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Speed
06-08-2011, 02:04 PM
Its out, can someone copy and paste it, please?

cgg
06-08-2011, 02:07 PM
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cgg
06-08-2011, 02:14 PM
Oops, I thought you were a different person, saying that it wasn't insider. :-p

Sperka07
06-08-2011, 02:18 PM
I am new here but here is the mock draft.


Despite the fact the draft is only two weeks away, there is still a lot of confusion about who is going where.

"I know who is going [Nos.] 1 and 2," one lottery GM told ESPN.com. "After that, I don't have a clue."

A number of GMs in the lottery are reporting the same thing, but teams are beginning to narrow down the list of who's going where.

In this mock draft we'll not only make an educated guess as to who's going where, but we'll also give you a look at the other possible picks for each team. Here's our most informed take, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, on how the draft might play out.

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Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke

Analysis: Derrick Williams' camp is doing its best to cast doubt on the Cavs' coronation of Irving as the No. 1 pick. But with two weeks to go, all signs still point to Cleveland selecting Irving first. Williams is still in the picture here in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4. But sources say it's Irving's to lose.


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Minnesota


Derrick Williams
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona

Analysis: On Friday, I detailed the Timberwolves' draft strategies in the wake of signing Ricky Rubio to a contract. Here's the CliffsNotes version: Publicly, the team is claiming that they're likely to hang on to the pick. Privately, they're hoping that a team comes along and offers them an impact veteran -- someone such as Pau Gasol, Monta Ellis or even JaVale McGee -- for the pick.

If they get a good deal, they'll be more than happy to dump the pick. Rubio is their rookie this season. If they do keep the pick, expect them to take either Williams or Enes Kanter. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time the season starts.


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Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky

Analysis: The Jazz have already had a number of workouts but the big one comes June 15 when Knight, Walker and Jimmer Fredette are all expected to work out for the team.

While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas or even Jan Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on June 15, that could push the Jazz to go for a big man here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.


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Cleveland



Enes Kanter
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey

Analysis: Kanter had just two workouts. Both were in Chicago and both had him playing against the proverbial chair. That changed on Tuesday when he went into Cleveland and worked out against Tristan Thompson and Marcus Morris.

Kanter would love to land in Cleveland and understands it will be tough for the Cavs to justify the pick unless he gives them more than the Nike Hoop Summit, the Chicago combine and some grainy high school video. It's still too early to see whether the Cavs go Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Kawhi Leonard, but those seem to be the four guys they're seriously looking at with the fourth pick.


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Toronto


Jan Vesely
Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic

Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of ways here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight's on the board, I don't think he gets passed on here. If Walker's here the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

He could go with an international player, such as Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the three, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board. He provides size and athleticism at the small forward position. The other dark horse here is Kawhi Leonard.


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Washington


Kawhi Leonard
Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State

Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the question becomes, "Who's the best player on the board?" The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

Valanciunas is an option. The Wizards could use more help in the middle -- but he's a bit more of a project. That leaves Leonard. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes.


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Sacramento


Kemba Walker
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn

Analysis: We continue to keep Walker planted here in Sacramento, though from what I can gather Geoff Petrie is considering a number of options, including trades. Petrie is in (and has been for two years) the same boat as Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld. His job isn't very secure and the past two years Petrie has opted for a "sure-thing" player who could produce in Year 1.

Walker is that guy at this point in the draft and, as an added bonus, he doesn't have the same character issues that Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins had.

Leonard would be another possibility if he's still available -- the Kings still need help at the small forward position. And don't count out Jimmer Fredette if Walker is off the board. Petrie loves shooters and Fredette would be a nice fit next to Evans.


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Detroit


Jonas Valanciunas
Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: After changing up the Pistons' mock for three straight weeks, we're finally steadying the boat a bit. The Pistons are really looking at five players: Valanciunas, Knight, Vesely, Biyombo and Tristan Thompson.

Biyombo and Thompson are the best fits of the group, but with new owner Tom Gores giving Joe Dumars some freedom to remake the Pistons don't be surprised to see the Pistons swing for the fences. Valanciunas is a risk, but his upside is high and he could be the long-term answer for the Pistons in the middle.


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Charlotte


Marcus Morris
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks -- to go with a proven product and swing for a double instead of a home run.

Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix here as well.


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Milwaukee


Alec Burks
Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado

Analysis: Last summer the Bucks went out and tried to boost their scoring output by re-signing John Salmons and trading for Corey Maggette. It didn't go so well. Between injuries and chemistry issues the Bucks stumbled.

Burks is one of the best scorers in the draft. His ability to get to the basket should give the Bucks a potent young backcourt.

Jordan Hamilton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo are other possibilities here.


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Golden State


Klay Thompson
Position: PG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington St.

Analysis: The Warriors have a new owner, a new head coach and new management. Of the three, the most important addition might be Jerry West, who knows how to build winners and is far from a wallflower.

The first shoe is already beginning to drop with word that the Warriors are open to moving Monta Ellis. His replacement? The sweet shooting Thompson, who has wowed in recent workouts. He has size, the pedigree and, most of all, the blessing of West. Marcus Morris and Alec Burks are other possibilities here.


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Utah


Chris Singleton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State

Analysis: With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency this summer, the Jazz are set to lose their most versatile defender. Enter Singleton. He's not the most polished offensive player in the world (sound familiar, AK-47 fans?), but his ability to guard multiple positions and his size for his position are intriguing for the Jazz.

With Singleton rising on many draft boards, the question is: Will he still be here at No. 12? Teams with picks as high as the Raptors (No. 5) are looking at him. Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here, too. Ditto for Bismack Biyombo.


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Phoenix


Tristan Thompson
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Thompson takes them decidedly in that direction.

He is a solid athlete, an excellent rebounder and gives the Suns some desperately needed toughness in the paint. Pair him in the frontcourt with Marcin Gortat and the Suns finally have some swagger. Burks, Fredette and Biyombo are all possibilities here as well.


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Houston


Bismack Biyombo
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo

Analysis: Biyombo is in the conversation as high as No. 5, but the general lack of information about him may cause his stock to slip. He's got the physical abilities to be excellent in the league, but he's a wild card.

The Raptors, Wizards, Pistons, Bucks and Jazz all will give him strong looks. I doubt he slips further than Houston. While small forward is a big need too (they like Marcus Morris, Jordan Hamilton and Tobias Harris there), at this point Biyombo is more reward than risk.


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Indiana


Jimmer Fredette
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young

Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step. Tristan Thompson, Kenneth Faried and Markieff Morris are all options here as well.


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Philadelphia


Jordan Hamilton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: The Sixers have been looking for a big man in the draft but the team could go in a different direction now that it appears Andre Iguodala is back on the block. The Sixers have also been hungry for shooters, and Hamilton is one of the most lethal scorers in the draft. Markieff Morris, Nikola Vucevic and Kenneth Faried are also possibilities here.


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New York


Josh Selby
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 195
Age: 20
School: Kansas

Analysis: GM Donnie Walsh has lost his job, but he's still calling the shots for the Knicks on draft night. Expect Walsh to go out with a bang. The Knicks are essentially looking at five players right now -- Klay Thompson, Fredette, Selby, Marshon Brooks and Kenneth Faried. Thompson and Fredette are off the board in our mock.

The Knicks have been looking long and hard at Selby for a while. They think he'd thrive in Mike D'Antoni's system that allows guards much more freedom than they get at Kansas. Selby has lottery talent, but a shaky résumé. This may be a risk taking him this high, but there's a very high upside.


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Washington
(via Atlanta)


Marshon Brooks
Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence

Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency and, coincidentally, Brooks has been compared to Young. Both players are long, athletic and can score. Brooks may have a little more killer instinct, though, that could make him a star. Tobias Harris, Markieff Morris, Kenneth Faried and Donatas Motiejunas are other possibilities here as well.


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Charlotte
(via New Orleans)


Markieff Morris
Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: A month ago I was in Florida with the Morris twins and big topic of discussion was the inevitability of the two brothers breaking up when they were drafted by different teams. We explored a number of options that could reunite them on the same team. This is really the only plausible one, and it's more plausible than you think.

The Bobcats are one of those teams that thinks the twins can play together. If it happens, you'll see two very happy twins on draft night. Brooks, Faried and Reggie Jackson are other names who could land here.


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Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Donatas Motiejunas
Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post. Brooks, Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities here.


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Portland


Kenneth Faried
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State

Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him.

His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style. Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson and Nikola Vucevic are other players to watch.


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Denver


Tobias Harris
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee

Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft. Nikola Vucevic, Charles Jenkins and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.


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Houston
(via Orlando)


Nikola Vucevic
Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC

Analysis: Even though we have the Rockets going big at No. 14, don't be surprised if they do it again here. Vucevic has helped himself as much as anyone in the workout process. He's got size, toughness and skill. He's not going to be a superstar thanks to a lack of explosive athleticism, but he'll be a very solid addition to the Rockets. Mirotic, Justin Harper and Darius Morris are other possibilities.


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Oklahoma City


Nikola Mirotic
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia

Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. If he stays in the draft -- a big "if" at this point -- someone will gamble on him. If it's Presti, he could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Bogan Bogdanovic and Lucas Nogueira are possibilities.


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Boston


JaJuan Johnson
Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 220
Age: 22
School: Purdue

Analysis:The Celtics need size, and Johnson is an intriguing pick here. He is long and athletic and stretches the floor with his jump shot. He needs to add strength, but his production at Purdue is hard to ignore. Justin Harper, Nikola Vucevic, Jon Leuer and Jeremey Tyler are also possibilities.


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Dallas


Davis Bertans
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia

Analysis: It's unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that's how some scouts were referring to him.

Bertans doesn't have Nowitzki's size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long term, he could be a really nice addition. Jon Leuer, JaJuan Johnson, Chandler Parsons and Jeremy Tyler could all be drafted here.


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New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College

Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

Had he not had a knee injury just as the draft evaluations began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here, too.


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Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond

Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need shooting, and Harper should be able to give them some from the perimeter. Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are possibilities here.


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San Antonio


Jeremy Tyler
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 263
Age: 19
Team: Tokyo Apache

Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas. But the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the pre-draft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.


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Chicago


Charles Jenkins
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 217
Age: 22
School: Hofstra

Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Jenkins' ability to play both backcourt positions is intriguing. He is big, strong, a very good shooter and one of the best pure scorers in the draft. He is a real sleeper. Tyler Honeycutt, Nolan Smith and Charles Goudelock are possibilities here as well.

Next Five In: Tyler Honeycutt, G, UCLA; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Darius Morris, PG, Michigan; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil

HickeyS2000
06-08-2011, 02:44 PM
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Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: Derrick Williams' camp is doing its best to cast doubt on the Cavs' coronation of Irving as the No. 1 pick. But with two weeks to go, all signs still point to Cleveland selecting Irving first. Williams is still in the picture here in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4. But sources say it's Irving's to lose.



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Minnesota


Derrick Williams

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona
Analysis: On Friday, I detailed the Timberwolves' draft strategies in the wake of signing Ricky Rubio to a contract. Here's the CliffsNotes version: Publicly, the team is claiming that they're likely to hang on to the pick. Privately, they're hoping that a team comes along and offers them an impact veteran -- someone such as Pau Gasol, Monta Ellis or even JaVale McGee -- for the pick.

If they get a good deal, they'll be more than happy to dump the pick. Rubio is their rookie this season. If they do keep the pick, expect them to take either Williams or Enes Kanter. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time the season starts.



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Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Jazz have already had a number of workouts but the big one comes June 15 when Knight, Walker and Jimmer Fredette are all expected to work out for the team.

While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas or even Jan Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on June 15, that could push the Jazz to go for a big man here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.



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Cleveland


Enes Kanter

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey
Analysis: Kanter had just two workouts. Both were in Chicago and both had him playing against the proverbial chair. That changed on Tuesday when he went into Cleveland and worked out against Tristan Thompson and Marcus Morris.

Kanter would love to land in Cleveland and understands it will be tough for the Cavs to justify the pick unless he gives them more than the Nike Hoop Summit, the Chicago combine and some grainy high school video. It's still too early to see whether the Cavs go Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Kawhi Leonard, but those seem to be the four guys they're seriously looking at with the fourth pick.



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Toronto

Jan Vesely

Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic
Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of ways here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight's on the board, I don't think he gets passed on here. If Walker's here the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

He could go with an international player, such as Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the three, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board. He provides size and athleticism at the small forward position. The other dark horse here is Kawhi Leonard.



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Washington

Kawhi Leonard

Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State
Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the question becomes, "Who's the best player on the board?" The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

Valanciunas is an option. The Wizards could use more help in the middle -- but he's a bit more of a project. That leaves Leonard. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes.



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Sacramento

Kemba Walker

Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn
Analysis: We continue to keep Walker planted here in Sacramento, though from what I can gather Geoff Petrie is considering a number of options, including trades. Petrie is in (and has been for two years) the same boat as Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld. His job isn't very secure and the past two years Petrie has opted for a "sure-thing" player who could produce in Year 1.

Walker is that guy at this point in the draft and, as an added bonus, he doesn't have the same character issues that Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins had.

Leonard would be another possibility if he's still available -- the Kings still need help at the small forward position. And don't count out Jimmer Fredette if Walker is off the board. Petrie loves shooters and Fredette would be a nice fit next to Evans.



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Detroit

Jonas Valanciunas

Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: After changing up the Pistons' mock for three straight weeks, we're finally steadying the boat a bit. The Pistons are really looking at five players: Valanciunas, Knight, Vesely, Biyombo and Tristan Thompson.

Biyombo and Thompson are the best fits of the group, but with new owner Tom Gores giving Joe Dumars some freedom to remake the Pistons don't be surprised to see the Pistons swing for the fences. Valanciunas is a risk, but his upside is high and he could be the long-term answer for the Pistons in the middle.



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Charlotte


Marcus Morris

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks -- to go with a proven product and swing for a double instead of a home run.

Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix here as well.



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Milwaukee

Alec Burks

Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado
Analysis: Last summer the Bucks went out and tried to boost their scoring output by re-signing John Salmons and trading for Corey Maggette. It didn't go so well. Between injuries and chemistry issues the Bucks stumbled.

Burks is one of the best scorers in the draft. His ability to get to the basket should give the Bucks a potent young backcourt.

Jordan Hamilton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo are other possibilities here.



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Golden State

Klay Thompson

Position: PG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington St.
Analysis: The Warriors have a new owner, a new head coach and new management. Of the three, the most important addition might be Jerry West, who knows how to build winners and is far from a wallflower.

The first shoe is already beginning to drop with word that the Warriors are open to moving Monta Ellis. His replacement? The sweet shooting Thompson, who has wowed in recent workouts. He has size, the pedigree and, most of all, the blessing of West. Marcus Morris and Alec Burks are other possibilities here.



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Utah

Chris Singleton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State
Analysis: With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency this summer, the Jazz are set to lose their most versatile defender. Enter Singleton. He's not the most polished offensive player in the world (sound familiar, AK-47 fans?), but his ability to guard multiple positions and his size for his position are intriguing for the Jazz.

With Singleton rising on many draft boards, the question is: Will he still be here at No. 12? Teams with picks as high as the Raptors (No. 5) are looking at him. Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here, too. Ditto for Bismack Biyombo.



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Phoenix

Tristan Thompson

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas
Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Thompson takes them decidedly in that direction.

He is a solid athlete, an excellent rebounder and gives the Suns some desperately needed toughness in the paint. Pair him in the frontcourt with Marcin Gortat and the Suns finally have some swagger. Burks, Fredette and Biyombo are all possibilities here as well.



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Houston

Bismack Biyombo

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo
Analysis: Biyombo is in the conversation as high as No. 5, but the general lack of information about him may cause his stock to slip. He's got the physical abilities to be excellent in the league, but he's a wild card.

The Raptors, Wizards, Pistons, Bucks and Jazz all will give him strong looks. I doubt he slips further than Houston. While small forward is a big need too (they like Marcus Morris, Jordan Hamilton and Tobias Harris there), at this point Biyombo is more reward than risk.



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Indiana


Jimmer Fredette

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young
Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step. Tristan Thompson, Kenneth Faried and Markieff Morris are all options here as well.



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Philadelphia


Jordan Hamilton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas
Analysis: The Sixers have been looking for a big man in the draft but the team could go in a different direction now that it appears Andre Iguodala is back on the block. The Sixers have also been hungry for shooters, and Hamilton is one of the most lethal scorers in the draft. Markieff Morris, Nikola Vucevic and Kenneth Faried are also possibilities here.



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New York


Josh Selby

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 195
Age: 20
School: Kansas
Analysis: GM Donnie Walsh has lost his job, but he's still calling the shots for the Knicks on draft night. Expect Walsh to go out with a bang. The Knicks are essentially looking at five players right now -- Klay Thompson, Fredette, Selby, Marshon Brooks and Kenneth Faried. Thompson and Fredette are off the board in our mock.

The Knicks have been looking long and hard at Selby for a while. They think he'd thrive in Mike D'Antoni's system that allows guards much more freedom than they get at Kansas. Selby has lottery talent, but a shaky résumé. This may be a risk taking him this high, but there's a very high upside.



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Washington
(via Atlanta)


Marshon Brooks

Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence
Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency and, coincidentally, Brooks has been compared to Young. Both players are long, athletic and can score. Brooks may have a little more killer instinct, though, that could make him a star. Tobias Harris, Markieff Morris, Kenneth Faried and Donatas Motiejunas are other possibilities here as well.



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Charlotte
(via New Orleans)


Markieff Morris

Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: A month ago I was in Florida with the Morris twins and big topic of discussion was the inevitability of the two brothers breaking up when they were drafted by different teams. We explored a number of options that could reunite them on the same team. This is really the only plausible one, and it's more plausible than you think.

The Bobcats are one of those teams that thinks the twins can play together. If it happens, you'll see two very happy twins on draft night. Brooks, Faried and Reggie Jackson are other names who could land here.



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Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Donatas Motiejunas

Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post. Brooks, Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities here.



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Portland


Kenneth Faried

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State
Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him.

His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style. Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson and Nikola Vucevic are other players to watch.



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Denver


Tobias Harris

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee
Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft. Nikola Vucevic, Charles Jenkins and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.



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Houston
(via Orlando)


Nikola Vucevic

Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC
Analysis: Even though we have the Rockets going big at No. 14, don't be surprised if they do it again here. Vucevic has helped himself as much as anyone in the workout process. He's got size, toughness and skill. He's not going to be a superstar thanks to a lack of explosive athleticism, but he'll be a very solid addition to the Rockets. Mirotic, Justin Harper and Darius Morris are other possibilities.



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Oklahoma City


Nikola Mirotic

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia
Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. If he stays in the draft -- a big "if" at this point -- someone will gamble on him. If it's Presti, he could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Bogan Bogdanovic and Lucas Nogueira are possibilities.



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Boston


JaJuan Johnson

Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 220
Age: 22
School: Purdue
Analysis:The Celtics need size, and Johnson is an intriguing pick here. He is long and athletic and stretches the floor with his jump shot. He needs to add strength, but his production at Purdue is hard to ignore. Justin Harper, Nikola Vucevic, Jon Leuer and Jeremey Tyler are also possibilities.



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Dallas


Davis Bertans

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia
Analysis: It's unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that's how some scouts were referring to him.

Bertans doesn't have Nowitzki's size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long term, he could be a really nice addition. Jon Leuer, JaJuan Johnson, Chandler Parsons and Jeremy Tyler could all be drafted here.



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New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College
Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

Had he not had a knee injury just as the draft evaluations began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here, too.



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Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond
Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need shooting, and Harper should be able to give them some from the perimeter. Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are possibilities here.



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San Antonio


Jeremy Tyler

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 263
Age: 19
Team: Tokyo Apache
Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas. But the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the pre-draft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.



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Chicago


Charles Jenkins

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 217
Age: 22
School: Hofstra
Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Jenkins' ability to play both backcourt positions is intriguing. He is big, strong, a very good shooter and one of the best pure scorers in the draft. He is a real sleeper. Tyler Honeycutt, Nolan Smith and Charles Goudelock are possibilities here as well.

Next Five In: Tyler Honeycutt, G, UCLA; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Darius Morris, PG, Michigan; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil

HickeyS2000
06-08-2011, 02:49 PM
Sorry about the formatting I'm at work.

MUpaceSIC
06-08-2011, 02:51 PM
Despite the fact the draft is only two weeks away, there is still a lot of confusion about who is going where.

"I know who is going [Nos.] 1 and 2," one lottery GM told ESPN.com. "After that, I don't have a clue."

A number of GMs in the lottery are reporting the same thing, but teams are beginning to narrow down the list of who's going where.

In this mock draft we'll not only make an educated guess as to who's going where, but we'll also give you a look at the other possible picks for each team. Here's our most informed take, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, on how the draft might play out.




1.) Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: Derrick Williams' camp is doing its best to cast doubt on the Cavs' coronation of Irving as the No. 1 pick. But with two weeks to go, all signs still point to Cleveland selecting Irving first. Williams is still in the picture here in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4. But sources say it's Irving's to lose.



2.) Minnesota


Derrick Williams

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona
Analysis: On Friday, I detailed the Timberwolves' draft strategies in the wake of signing Ricky Rubio to a contract. Here's the CliffsNotes version: Publicly, the team is claiming that they're likely to hang on to the pick. Privately, they're hoping that a team comes along and offers them an impact veteran -- someone such as Pau Gasol, Monta Ellis or even JaVale McGee -- for the pick.

If they get a good deal, they'll be more than happy to dump the pick. Rubio is their rookie this season. If they do keep the pick, expect them to take either Williams or Enes Kanter. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time the season starts.


3.) Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Jazz have already had a number of workouts but the big one comes June 15 when Knight, Walker and Jimmer Fredette are all expected to work out for the team.

While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas or even Jan Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on June 15, that could push the Jazz to go for a big man here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.



4.) Cleveland


Enes Kanter

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey
Analysis: Kanter had just two workouts. Both were in Chicago and both had him playing against the proverbial chair. That changed on Tuesday when he went into Cleveland and worked out against Tristan Thompson and Marcus Morris.

Kanter would love to land in Cleveland and understands it will be tough for the Cavs to justify the pick unless he gives them more than the Nike Hoop Summit, the Chicago combine and some grainy high school video. It's still too early to see whether the Cavs go Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Kawhi Leonard, but those seem to be the four guys they're seriously looking at with the fourth pick.



5.) Toronto

Jan Vesely

Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic
Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of ways here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight's on the board, I don't think he gets passed on here. If Walker's here the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

He could go with an international player, such as Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the three, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board. He provides size and athleticism at the small forward position. The other dark horse here is Kawhi Leonard.


6.) Washington

Kawhi Leonard

Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State
Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the question becomes, "Who's the best player on the board?" The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

Valanciunas is an option. The Wizards could use more help in the middle -- but he's a bit more of a project. That leaves Leonard. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes.


7.) Sacramento

Kemba Walker

Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn
Analysis: We continue to keep Walker planted here in Sacramento, though from what I can gather Geoff Petrie is considering a number of options, including trades. Petrie is in (and has been for two years) the same boat as Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld. His job isn't very secure and the past two years Petrie has opted for a "sure-thing" player who could produce in Year 1.

Walker is that guy at this point in the draft and, as an added bonus, he doesn't have the same character issues that Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins had.

Leonard would be another possibility if he's still available -- the Kings still need help at the small forward position. And don't count out Jimmer Fredette if Walker is off the board. Petrie loves shooters and Fredette would be a nice fit next to Evans.



8.) Detroit

Jonas Valanciunas

Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: After changing up the Pistons' mock for three straight weeks, we're finally steadying the boat a bit. The Pistons are really looking at five players: Valanciunas, Knight, Vesely, Biyombo and Tristan Thompson.

Biyombo and Thompson are the best fits of the group, but with new owner Tom Gores giving Joe Dumars some freedom to remake the Pistons don't be surprised to see the Pistons swing for the fences. Valanciunas is a risk, but his upside is high and he could be the long-term answer for the Pistons in the middle.



9.) Charlotte


Marcus Morris

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks -- to go with a proven product and swing for a double instead of a home run.

Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix here as well.


10.) Milwaukee

Alec Burks

Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado
Analysis: Last summer the Bucks went out and tried to boost their scoring output by re-signing John Salmons and trading for Corey Maggette. It didn't go so well. Between injuries and chemistry issues the Bucks stumbled.

Burks is one of the best scorers in the draft. His ability to get to the basket should give the Bucks a potent young backcourt.

Jordan Hamilton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo are other possibilities here.



11.) Golden State

Klay Thompson

Position: PG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington St.
Analysis: The Warriors have a new owner, a new head coach and new management. Of the three, the most important addition might be Jerry West, who knows how to build winners and is far from a wallflower.

The first shoe is already beginning to drop with word that the Warriors are open to moving Monta Ellis. His replacement? The sweet shooting Thompson, who has wowed in recent workouts. He has size, the pedigree and, most of all, the blessing of West. Marcus Morris and Alec Burks are other possibilities here.


12.) Utah

Chris Singleton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State
Analysis: With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency this summer, the Jazz are set to lose their most versatile defender. Enter Singleton. He's not the most polished offensive player in the world (sound familiar, AK-47 fans?), but his ability to guard multiple positions and his size for his position are intriguing for the Jazz.

With Singleton rising on many draft boards, the question is: Will he still be here at No. 12? Teams with picks as high as the Raptors (No. 5) are looking at him. Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here, too. Ditto for Bismack Biyombo.


13.) Phoenix

Tristan Thompson

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas
Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Thompson takes them decidedly in that direction.

He is a solid athlete, an excellent rebounder and gives the Suns some desperately needed toughness in the paint. Pair him in the frontcourt with Marcin Gortat and the Suns finally have some swagger. Burks, Fredette and Biyombo are all possibilities here as well.


14.) Houston

Bismack Biyombo

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo
Analysis: Biyombo is in the conversation as high as No. 5, but the general lack of information about him may cause his stock to slip. He's got the physical abilities to be excellent in the league, but he's a wild card.

The Raptors, Wizards, Pistons, Bucks and Jazz all will give him strong looks. I doubt he slips further than Houston. While small forward is a big need too (they like Marcus Morris, Jordan Hamilton and Tobias Harris there), at this point Biyombo is more reward than risk.



15.) Indiana


Jimmer Fredette

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young
Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step. Tristan Thompson, Kenneth Faried and Markieff Morris are all options here as well.


16.) Philadelphia


Jordan Hamilton

Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas
Analysis: The Sixers have been looking for a big man in the draft but the team could go in a different direction now that it appears Andre Iguodala is back on the block. The Sixers have also been hungry for shooters, and Hamilton is one of the most lethal scorers in the draft. Markieff Morris, Nikola Vucevic and Kenneth Faried are also possibilities here.



17.) New York


Josh Selby

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 195
Age: 20
School: Kansas
Analysis: GM Donnie Walsh has lost his job, but he's still calling the shots for the Knicks on draft night. Expect Walsh to go out with a bang. The Knicks are essentially looking at five players right now -- Klay Thompson, Fredette, Selby, Marshon Brooks and Kenneth Faried. Thompson and Fredette are off the board in our mock.

The Knicks have been looking long and hard at Selby for a while. They think he'd thrive in Mike D'Antoni's system that allows guards much more freedom than they get at Kansas. Selby has lottery talent, but a shaky résumé. This may be a risk taking him this high, but there's a very high upside.



18.) Washington
(via Atlanta)


Marshon Brooks

Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence
Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency and, coincidentally, Brooks has been compared to Young. Both players are long, athletic and can score. Brooks may have a little more killer instinct, though, that could make him a star. Tobias Harris, Markieff Morris, Kenneth Faried and Donatas Motiejunas are other possibilities here as well.


19.) Charlotte
(via New Orleans)


Markieff Morris

Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: A month ago I was in Florida with the Morris twins and big topic of discussion was the inevitability of the two brothers breaking up when they were drafted by different teams. We explored a number of options that could reunite them on the same team. This is really the only plausible one, and it's more plausible than you think.

The Bobcats are one of those teams that thinks the twins can play together. If it happens, you'll see two very happy twins on draft night. Brooks, Faried and Reggie Jackson are other names who could land here.



20.) Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Donatas Motiejunas

Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania
Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post. Brooks, Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities here.


21.) Portland


Kenneth Faried

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State
Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him.

His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style. Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson and Nikola Vucevic are other players to watch.



22.) Denver


Tobias Harris

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee
Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft. Nikola Vucevic, Charles Jenkins and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.


23.) Houston
(via Orlando)


Nikola Vucevic

Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC
Analysis: Even though we have the Rockets going big at No. 14, don't be surprised if they do it again here. Vucevic has helped himself as much as anyone in the workout process. He's got size, toughness and skill. He's not going to be a superstar thanks to a lack of explosive athleticism, but he'll be a very solid addition to the Rockets. Mirotic, Justin Harper and Darius Morris are other possibilities.


24.) Oklahoma City


Nikola Mirotic

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia
Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. If he stays in the draft -- a big "if" at this point -- someone will gamble on him. If it's Presti, he could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Bogan Bogdanovic and Lucas Nogueira are possibilities.



25.) Boston


JaJuan Johnson

Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 220
Age: 22
School: Purdue
Analysis:The Celtics need size, and Johnson is an intriguing pick here. He is long and athletic and stretches the floor with his jump shot. He needs to add strength, but his production at Purdue is hard to ignore. Justin Harper, Nikola Vucevic, Jon Leuer and Jeremey Tyler are also possibilities.


26.) Dallas


Davis Bertans

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia
Analysis: It's unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that's how some scouts were referring to him.

Bertans doesn't have Nowitzki's size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long term, he could be a really nice addition. Jon Leuer, JaJuan Johnson, Chandler Parsons and Jeremy Tyler could all be drafted here.


27.) New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College
Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

Had he not had a knee injury just as the draft evaluations began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here, too.


28.) Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper

Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond
Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need shooting, and Harper should be able to give them some from the perimeter. Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are possibilities here.


29.) San Antonio


Jeremy Tyler

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 263
Age: 19
Team: Tokyo Apache
Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas. But the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the pre-draft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.


30.) Chicago


Charles Jenkins

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 217
Age: 22
School: Hofstra
Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Jenkins' ability to play both backcourt positions is intriguing. He is big, strong, a very good shooter and one of the best pure scorers in the draft. He is a real sleeper. Tyler Honeycutt, Nolan Smith and Charles Goudelock are possibilities here as well.

Next Five In: Tyler Honeycutt, G, UCLA; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Darius Morris, PG, Michigan; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil

Kstat
06-08-2011, 02:51 PM
For once, I hope Ford is right.

MUpaceSIC
06-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Sorry about the formatting I'm at work.

You just beat me to it. I formatted mine a little though ;)

Sparhawk
06-08-2011, 02:58 PM
Do we match up with Sacramento for a possible trade? I wouldn't mind shooting for Bismack.

I still like the idea of trading Rush for a late first round to pick up Reggie Jackson.

CooperManning
06-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Biyombo at 14 would be a bummer.

ECKrueger
06-08-2011, 03:01 PM
Do we match up with Sacramento for a possible trade? I wouldn't mind shooting for Bismack.

I still like the idea of trading Rush for a late first round to pick up Reggie Jackson.

Sounds great to me, especially getting Reggie.

Sparhawk
06-08-2011, 03:03 PM
Biyombo at 14 would be a bummer.

I'm just not sure Bismack gets past the Pistons.

Speed
06-08-2011, 03:15 PM
The guy form Draft Express was asked on a podcast who he thought had the upside to be allstars down the road in this draft, he said Irving and Biyombo.

He also said Biyombo had zero offensive game. If he falls this far, its for sure worth the risk. I guess a bunch of NBA types are over watching him play this week.

Kstat
06-08-2011, 03:16 PM
He's not playing anywhere. His European club gave him the boot after he skipped a game to play in the summit 2 months ago. Pretty spiteful thing to do, if you ask me.

For what it's worth, they got blasted out of the playoffs without him.

Sparhawk
06-08-2011, 03:20 PM
I can only imagine a lineup that included Reggie Jackson, PG, Danny, Biyombo and Hibbert would be a deadly defensive force...just not right away.

I'm not worried about our pick being able to score. I don't think that'll be an issue. PG should be the second option, Hibbert will get better as will Hans and Collison. I just want to get better defensively and not get killed on the boards night after night.

Speed
06-08-2011, 03:27 PM
He's not playing anywhere. His European club gave him the boot after he skipped a game to play in the summit 2 months ago. Pretty spiteful thing to do, if you ask me.

For what it's worth, they got blasted out of the playoffs without him.

Maybe its a workout then?

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=1247121&postcount=290

" Dumars has been to Europe to scout Valanciunas and Vesely. Two key members of the Pistons' staff -- Scott Perry and George David -- will travel to Spain later this week to check out Biyombo in Valencia, Spain. "

ECKrueger
06-08-2011, 03:33 PM
I can only imagine a lineup that included Reggie Jackson, PG, Danny, Biyombo and Hibbert would be a deadly defensive force...just not right away.

I'm not worried about our pick being able to score. I don't think that'll be an issue. PG should be the second option, Hibbert will get better as will Hans and Collison. I just want to get better defensively and not get killed on the boards night after night.

That would be nasty.

Gamble1
06-08-2011, 03:33 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on a Jimmer.

Sparhawk
06-08-2011, 03:39 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on a Jimmer.

No thanks. I just don't feel he fits what we need.

However, I do think Jimmer will have a better career than Reddick.

mb221
06-08-2011, 03:47 PM
So does Ford really think Jimmer will drop to us or does he just like the idea of it?

Kstat
06-08-2011, 03:50 PM
Maybe its a workout then?

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=1247121&postcount=290

" Dumars has been to Europe to scout Valanciunas and Vesely. Two key members of the Pistons' staff -- Scott Perry and George David -- will travel to Spain later this week to check out Biyombo in Valencia, Spain. "

I figure it's a workout or an interview.

90'sNBARocked
06-08-2011, 03:57 PM
Sorry, not on the Jimmer bandwagon

Rogco
06-08-2011, 04:22 PM
Hmm, I'd rather have Brooks at 15 than Jimmer. Brooks could come in and be our starting SG straight away, and then we can trade Rush. Really would like to get an extra pick in the first round.

Gamble1
06-08-2011, 04:35 PM
Hmm, I'd rather have Brooks at 15 than Jimmer. Brooks could come in and be our starting SG straight away, and then we can trade Rush. Really would like to get an extra pick in the first round.
So you don't want PG to start.

kielbeze
06-08-2011, 04:36 PM
I still like Ferried he is a rebounder and that almost always carries over to the NBA.

vnzla81
06-08-2011, 04:51 PM
Sorry, not on the Jimmer bandwagon

Hater :-p

PR07
06-08-2011, 04:55 PM
I think Jimmer would be a solid pick. We desperately need people with the ability to create their own shot, and while I never see him as a career 20 ppg scorer, I think he could have a nice career a la Jamal Crawford, scoring off the bench. In this draft, I certainly think we could do a lot worse.

Gamble1
06-08-2011, 04:59 PM
I think Jimmer would be a solid pick. We desperately need people with the ability to create their own shot, and while I never see him as a career 20 ppg scorer, I think he could have a nice career a la Jamal Crawford, scoring off the bench. In this draft, I certainly think we could do a lot worse.
It will also be nice if we have to cut bait on Lance and if AJ doesn't improve his shot this offseason.

Personally in this draft I would buy another pick late in the first and get JJ or trade Rush to Minny and also draft Faried.

Mourning
06-08-2011, 05:04 PM
Ugh... I hope we do a deal like Rush and our 1st rounder this year to either trade up, trade out of this draft and into next years draft at what is most likely going to be a lotto position or another young promising 2nd, 3rd or 4th year player.

Either way, I don't want Fredette! :thumbsdow

90'sNBARocked
06-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Hater :-p

Not really bro

except maybe his defense

problem is we already have 2 short scoring PG's

not on board for a third one

CooperManning
06-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Hmm, I'd rather have Brooks at 15 than Jimmer. Brooks could come in and be our starting SG straight away, and then we can trade Rush. Really would like to get an extra pick in the first round.

If we got Brooks, he'd fill the role we wanted Mayo to fill - bench scoring.

90'sNBARocked
06-08-2011, 05:21 PM
Man seeing all these "mock drafts" just really emphasises to me how bad a draft it seems

Personally hope we package 15 in a trade

Justin Tyme
06-08-2011, 06:06 PM
Sorry, not on the Jimmer bandwagon



If Bird picks Jimmer, I will go Rumplestiltskin. I'm having nightmares now at the prospect of Bird selecting Jimmer. If some think I threw a hizzy fit over the drafting of Stephenson and Reid last year, it will be nothing compared to the drafting of Jimmer!!!!!!!

Last year was packed with bigs available in the 2nd, and he picked Stephenson and REID! I'd rather had a # of bigs in that round and let them develop, but Bird had to take "born ready". We see how ready "born ready" was!

If Bird gives a 2nd rounder a guaranteed contract this year, he needs to be strung up and quartered. He surely won't make the same mistake for the 3rd time! Hopefully, he has learned from his mistakes of White and Stephenson.

Pacersalltheway10
06-08-2011, 06:37 PM
I would love for Biyombo to fall to 15. He's exactly what we have wanted next to Hibbert. Then if we trade Rush and maybe our 2nd rounder to get Reggie Jackson , I will do 360 degree backflips. We would get 2 athletic freaks!

The "experts" would have to give us an A+ if that happend.

Justin Tyme
06-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Man seeing all these "mock drafts" just really emphasises to me how bad a draft it seems

Personally hope we package 15 in a trade


I've been saying for a year now how weak this draft is. Too many bigs opted for the draft last year who should have stayed in school to develop their game. Hence Whiteside, Varnardo, Jordan, Lawal, Alabi, N'diaye, Caracter, Gallon, and Pitman all were end of bench ornaments or went to Europe. They wanted the money b4 the lockout. Terrible career decisions for numerous of these players and others in the draft as well.

Justin Tyme
06-08-2011, 06:41 PM
Reggie Williams


WHO? I'm not familiar with player. Who is he?

Pacersalltheway10
06-08-2011, 06:43 PM
WHO? I'm not familiar with player. Who is he?

I meant Reggie Jackson.

Pacersalltheway10
06-08-2011, 07:09 PM
Rush, #15 to Houston for #14 (Biyombo)

Dahntay Jones to Dallas for #26 pick(Reggie Jackson)

Select a wing with the #42 pick

BornReady
06-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Rush, #15 to Houston for #14 (Biyombo)

Dahntay Jones to Dallas for #26 pick(Reggie Jackson)

Select a wing with the #42 pick

is 1 spot in this draft really worth Rush?

Pacersalltheway10
06-08-2011, 07:50 PM
is 1 spot in this draft really worth Rush?
IF it garuntees Biyombo then yes, but of course it would have to be garunteed or othrewise no.

wseward
06-08-2011, 08:16 PM
The 2012 draft is going to be one of the deeper drafts we have seen. I would obviously like to get picks in that draft.

Having said that I do not want to give up a pick this year along with players and just get a pick in return. If we do not participate in this draft we will have to be active in the free agent market, and most likely overpay for a player that we could obtain through this years draft. The teams just out of the playoffs this year will be jocking to get into the playoffs and we need to make moves to have sustained success and move up the rankings in the East.

PacersPride
06-08-2011, 08:19 PM
I really hope Bird trades the pick if Jimmer is the selection @ 15. I like Jimmers offensive game, but I have serious doubts about his game at the next level. I dont see the need he fills either.

I could be dead wrong on this one and Jimmer become a star.. size wise he could be an Eric Gordon type.. both can light it up, one huge difference, EJ reportedly is a much stronger defender.

Bird did mention he wants the best bench in the NBA. Jimmer would be lightning in a bottle offensively with the second unit.

wseward
06-08-2011, 09:00 PM
I really hope Bird trades the pick if Jimmer is the selection @ 15. I like Jimmers offensive game, but I have serious doubts about his game at the next level. I dont see the need he fills either.

I could be dead wrong on this one and Jimmer become a star.. size wise he could be an Eric Gordon type.. both can light it up, one huge difference, EJ reportedly is a much stronger defender.

Bird did mention he wants the best bench in the NBA. Jimmer would be lightning in a bottle offensively with the second unit.

I am a big Jimmer fan. I just hate having a bunch of one-dimensional players on our team. I would LOVE to get Marshon Brooks.

The length our second unit could have with Marshon would be ridiculous.

(Assuming Born Ready is actually ready)

PG - Lance (6'10.5" wingspan)
SG - Brooks (7'1" wingspan)
SF - George (6'11.25" wingspan)
PF - McBob (THANS50)
C- Fiesty Foster

1 - 3 are athletic long wings who can score.... Brooks and George will be able to defend and hopefully Lance will develop into a formidable defender. I think that 2nd unit could be very effective along with mix and matching any of those guys with the starters would create a very deep and attacking bench.

90'sNBARocked
06-08-2011, 11:25 PM
If Bird picks Jimmer, I will go Rumplestiltskin. I'm having nightmares now at the prospect of Bird selecting Jimmer. If some think I threw a hizzy fit over the drafting of Stephenson and Reid last year, it will be nothing compared to the drafting of Jimmer!!!!!!!

Last year was packed with bigs available in the 2nd, and he picked Stephenson and REID! I'd rather had a # of bigs in that round and let them develop, but Bird had to take "born ready". We see how ready "born ready" was!

If Bird gives a 2nd rounder a guaranteed contract this year, he needs to be strung up and quartered. He surely won't make the same mistake for the 3rd time! Hopefully, he has learned from his mistakes of White and Stephenson.

In all honesty I dont really blame Bird for james "flight" White

He played well enough in camp and it was a very minor contract. He had no trouble I am aware of off court

What I dont understand though is if you give him a 2 year contract, unless he is a off court problem, why noit let him devolp? Its not liked the Pacers were "stacked"at the 2

Haywoode Workman
06-08-2011, 11:42 PM
It's changed a lot, but my list at this point is:

1. ?No clear favorite
2. Kenneth Faried
3. Jimmer Fredette
4. Marshon Brooks
5. Reggie Jackson

I'd be happy with any of these guys.

edit: i'm only talking realistic guys, not including someone slipping

cdash
06-08-2011, 11:55 PM
I like the Jimmer or Marshon Brooks with our pick.

I'm mildly intrigued by Reggie Jackson, but I think people are way too smitten with him around here. I'm guessing they just saw "7'1" wingspan and know little else about him.

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 12:21 AM
I like the Jimmer or Marshon Brooks with our pick.

I'm mildly intrigued by Reggie Jackson, but I think people are way too smitten with him around here. I'm guessing they just saw "7'1" wingspan and know little else about him.

I personally watched him shutdown Harrison Barnes and have seen a few other games the kid is incredibly skilled and is a pg first but big enough to be a SG if he doesn't have success at pg in the league. That is why i want him I think he fits a big need a defensive pg and instant offense off the bench who can create for himself and others. He also has the potential to grow into a floor general in time he is highly intelligent and is pretty new to the pg position so he has room to grow. That is why i would like to draft him I cant speak for anyone else.

Anthem
06-09-2011, 12:52 AM
Last year was packed with bigs available in the 2nd, and he picked Stephenson and REID!
Who did you want instead of Reid?

Eleazar
06-09-2011, 01:34 AM
Who did you want instead of Reid?

Who cares about Reid we basically drafted Magnum.

Still not impressed with who the media has us taking. Unless Biyombo or Jackson I'd rather pass.

wseward
06-09-2011, 02:47 AM
I personally watched him shutdown Harrison Barnes and have seen a few other games the kid is incredibly skilled and is a pg first but big enough to be a SG if he doesn't have success at pg in the league. That is why i want him I think he fits a big need a defensive pg and instant offense off the bench who can create for himself and others. He also has the potential to grow into a floor general in time he is highly intelligent and is pretty new to the pg position so he has room to grow. That is why i would like to draft him I cant speak for anyone else.

At 15 Marshon answers a number of concerns with our team... he is great at penetrating to the rim, has a good enough jumper to be a threat in the league, and can knock down the mid range. His passing ability is suspect and can turn the ball over a lot at times, but I think a lot of those concerns were from him being the primary scorer on his college team. I personally think Marshon could have a Jamal Crawford type impact off the bench at the peak of his career, just an instant offense guy.


I think Reggie Jackson would be a great option if we traded down in the draft. If we were to walk away with Reggie at 15 I wouldn't mind that. There isn't much value at 15 for Reggie when he is projected at going late 1st round.

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 03:00 AM
At 15 Marshon answers a number of concerns with our team... he is great at penetrating to the rim, has a good enough jumper to be a threat in the league, and can knock down the mid range. His passing ability is suspect and can turn the ball over a lot at times, but I think a lot of those concerns were from him being the primary scorer on his college team. I personally think Marshon could have a Jamal Crawford type impact off the bench at the peak of his career, just an instant offense guy.


I think Reggie Jackson would be a great option if we traded down in the draft. If we were to walk away with Reggie at 15 I wouldn't mind that. There isn't much value at 15 for Reggie when he is projected at going late 1st round.

If Larry feels he will be the best player for the team sure there is value. Value is in the eye of the beholder. He hasn't even got the chance to workout yet lets wait and see after workouts. ESPN has said several teams have him rated in the lottery. I think Larry demonstrated he doesn't draft for value or what mocks say. Drafting Tyler Hans in 09 he was projected to go in the 20s by some pre draft Larry drafted him 13th.

Reggie Jackson was one of the best point guards in college this past season if Larry thinks he is a good fit Larry will take him. I think Larry will take Tristan Thomson or Bismack if there. He has said multiple times we need a athletic shot-blocking PF.

But honestly I have no clue who we take this draft is gonna be really crazy. I could see us taking 10 different guys. There isn't much talent difference between picks 10-25 IMO.

CooperManning
06-09-2011, 03:15 AM
As of now my dream realistic/semi-realistic scenario is Marshon at 15, then trade Rush and a future 2nd to OKC (#24) or NJ (#27) to get Reggie. Then get a big at #42. Would also be cool with taking Faried at 24 or 27 if he somehow falls that far.

Richard_Skull
06-09-2011, 05:13 AM
I will literally cry for days maybe weeks and longer if Bismack is taken one pick before us.

Speed
06-09-2011, 07:30 AM
I said trade out, before, but now I would like to get 2nd first rounder. Targeting Jimmer or Marshon Brooks and Faried with the two picks.

Of course if Biyombo drops to 15 take him, get back in and get Brooks or Jimmer.

I think you can get two very good bench rotation guys in this draft, if you can work it.

I'm add Motiejunas to this list of guys I want with two picks. He may be one of the top 3 most skilled guy in the draft, imho, and he's projected in the 20s.

There aren't superstars in this draft, but there is a ton of guys who can help you.

Pick one from each group and you have a big time draft, imo.

Jimmer
Marshon Brooks

Biyombo
Faried
Motiejunas

owl
06-09-2011, 08:33 AM
I said trade out, before, but now I would like to get 2nd first rounder. Targeting Jimmer or Marshon Brooks and Faried with the two picks.

Of course if Biyombo drops to 15 take him, get back in and get Brooks or Jimmer.

I think you can get two very good bench rotation guys in this draft, if you can work it.

I'm add Motiejunas to this list of guys I want with two picks. He may be one of the top 3 most skilled guy in the draft, imho, and he's projected in the 20s.

There aren't superstars in this draft, but there is a ton of guys who can help you.

Pick one from each group and you have a big time draft, imo.

Jimmer
Marshon Brooks

Biyombo
Faried
Motiejunas

This pretty much sums up my feelings. There are some other combinations I would not be upset with such as Darius Morris and a big(Faried or Biyombo). I really would like to get a second first. Biyombo is at the top of my list and I believe trading up to get him would not
be a bad idea depending on the cost. Certainly not another first, at least not next years, possibly 2013's first. BB is exactly what the Pacers need on the front line to place beside
Hibbert and relief for Hibbert.

PacerGuy
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
... I would like to get 2nd first rounder. Targeting Jimmer or Marshon Brooks and Faried with the two picks.

Of course if Biyombo drops to 15 take him...

I'm add Motiejunas to this list of guys I want with two picks. He may be one of the top 3 most skilled guy in the draft...

Pick one from each group and you have a big time draft, imo.

Jimmer
Marshon Brooks

Biyombo
Faried
Motiejunas

I like the same 5, but I'm adding 2 for a top 7, & making 3 tiers over the 2. My order/ tiers are close too, but a bit different.

-Biyombo: A long, young defensively skilled big C/PF to pair w/ Roy & Tyler.
-Brooks: Explosive scorer, allows P.George to play some 3, "Kobe-esk"?
-Jimmer: Shooting! I like his skill set, think he will have a very solid career.

-Motiejunas: Top talent, big, most Q's are about attitude (drive) not skill.
-Selby: Lottery talent, if you think he is a PG he stays here, if not he drops.
-R.Jackson: If talent is as spoken, he could be a steal. Big PG - nuff said.

-Faried: Love the motor & skill set, concerned he is too much like Tyler.

Ownagedood
06-09-2011, 10:07 AM
Man seeing all these "mock drafts" just really emphasises to me how bad a draft it seems

Personally hope we package 15 in a trade

Personally i think its not so much weak as its just a toss up.. A ton of role players, there just isn't a clear cut line of who is going to be an All-star and who is just going to be a sixth man or regular starter.. This is a good draft to build a team up in specific needs, for instance, if you need a good rebounder, there are mutliple guys that are great rebounders that will be available.. Great shooter, there are a few, etc.This draft is full of team fillers, role players that is very important to surround your team with. There are also probably a few very good players that just seem like "meh" players to us right now, but will turn into great picks, you just have to find the ones that it will be.. I think it just seems relatively weak to us because we need a star, not more role players. We have all the role players we need we just need our fearless leader now. Still would be a good draft to stay in, IMO.

The Sleeze
06-09-2011, 10:29 AM
I like the idea of Biyombo or Brooks at 15, I'm not really a Jimmer fan either.

If we can get in the late first round, I still lean a little towards Darius Morris over Reggie Jackson just because of his passing ability and assists numbers, but personally I would be happy with either one.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 10:31 AM
I like the idea of Biyombo or Brooks at 15, I'm not really a Jimmer fan either.

If we can get in the late first round, I still lean a little towards Darius Morris over Reggie Jackson just because of his passing ability and assists numbers, but personally I would be happy with either one.
If we draft Brooks then I want to flip Rush into a late pick and draft a pg or JJ.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 10:36 AM
In all honesty I dont really blame Bird for james "flight" White

He played well enough in camp and it was a very minor contract. He had no trouble I am aware of off court

What I dont understand though is if you give him a 2 year contract, unless he is a off court problem, why noit let him devolp? Its not liked the Pacers were "stacked"at the 2


IIRC, White had attitude problems in camp, thus the reason for being cut. Wasn't it RC's decision to cut White? The Pacers ate $400,000 a year for 2 years for White's guaranteed contract. How could that not be Bird's fault as he was the one who picked White in the draft and gave White the guaranteed contract?

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 10:39 AM
IIRC, White had attitude problems in camp, thus the reason for being cut. Wasn't it RC's decision to cut White? The Pacers ate $400,000 a year for 2 years for White's guaranteed contract. How could that not be Bird's fault as he was the one who picked White in the draft and gave White the guaranteed contract?
Didn't we trade up to get him too? I remember it cost us a future second.

Ownagedood
06-09-2011, 10:46 AM
Didn't we trade up to get him too? I remember it cost us a future second.

I thought his talent was worth it.. He was extremely athletic and could change games with his dunks and was a good shot blocker too if i remember correctly.. His "attitude" was the only problem i guess. Because talent wise, i thought he was an amazing pick, 2nd round, making minimum salary.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 11:00 AM
Who did you want instead of Reid?


By the time of that pick, there wasn't but 1 big left... Caracter. I never advocated for Caracter, but the Pacers needed a BIG. I know Reid plus $ was turned into Rolle, but he wasn't even a player that I can remember who was ever mentioned on this board prior to the Pacers getting him from Minnie. Then he like so many got oversold only to be cut. It was a wasted pick that should have been used in a trade to move up.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 11:23 AM
I thought his talent was worth it.. He was extremely athletic and could change games with his dunks and was a good shot blocker too if i remember correctly.. His "attitude" was the only problem i guess. Because talent wise, i thought he was an amazing pick, 2nd round, making minimum salary.
Hindsight being 20/20 I would have rather had Milsap. :p

Ownagedood
06-09-2011, 11:56 AM
Hindsight being 20/20 I would have rather had Milsap. :p

Ha true. We tried. :o

MyFavMartin
06-09-2011, 12:05 PM
Sign me up for Marshon and Jordan Williams please.

wseward
06-09-2011, 12:32 PM
If Larry feels he will be the best player for the team sure there is value. Value is in the eye of the beholder. He hasn't even got the chance to workout yet lets wait and see after workouts. ESPN has said several teams have him rated in the lottery. I think Larry demonstrated he doesn't draft for value or what mocks say. Drafting Tyler Hans in 09 he was projected to go in the 20s by some pre draft Larry drafted him 13th.

Reggie Jackson was one of the best point guards in college this past season if Larry thinks he is a good fit Larry will take him. I think Larry will take Tristan Thomson or Bismack if there. He has said multiple times we need a athletic shot-blocking PF.

But honestly I have no clue who we take this draft is gonna be really crazy. I could see us taking 10 different guys. There isn't much talent difference between picks 10-25 IMO.

You see it quite often in professional drafts... where teams trade down to get the player they want, to extract the most value out of the drafted player.

The value of Reggie Jackson is determined by who drafts him. If Bird knows that there are 5 teams below us that aren't going to draft Reggie, why take him at 15 when we can trade down pick up some more pieces or 2nd round picks to draft him at 20.

Obviously this is all hypothetical, but if we value Reggie high at 15 but the rest of the league values him at 20, why should we waste our pick at 15 when we can trade down pick up more pieces and draft Reggie at 20. We would still end up with Reggie, but we would extract the most amount of value out of the pick.

I know Bird has taken who he wants in the past with Hansbrough and one big question mark is we have yet to know where Reggie is slotted to go in this draft.

ECKrueger
06-09-2011, 12:38 PM
Because you don't KNOW what teams will do. You want a guy, you get him.

wseward
06-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Because you don't KNOW what teams will do. You want a guy, you get him.

You don't know but you have a damn good idea. If you KNOW a couple teams below you our deep at the PG position then you trade down. If there is still a better player at the PG position than Reggie, you trade down.

ECKrueger
06-09-2011, 12:55 PM
So what if someone else likes him enough to trade up after you trade back? If your guy is there at 15 and you want him, I draft him. I don't care if he is "supposed" to go around 20 or not.

Speed
06-09-2011, 12:59 PM
So what if someone else likes him enough to trade up after you trade back? If your guy is there at 15 and you want him, I draft him. I don't care if he is "supposed" to go around 20 or not.

Agreed, but if you can pick up additional assets by moving back and still get the guy you want, you should. Not possible often. The speculation was that maybe this could have happened with Tyler, I think it was.

wseward
06-09-2011, 01:02 PM
So what if someone else likes him enough to trade up after you trade back? If your guy is there at 15 and you want him, I draft him. I don't care if he is "supposed" to go around 20 or not.

Any team that is trading up will most likely be talking to the same teams we would be, assuming we were trying to trade down.

I would imagine Bird and Co. would catch wind of someone trying to trade up to a similar position that we were targeting to trade down to.

Pacersalltheway10
06-09-2011, 01:07 PM
I expect Bird to be active in trying to aqquire another first rounder. He tried to last year for Lance.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 01:15 PM
I expect Bird to be active in trying to aqquire another first rounder. He tried to last year for Lance.
And failed. I'm not betting that he will be able to get an additional pick.

ECKrueger
06-09-2011, 01:17 PM
Agreed, but if you can pick up additional assets by moving back and still get the guy you want, you should. Not possible often. The speculation was that maybe this could have happened with Tyler, I think it was.

If it were trading back from 10 or so to 20 that is one thing, but trading from 15 to 20 or so is not going to get you much, especially this year. It is different if it is a guy you want vs. "your guy" also.

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 01:21 PM
Agreed, but if you can pick up additional assets by moving back and still get the guy you want, you should. Not possible often. The speculation was that maybe this could have happened with Tyler, I think it was.

That is to much risk IMO. Like Purdue said if he is your guy that the whole draft team wants you take him at 15 regardless of what is value is on mock drafts. It would suck to trade back 5 spots just for another asset then lose the guy you wanted. However if the draft team has 5 guys you like still on the board but not one you love you can trade back and get one of your guys and the extra asset.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 01:23 PM
That is to much risk IMO. Like Purdue said if he is your guy that the whole draft team wants you take him. It would suck to trade back 5 spots just for another asset then lose the guy you wanted. However if the draft team has 5 guys you like still on the board but not one you love you can trade back and get one of your guys and the extra asset.
I think its safe to assume that Bird will not trade back in this draft. He said he had 4 guys that he wanted and one of those four should drop to the 15th spot. I have no clue if the workouts have change any of that but the only guy that could have imo is Brooks.

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 01:36 PM
Plus with Reggie Jackson here is some quotes from ESPN

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/30582/should-reggie-jackson-stay-in-the-draft


Jackson is a fantastic player, one of the best and most efficient offensive players in the country at any position in 2011


The Eagles star is getting mixed signals from the NBA. Some GMs think he's a lottery pick. Others see a late first or early second-round talent at best

I think If he had the chance to workout(where his athleticism and scoring ability and point guard skills would shine) he would go 9-21 no doubt now with his injury it is gonna be hard to judge where he goes.

Trophy
06-09-2011, 01:42 PM
As far as big men go, I actually like Donatas Motiejunas who hasn't worked out for anyone.

He'd add some depth and brings that unique big man international style of offense like Pau Gasol by shooting away from the hoop as well as play the post pretty well.

If he's there at 15, I'd be happy to grab him.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 01:42 PM
I expect Bird to be active in trying to aqquire another first rounder. He tried to last year for Lance.


It's one failure I'm glad that happened!! It's bad enough at #40.

Pacersalltheway10
06-09-2011, 01:42 PM
My list:

1. Biyombo
2. Reggie Jackson
3. Marshon Brooks

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 01:46 PM
As far as big men go, I actually like Donatas Motiejunas who hasn't worked out for anyone.

He'd add some depth and brings that unique big man international style of offense like Pau Gasol by shooting away from the hoop as well as play the post pretty well.

If he's there at 15, I'd be happy to grab him.

He is working out Saturday and Sunday for all NBA teams at Euro Camp. I love his passing ability and he has very good post moves with a nice jump shot. But the guy cant rebound and is a little below ave on defense. I wouldn't be opposed because he would fit a huge need he could be the 3rd big playing PF and C. I question his work ethic and desire at times but the kid has game.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 01:50 PM
15 to 20 or so is not going to get you much, especially this year.


That's too broad of a statement to be held as true. It depends how badly another team wants to move up to get player X b4 another team does.

Just remember what Bird gave to get the infamous James White. That years 2nd round pick, Alex Johnson, and 2 future 2nd round picks. Bird wanted White badly, so he was willing to pay to get him.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 01:59 PM
He is working out Saturday and Sunday for all NBA teams at Euro Camp. I love his passing ability and he has very good post moves with a nice jump shot. But the guy cant rebound and is a little below ave on defense. I wouldn't be opposed because he would fit a huge need he could be the 3rd big playing PF and C. I question his work ethic and desire at times but the kid has game.
I would rather bring over the Stank than draft Mont at 15. Rush for Mont however I would consider a good deal.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 01:59 PM
I think its safe to assume that Bird will not trade back in this draft. He said he had 4 guys that he wanted and one of those four should drop to the 15th spot. I have no clue if the workouts have change any of that but the only guy that could have imo is Brooks.


Again, that depends on what he can get in return for trading down. I don't think anything in the draft is safe to assume.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 02:02 PM
I would rather bring over the Stank than draft Mont at 15. Rush for Mont however I would consider a good deal.

I'd consider Rush for most a good deal.

Gamble1
06-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Again, that depends on what he can get in return for trading down. I don't think anything in the draft is safe to assume.
Well obviously if someone offers you something you can't refuse then you take it but if Bird says he likes 4 guys that means he likes 4 guys and he will pick one of them that has droped to 15. He didn't risk it with Tyler and I dont' think he will risk it in this draft when basically everyones draft board is all over the place.

TheDon
06-09-2011, 02:11 PM
My list:

1. Biyombo
2. Reggie Jackson
3. Marshon Brooks

Looks good to me I also wouldn't mind taking a shot at Selby either if the opportunity was there. Then a distant 5th of someone I wouldn't be upset about is Faried, i'd understand it but I wouldn't be jumping for joy. I think this draft is going to be interesting to say the least.

Rogco
06-09-2011, 04:17 PM
I said trade out, before, but now I would like to get 2nd first rounder. Targeting Jimmer or Marshon Brooks and Faried with the two picks.

Of course if Biyombo drops to 15 take him, get back in and get Brooks or Jimmer.

I think you can get two very good bench rotation guys in this draft, if you can work it.

I'm add Motiejunas to this list of guys I want with two picks. He may be one of the top 3 most skilled guy in the draft, imho, and he's projected in the 20s.

There aren't superstars in this draft, but there is a ton of guys who can help you.

Pick one from each group and you have a big time draft, imo.

Jimmer
Marshon Brooks

Biyombo
Faried
Motiejunas

Exactly! Take Marshon at 15, plug him into the starting SG spot, trade rush to pick Faried later in the draft, then get Mack in the 2nd.

Justin Tyme
06-09-2011, 06:09 PM
Exactly! Take Marshon at 15, plug him into the starting SG spot, trade rush to pick Faried later in the draft, then get Mack in the 2nd.


Sorry, the Pacers already have a starting SG in Paul George. Marshon needs to beat out George for the job, not inherit the starting SG job b/c he looks good on paper.

Pacersalltheway10
06-09-2011, 06:25 PM
If Utah wants Jimmer at 12 , and we want Biyombo and if he falls would Utah be open to a Rush, Jimmer for Biyombo swap. Then trade D. jones for a late first rounder to get Reggie Jackson and select a wing with #42.

xBulletproof
06-09-2011, 07:01 PM
but I think people are way too smitten with him around here. I'm guessing they just saw "7'1" wingspan and know little else about him.

I think you more or less described my feelings on Biyambo. Who actually knows anything about him, including his actual age? :laugh:

pacer4ever
06-09-2011, 07:05 PM
I think you more or less described my feelings on Biyambo. Who actually knows anything about him, including his actual age? :laugh:

Kanter also that can be said about no scout has enough footage on Kanter to know what kind of pro he will be. It is a risk to take him he hasn't played ball in a few years. There just isnt a lot of tape on him. Some new prep tape on him just surfaced but there is a lot more film on Jonas and Donatas and even Bismack then Kanter.

CooperManning
06-09-2011, 07:10 PM
If Utah wants Jimmer at 12 , and we want Biyombo and if he falls would Utah be open to a Rush, Jimmer for Biyombo swap. Then trade D. jones for a late first rounder to get Reggie Jackson and select a wing with #42.

Unfortunately, no. The Suns could very well take Jimmer at #13. If Utah wants him, they'll get him at #12.

pwee31
06-09-2011, 07:19 PM
Hilarious to read people just assume the Pacers can take a certain player and then easily trade Rush or Dahntay for an additional 1st round pick.

How many of you would trade your 1st round pick for Brandon Rush or Dahntay Jones? Seriously

Even if you consider this a weak draft, I would rather gamble on the rookie coming in hungry trying to make a name for himself, then Rush

CooperManning
06-09-2011, 08:00 PM
No one would give a first for Dahntay. I think we could potentially get a late first for Rush and a 2nd (ideally a future 2nd). Rush could be a solid bench player for a decent team next year and still has some room to improve. It'd be hard to find someone in the 23-30 range that could contribute right away. A team like OKC (24 pick) could value Rush having a few NBA seasons under his belt; they certainly don't need more youth. Also, they could pay Rush for one year and be done with him, while a rookie first rounder is a longer salary commitment. I'm not saying it's likely someone's going to take Rush for a late first, but it's not impossible.

Sparhawk
06-09-2011, 08:21 PM
Hilarious to read people just assume the Pacers can take a certain player and then easily trade Rush or Dahntay for an additional 1st round pick.

How many of you would trade your 1st round pick for Brandon Rush or Dahntay Jones? Seriously

Even if you consider this a weak draft, I would rather gamble on the rookie coming in hungry trying to make a name for himself, then Rush

This is a weak draft, so I could see either getting a first back. Now next year's draft, probably not.

BornReady
06-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Hilarious to read people just assume the Pacers can take a certain player and then easily trade Rush or Dahntay for an additional 1st round pick.

How many of you would trade your 1st round pick for Brandon Rush or Dahntay Jones? Seriously

Even if you consider this a weak draft, I would rather gamble on the rookie coming in hungry trying to make a name for himself, then Rush

Nobody's assuming anything. We're merely discussing whether or not it'd be feasible to trade Rush for a late 1st rounder, and who we'd want if that were to happen. In fact, you're the one assuming that you have us all figured out.

pwee31
06-09-2011, 09:30 PM
Nobody's assuming anything. We're merely discussing whether or not it'd be feasible to trade Rush for a late 1st rounder, and who we'd want if that were to happen. In fact, you're the one assuming that you have us all figured out.

You're right I'm wrong. Rush is definitely worth a 1st round pick

bphil
06-09-2011, 10:13 PM
With all due respect to Chad Ford, who admitted that he doesn't have a great feel for this draft, this mock seems really out of whack to me. I like Brooks. I don't think he'll be there at 15. I have a bad feeling that we're going to get stuck with one of the corny Euros because I just can't believe that so many of them will go as high in the draft as everyone is assuming. Ugh.

Kstat
06-09-2011, 10:17 PM
Corny Euros? Seriously?

Chad Ford has a very good feel for the college prospects. His feel for foreign players is pure crap.

wintermute
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Not a big fan of Marshon Brooks. He may have Kobe's playing style, but he doesn't have Kobe's talent. I think he'll end up being a chucker.


As far as big men go, I actually like Donatas Motiejunas who hasn't worked out for anyone.

He'd add some depth and brings that unique big man international style of offense like Pau Gasol by shooting away from the hoop as well as play the post pretty well.

If he's there at 15, I'd be happy to grab him.

Not quite "unique big man international style", as Kstat has posted before that could describe Rasheed Wallace as well. Donatas is a dark horse for me. On the one hand he's clearly talented, on the other hand the lack of motor is very concerning. I think I've seen him described as the kind of pick (or non-pick) that gets a GM fired.

I think Bulls might be willing to trade for Rush using one of their picks (#28 and #30). They aren't high picks anyway, and it seems like the Bulls would prefer a veteran to a rookie taking up those roster spots.

eldubious
06-10-2011, 02:21 PM
As far as big men go, I actually like Donatas Motiejunas who hasn't worked out for anyone.

He'd add some depth and brings that unique big man international style of offense like Pau Gasol by shooting away from the hoop as well as play the post pretty well.

If he's there at 15, I'd be happy to grab him.

Based on pure talent, he's one of the best players in the draft. Along with Singleton, those are two players that should be high on the Pacers list.

ensergio
06-10-2011, 07:36 PM
"He may have Kobe's playing style"

I confess that i don't know what is kobe's playing style.

Really?
06-10-2011, 07:55 PM
"He may have Kobe's playing style"

I confess that i don't know what is kobe's playing style.

His playing style is called "BEAST" :D

mikeyism
06-10-2011, 08:36 PM
Five mock drafts have us taking Fredette. Three have Klay Thompson, two have Tristan Thompson, and one each for Faried and Nolan Smith.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/05/18/consensus.mock.draft/index.html

wintermute
06-10-2011, 09:00 PM
"He may have Kobe's playing style"

I confess that i don't know what is kobe's playing style.

Brooks himself says that he idolizes Kobe. He copies Kobe's moves, and even his on-court mannerisms.

My chief concern with Brooks is that he takes a lot of shots. Kobe can get away with that because he's an awesome scorer. Is Brooks really that talented? It's true that he scored a lot of points for his NCAA team, but you wonder whether that would carry over.

Hoop
06-11-2011, 02:10 AM
Five mock drafts have us taking Fredette. Three have Klay Thompson, two have Tristan Thompson, and one each for Faried and Nolan Smith.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/05/18/consensus.mock.draft/index.html

I'll admit it, at first the thought of Jimmer made me sick, but I'm a convert, I think. He has better size and athleticism than I first thought. Can really shoot the ball, could be a good back PG.

I have about zero interest in Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson or Nolan Smith.

Faried is interesting, I like him alot, but his size could be a problem.

BornReady
06-11-2011, 02:16 AM
Five mock drafts have us taking Fredette. Three have Klay Thompson, two have Tristan Thompson, and one each for Faried and Nolan Smith.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/05/18/consensus.mock.draft/index.html

the Nolan Smith one also has Kemba Walker going #21 -.-

Hoop
06-11-2011, 02:37 AM
NBA.com (David Aldridge) - Nolan Smith
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/05/16/mock-draft/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

NBA.com (Scott Howard-Cooper) - Klay Thompson
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/27/mock-draft-part-ii/index.html

DraftExpress (DraftExpress.com) - Jimmer Fredette
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

SI.com (Sam Amick) - Tristan Thompson
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/05/25/mock.draft.2/index.html

Sporting News (Sean Deveney) - Klay Thompson
[/URL]http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/feed/2011-03/2011-nba-draft/story/reassessing-the-nba-draft-after-combine-in-chicago (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/05/25/mock.draft.2/index.html)

Inside Hoops (InsideHoops.com) - Jimmer Fredette
[URL]http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-mock-draft.shtml

NBA Draft.net (nbadraft.net) - Klay Thompson
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

NBA Draft Insider (Kristofer Habbas) - Jimmer Fredette
http://www.nbadraftinsider.com/2011-mock-draft/

Hoops World (hoopsworld.com) - Iman Shumpert
http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/FullMockDraft.asp

SB Nation (Tom Ziller) - Kenneth Faried
http://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2011/5/24/2187295/nba-mock-draft-2011-kyrie-irving-utah-jazz-enes-kanter

The Hoops Report (thehoopsreport.com) - Tristan Thompson
http://thehoopsreport.com/draft.aspx

Mourning
06-11-2011, 01:15 PM
Thx for the links, Hoop :thumbsup:

Shabazz
06-13-2011, 02:40 AM
I am new here but here is the mock draft.


Despite the fact the draft is only two weeks away, there is still a lot of confusion about who is going where.

"I know who is going [Nos.] 1 and 2," one lottery GM told ESPN.com. "After that, I don't have a clue."

A number of GMs in the lottery are reporting the same thing, but teams are beginning to narrow down the list of who's going where.

In this mock draft we'll not only make an educated guess as to who's going where, but we'll also give you a look at the other possible picks for each team. Here's our most informed take, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, on how the draft might play out.

PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke

Analysis: Derrick Williams' camp is doing its best to cast doubt on the Cavs' coronation of Irving as the No. 1 pick. But with two weeks to go, all signs still point to Cleveland selecting Irving first. Williams is still in the picture here in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4. But sources say it's Irving's to lose.


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Minnesota


Derrick Williams
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona

Analysis: On Friday, I detailed the Timberwolves' draft strategies in the wake of signing Ricky Rubio to a contract. Here's the CliffsNotes version: Publicly, the team is claiming that they're likely to hang on to the pick. Privately, they're hoping that a team comes along and offers them an impact veteran -- someone such as Pau Gasol, Monta Ellis or even JaVale McGee -- for the pick.

If they get a good deal, they'll be more than happy to dump the pick. Rubio is their rookie this season. If they do keep the pick, expect them to take either Williams or Enes Kanter. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time the season starts.


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Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky

Analysis: The Jazz have already had a number of workouts but the big one comes June 15 when Knight, Walker and Jimmer Fredette are all expected to work out for the team.

While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas or even Jan Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on June 15, that could push the Jazz to go for a big man here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.


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Cleveland



Enes Kanter
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey

Analysis: Kanter had just two workouts. Both were in Chicago and both had him playing against the proverbial chair. That changed on Tuesday when he went into Cleveland and worked out against Tristan Thompson and Marcus Morris.

Kanter would love to land in Cleveland and understands it will be tough for the Cavs to justify the pick unless he gives them more than the Nike Hoop Summit, the Chicago combine and some grainy high school video. It's still too early to see whether the Cavs go Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Kawhi Leonard, but those seem to be the four guys they're seriously looking at with the fourth pick.


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Toronto


Jan Vesely
Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic

Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of ways here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight's on the board, I don't think he gets passed on here. If Walker's here the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

He could go with an international player, such as Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the three, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board. He provides size and athleticism at the small forward position. The other dark horse here is Kawhi Leonard.


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Washington


Kawhi Leonard
Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State

Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the question becomes, "Who's the best player on the board?" The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

Valanciunas is an option. The Wizards could use more help in the middle -- but he's a bit more of a project. That leaves Leonard. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes.


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Sacramento


Kemba Walker
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn

Analysis: We continue to keep Walker planted here in Sacramento, though from what I can gather Geoff Petrie is considering a number of options, including trades. Petrie is in (and has been for two years) the same boat as Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld. His job isn't very secure and the past two years Petrie has opted for a "sure-thing" player who could produce in Year 1.

Walker is that guy at this point in the draft and, as an added bonus, he doesn't have the same character issues that Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins had.

Leonard would be another possibility if he's still available -- the Kings still need help at the small forward position. And don't count out Jimmer Fredette if Walker is off the board. Petrie loves shooters and Fredette would be a nice fit next to Evans.


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Detroit


Jonas Valanciunas
Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: After changing up the Pistons' mock for three straight weeks, we're finally steadying the boat a bit. The Pistons are really looking at five players: Valanciunas, Knight, Vesely, Biyombo and Tristan Thompson.

Biyombo and Thompson are the best fits of the group, but with new owner Tom Gores giving Joe Dumars some freedom to remake the Pistons don't be surprised to see the Pistons swing for the fences. Valanciunas is a risk, but his upside is high and he could be the long-term answer for the Pistons in the middle.


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Charlotte


Marcus Morris
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks -- to go with a proven product and swing for a double instead of a home run.

Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix here as well.


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Milwaukee


Alec Burks
Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado

Analysis: Last summer the Bucks went out and tried to boost their scoring output by re-signing John Salmons and trading for Corey Maggette. It didn't go so well. Between injuries and chemistry issues the Bucks stumbled.

Burks is one of the best scorers in the draft. His ability to get to the basket should give the Bucks a potent young backcourt.

Jordan Hamilton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo are other possibilities here.


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Golden State


Klay Thompson
Position: PG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington St.

Analysis: The Warriors have a new owner, a new head coach and new management. Of the three, the most important addition might be Jerry West, who knows how to build winners and is far from a wallflower.

The first shoe is already beginning to drop with word that the Warriors are open to moving Monta Ellis. His replacement? The sweet shooting Thompson, who has wowed in recent workouts. He has size, the pedigree and, most of all, the blessing of West. Marcus Morris and Alec Burks are other possibilities here.


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Utah


Chris Singleton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State

Analysis: With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency this summer, the Jazz are set to lose their most versatile defender. Enter Singleton. He's not the most polished offensive player in the world (sound familiar, AK-47 fans?), but his ability to guard multiple positions and his size for his position are intriguing for the Jazz.

With Singleton rising on many draft boards, the question is: Will he still be here at No. 12? Teams with picks as high as the Raptors (No. 5) are looking at him. Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here, too. Ditto for Bismack Biyombo.


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Phoenix


Tristan Thompson
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Thompson takes them decidedly in that direction.

He is a solid athlete, an excellent rebounder and gives the Suns some desperately needed toughness in the paint. Pair him in the frontcourt with Marcin Gortat and the Suns finally have some swagger. Burks, Fredette and Biyombo are all possibilities here as well.


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Houston


Bismack Biyombo
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo

Analysis: Biyombo is in the conversation as high as No. 5, but the general lack of information about him may cause his stock to slip. He's got the physical abilities to be excellent in the league, but he's a wild card.

The Raptors, Wizards, Pistons, Bucks and Jazz all will give him strong looks. I doubt he slips further than Houston. While small forward is a big need too (they like Marcus Morris, Jordan Hamilton and Tobias Harris there), at this point Biyombo is more reward than risk.


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Indiana


Jimmer Fredette
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young

Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step. Tristan Thompson, Kenneth Faried and Markieff Morris are all options here as well.


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Philadelphia


Jordan Hamilton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: The Sixers have been looking for a big man in the draft but the team could go in a different direction now that it appears Andre Iguodala is back on the block. The Sixers have also been hungry for shooters, and Hamilton is one of the most lethal scorers in the draft. Markieff Morris, Nikola Vucevic and Kenneth Faried are also possibilities here.


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New York


Josh Selby
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 195
Age: 20
School: Kansas

Analysis: GM Donnie Walsh has lost his job, but he's still calling the shots for the Knicks on draft night. Expect Walsh to go out with a bang. The Knicks are essentially looking at five players right now -- Klay Thompson, Fredette, Selby, Marshon Brooks and Kenneth Faried. Thompson and Fredette are off the board in our mock.

The Knicks have been looking long and hard at Selby for a while. They think he'd thrive in Mike D'Antoni's system that allows guards much more freedom than they get at Kansas. Selby has lottery talent, but a shaky résumé. This may be a risk taking him this high, but there's a very high upside.


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Washington
(via Atlanta)


Marshon Brooks
Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence

Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency and, coincidentally, Brooks has been compared to Young. Both players are long, athletic and can score. Brooks may have a little more killer instinct, though, that could make him a star. Tobias Harris, Markieff Morris, Kenneth Faried and Donatas Motiejunas are other possibilities here as well.


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Charlotte
(via New Orleans)


Markieff Morris
Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: A month ago I was in Florida with the Morris twins and big topic of discussion was the inevitability of the two brothers breaking up when they were drafted by different teams. We explored a number of options that could reunite them on the same team. This is really the only plausible one, and it's more plausible than you think.

The Bobcats are one of those teams that thinks the twins can play together. If it happens, you'll see two very happy twins on draft night. Brooks, Faried and Reggie Jackson are other names who could land here.


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Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Donatas Motiejunas
Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post. Brooks, Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities here.


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Portland


Kenneth Faried
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State

Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him.

His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style. Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson and Nikola Vucevic are other players to watch.


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Denver


Tobias Harris
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee

Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft. Nikola Vucevic, Charles Jenkins and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.


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Houston
(via Orlando)


Nikola Vucevic
Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC

Analysis: Even though we have the Rockets going big at No. 14, don't be surprised if they do it again here. Vucevic has helped himself as much as anyone in the workout process. He's got size, toughness and skill. He's not going to be a superstar thanks to a lack of explosive athleticism, but he'll be a very solid addition to the Rockets. Mirotic, Justin Harper and Darius Morris are other possibilities.


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Oklahoma City


Nikola Mirotic
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia

Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. If he stays in the draft -- a big "if" at this point -- someone will gamble on him. If it's Presti, he could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Bogan Bogdanovic and Lucas Nogueira are possibilities.


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Boston


JaJuan Johnson
Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 220
Age: 22
School: Purdue

Analysis:The Celtics need size, and Johnson is an intriguing pick here. He is long and athletic and stretches the floor with his jump shot. He needs to add strength, but his production at Purdue is hard to ignore. Justin Harper, Nikola Vucevic, Jon Leuer and Jeremey Tyler are also possibilities.


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Dallas


Davis Bertans
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia

Analysis: It's unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that's how some scouts were referring to him.

Bertans doesn't have Nowitzki's size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long term, he could be a really nice addition. Jon Leuer, JaJuan Johnson, Chandler Parsons and Jeremy Tyler could all be drafted here.


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New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College

Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

Had he not had a knee injury just as the draft evaluations began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here, too.


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Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond

Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need shooting, and Harper should be able to give them some from the perimeter. Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are possibilities here.


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San Antonio


Jeremy Tyler
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 263
Age: 19
Team: Tokyo Apache

Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas. But the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the pre-draft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.


PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


Chicago


Charles Jenkins
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 217
Age: 22
School: Hofstra

Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Jenkins' ability to play both backcourt positions is intriguing. He is big, strong, a very good shooter and one of the best pure scorers in the draft. He is a real sleeper. Tyler Honeycutt, Nolan Smith and Charles Goudelock are possibilities here as well.

Next Five In: Tyler Honeycutt, G, UCLA; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Darius Morris, PG, Michigan; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil



So the only position that the Charlotte Bobcats do not have a major need at is power forward, because they have Diaw and Thomas. So Chad Ford predicts the Bobcats will use both first round picks on twin power forwards?

LOL

Before anyone chimes in to mention that one of them might be able to play small forward, head coach Paul Silas was just quoted the other day that he sees them both as 4's in the NBA.

Shabazz
06-13-2011, 02:44 AM
So Kyrie Irving's agent flat out told all teams that his client will not work out head-to-head with other top point guards. Does this send out a red flag to anyone else?

He plays a handful of game in college due to injury, and now he refuses to show NBA teams what he could do against guys like Knight and Walker. Seems odd to me.

MUpaceSIC
06-13-2011, 07:51 AM
So Kyrie Irving's agent flat out told all teams that his client will not work out head-to-head with other top point guards. Does this send out a red flag to anyone else?

He plays a handful of game in college due to injury, and now he refuses to show NBA teams what he could do against guys like Knight and Walker. Seems odd to me.

Top picks do this every year. It is all their agents moves when it comes to that, but it makes sense. Why take the chance that you have one bad showing and fall from that top pedestal?

Since86
06-13-2011, 10:32 AM
Top picks do this every year. It is all their agents moves when it comes to that, but it makes sense. Why take the chance that you have one bad showing and fall from that top pedestal?

You've probably not been around long enough, so I'll decipher what he really meant.

"DUKE SUCKS AND UNC IS THE BEST!!"

cdash
06-13-2011, 11:05 AM
Top picks do this every year. It is all their agents moves when it comes to that, but it makes sense. Why take the chance that you have one bad showing and fall from that top pedestal?

I thought about answering that, but then I looked at who was posting, and what college Kyrie Irving went to.

The Sleeze
06-13-2011, 02:56 PM
NBA.com (David Aldridge) - Nolan Smith
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/05/16/mock-draft/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

NBA.com (Scott Howard-Cooper) - Klay Thompson
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/27/mock-draft-part-ii/index.html

DraftExpress (DraftExpress.com) - Jimmer Fredette
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

SI.com (Sam Amick) - Tristan Thompson
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/05/25/mock.draft.2/index.html

Sporting News (Sean Deveney) - Klay Thompson
[/URL]http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/feed/2011-03/2011-nba-draft/story/reassessing-the-nba-draft-after-combine-in-chicago (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/05/25/mock.draft.2/index.html)

Inside Hoops (InsideHoops.com) - Jimmer Fredette
[URL]http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-mock-draft.shtml

NBA Draft.net (nbadraft.net) - Klay Thompson
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

NBA Draft Insider (Kristofer Habbas) - Jimmer Fredette
http://www.nbadraftinsider.com/2011-mock-draft/

Hoops World (hoopsworld.com) - Iman Shumpert
http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/FullMockDraft.asp

SB Nation (Tom Ziller) - Kenneth Faried
http://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2011/5/24/2187295/nba-mock-draft-2011-kyrie-irving-utah-jazz-enes-kanter

The Hoops Report (thehoopsreport.com) - Tristan Thompson
http://thehoopsreport.com/draft.aspx

Three of them have already changed their picks(we will have no clue come draft night):

David Aldridge = Jimmer Fredette
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/06/13/mock-draft-2/index.html


Draft Express = Alec Burks
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/


Hoops Report = Jordan Hamilton
http://thehoopsreport.com/draft.aspx

Speed
06-13-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm glad Alridge changed from Nolan Smith, that just wasn't going to happen.

Speed
06-14-2011, 08:17 AM
Gery Woelfel: Bucks privately worked out Providence shhoting Marshon Brooks Sunday (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html) in Chicago. Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)

Justin Tyme
06-14-2011, 09:32 AM
Gery Woelfel: Bucks privately worked out Providence shhoting Marshon Brooks Sunday (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html) in Chicago. Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)



IMO, Marshon Brooks will be drafted b4 the Pacers #15 pick. Milwaukee has a need for a SG since none of the following of Maggette, Salmons, or CD-R could fill the bill last season.

Speed
06-14-2011, 09:38 AM
IMO, Marshon Brooks will be drafted b4 the Pacers #15 pick. Milwaukee has a need for a SG since none of the following of Maggette, Salmons, or CD-R could fill the bill last season.

His rise in the draft is compared to Paul George, so it would make sense he goes #10 to the Bucks.

I think one of the things to watch is if Klay Thompson and/or Tristian Thompson go before the Pacers pick, that would mean someone I like is probably dropping. Like Biyombo, Singleton, or even Marcus Morris.

Worst case, to me, is Jimmer, Marshon, and Burks are all gone and the Pacers take Faried or Tobias Harris. I'm okay with that.

To me, there are more than 15 players I like, so it should work out.

Speed
06-14-2011, 11:21 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/214119/Bucks_Work_Out_Marshon_Brooks


Marshon Brooks has more than piqued the curiosity of the Milwaukee Bucks.
Brooks, an athletic 6-foot-5 shooting guard from Providence, had a private workout for Bucks officials Sunday in Chicago.

Normally, the Bucks work out their draft prospects at their training facility in St. Francis. But because of a scheduling conflict, the Bucks and Seth Cohen, Brooks' agent, agreed to meet in the Windy City.

The Bucks put Brooks through a 1˝ hour workout and came away impressed. Assistant general manager Jeff Weltman and player personnel director Dave Babcock were among the Bucks officials in attendance.

"The Bucks like him a lot,'' Cohen said. "The Bucks are now looking to bring him there (to Milwaukee) for another workout.''

Via Gery Woelfel/Racine Journal Times (http://www.journaltimes.com/sports/article_983d0f5e-9644-11e0-9afa-001cc4c03286.html)


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/214119/Bucks_Work_Out_Marshon_Brooks#ixzz1PGRPQF2C

Speed
06-14-2011, 12:59 PM
New CNNSI Mock out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/06/14/mock.draft.3/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a1

PR07
06-14-2011, 01:49 PM
At this point, I want Marshon or Jimmer. I admittedly don't know a lot about Burks yet though.

Justin Tyme
06-14-2011, 02:03 PM
New CNNSI Mock out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/06/14/mock.draft.3/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a1


I can't believe Singleton will be there when the Pacers draft at #15. I like Marshon Brooks as well. I can't see Alex Burks available at #15. Both Darius Morris and Reggie Jackson have moved up to the 1st round. These seem to be my main interests at the present time.

ECKrueger
06-14-2011, 03:34 PM
New CNNSI Mock out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/06/14/mock.draft.3/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a1

They have us taking Brooks:


Behold the latest evidence that workouts truly matter in the eyes of NBA talent evaluators: Brooks is on the rise. One source says he was "ridiculous" in his Indiana workout on June 7 -- in a good way, of course -- scoring in a variety of ways that the Pacers could have used in their first-round playoff loss to Chicago. Boston College point guard Reggie Jackson is a possibility as well.

Also note this on the Celtics pick:


Apparently the Celtics aren't concerned about Jackson's minor knee surgery in mid-May, as a source insists he won't get past Boston. He would need some grooming, but the lengthy, two-way player could eventually be a dynamic option behind Rajon Rondo.

D-BONE
06-14-2011, 03:39 PM
Yes, and then the Celts turn around and trade us Jackson for something...BRush? (Hopefully!)

BPump33
06-15-2011, 12:48 PM
5.0 is up, but I'm not an insider. Help?

Hicks
06-15-2011, 01:49 PM
A new thread is preferable.