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Justin Tyme
06-22-2011, 08:33 PM
There are some surprises!!

#2 Kanter
#3 Williams
#7 Fredette...YES!
#18 Burks
#19 Brooks

PACERS take MARCUS MORRIS & Try Thompkins.

If anyone can post the whole draft for everyone to see, I'm sure it will be appreciated by all.

Hicks
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
1
From
Clippers Kyrie Irving PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 190 lbs.
Duke, Freshman

2 Enes Kanter C
19 years old; 6'11"; 260 lbs.
Kentucky, International

3
From
Nets Derrick Williams PF
20 years old; 6'9"; 250 lbs.
Arizona, Sophomore

4 Jonas Valanciunas C
19 years old; 6'11"; 240 lbs.
Lietuvos Rytas, International

5 Brandon Knight PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

6 Jan Vesely SF
21 years old; 6'11"; 240 lbs.
KK Partizan Belgrade, International

7 Jimmer Fredette PG
22 years old; 6'2"; 195 lbs.
BYU, Senior

8 Bismack Biyombo PF/C
18 years old; 6'9"; 240 lbs.
Baloncesto Fuenlabrada, International

9 Kawhi Leonard SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 225 lbs.
San Diego State, Sophomore

10 Klay Thompson SG/SF
21 years old; 6'7"; 205 lbs.
Washington State, Junior

11 Kemba Walker PG
21 years old; 6'1"; 185 lbs.
Connecticut, Junior

12 Chris Singleton SF
21 years old; 6'9"; 230 lbs.
Florida State, Junior

13 Tristan Thompson PF
20 years old; 6'9"; 230 lbs.
Texas, Freshman

14 Donatas Motiejunas PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 215 lbs.
Benetton Treviso, International

15 Marcus Morris PF
21 years old; 6'9"; 230 lbs.
Kansas, Junior

16 Nikola Vucevic PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 260 lbs.
USC, Junior

17 Markieff Morris PF
21 years old; 6'10"; 240 lbs.
Kansas, Junior

18
From
Hawks Alec Burks SG
19 years old; 6'6"; 195 lbs.
Colorado, Sophomore

19
From
Hornets Marshon Brooks SG
22 years old; 6'5"; 195 lbs.
Providence, Senior

20
From
Grizzlies Jordan Hamilton SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 230 lbs.
Texas, Sophomore

21 Kenneth Faried PF
21 years old; 6'8"; 225 lbs.
Morehead State, Senior

22 Tobias Harris SF/PF
18 years old; 6'8"; 225 lbs.
Tennessee, Freshman

23
From
Magic Iman Shumpert PG/SG
20 years old; 6'6"; 220 lbs.
Georgia Tech, Junior

24 Kyle Singler SF/PF
23 years old; 6'9"; 225 lbs.
Duke, Senior

25 Tyler Honeycutt SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Sophomore

26 Davis Bertans SF
18 years old; 6'10"; 210 lbs.
Union Olimpija Ljubljana, International

27
From
Lakers Chandler Parsons SF
22 years old; 6'10"; 220 lbs.
Florida, Senior

28
From
Heat Justin Harper PF
21 years old; 6'9"; 230 lbs.
Richmond, Senior

29 Nikola Mirotic PF
20 years old; 6'10"; 210 lbs.
Real Madrid, International

30 Travis Leslie SF
21 years old; 6'4"; 205 lbs.
Georgia, Junior

Justin Tyme
06-22-2011, 08:54 PM
I hope Bird has someone else in mind to draft and not Marcus Morris. I just don't see Morris as better than Brooks or Burks.

vnzla81
06-22-2011, 08:56 PM
I hope Bird has someone else in mind to draft and not Marcus Morris. I just don't see Morris as better than Brooks or Burks.

He is pretty good, I'll be happy with him.

wseward
06-22-2011, 08:56 PM
Regarding Marcus I am not that excited about a tweener 3/4. I want an athletic specimen at the 4, not some player who is going to jack up 3's and get handled down low, that is what Troy Murphy was for.

Pacersalltheway10
06-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Burn up the phones to try and get that #3 pick or Favors from the Jazz. They said no one on their roster is untouchable.

Really?
06-22-2011, 09:10 PM
These mocks are starting to become way too much, lol I think most people try to change them around with weird combinations to try to get them talked about, lol...

I think the most interesting part is the second round players and some late first, just to see who most people think will still be available during that time, but as far as the top I'm starting to think a lot of it is a joke...

Really?
06-22-2011, 09:11 PM
I take that back, the most interesting thing is the analysis of the teams picks as well as the analysis of the players, that what matters more than the actual placement of the picks...

Psyren
06-22-2011, 09:13 PM
I don't want either of the Morris twins.

I think both are good players, but I don't think either is/will be better than Tyler.

If we're going big, I'd rather try for Tristan Thompson.

Sparhawk
06-22-2011, 09:15 PM
I would definitely try to get Favors, just not sure we'd have enough to get him.

If Derrick Williams is there at 3, I'd try to make a trade. Jazz seem like a good trade partner for the Pacers as opposed to Kahn and the freakin Wolves.

Kegboy
06-22-2011, 09:17 PM
I think the only pick that would make me really unhappy is Marcus Morris, outside of doing something monumentally stupid like taking Singler at 15, of course.

[edit] Oh, and I've defended Kahn more than a time or two, but if he's stupid enough to take Kanter over Williams the man is a freakin' loon.

Sparhawk
06-22-2011, 09:19 PM
I think the only pick that would make me really unhappy is Marcus Morris, outside of doing something monumentally stupid like taking Singler at 15, of course.

Plus we don't need Marcus. He doesn't rebound or defend well, plus he's a tweener. No Morris twins!

Kegboy
06-22-2011, 09:28 PM
Wow, looks like nbadraft.net just updated as well.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

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</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell113 headers="yui-dt0-th1 " yuiColumnId="1" yuiColumnKey="Team" yuiCellIndex="1"><IMG title="Indiana" alt="Indiana" align=absMiddle src="http://cdn05.duonox.com/files/teams/ind_25_1.gif" width=25 height=25> Indiana

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell114 headers="yui-dt0-th2 " yuiColumnId="2" yuiColumnKey="Player" yuiCellIndex="2">Kemba Walker (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kemba-walker)

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:jawdrop:

ilive4sports
06-22-2011, 09:29 PM
Plus we don't need Marcus. He doesn't rebound or defend well, plus he's a tweener. No Morris twins!

Why no to Markief? He is a legit pf, defends well, is tough, and rebounds. We need all of that badly in our front court.

D-BONE
06-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Which means that nobody really has any idea what's happening in this draft. Sit back and enjoy.

ilive4sports
06-22-2011, 09:31 PM
Wow, looks like nbadraft.net just updated as well.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

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</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell113 headers="yui-dt0-th1 " yuiColumnId="1" yuiColumnKey="Team" yuiCellIndex="1"><IMG title="Indiana" alt="Indiana" align=absMiddle src="http://cdn05.duonox.com/files/teams/ind_25_1.gif" width=25 height=25> Indiana

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell114 headers="yui-dt0-th2 " yuiColumnId="2" yuiColumnKey="Player" yuiCellIndex="2">Kemba Walker (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kemba-walker)

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell115 headers="yui-dt0-th3 " yuiColumnId="3" yuiColumnKey="H" yuiCellIndex="3">6-1

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell116 headers="yui-dt0-th4 " yuiColumnId="4" yuiColumnKey="W" yuiCellIndex="4">184

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell117 headers="yui-dt0-th5 " yuiColumnId="5" yuiColumnKey="P" yuiCellIndex="5">PG

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell118 headers="yui-dt0-th6 " yuiColumnId="6" yuiColumnKey="School" yuiCellIndex="6">UConn

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:jawdrop:

I can only hope that Kemba falls to us.

Young
06-22-2011, 09:31 PM
Which means that nobody really has any idea what's happening in this draft. Sit back and enjoy.

Yeah I think this is one of the most unpredictable drafts in recent years.

PaceBalls
06-22-2011, 09:34 PM
I wonder what they are basing us taking Kemba off of. Just the BPA? What do you guys think of us getting Kemba? Is he better than DC or AJ?

Sperka07
06-22-2011, 09:38 PM
I wanted to get your guys opinions on Jordan Hamilton, I feel he could be a consistent scorer of the bench at the wing position, which we seemed to be missing of the bench once George was inserted into the starting lineup. I looked at the espn analyst rankings & Ford has him 15th on his Big Board, and Bilas has him 9th. While Hollinger's draft rater has him 10th in the draft.

All the mocks I have seen have him going after us around 19 & 20.

What are your guys thoughts about him as a player, and possible pacers pick?

ilive4sports
06-22-2011, 09:38 PM
I wonder what they are basing us taking Kemba off of. Just the BPA? What do you guys think of us getting Kemba? Is he better than DC or AJ?

I think he is better than both. DC would have to go though imo. I was very impressed with kemba this year and to me he is just a guy that can flat out play.

Kegboy
06-22-2011, 09:40 PM
I just noticed that nbadraft.net has Thompkins going 25th to Boston, as opposed to 42 for us according to DE. Man, nobody knows what the F is gonna happen, do they?

Kegboy
06-22-2011, 09:42 PM
I wanted to get your guys opinions on Jordan Hamilton

I don't like his attitude, but he's got talent, so I wouldn't be broken up if we got him.

PaceBalls
06-22-2011, 09:42 PM
I think he is better than both. DC would have to go though imo. I was very impressed with kemba this year and to me he is just a guy that can flat out play.

Well, DC can flat out play too. But he also has really bad shortcomings, like not being able to see the floor well or anticipate movement. From the brief time I watched Kemba play, which was the tourney, he seemed like another undersized scorer. I wonder how well he can run a team, not make step back jumpshots... we really need a floor general if we are getting another 6' guy.

PacerGuy
06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
NBADraft.net also has us passing on Biyombo.
I know he is a risk, & a project, but he fits a need & has big upside.

Really?
06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
I think he is better than both. DC would have to go though imo. I was very impressed with kemba this year and to me he is just a guy that can flat out play.

Yeah I am thinking he is better than both as far as overall player as far as pg skills I think DC has him, but not AJ...

vnzla81
06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
Well, DC can flat out play too. But he also has really bad shortcomings, like not being able to see the floor well or anticipate movement. From the brief time I watched Kemba play, which was the tourney, he seemed like another undersized scorer. I wonder how well he can run a team, not make step back jumpshots... we really need a floor general if we are getting another 6' guy.

I think he can play point but I'm not sure I won't get to see them playing together.

Really?
06-22-2011, 09:46 PM
NBADraft.net also has us passing on Biyombo.
I know he is a risk, & a project, but he fits a need & has big upside.

How much upside does he really have... I doubt he will ever have a offensive game, people tend to compare him to Ben Wallace and Ben after all his years never gained any offensive game... at all...

I think people are overrating Biyombo's potential... I think people are mesmerized by the foreign product..

Really?
06-22-2011, 09:51 PM
I don't like his attitude, but he's got talent, so I wouldn't be broken up if we got him.

He always seemed super stiff to me, and not aggressive, he seemed to hold back way too much, and only tried to show off his perimeter game. Was more impressed watching Tristan than him when Texas games were on.

Watching his play just rubbed me the wrong way... lol , but I am sure that he is way better than I am giving him credit for just because of all the complements that he has been given

Pacersalltheway10
06-22-2011, 09:54 PM
I think he is better than both. DC would have to go though imo. I was very impressed with kemba this year and to me he is just a guy that can flat out play.

I wonder if the Hawks would accept a Darren Collison, James Posey for Josh Smith deal if that happened.

Kegboy
06-22-2011, 09:56 PM
He always seemed super stiff to me, and not aggressive, he seemed to hold back way too much, and only tried to show off his perimeter game. Was more impressed watching Tristan than him when Texas games were on.

Watching his play just rubbed me the wrong way...

I agree.

Hicks
06-22-2011, 10:08 PM
Wow, looks like nbadraft.net just updated as well.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

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</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell113 headers="yui-dt0-th1 " yuiColumnId="1" yuiColumnKey="Team" yuiCellIndex="1"><IMG title="Indiana" alt="Indiana" align=absMiddle src="http://cdn05.duonox.com/files/teams/ind_25_1.gif" width=25 height=25> Indiana

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell114 headers="yui-dt0-th2 " yuiColumnId="2" yuiColumnKey="Player" yuiCellIndex="2">Kemba Walker (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kemba-walker)

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</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell116 headers="yui-dt0-th4 " yuiColumnId="4" yuiColumnKey="W" yuiCellIndex="4">184

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell117 headers="yui-dt0-th5 " yuiColumnId="5" yuiColumnKey="P" yuiCellIndex="5">PG

</TD><TD id=yui-dt0-bdrow14-cell118 headers="yui-dt0-th6 " yuiColumnId="6" yuiColumnKey="School" yuiCellIndex="6">UConn

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:jawdrop:

Yeah, but it's NBADraft.net.

Psyren
06-22-2011, 10:11 PM
I wonder what they are basing us taking Kemba off of. Just the BPA? What do you guys think of us getting Kemba? Is he better than DC or AJ?

I think Kemba and DC would be a toss up.

Kemba DEFINITELY is better than AJ Price. No question.

Justin Tyme
06-22-2011, 10:16 PM
Kemba DEFINITELY is better than AJ Price. No question.


I'm beginning to wonder if Kemo's Travis Diener isn't better than Price.

Really?
06-22-2011, 10:16 PM
What is up with everyone sleeping on Davis Bertas or whatever his last name is... he may not be lottery but he shouldn't be all the way in the late 20's..

Psyren
06-22-2011, 10:18 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if Kemo's Travis Diener isn't better than Price.

:laugh: Most likely.

In the playoffs, I was practically begging for the return of TJ (As I'm sure a few others were)

Justin Tyme
06-22-2011, 10:20 PM
Ricky Jackson has been dropped out of this mock draft. A training camp invite Bird might want to consider.

DGPR
06-22-2011, 10:22 PM
Kemba would be some very nice offense off of the bench. I would be happy with that pick.

vnzla81
06-22-2011, 10:22 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if Kemo's Travis Diener isn't better than Price.

I'm pretty sure he is.

xBulletproof
06-22-2011, 10:27 PM
Holy cow people are coming around. I told people AJ Price wasn't very good forever ago. Mainly that be was a bad shooter. I got nothing but crap for it.

At the same token however I feel similarly about Kemba. Deja Vu.

Young
06-22-2011, 10:30 PM
I would be happy to see the Pacers draft Kemba Walker. I just never thought he would fall to 15.

He might not ever be better than Darren but he should be a pretty decent point guard at the least. He is small like Collison but brings different things to the court. It is very important to have productive point guards (more than before, IMO) and since the Pacers aren't likely to have an all-star at the point anytime soon having two guys like Collison and Walker would be nice.

CableKC
06-22-2011, 10:33 PM
I wonder what they are basing us taking Kemba off of. Just the BPA? What do you guys think of us getting Kemba? Is he better than DC or AJ?
It's cuz he's the BPA that happens to be the best PG available.

owl
06-22-2011, 10:34 PM
The difference between picks 7 and 20 as far as player quality is very small thus you have this very unsettled draft coming up.

Really?
06-22-2011, 10:35 PM
Holy cow people are coming around. I told people AJ Price wasn't very good forever ago. Mainly that be was a bad shooter. I got nothing but crap for it.

At the same token however I feel similarly about Kemba. Deja Vu.

lol thats the only thing that he is good at what you mean... he knows his game and everyone else does, hitting 3's plus he is a clutch shooter... but thing is overall as a player he isn't that good.

P.S. I said he wasn't good a long time ago as well...

Anthem
06-22-2011, 10:41 PM
Biyombo can scratch his knees while standing straight up.

No way he gets to us.

TheDon
06-22-2011, 10:42 PM
I just don't see the need for another midget point guard? Can we please just draft big lol

pacer4ever
06-22-2011, 10:42 PM
Holy cow people are coming around. I told people AJ Price wasn't very good forever ago. Mainly that be was a bad shooter. I got nothing but crap for it.

At the same token however I feel similarly about Kemba. Deja Vu.

I have never liked Price but he ok for a 2nd round pick a pretty good 3rd string. But no way he is starting material like some here suggest and Vogel said.

DGPR
06-22-2011, 10:43 PM
Biyombo can scratch his knees while standing straight up.

No way he gets to us.
That made me chuckle for some odd reason.

pacer4ever
06-22-2011, 10:44 PM
Alex Burks if we trade up :pray:


trade down Reggie Jackson and another player like Vuezuic of USC.

xBulletproof
06-22-2011, 10:44 PM
lol thats the only thing that he is good at what you mean... he knows his game and everyone else does, hitting 3's plus he is a clutch shooter... but thing is overall as a player he isn't that good.

P.S. I said he wasn't good a long time ago as well...

27% from 3 says otherwise. As does the 34% from the field. People only seem to remember the makes, I swear.

Its nothing new though. He shot badly in college as well. No idea why people expected better against better competition. Meh.

TheDon
06-22-2011, 10:47 PM
I think the worst thing you could do with this draft is go with the safe pick nobody is really going to fault you if someone turns out to be a bust in this crapshoot of a draft.

vnzla81
06-22-2011, 10:57 PM
27% from 3 says otherwise. As does the 34% from the field. People only seem to remember the makes, I swear.

Its nothing new though. He shot badly in college as well. No idea why people expected better against better competition. Meh.

Just give him two more years and we will be Steve Nash like ;)

pacer4ever
06-22-2011, 11:12 PM
lol thats the only thing that he is good at what you mean... he knows his game and everyone else does, hitting 3's plus he is a clutch shooter... but thing is overall as a player he isn't that good.

P.S. I said he wasn't good a long time ago as well...

clutch shooter since when??? im :confused:

Really?
06-23-2011, 08:49 AM
27% from 3 says otherwise. As does the 34% from the field. People only seem to remember the makes, I swear.

Its nothing new though. He shot badly in college as well. No idea why people expected better against better competition. Meh.

Yeah last year was off, but he shot 41% from the field and 34% from 3 his first year, I think the injury threw him off this season.

He also shot 44% from 3 in the playoffs... hopefully that is a sign to come... I actually didn't like him much in college, thought he was inconsistent but when he got hot he really lit it up. He has always been a 3 point shooter though.


clutch shooter since when??? im :confused:

Since college, just doesn't get any opportunities in the pro's... how many teams let their bench players in the game near the end, let alone shot.