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Wilk39
04-26-2011, 07:12 AM
I believe his contract isn't up until after next season, but what are your thoughts on resigning him? I've always loved him since his work on CP3 in the playoffs a few years ago and I think he is showing us why he is in the NBA. Seeing as how the road to the Finals might go through Chicago for the next few years, do we resign him when the time comes barring a major injury?

Eleazar
04-26-2011, 07:16 AM
eh

daschysta
04-26-2011, 07:19 AM
I'd like to keep him on a reasonable contract. He's a good defensive player, gives us a different look to throw at rose, and seems to be a great teammate and veteran precense, even when he isn't getting minutes.

Roaming Gnome
04-26-2011, 07:42 AM
I'd like to keep him on a reasonable contract. He's a good defensive player, gives us a different look to throw at rose, and seems to be a great teammate and veteran precense, even when he isn't getting minutes.

I thought that he was on a very reasonable contract as far as per/year was concerned. Wasn't his contract bug a boo the length of his deal?

wintermute
04-26-2011, 07:48 AM
I like Dahntay too don't get me wrong but what our 4th wing/10th man decides to do in 2 seasons time is pretty low on my list of worries.

In all honesty his skillset is fairly easy to replace.

BRushWithDeath
04-26-2011, 07:48 AM
He's still got more time on his current deal. Once that is up, we could do worse than resigning him.

But I'd hope we could do better.

DocHolliday
04-26-2011, 08:09 AM
If it came down to it, I'd rather keep him than Rush.

Justin Tyme
04-26-2011, 09:46 AM
I believe his contract isn't up until after next season, but what are your thoughts on resigning him? I've always loved him since his work on CP3 in the playoffs a few years ago and I think he is showing us why he is in the NBA. Seeing as how the road to the Finals might go through Chicago for the next few years, do we resign him when the time comes barring a major injury?

Dahntay was signed for 4 years, and this is only the 2nd year of the 4 year contract. No need to even think about re-signing Dahntay while he has 2 more years on his contract. Re-visit this thought in 2013.

Justin Tyme
04-26-2011, 09:51 AM
If it came down to it, I'd rather keep him than Rush.


If I was a betting person, I'd bet Dahntay will still be a Pacer when Rush has exited Conseco for good.

eric1516
04-26-2011, 10:49 AM
If it came down to it, I'd rather keep him than Rush.

Completely agree. The defensive intensity more than compensates for his lack of offensive game. However, I would like for him to take away any jumpshots from his toolbox. The man cannot shoot. He can continue to drive it to the basket though because he will draw the foul.

docpaul
04-26-2011, 11:10 AM
I think his performance in the playoffs this year can once and for all put to bed the arguments around his contract size, whether or not it was a bad deal, etc etc.

2.7m next year, and a player option for 2.9m in 2012-2013.

In comparison, Rush's qualifying offer in 2012-2013 is 4 mil.

Inferno has without question performed just as he was expected to in the playoffs and the latter half of this season. If anything, he has exceeded general expectations.

Is he "amazingly good" value? Probably not. Is he fair to decent value? Of course! A really nice side benefit, is that the guy is a really good locker room presence it appears, and he lends a nice amount of swagger to the team during games.

A very complementary team presence, given his cost, IMO.

Hollinger was way off the mark on this one.

docpaul
04-26-2011, 11:17 AM
Completely agree. The defensive intensity more than compensates for his lack of offensive game. However, I would like for him to take away any jumpshots from his toolbox. The man cannot shoot. He can continue to drive it to the basket though because he will draw the foul.

Eh. A streaky shooter is different than someone who can't shoot. :)

He came up big in game 3 offensively IMO... with some nice jumpshots.

His overall offensive contributions are net average:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2008/dahntay-jones

Hicks
04-26-2011, 11:57 AM
He's still got more time on his current deal. Once that is up, we could do worse than resigning him.

But I'd hope we could do better.

How much better do you expect your 4th or 5th wing to be?

eric1516
04-26-2011, 12:42 PM
Eh. A streaky shooter is different than someone who can't shoot. :)

He came up big in game 3 offensively IMO... with some nice jumpshots.

His overall offensive contributions are net average:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2008/dahntay-jones

Thanks for posting his numbers. I didn't realize they were quite that high. I just want to continue to see him in the players face with nonstop defense!

Reginald
04-26-2011, 01:12 PM
I think Coach Vogel summed up DJ's value quite nicely. He's a guy who "gets under your chin" on defense. His physicality and George's length might be the most effective 1-2 counter to Rose in the league.

docpaul
04-26-2011, 01:42 PM
Thanks for posting his numbers. I didn't realize they were quite that high. I just want to continue to see him in the players face with nonstop defense!

:) I think DJ has two areas to work on:

1) Getting caught in ticky tacky defensive fouls early in the shot clock
2) Looking for his own shot perhaps a little too much. On this one, I'd say he's actually looking a little better in this regard during the playoff series (in our N of 2 :))

Oliver
04-26-2011, 02:12 PM
Keep im. He has shown a nice ability to be thrown into a close game and to get under the other teams skin and disrupt their tempo. If he starts making dumb choices and turnovers put him back on the pine till you need him again.

Wilk39
04-27-2011, 08:27 PM
I heard Wells on The Dakich Show today say there is a possibility the FO will try and get rid of Jones because of his "Alpha Male" attitude? Anyone else hear this?

El Pacero
04-27-2011, 08:34 PM
I heard Wells on The Dakich Show today say there is a possibility the FO will try and get rid of Jones because of his "Alpha Male" attitude? Anyone else hear this?

Yup, and that he influenced the younger players which wasn't always good. He was the guy in the locker room that always had something to say and was always right, and frustrated Bird (according to Wells.) I was kinda surprised.

It's online. http://www.1070thefan.com/dakich/podcast.aspx

Wilk39
04-27-2011, 08:42 PM
It shocked me very much as well. I like DJ and think he is underestimated as a player on this roster. Defense wins and his defensive contributions outweigh his offensive streakiness.

DrFife
04-27-2011, 08:56 PM
Let's ask Hollinger.

Justin Tyme
04-27-2011, 09:20 PM
Yup, and that he influenced the younger players which wasn't always good. He was the guy in the locker room that always had something to say and was always right, and frustrated Bird (according to Wells.) I was kinda surprised.

It's online. http://www.1070thefan.com/dakich/podcast.aspx


That's a really new insight into Dahntay! Where was this info when Bird went after him as a FA? Another failing in checking out players b4 acquiring them?

NapTonius Monk
04-27-2011, 09:46 PM
Yup, and that he influenced the younger players which wasn't always good. He was the guy in the locker room that always had something to say and was always right, and frustrated Bird (according to Wells.) I was kinda surprised.

It's online. http://www.1070thefan.com/dakich/podcast.aspx
I have nothing concrete to back this with, but it doesn't surprise me. Just a vibe I get from him. But I think it's one of those things that works out for him, and against him. In a way, it is both the best and worst thing about him.

NapTonius Monk
04-27-2011, 09:49 PM
That's a really new insight into Dahntay! Where was this info when Bird went after him as a FA? Another failing in checking out players b4 acquiring them?Denver didn't have as young a team as this, and also had stronger personalities to keep him in check. So maybe it didn't show in Denver like it did here.

jeffg-body
04-27-2011, 10:50 PM
I really like DJ a lot myself but I can see where he could get under your skin a little if you were his team mate. He pretty much says what he thinks regardless.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 10:58 PM
I heard Wells on The Dakich Show today say there is a possibility the FO will try and get rid of Jones because of his "Alpha Male" attitude? Anyone else hear this?

Yep I heard the same thing, so Larry doesn't like DJ because of the way he is in the locker room and he likes Lance, it looks to me like we were looking at the wrong guy few weeks ago.

Edit: Posey also got into Vogel's face at one time.

Constellations
04-28-2011, 12:46 AM
I really like DJ. I mainly love his EMOTION in the game. Me and the girlfriend were almost courtside at the T-Wolves game this season when Dahntay went nuts and his emotion just made smile and get cold chills. I really love the emotion he shows in the game, but I'm very passionate about the game, so when players show thier passion I love it.

I also love his cheerleading on the bench, lol. I would keep him with a reasonable contract.

Jon Theodore
04-28-2011, 01:29 AM
It boggles my mind, that this guy would not be considered the ultimate teammate, the kind of role player every team wants.

He is always cheering on the sidelines, always ready to play regardless of the circumstance, always playing at a high level of intensity, always communicating with his teammates.

The guy always plays hard on the defensive end, if he gets his offensive game going his defense suddenly becomes incredible. Sometimes he calls his own number too much, but at least he displays confidence while doing so. He never hesitates, he knows what he wants to do...regarldess of the end result.

I hope we keep him around, I think hes more valuable to this team than we all realize. if you take away his passion and intensity...I think everyone suffers from it.

Problem for Dahntay, is we don't have enough minutes to go around. I think Vogel handled playing time in the playoffs perfectly...I'm amazed to be saying that.

KEEP DAHNTAY!!!!!

Kraft
04-28-2011, 02:17 AM
Sometimes people don't want to hear the painful truth. If that's what Dahntay's saying in the locker room, I'm even more in his corner.

If he's the guy that says Lance Stephenson is a problem and it's ludicrous that he's getting playing time -- and that's just a made-up plausible example -- who here doesn't want that kind of voice in the locker room?

If he's the guy that has no problem telling the coach and management that some teammates aren't busting hump, who here doesn't want that voice?

If it's something other than that, it's a different story. I have no way of knowing.

But from the vibes Dahntay puts out, and his history (Duke?!), I'm thinking what he's saying is OK by me.

Kraft
04-28-2011, 02:21 AM
Denver didn't have as young a team as this, and also had stronger personalities to keep him in check. So maybe it didn't show in Denver like it did here.

What's he going to do, tell Carmelo Anthony he's taking bad shots? He's Carmelo Anthony. There aren't many bad shots.

I think the reason this stuff doesn't surface in Denver is simple. The Nuggets have a good, experienced coach. Back then, they had a good, talented team (and still do, to a point).

There was simply less to get frustrated about on a veteran ball club.

ksuttonjr76
04-28-2011, 02:52 AM
Who can we find cheaper and will do equal to or better than Jones? Please don't give me trade ideas that involves trying to get someone else's "young" or "high risk" player...