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ensergio
06-23-2011, 05:55 PM
Anybody has access to Insider?

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-110623

notque
06-23-2011, 05:57 PM
1. Irving
2. D Williams
3. Enes Kanter
4. Jonas V
5. B Knight
6. J Vesley
7. T. Thompson
8. Bismack (Sources say he has buyout issues)
9. K. Leonard
10. Jimmer!
11. Klay Thompson
12. Kemba Walker
13. Markieff Morris
14. Nikola Vucevic
15. Alec Burks

Hibbert
06-23-2011, 05:57 PM
Anybody has access to Insider?

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-110623

It has us selecting Alec Burks!

BrazUNC
06-23-2011, 06:02 PM
Can someone copy paste it, I gotta see it all

Pacersalltheway10
06-23-2011, 06:03 PM
So it comes down too Burks, Singleton, Brooks . I am definetly OK with that group as opposed to Klay, Jimmer, and Markief

Speed
06-23-2011, 06:04 PM
So it comes down too Burks, Singleton, Brooks . I am definetly OK with that group as opposed to Klay, Jimmer, and Markief

And Marcus Morris, I would guess.

CableKC
06-23-2011, 06:06 PM
I really wish we'd take Singleton....as I mentioned before....we want smashmouth Basketball?

Singleton's defense would be the very definition of that. He'd hound the Players that Danny can't.

Pacersalltheway10
06-23-2011, 06:09 PM
Singleton ( without really looking in depth into him) sounds like Gerald Wallace, no?

Dr. Awesome
06-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Bobcats getting Thompson and Leonard would be awesome.

BrazUNC
06-23-2011, 06:14 PM
Can someone copy an paste the whole first round please? Like actually copy and paste it.

Really?
06-23-2011, 06:40 PM
Bulls have made a trade with the Charlotte and plan on taking Brooks....

This could turn out as a horrible draft for us if we take the wrong 2guard and Chicago gets the one that turns out to be something... that would hurt... badly

Pacersalltheway10
06-23-2011, 06:43 PM
I cant find anything that says the Bulls and Bobcats have made a trade?

Really?
06-23-2011, 06:43 PM
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: I know some uncertainty is still out there. There always is. But all signs continue to point to Irving as the No. 1 pick. He has a chance to be special, and in this draft, that makes him worthy of going this high.

The Cavs may not love what's left for them at No. 4, but at least they walk away feeling that they got the best player in the draft.



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Minnesota


Derrick Williams

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona
Analysis: The Wolves will work the phones until the last minute looking for a trade. If they keep the pick? They are considering Enes Kanter and started telling teams around the league on Wednesday that they're leaning in that direction.

I can see the appeal of Kanter. He probably fits a need more. But Williams is the second-best talent in this draft, and I think talent ultimately trumps need, so they'll take Williams and sort it out later this summer.


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Utah
(via New Jersey)


Enes Kanter

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey
Analysis: GM Kevin O'Connor is now issuing his famous "no comment" when asked about what the Jazz will do here. They are one of the most tight-lipped teams in the league. They aren't leaking who they'll take at No. 3.

So why did I change this from Brandon Knight to Kanter? Because it's hard to get legit centers in the league, especially ones with Kanter's upside. So are point guards, which is why Knight could be the pick. But as of very early Thursday, I think the Jazz will go with size and upside with Kanter.



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Cleveland


Jonas Valanciunas

Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 245
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: We had Valanciunas in this position last week. But on Monday we reported that Valanciunas' buyout with his team in Lithuania would prohibit him from coming to the NBA next season.

The Cavs love Valanciunas, but do they love him enough to draft him even if he won't play in the NBA right away? There are growing signals that they do. Valanciunas was in Cleveland on Tuesday meeting with Cavs brass. They conducted a physical and a workout as well, which has seemingly calmed their fears.

But another serious dark horse here is Tristan Thompson. As I reported on Wednesday, Thompson met with owner Dan Gilbert in Cleveland on Monday, and the Cavs are intrigued. As I gather more info, this is one spot where the mock could change in Version 7.1.


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Toronto

Brandon Knight

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: GM Bryan Colangelo has been looking for defensive help, and I had been hearing during the past 24 hours that Bismack Biyombo and Kawhi Leonard had risen on the Raptors' board. But if Knight slides this far, I don't think they'll pass.

Knight has tremendous upside, is a good defender in his own right and, alongside DeMar DeRozan, would give the Raptors an intriguing young backcourt.


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Washington

Jan Vesely

Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic
Analysis: The Wizards need rebounding and would love it if Kanter was still on the board. They've also been huge fans of Vesely and would jump at the chance to take him here. His ability to run the floor would be a welcome fit alongside John Wall and JaVale McGee.

Tristan Thompson is the other player to watch here. The Wizards need help on the boards, and Thompson is one of the best offensive rebounders in the draft.



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Charlotte
(via Sacramento)

Tristan Thompson

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas
(Sources: Kings trade No. 7 pick to Bobcats)

Analysis: The Bobcats made the first big move of the draft Thursday when they pulled the trigger on a three-team trade that nabbed them Corey Maggette and this pick for Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston and the No. 19 pick.

I've heard they want Thompson here. But Michael Jordan did become enamored with Bismack Biyombo at a workout in Charlotte on Wednesday. I'm leaning Thompson here, but will keep digging.



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Detroit

Bismack Biyombo

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo
Analysis: The Pistons have been leaning toward Thompson. But if he's not on the board, I think their next two options are to select Bismack Biyombo or to trade down in the draft.

For now, I'm putting Biyombo here, partly as a placeholder. He has serious upside as an elite defender, and the Pistons have experience with a similar big man, Ben Wallace. Biyombo should be a good fit next to Greg Monroe.



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Charlotte

Kawhi Leonard

Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State
Analysis: The Bobcats will be thrilled if Leonard is still on the board here. Although Leonard isn't the same player as Gerald Wallace, he brings much of the same intensity. Bismack Biyombo also could be an option here, as well as Chris Singleton and Alec Burks.



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Sacramento
(via Milwaukee)

Jimmer Fredette

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young
(Sources: Bucks trade No. 10 pick to Kings)

Analysis: When we first reported a few weeks ago that the Kings were looking seriously at Fredette, there were mostly chuckles. But it now appears to be very close to reality. With Beno Udrih gone, it becomes even more likely that the Kings will go with a point guard. Kemba Walker is another possibility here, but his lack of shooting ability -- in the absence of Udrih -- tilts things toward Jimmer.



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Golden State

Klay Thompson

Position: SG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington State
Analysis: The Warriors would be thrilled with this outcome. They've been concerned that Thompson won't be on the board when they pick. They've been high on him for weeks and feel as if he would bring them another big-time shooter to play alongside Stephen Curry and/or Monta Ellis. Chris Singleton is also a serious prospect to go here.



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Utah

Kemba Walker

Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn
Analysis: Whewwww. I think the Jazz were leaning toward not taking Jimmer Fredette at No. 12. If he's gone, that saves them some serious backlash in Utah. The Jazz were seriously considering Walker at No. 3. If he falls here, I don't think they'll pass on him.

Alec Burks also could be a possibility. I'm told they spent some serious time looking at him in the past 48 hours.



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Phoenix

Markieff Morris

Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: I had Marcus Morris here in Mock 7.0, but I'm now hearing it's his brother, Markieff, who is higher on the Suns' board. Earlier this year, I wrote that some teams prefer Markieff to Marcus even though Marcus is more skilled.

Markieff has better size and is a better rebounder and shot-blocker. Meanwhile, Marcus is getting pegged as a tweener right now, which may cause him to slide. Iman Shumpert is also strongly in the mix here.



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Houston

Nikola Vucevic

Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC
Analysis: The Rockets are talking to everyone -- and I mean everyone -- about moving up in the draft. Everyone from the Wolves at 2 to the Warriors at 11 have heard the pitch. I think someone ultimately will bite, and I think it could be Detroit.

But if not, the Rockets are likely to reach a little bit for some size in the paint. They are desperate for it, and Vucevic is the biggest man in the draft. Chris Singleton and Markieff Morris are also options.



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Indiana


Alec Burks

Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado
Analysis: Under this scenario, the Pacers' three biggest targets (Jimmer Fredette, Klay Thompson and Markieff Morris) are all gone. Burks didn't work out for the Pacers, but they've done their homework. He's probably the best talent left on the board, even if he does duplicate Paul George to a certain extent.

Marcus Morris, Chris Singleton and Marshon Brooks would also get looks here.



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Philadelphia


Jordan Hamilton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas
Analysis: The Sixers need size, but with Thompson, Vucevic and Morris all off the board, the only other big man worth taking here is Kenneth Faried. If Faried were a bit bigger, I think they'd do it. Instead, I think the Sixers will prepare for the inevitable trade of Andre Iguodala.

It may not come on draft night, but most believe it will happen sometime before the season, and that's why Hamilton is the pick. Donatas Motiejunas is another possibility here.



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New York


Chris Singleton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State
Analysis: The Knicks have a bunch of scorers. What they really need are defenders. Singleton will get looks as high as No. 9 to the Bobcats, but I doubt he will slide any further than here. Not only is he the best defender in the draft, but he also has potential to be a spot-up 3-point shooter.

Iman Shumpert, Alec Burks and Marshon Brooks are also in the mix here.



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Washington
(via Atlanta)


Marcus Morris

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: This would be a major slide for Marcus. But his insistence that he's not really a power forward has hurt his stock a bit. Teams don't believe he can be a 3 and now see him as somewhat of a tweener.

Still, at this point, he's a good value and could play some 3 and some 4 in Washington.



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Milwaukee
(via Charlotte)


Marshon Brooks

Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence
(Sources: Bobcats trade No. 19 pick to Bucks)

Analysis: The Bucks want scoring and are looking for another wing now that John Salmons is gone. Brooks was one of the best scorers in college basketball and wouldn't be a huge risk at No. 19. He could be a steal for Milwaukee here.



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Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Iman Shumpert

Position: PG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 221
Age: 20
College: Georgia Tech
Analysis: The Wolves added some serious offensive pop with the arrival of Ricky Rubio and, in this mock, Derrick Williams. Shumpert would give them a major defensive presence in their backcourt.

Although he's not the most offensively gifted player in the draft, his ability to guard both backcourt positions combined with his elite athleticism make him an interesting choice at No. 20.



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Portland


Kenneth Faried

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State
Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him. His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style.

Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Iman Shumpert and Reggie Jackson are others to watch.



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Denver


Tobias Harris

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee
Analysis: I guess we can't call Harris one of the more underrated players in the draft when he hasn't moved off 22 in any of our mocks. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft.

Iman Shumpert, Chandler Parsons and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.


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Houston
(via Orlando)


Donatas Motiejunas

Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: At this point in the draft, you quit worrying about draft needs and you draft according to talent. Motiejunas is a major talent. He's got flaws, but at No. 23, you live with them. If the Rockets don't trade the pick away, Jimmy Butler is a possibility here, as is Darius Morris.



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Oklahoma City


Kyle Singler

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 23
College: Duke
Analysis: I don't have Singler rated as a top-30 prospect. But I might be mistaken. A source said the Thunder are very high on Singler and believe he could be an Andres Nocioni-type player in the NBA.

He is tough, has a good motor and will be able to knock down open shots. If he plays that role in the NBA, he's well worth the 24th pick. Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler and Nikola Mirotic are other possibilities here.



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Boston


Jimmy Butler

Position: G/F
Height: 6-8
Weight: 222
Age: 21
School: Marquette
Analysis: If the Celtics are going to keep competing for a title, they need players who know their roles, can play without the ball in their hands and meld in. Butler brings toughness, defense and heart.

Butler epitomizes that approach with his game and would be a great fit with the Celtics as a player who can play multiple positions off the bench. Reggie Jackson is another strong possibility here, as is Norris Cole.


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Dallas


Nikola Mirotic

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia
Analysis: The Mavs likely will stay primarily a veteran team. So they'll work to add value wherever they can. Mirotic is a talented player who would go 10 spots higher if he weren't stuck in Europe the next two or three years with a difficult contract to escape.

But the Mavs can afford to be patient with a talent like this and hope that in a few years, he'll be ready to step in and play right away.



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New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College
Analysis: Jackson hasn't done any workouts, has a knee injury and isn't sharing his medical records. Why would the Nets take a player like that? Well, they, along with a lot of NBA teams, believe that another team has shut down Jackson's workouts with a promise to draft him.

That shouldn't stop the Nets from grabbing Jackson anyway. Yes, they have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and could play off the ball in certain situations.

If Jackson hadn't suffered a knee injury just as the draft prep began, he could have gone much higher. Norris Cole, Justin Harper, Josh Selby and Chandler Parsons also are possibilities.



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Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond
Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need perimeter shooting, and Harper should be able to give them some.

Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are also possibilities.



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San Antonio


Davis Bertans

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia
Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready.

Bertans showed he can be a big-time shooter at the Nike Hoop Summit and adidas Eurocamp, and he's only 18 years old. So it's worth taking a flier on him and seeing what he can accomplish after another year or two in Europe.



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Chicago


Nolan Smith

Position: SG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 188
Age: 22
School: Duke
Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Smith isn't the sort of player who really wows you with one thing. But he's a winner, he's versatile and he's been a solid shooter in college. He's a perfect backup guard.