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Dr. Awesome
06-12-2011, 03:56 PM
So, I've been watching the Finals and I'm wondering if a certain player performs well or poorly, could it effect someones draft status?

I've been watching Jason Terry play great and I'm wondering if that will help the case for Jimmer Fredette. Both are undersized SGs who can score.

Now, I hate Fredette's game and don't want him anywhere near a Pacers uniform unless he is playing against us, but I still wonder if Jason Terry's success has changed anyone view on what Fredette could potentially contribute. There are other examples as well.

What do y'all think?

Kstat
06-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Fredette isn't really a shooting guard and he could probably bench-press Jason Terry.

Dr. Awesome
06-12-2011, 03:59 PM
Can someone edit the title to "anyones", autocorrect sucks.

Dr. Awesome
06-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Fredette isn't really a shooting guard and he could probably bench-press Jason Terry.

He sure as hell isn't a PG.

Kstat
06-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Sure he is. He played the Derrick Rose role for BYU because the other 4 guys on the court were god-awful. Doesn't mean he can't run an offense.

wintermute
06-12-2011, 04:05 PM
Funny, I had a similar question in mind, but mine was more along the lines of, "Does Dirk's success change perception of Euros?"

Especially since there are a number of European prospects in this draft.

Dr. Awesome
06-12-2011, 04:09 PM
Sure he is. He played the Derrick Rose role for BYU because the other 4 guys on the court were god-awful. Doesn't mean he can't run an offense.

A good PG can at least get his guys involved. BYU played hardly any competition as it was, it wasn't as if they were playing a ranked team every week.

Not to mention there is no way he can stay in front of an NBA PG on defense.

Kstat
06-12-2011, 04:14 PM
A good PG can at least get his guys involved. BYU played hardly any competition as it was, it wasn't as if they were playing a ranked team every week.



BYU was awful by any standards.


Not to mention there is no way he can stay in front of an NBA PG on defense.

Misinformed. His agility graded out better than kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Nolan Smith and Shelvin Mack. He can stay in front of people.

He's white, therefore he's unathletic. I get the stereotype. I just don't find it to be true in this case. His athleticism graded out just fine at the combine.

owl
06-12-2011, 04:22 PM
As far as point guards is vertical really that important? Decent athleticism should be good enough. It is the ability to score and pass and know where your teamates are that make for a long career as a point.

Dr. Awesome
06-12-2011, 04:24 PM
BYU was awful by any standards.



Misinformed. His agility graded out better than kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Nolan Smith and Shelvin Mack. He can stay in front of people.

He's white, therefore he's unathletic. I get the stereotype. I just don't find it to be true in this case. His athleticism graded out just fine at the combine.

There's really no need to turn this into a race thing - I'll say the same thing about Walker, he will be a horrible defender and he is black. I think Jan Vessley will be a good defender and he is white. I just saw him get burned in college, I put more stock in that than I do the combine.

Afterall, Hansbrough was right with Blake Griffin by most combine standards. Who's more athletic? By a lot or jus barely like the combine suggested?

Kid Minneapolis
06-12-2011, 04:24 PM
Disagree in general about Fredette, Dr. Awesome.

Kstat
06-12-2011, 04:28 PM
There's really no need to turn this into a race thing - I'll say the same thing about Walker, he will be a horrible defender and he is black. I think Jan Vessley will be a good defender and he is white. I just saw him get burned in college, I put more stock in that than I do the combine.

Afterall, Hansbrough was right with Blake Griffin by most combine standards. Who's more athletic? By a lot or jus barely like the combine suggested?

Griffin tested a lot better in agility and vertical leap, which are the two things you'd expect him to have over Tyler.

I wasn't referring to you specifically. A lot of people never saw Fredette play save a few tournament games, and they see a bulky white guy that took a lot of shots. I don't know how anybody is supposed to infer that he can't play defense when he has to devote every energy to scoring 40 points in order to squeak out a win.

judicata
06-12-2011, 04:48 PM
I was thinking the same thing, which is really good for guys like Fredette, Smith, and Walker. All of these guys get called pgs because they had the ball in their hands, but I don't consider any of them to be pgs, just short 2s that pound the rock for 20 seconds of every possession. Terry and Barea are showing that you can be a small 2 that runs the P&R and looks to score and be effective and incredibly useful for a team off the bench.

Jimmer averaged something like 21 shots a game his senior season. I don't think its weird for people to consider him a 2.

Really?
06-12-2011, 05:01 PM
To answer the original question yes, yes it does... Most probably not for most people but I bet GM's look differently at guys with similar styles to successful playoff players.

pwee31
06-12-2011, 05:13 PM
I say yes, the Finals and playoffs in general affect a players draft status.

I think the reason Biyombo is in the lottery is b/c of how Ibaka has played and developed. You can look at Saer Sene and even Diop as well to compare, but Ibaka is the hot name.

I think Dirk will help the Euros some, as will the weaker draft, but I think the expectations for Euros isn't as high as Dirk and Pau types are really hard to come by.

As for Jimmer Fredette. I think his draft status is really tied to Stephen Curry a few years ago. Questions about his point guard ability. High volume shooter and scorer for a smaller program that counted on you to do so. Both seemed to have good workouts. I remember mocks early on that had Curry going to the Pacers at #13, then once workouts were done and over, folks knew he wouldn't get past the Knicks at #8, and he ended up going #7. I think when all is said and done Jimmer may have the same result.

AesopRockOn
06-12-2011, 05:47 PM
Actually I think Ibaka had a much better regular season than postseason this year or at least similar production. [Ed. Copy/paster hates me....]

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padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> OFF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> DEF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">RPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">APG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">SPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> BPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> TO</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> PF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">PPG</td></tr></tbody></table>

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border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); "></tr></tbody></table><table class="playerStatTable careerAvg" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; width: 742px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><tr class="odd" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); "><td class="yr" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">10-11</td><td class="yr" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">OKC</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">82</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">44</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">27.0</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.543</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.000</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.750</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">2.6</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">5.0</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">7.6</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.3</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.4</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">2.4</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.9</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">3.3</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">9.9

</td></tr><tr class="career" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "></tr></tbody></table>

Tom White
06-12-2011, 06:08 PM
So, I've been watching the Finals and I'm wondering if a certain player performs well or poorly, could it effect someones draft status?

I've been watching Jason Terry play great and I'm wondering if that will help the case for Jimmer Fredette. Both are undersized SGs who can score.

Now, I hate Fredette's game and don't want him anywhere near a Pacers uniform unless he is playing against us, but I still wonder if Jason Terry's success has changed anyone view on what Fredette could potentially contribute. There are other examples as well.

What do y'all think?


Funny, I had a similar question in mind, but mine was more along the lines of, "Does Dirk's success change perception of Euros?"

Especially since there are a number of European prospects in this draft.

I would think that neither the performance of Terry or Dirk would have any bearing on a draft prospect.

For every under-sized guard or Euro in the finals, there are many who are NOT in the finals. Would they have any bearing on a prospect's draft position? No.

Pacersalltheway10
06-12-2011, 06:08 PM
I hope it does, because that means Jimmer would go in the top 10.

Strummer
06-12-2011, 06:20 PM
Can someone edit the title to "anyones", autocorrect sucks.

You can edit the title yourself. While editing there's an "advanced" option that lets you edit the title. (It may not be called "advanced", I don't remember.)

Really?
06-12-2011, 06:28 PM
Actually I think Ibaka had a much better regular season than postseason this year or at least similar production. [Ed. Copy/paster hates me....]

<table class="playerStatTable careerAvg" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; width: 742px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><tr class="career" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><td class="col_1" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); font-weight: bold; ">Playoff
Avg</td><td class="col_2" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">OKC</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">17</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">17</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">28.8</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">0.462</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">0.000</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">0.825</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">2.8</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">4.5</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">7.3</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">0.2</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">0.2</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">3.1</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">1.2</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">3.8</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); ">9.8</td></tr><tr class="odd" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); "></tr></tbody></table><table class="playerStatTable careerAvg" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; width: 742px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><tr class="title" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"><td class="year" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">Season</td><td class="team" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">Team</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> G</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> GS</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> MPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> FG%</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> 3p%</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> FT%</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> OFF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> DEF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">RPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">APG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">SPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> BPG</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> TO</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank"> PF</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); background-image: url(<a href=" http:="" i.cdn.turner.com="" nba="" media="" homepage="" stats_subhead.gif);"="" target="_blank">PPG</td></tr></tbody></table>

<table class="playerStatTable careerAvg" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; width: 742px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><tr class="odd" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); "></tr></tbody></table><table class="playerStatTable careerAvg" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; width: 742px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><tr class="odd" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(244, 244, 244); "><td class="yr" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">10-11</td><td class="yr" style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">OKC</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">82</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">44</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">27.0</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.543</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.000</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.750</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">2.6</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">5.0</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">7.6</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.3</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.4</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">2.4</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">0.9</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">3.3</td><td style="padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-right-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); border-left-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">9.9

</td></tr><tr class="career" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "></tr></tbody></table>

One thing that doesn't show is how much his jump shot seemed to have improve over the course of the season...

xBulletproof
06-12-2011, 06:57 PM
Misinformed. His agility graded out better than kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Nolan Smith and Shelvin Mack. He can stay in front of people.

He's white, therefore he's unathletic. I get the stereotype. I just don't find it to be true in this case. His athleticism graded out just fine at the combine.

Why does his inability to play defense have to have anything to do with his athleticism? You mentioned that, nobody else. Plenty of athletic people can't play defense. Regardless, I trust what I see on the court, not in a workout. That's like those terrible NFL combines where they draft guys based on those numbers, even though everything else says they can't do something.

Even his own teammates in college pointed out his inability to play defense against their poor competition. That doesn't bode well for his chances on playing defense against NBA PG's.

QuickRelease
06-12-2011, 11:23 PM
I've got Donatas fever!

AesopRockOn
06-13-2011, 02:53 AM
One thing that doesn't show is how much his jump shot seemed to have improve over the course of the season...

I agree; dude's a beast. I was just saying that he had a slightly lackluster postseason compared to his regular season where he is perceived as a major championship piece. All in relation to the Finals/Playoffs bearing on draft position discussion. I don't think the playoffs have much effect on draft status unless one of the potential draftees is being directly compared to one of the players in the Finals. [Insert Matt Howard could become the next Brian Cardinal joke here.]

Shabazz
06-13-2011, 03:04 AM
I watched Jason Terry play in college (even the season the NCAA took away from Arizona because of the money he took.) Watching Fredette this past season I don't think I ever thought to myself "wow that reminds me of Jason Terry at Arizona."

So no, I don't think anyone is going to change how they view Fredette in this draft because of how Terry has played.

naptownmenace
06-13-2011, 12:40 PM
Sure he is. He played the Derrick Rose role for BYU because the other 4 guys on the court were god-awful. Doesn't mean he can't run an offense.

Allen Iverson could run an offense too... that doesn't mean he wasn't a SG.

Jimmer was a SG in High School as well. He's the classic SG in a PG's body.

naptownmenace
06-13-2011, 12:50 PM
I remember when there was a rumor floating around that the Pacers and Hawks were interested in a Jason Terry for Jamaal Tinsley swap.

We here at PD had a few heated debates about which player was better. :shakehead

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=4727&highlight=jason+terry+tinsley&page=3


Jason Terry = :puke:

Bird thinking that Terry would be a better point than Tinsley = :banghead:




I don't know why people consider Jason Terry a risk. He's much better than Tinsley. He's a lot like Dewayne Wade in that he can run the offense, is athletic, and can dribble penetrate you to death. Plus, Terry can hit the perimeter shot. As far as his distribution is concerned, he's much better than some of you realize:

Assist Average the past 2 seasons: 6.4 per game

Compare that to Tinsley:
Assist Average the past two seasons: 6.7

Not a noticeable drop off. Pretty good considering Terry didn't have very many options to throw it to last year, basically S-Jackson and Abdur-Rahim for half a season. The year before when they had Big Dog Glen Robinson, Terry averaged 7.4 assists.

Actually, when you compare their stats from last year, the only thing that is substantially different is their FT shooting (82 for Terry, 73 for Tinsley) and points per game (16.8 versus 8.2). The defense should be about the same but Terry has more quickness.

A good trade IMO. At this point, I'd argue that Stephen Jackson is equal to Al Harrington's impact as well - just from a different position.

Really?
06-13-2011, 12:55 PM
This playoffs shows me that I don't want a player like LeBron on my team, he can just never get it done, lol... but Joel Anthony showed his but... Bring on Biyombo:D