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Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

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    Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...-danny-granger

    Didn't see this posted. Danny had a 20 minute chat on ESPN today.

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    Danny Granger (1:17 PM)

    Hey guys. I'm chatting as part of the EAS Unstoppable Tour where we found one athlete to take on 30 different sports in 30 consecutive days in 30 cities across America. Sned me your questions, I'm ready!


    Carrington (Las Vegas)
    What was it like playing hoops with Lt. Sam Tickle during the EAS Unstoppabble Tour?

    Danny Granger (1:18 PM)
    It was a lot of fun. He had just come back from another event so he was a little tired but he did a great job. I gave him so NBA drills and they were a little challenging for him but he did good.

    Drew (San Diego, CA)
    Have you gone to visit our troops overseas? If not, is that something you would want to do?

    Danny Granger (1:19 PM)
    I went to Indonesia for a basketball event and I had the chance to visit troops over there. I would like to go overseas again to visit our troops. It's good to sit and talk with the men and women who protect and serve our country.

    Terry (Detroit)
    How do you feel about Scottie Pippen's comments regarding Lebron James being better than Michael Jordan?

    Danny Granger (1:20 PM)
    I don't really agree with it. I think LeBron is a great player and he will go down as one of the best players ever but he's not better than Jordan. A lot of players have modeled their game after Jordan. Jordan really changed the game of basketball. I think he will always be the greatest player.

    jake (kansas city)
    what do you think the pacers need to do to get to the next level?

    Danny Granger (1:22 PM)
    We are a fairly young team and experience comes with winning. Along with experience, I think another vetern would help us out.

    Drew (NY)
    who is the toughest defender you have faced

    Danny Granger (1:23 PM)
    I would have to say Ron Artest about three years ago. I was at his mercy, back then he was the most tenacious defender I've ever faced. LeBron isn't bad either.

    Cheesehead Sports Nut (Chicago, IL)
    I am not trying to get you fined here but if you could change one thing about the NBA, what would you change and why?

    Danny Granger (1:24 PM)
    I would probably change back-to-back games. It's tough flying from city-to-city, getting in at 2 am and playing a game at 7 pm. It's really tough on your body.

    Olivia (Indiana)
    Hi, I am 11 years old and I idolize you. I was wondering if you had any tips for me to exceed at a level you are at?

    Danny Granger (1:25 PM)
    The best advice I can give you is to keep working hard and keep doing the things that make you successful. Since you are still growing, you have to have the right nutrition because your body is still growing. The right nutrition is key to growing up strong.

    Jonathon Spunar (Livonia, MI)
    Who will be the biggest X-factor in the NBA Finals for the Heat outside of the Big 3?

    Danny Granger (1:26 PM)
    I'd have to say Joel Anthony. He matched up with Dirk a lot in Game 1. He can really change the series with the way he defends Dirk.
    Eric (Indi)

    What will be the main focus this offseason for your game?
    Danny Granger (1:27 PM)

    My main focus is to work on my isolation game. We had a more of a free-flowing offense last season so working on and getting better at my isolation game will help the offense run much more smoothly.
    Jon (Indy)

    Danny your the man! What about your game are you working to improve on this summer and is there any cool exotic places your going to travel to?
    Danny Granger (1:32 PM)

    Yes, this summer I'm going to Africa and Newfoundland, Canada. I'm also trying to plan a trip to Brazil. I've been there once and had a great time. I like to travel as much as I can in the offseason because there is just so many nice places to see.
    Danny Granger (1:33 PM)

    Go to www.unstoppabletour.com where you can see all the videos of our events. It a great cause supporting injured members of the U.S. Armed Forces and their families. Thanks for the questions. Continue to enjoy the NBA Finals and have a safe happy summer!
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    Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

    Danny should just quit with the iso talk he has never been an iso player and never will be.

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    • #3
      Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

      So, Danny wants to get his numbers up? He wants to iso more and get better at it?

      What about, I dunno, working on defense????? What about, say, working on improving court vision and awareness and helping to improve the "free flowing" offense that way????

      Maybe I was a little hasty with my no vote in the Minny trade thread...

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      • #4
        Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

        Man, some people will never like what they hear.

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        • #5
          Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

          Good chat questions and I think Danny's desire to work on his Iso-game makes sense. He does need to improve to the point that he can deliver more during the end of close games.

          However, I think Danny needs to work harder at getting open and moving without the ball. He can create off the dribble but he's so much better when he can move around screens, get open, catch and shoot. I think his skill-set is more of a Dirk type player than a Lebron or Kobe.

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            Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

            Originally posted by naptownmenace View Post
            However, I think Danny needs to work harder at getting open and moving without the ball. He can create off the dribble but he's so much better when he can move around screens, get open, catch and shoot.
            I like where you are going with this. I'll add, hopefully King George becomes the ISO guy and all Danny has to do is catch and shoot. We all know he is one of the best shooters in the league when it goes something like catch, set feet, square up and release.

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            • #7
              Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

              It says his MAIN FOCUS. Doesn't mean he isn't working on other stuff.

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                Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                Originally posted by naptownmenace View Post
                However, I think Danny needs to work harder at getting open and moving without the ball. He can create off the dribble but he's so much better when he can move around screens, get open, catch and shoot. I think his skill-set is more of a Dirk type player than a Lebron or Kobe.
                Dirk has plenty of iso's. They put him on the block and let him go to work.

                I would love to see Danny work on his high post game. (Not at the elbow, but at a 45degree angle.) Dirk does an excellent job with step-throughs to create space at that spot. He usually rises up off one foot and hits that bank shot. Obviously Danny doesn't need to recreate the shot, but Dirk's footwork to get space is spectacular.

                But that would fall into the category of an iso, so obviously he shouldn't work on that.
                “Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                  Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                  Originally posted by HickeyS2000 View Post
                  I like where you are going with this. I'll add, hopefully King George becomes the ISO guy and all Danny has to do is catch and shoot. We all know he is one of the best shooters in the league when it goes something like catch, set feet, square up and release.
                  PG has already shown the ability to get to the basket. Finishing is an entirely different story however.
                  “Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                    Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                    Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                    PG has already shown the ability to get to the basket.
                    ISO isn't always about getting to the basket. I want PG to become so good at isolation that defenders must sag off shooters like DG to play help defense. Danny could shoot above 50% on 3's if he always set his feet and squared-up. Unfortunately, he only does this less than half the time because he has to rush his shots.

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                      Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                      Originally posted by HickeyS2000 View Post
                      ISO isn't always about getting to the basket. I want PG to become so good at isolation that defenders must sag off shooters like DG to play help defense. Danny could shoot above 50% on 3's if he always set his feet and squared-up. Unfortunately, he only does this less than half the time because he has to rush his shots.
                      Well of course, but you have to have the ability to get to the rim before teams will start shading defenders and leaving open shooters.
                      “Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                        Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                        Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                        Well of course, but you have to have the ability to get to the rim before teams will start shading defenders and leaving open shooters.
                        I disagree. It's important, but not a must. Dirk is put in ISO all the time. He rarely gets to the rim and help defenders come all game long.

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                          Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                          When the most glaring weakness in his game is not his individual offense, IMO he should have his defense as his main focus. Then, he should have court awareness and movement be a secondary focus. He is in potential danger of becoming a smaller Al Harrington if he iso's too much while not focusing on defense in my opinion.

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                            Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                            Originally posted by HickeyS2000 View Post
                            I disagree. It's important, but not a must. Dirk is put in ISO all the time. He rarely gets to the rim and help defenders come all game long.
                            They send defenders over to help, when he's posting up and already 10-15ft from the basket. They don't send help when he catches the ball at 26ft.

                            And Dirk gets to the rim plenty. You don't get to the FT line nearly 10 times a game through jumpshots.



                            There's his shot chart during that huge game 1 performance against OKC. He took 1 shot outside of, what, 16-17ft?
                            Last edited by Since86; 06-01-2011, 04:54 PM.
                            “Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                              Re: Sportsnation Chat with Danny Granger

                              I'm fine with Granger's desire to improve on the iso.

                              He needs to improve his handles to be more of a factor at the end of games.

                              He already has the skills to play defense. He just needs the want to. Want to won't help him with his handles; he needs to work on them over the summer.
                              "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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