, but it’s still Hill’s original allure as a scorer that makes him so intriguing today (via 48MoH (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/)):

“[Popovich] needs me to be the Indiana George, the Indiana George that played in high school and college,” Hill said. “In high school and college I’d have 25-point halves, so I should try to relive the dream I guess.”
Hill is right in a sense, but Popovich simply desires the best of both worlds: a self-aware scorer who fully understands his role within the team concept and when those limitations no longer apply to him. It’s a change in approach that only Hill can make. So he beats on, boat against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

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BringJackBack
06-27-2011, 07:20 AM
Today is the big day!!!

Pacerblue
06-27-2011, 09:47 AM
any chance this is on nbatv?

ChristianDudley
06-27-2011, 10:32 AM
quite possibly I would think, but then there's a chance that it won't be...I'm not sure if there's any other new player introductions for other teams across the league today or not, though.

Daniel33
06-27-2011, 11:44 AM
any chance this is on nbatv?

it'll be online that the only thing i know.

http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/welcome_george_hill_back_110627.html

Speed
06-27-2011, 12:21 PM
Side note NBAtv is replaying game 5 and 6 from the Spurs/Memphis series this year on Tuesday (tomorrow). I just upgraded to get that channel so I can DVR/see George Hill play. its 5-6 and 6-7 ET tomorrow night.

Psyren
06-27-2011, 12:43 PM
I wish I could be there, but I suspect that many others are have this thing called work that they have to be at.

Still, I hope a lot of people show up. I just wish that this could have been on a weekend where more people could actually attend.

90'sNBARocked
06-27-2011, 01:09 PM
George_Hill3George Hill

RT @NBAcoaching: Be a PRO, not just a guy who is playing in the pros! There is a huge difference!

THAT is what G Hill is bringing back to Nap. That type of philosophy and commitment

much respect

SMosley21
06-27-2011, 01:15 PM
Anyone know anywhere close to Conseco that I could park for free and walk over to the Fieldhouse. Really don't want to pay to park somewhere for less than an hour.

Hicks
06-27-2011, 02:31 PM
Side note NBAtv is replaying game 5 and 6 from the Spurs/Memphis series this year on Tuesday (tomorrow). I just upgraded to get that channel so I can DVR/see George Hill play. its 5-6 and 6-7 ET tomorrow night.

A word of caution: I don't think Hill did very well either of those games, so keep that in mind going in.

LetsTalkPacers
06-27-2011, 03:01 PM
Im so excited. i hope this goes better than our trip to the airport last night

Daniel33
06-27-2011, 03:01 PM
wow alot people made it. Great to see!

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Im so excited. i hope this goes better than our trip to the airport last night

I still think George was too exhausted to be excited. Plus he strikes me as an low-key guy.

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Nice reaction it sounds like on the webcast.

docpaul
06-27-2011, 03:07 PM
Watching the press conference.

This kid is special. I just have a really good feeling about how he carries himself, how much he cares about the game, and how much he wants to be here. Poised.

I'm totally impressed. We have a leader on our hands that's going to be with this team for a long time.

Heisenberg
06-27-2011, 03:11 PM
Really hope when Roy does something wrong and gets down on himself George is right there with "This is how Tim did it..."

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 03:12 PM
Still, I hope a lot of people show up. I just wish that this could have been on a weekend where more people could actually attend.
George wanted to keep to his commitments in San Antonio (He got into Indy at the end of the day yesterday) and Im not sure they could have done it next weekend because of the CBA. Same reason Area 55 was put together so early this year.

graphic-er
06-27-2011, 03:13 PM
Well the video feed is really choppy for me, I hope they put the whole thing up there later on so i can watch it at home with a good connection.

odeez
06-27-2011, 03:20 PM
Welcome to Indy George! He spoke well at the presser and I can't wait to see him on the court!

Really?
06-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Well spoken, good guy, whose off court importance will be as great if not greater than his on the court contributions. Really focused on helping others, exactly what the community of Indianapolis needs.

Hicks
06-27-2011, 03:24 PM
And now we play the really, really, really long waiting game.......

Unclebuck
06-27-2011, 03:25 PM
A lineup of Hill, Geroge and Granger is exciting to me. Long, athletic, defensive

Peck
06-27-2011, 03:31 PM
A lineup of Hill, Geroge and Granger is exciting to me. Long, athletic, defensive

Is it as good to you as the defensive lineup of O'Neal, Artest & Jackson?

Pacerfan
06-27-2011, 03:37 PM
Is it as good to you as the defensive lineup of O'Neal, Artest & Jackson?

I know you asked Unclebuck but I wanted to chime in. I don't think it's as good as O'Neal, Artest, and Jackson for the sole reason that we're still missing that defensive inside presence. Even if the guy got past Artest or Jackson, O'Neal was waiting to stop them inside. Now if we got a good defensive presence inside I would be willing to think about comparing them. Man, that really makes me want to get Dwight... this team would be so good with him. Orlando basically had nothing and Dwight...how good could this team be with Dwight. Alas, I know that is just a dream :cry:

Unclebuck
06-27-2011, 03:38 PM
Is it as good to you as the defensive lineup of O'Neal, Artest & Jackson?


Probably not because JO is a big guy, but by any measure Hill, George and Granger are more stable players.

I think a more interesting question is this, a backcourt of George and George is our best defensive backcourt since who? Maybe Sobers and Davis. (I know most of you have no idea who they are)

dohman
06-27-2011, 03:42 PM
Is it as good to you as the defensive lineup of O'Neal, Artest & Jackson?


Those three were something special to watch on the defensive end. Those were the days when NO one wanted to match up with artest. I would say JO is better than all three of the guys listed defensively at the time, and I would say he was the worst player of those three.

Man I miss those days.

A.B.Hollywood
06-27-2011, 03:44 PM
Anyone have a link where I can see this after the fact? I missed the Live Stream and now that link/video is dead. I'd love to see how he came across.

aero
06-27-2011, 03:48 PM
Anyone have a link where I can see this after the fact? I missed the Live Stream and now that link/video is dead. I'd love to see how he came across.

It should be up on Pacers.com shortly.

Unclebuck
06-27-2011, 04:02 PM
Here is a really good article on George Hill. I especially liked the defensive stuff .

Keep in mind this article was from a year ago, right before the 2010 playoffs.

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/from-popovichs-favorite-player-to-the-nbas-most-improved-george-hill-is-invaluable-to-the-spurs-playoff-hopes

From Popovich’s “favorite player”, to the NBA’s most improved, George Hill is invaluable to the Spurs playoff hopes


by Jesse Blanchard (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/author/jesse-blanchard)




Outside of New York, perhaps no place on Earth has as rich and extensive a basketball mythology as the state of Indiana.



In perhaps one of the most famous accounts, the film “Hoosiers”, before a tournament game fictional Hickory high school coach Norman Dale has his players measure off the height of a rim and the distance of the foul line at 10 and 15 feet.


Regardless of atmosphere or circumstance, basketball is a game played within the confines of the same measurements (give or take a few variances depending on the league). It is the players themselves that shrink or grow in the moment.


When San Antonio Spurs point guard George Hill (an Indiana native) returns to the American Airlines Center for the first round of the NBA Playoffs, the court and its dimensions will remain as they were in last year’s playoffs. It will be George Hill who has changed.



At this time a year ago, Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich proclaimed Hill not quite ready for the playoffs, having seen the then rookie guard out of IUPUI’s confidence fluctuating. As Popovich told Jeff McDonald of the Express-News:


“Playoffs is a time for people who feel very confident about what they’re doing, and George isn’t in that category yet. He needs more time.”



Given a summer and list of things to improve upon, Hill spent hours in the gym honing his skills in preparation for this–an opportunity to prove himself in a playoff rematch with the Dallas Mavericks.



“Not really getting a chance to prove myself last year, that put a fuel to my fire in the summertime,” Hill said. “I wanted to come back a whole new player.”




Hill returned to his teammates in training camp as quite possibly the NBA’s most improved player this season.




There are players whose increased minutes and shot attempts (Aaron Brooks) led to larger production, and young All-Stars (Kevin Durant) whose natural development brought them to superstar status, but perhaps no player refined and developed his skill set more than Hill.




Shooting

The top priority on George Hill’s summertime list was shooting. For all the defensive versatility and athleticism Hill brought to the court, it was offset by an inability to convert on open shots–a requisite skill for anyone hoping to log heavy minutes next to Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.





“He was a scorer more than a shooter but he and (Spurs assistant coach Chip Engelland) have worked hard at it,” Popovich said. “He’s put in the time and now he’s become quite good at it.”




It would appear, more so than Richard Jefferson or Antonio McDyess, that the biggest story of the offseason was the acquisition of George Hill’s jump shot. Something I’ve previously noted (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/07/george-hill-and-the-clippers-game/):




“Oh, what wonders one summer with Chip Engelland can do. It may be a small sample size, but judging by the blistering shooting percentages, George Hill can shoot. From deep. Especially from the corner. Now, a lot of attention will be paid to his development as a point guard, and rightfully so. Hill finally looks comfortable there. But the most important development for him, so far as his future with the Spurs is concerned, is his jump shot.



You see, if Hill is to carve out more than cameo appearances in meaningful games it will have to be as more than a backup point guard because there’s no way you’re limiting Tony Parker’s minutes come Spring and Summer. So if Hill is going to be an impact as a Spurs player he needs to be able to play beside Parker rather than replacing him. For years the only prerequisite for that, at least offensively, is the corner three.”



George Hill has hit that corner three-pointer, with a few sprinkled in from other locations, to the tune of 40 percent, which is a drastic improvement from the 33 percent he shot last season.


And it’s not just the stand-still three pointer. Hill has developed an assortment of shots–floaters, pull-ups off the dribble, coming off screens–that have opened entirely new possibilities to his game. According to Hoopdata.com, George Hill has dramatically increased (http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=George%20Hill) his efficiency from every spot on the court.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>“I always saw a lot of potential in him,” Spurs guard Manu Ginobili said. “So when I saw him come in this year being more aggressive and a lot more reliable with those shots, it was a great surprise.”


Defense
In a way, the addition of George Hill as an offensive threat has bolstered the Spurs defense. No longer a liability on offense, Hill is now able to play extended minutes (from roughly 17 a game last year to 30 this year), which is important for San Antonio as he is possibly their best and most versatile defender.


A year ago, Hill’s defense was more versatile than dominating. While not truly a defensive force, he proved capable at guarding multiple positions. While still crossmatched onto the opponents premiere perimeter player many nights this year, Hill’s defense has grown more consistent. Especially at the point guard slot, where ESPN’s John Hollinger has George Hill ranked as the second best defensive point guard in the league: (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-100406)

He’s a combo guard who owns freakishly long arms that he’s learning to use to great effect at the defensive end, but Hill’s numbers suffer a bit because he was so often used as a stopper at the 2. He can defend that spot capably but at 6-3 gives up some inches.


It’s at the 1 where Hill is a real defensive force, which is one reason San Antonio has held up so well in Tony Parker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1015)‘s absence.



George Hill has had several signature moments throughout this season, like when he recorded five steals and stifled Rockets point guard Aaron Brooks in the second half of a win over Houston. (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/03/31/san-antonio-spurs-119-houston-rockets-102/) Or his defensive gem over Chris Paul that prompted Jeff McDonald of the Express-News to write:

If there was still doubt about whether Hill belonged in the NBA — and there wasn’t — his performance Monday answered it. Thrust into the starting lineup with Richard Jefferson ailing, Hill scored 16 points in the Spurs’ 97-90 victory over the Hornets, a number secondary to the unquantifiable damage he wreaked defending Paul.


That damage mostly goes unquantifiable, with the Spurs molding Hill in the image of Bruce Bowen–a sound defender who is more concerned with making an opponent work than gambling for steals.



“Good defenders and people who get steals are not always synonymous, they’re two different things,” Popovich said. “Some steal guys are poor defenders as far as team defense because they’re rogue defenders.


“His steals come mostly out of being a basically sound defender,” Popovich added. “He’ll have those nights because of his length, arms and instincts, but I don’t think of him like a steals guy like you think of Chris Paul of Allen Iverson.”


Point Guard
A starter for defensive purposes, Popovich has been mindful to keep Hill paired at nearly all times with either Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, keeping the playmaking burdens out of Hill’s hands while he adjusts to a point guard position he has never played before.





Hill has increased his scoring average from 5.7 to 12.4 ppg, but is assisted on 53 percent of his baskets with only a slight uptick in assists (1.8 to 2.9). This suggests that while an improved overall game, Hill still struggles to create shots for himself or teammates.

Something that is explained by Hill’s lack of experience with the ball in his hands.
“He’s getting better and better at playing the pick and roll and doing some things off the dribble for himself and his teammates, but it’s been an education for him ever since we started summer league (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/summer-league) two years ago,” Popovich explained. “He wasn’t a point guard, so all the nuances of pick and roll and what’s available is an experience that will take more time for him to perfect.





“So when you watch him play you see a little ‘one’ and a little ‘two’, he’s definitely a combo guard.”




That’s not to say Hill hasn’t made strides in this area. Ginobili, who works with Hill on reading certain defenses, points out how quickly Hill has picked up on things like what to do when defenses blitz the pick and roll, forcing the ball handler away from the action.




Where before Hill only looked for the roller or made a harmless pass to the wing, Ginobili says Hill now looks to the weak side, which is usually open.




“Every time I see something, I don’t want to be a pain in the ***, but I try and communicate it with him,” Ginobili said. “He’s a great kid and he listens a lot.”




Last season, George Hill’s confidence fluctuated with his changing roles. Now given an opportunity to log heavy minutes, Ginobili expects his teammates game and confidence to grow here as well.




“It’s about maturity and confidence. The fact that he knows he’s going to play 40 minutes now, it really changes your head,” Ginobili said. “If you screw up a couple times, you know you’re going to have another chance, so you play more freely–that’s when it turned for me.”

DrFife
06-27-2011, 04:33 PM
"Outside of New York...." :hmm:

Sheesh! Just because they have five times our population....

SMosley21
06-27-2011, 04:37 PM
Here are a few pics from the presser. Taken from my phone...

http://i54.tinypic.com/xduv0h.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2642ohc.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/i4jtle.jpg

SMosley21
06-27-2011, 04:41 PM
“Every time I see something, I don’t want to be a pain in the ***, but I try and communicate it with him,” Ginobili said. “He’s a great kid and he listens a lot.”

Last season, George Hill’s confidence fluctuated with his changing roles. Now given an opportunity to log heavy minutes, Ginobili expects his teammates game and confidence to grow here as well.

“It’s about maturity and confidence. The fact that he knows he’s going to play 40 minutes now, it really changes your head,” Ginobili said. “If you screw up a couple times, you know you’re going to have another chance, so you play more freely–that’s when it turned for me.”

I wish more people around here understood concepts such as this.

ChristianDudley
06-27-2011, 04:44 PM
To anybody that went today--did George Hill sign at all for the fans? I know he's great about signing, but I was just wondering. Thanks in advance!

90'sNBARocked
06-27-2011, 04:45 PM
And now we play the really, really, really long waiting game.......

Isnt that the darn truth!

It just figures after ALL THE BS we have had to endurte for YEARS

We finally make real progress ......and now its an impending lockout

Is God mad at The Simons? Indianapolis? The Pacers?

seriously though it is ironic and a bit dejecting

SMosley21
06-27-2011, 04:46 PM
To anybody that went today--did George Hill sign at all for the fans? I know he's great about signing, but I was just wondering. Thanks in advance!

I know that there was a pretty big group waiting for him to finish doing interviews and security wasn't telling them to go away or anything. I was going to have him sign the newspaper ad from yesterday's Star, but didn't want to wait around.

troyc11a
06-27-2011, 04:46 PM
Probably not because JO is a big guy, but by any measure Hill, George and Granger are more stable players.

I think a more interesting question is this, a backcourt of George and George is our best defensive backcourt since who? Maybe Sobers and Davis. (I know most of you have no idea who they are)

Johnny Davis and Ricky Sobers. Way back to the telethon days!

Unclebuck
06-27-2011, 04:47 PM
Here are a few pics from the presser. Taken from my phone...

http://i54.tinypic.com/xduv0h.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2642ohc.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/i4jtle.jpg


wow in the first one George looks like a 3 year old sitting next to his daddy

The Sleeze
06-27-2011, 04:50 PM
The video of the press conference is up on Pacers.com now.

Scot Pollard
06-27-2011, 04:53 PM
I was there, but stood in the back.

First off I couldn't be any happier FOR George to be back home close to his family and to play for the team he's always wanted to play for.

A lot of it was overwhelming for him, but you can tell he is beyond happy to be here.

I can't wait for next season. We have a whole new chapter going forward now and the fans, casual to diehard know this is a special team and we just got a special player.

The Fieldhouse will be the place to be again. Nice crowds and a good young team taking the floor.

ChristianDudley
06-27-2011, 04:56 PM
I know that there was a pretty big group waiting for him to finish doing interviews and security wasn't telling them to go away or anything. I was going to have him sign the newspaper ad from yesterday's Star, but didn't want to wait around.

Yeah I've always seen him be a very willing person to sign for people, no matter how many items they have to be signed, too. Cool item that newspaper would be once signed.

Peck
06-27-2011, 04:56 PM
I don't know about anybody else but that guys shirt that says "ball above all" is just brilliant.

Granville
06-27-2011, 05:32 PM
I think a more interesting question is this, a backcourt of George and George is our best defensive backcourt since who? Maybe Sobers and Davis. (I know most of you have no idea who they are)

I don't think Davis and Sobers played together. In fact, I think they were traded for each other.

Unclebuck
06-27-2011, 05:34 PM
I don't think Davis and Sobers played together. In fact, I think they were traded for each other.


I was pretty young at the time, but I remember listening to Bob Lamey and I used to always think it was Ricky Silvers.

here is a little blurb from Pacers.com
http://www.nba.com/pacers/history/franchise_history.html#6
1977-80: A Ton Of Transactions

Before the 1977-78 campaign the Pacers traded away their two All-Stars from the previous season. Knight went to the Buffalo Braves in exchange for Adrian Dantley and Mike Bantom. Buse was sent to the Phoenix Suns for Ricky Sobers. The 1977-78 team slid to 31-51, including a 2-15 stretch beginning in mid-January. Dantley was averaging 26.5 points when he was traded with Dave Robisch to the Los Angeles Lakers in December for James Edwards, Earl Tatum, and cash. John Williamson, the team's No. 2 scorer with 19.1 points per game, was traded to the New Jersey Nets in January for Bob Carrington, who was out of the league the next season. Of the players who remained with the team, Ricky Sobers was the top scorer, with 18.2 points per game. Five other Pacers also averaged in double figures. Dan Roundfield emerged as a rugged rebounder, pulling down 802 boards for a 10.2 average.
In 1978-79 slight improvement elevated the team's record to 38-44. The Pacers' lineup continued to change, as Roundfield departed to the Atlanta Hawks via free agency and Billy Knight, by then in Boston, was brought back at midseason in exchange for Rick Robey. Johnny Davis, a 6-1 guard, led the team in scoring with 18.3 points per game. Sobers, Edwards, Alex English, Bantom, and Knight all averaged 14.7 points or better. At the end of the season California millionaire Sam Nassi purchased the Pacers.
The following season Indiana struggled to a 37-45 mark. The 1979-80 Pacers tried to recapture some of their former glory by acquiring George McGinnis from Denver for English and a first-round draft pick. But McGinnis's career was nearly over (he would play two more seasons), while English's was just starting-at Denver he would become one of the greatest offensive players of the era.

A.B.Hollywood
06-27-2011, 05:34 PM
The more I hear this man talk the more impressed I am.

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 05:37 PM
Davis and Sobers played a couple of seasons together.

Or what UB said.

Peck
06-27-2011, 05:57 PM
I don't think Davis and Sobers played together. In fact, I think they were traded for each other.

No they difinately played with each other here, that was my favorite back court of all time until Jackson & Miller

Granville
06-27-2011, 06:02 PM
No they difinately played with each other here, that was my favorite back court of all time until Jackson & Miller

I knew they traded Buse for Sobers but had it in my head that they traded Sobers for Davis (obviously not). Did the Pacers trade Sobers or did he leave as a free agent? I've got it in my head he went to the Bulls, but now I'm doubting my memory! Btw, I had a Sobers poster on my bedroom wall.

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 06:24 PM
I knew they traded Buse for Sobers but had it in my head that they traded Sobers for Davis (obviously not). Did the Pacers trade Sobers or did he leave as a free agent? I've got it in my head he went to the Bulls, but now I'm doubting my memory! Btw, I had a Sobers poster on my bedroom wall.

He went to the Bulls as compensation for the Pacers signing one of their FAs (Mickey Johnson).

btw, this is a godsend. Or a basketball stat junkie's greatest dream.:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/

Sandman21
06-27-2011, 09:24 PM
BTW, The Pacers have George up on Pacers Crate now.

3town
06-27-2011, 09:43 PM
i have a question. I've been stationed overseas for a few years now, and havent been more excited bout Pacers basketball in a long time. Is George the first pure bread Indiana player to play with the Pacers since Bailey did back in the 90's?

pacer4ever
06-27-2011, 10:27 PM
i have a question. I've been stationed overseas for a few years now, and havent been more excited bout Pacers basketball in a long time. Is George the first pure bread Indiana player to play with the Pacers since Bailey did back in the 90's?

Josh Mcroberts

sopgy
06-27-2011, 10:34 PM
It was funny how he mentioned they are making him feel old.

It does kind of seem that people have this view of him as this veteran who has played for 3 years, just like Hibbert and Rush.

I will say Hill does seem like he is willing to embrace a bigger role, and Pop was always trying to get him to take over.

thatch3232
06-28-2011, 11:49 PM
Me and my friends are in the pacers.com video for the press conference, right at the 13 min. mark! lol sooo cool.


*We're the ones all wearing gold haha

Tom White
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
i have a question. I've been stationed overseas for a few years now, and havent been more excited bout Pacers basketball in a long time. Is George the first pure bread Indiana player to play with the Pacers since Bailey did back in the 90's?

I don't know that Bailey actually ever suited up for the Pacers.

ECKrueger
06-29-2011, 02:03 PM
i have a question. I've been stationed overseas for a few years now, and havent been more excited bout Pacers basketball in a long time. Is George the first pure bread Indiana player to play with the Pacers since Bailey did back in the 90's?

I don't know that there is such thing as a pure bread player period.

pacer4ever
07-01-2011, 08:44 AM
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/CT625/NBA/hillpacers3.jpg


maybe a nice avatar?

317Kim
07-01-2011, 09:47 AM
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/CT625/NBA/hillpacers3.jpg

maybe a nice avatar?

Very nice. :)

George started a new blog (http://www.indianageorge3.blogspot.com/) this morning if anyone is interested. First entry is titled "Trade for Change".

Trader Joe
07-01-2011, 10:56 AM
Josh Mcroberts

Played college ball at Duke. Pure bred IMO would be high school and college.

pacer4ever
07-19-2011, 05:01 PM
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