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MunciePacerBabe
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Did anyone who was there see him, sit around him, watch his reactions? The network showed that he was there but not where he was. I was just curious. I have my feelings....

Drewtone
04-24-2011, 02:16 PM
He's probably the one who dumped beer on Grandma McRoberts.

KingGeorge
04-24-2011, 02:18 PM
Was he the one wearing the Derrick Rose jersey and Bulls hat?

Drewtone
04-24-2011, 02:49 PM
Calling Magic Rat for the photo of Stern tipping the garbage can outside Conseco...

OR

Stern holding up the sign... "Rose, I'm your favorite Asian Girl"

MunciePacerBabe
04-24-2011, 02:57 PM
LOL. He did not look too happy during the camera shot....But of course, he never does when it comes to Indiana. Wonder what he thought of the rude Bulls fans? He probably thought we provoked them. Maybe he wanted to keep an eye on Foster to make sure he didn't hurt the star. And of course, how about Rose and his turned ankle...did we plan that? Making sure the refs were calling the "right" calls? The list goes on and on in my head......Gosh, I can't stand that guy!

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 03:02 PM
I should've went down there and ripped out his giant *** elephant ears.

Dr. Hibbert
04-24-2011, 03:04 PM
He's probably the one who dumped beer on Grandma McRoberts.

It all makes sense now. Trying to start another brawl and blame it all on the Pacers again. Probably blame the crowd this time since the game was at Conseco.

graphic-er
04-24-2011, 05:37 PM
He was probably thinking....Geez a home playoff game with majority Bulls fans. This team was last in attendance this year and at the bottom for many years and can't even sell out a playoff game with its own fans. I might need to help Herb move this team to more appreciative market.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 05:39 PM
He was probably thinking....Geez a home playoff game with majority Bulls fans. This team was last in attendance this year and at the bottom for many years and can't even sell out a playoff game with its own fans. I might need to help Herb move this team to more appreciative market.
Probably what he texted Clay Bennett during the game.

idioteque
04-24-2011, 05:44 PM
Probably what he texted Clay Bennett during the game.

Have you ever seen that e-mail exchange between them when they were plotting to move the Sonics? I think the adoration they have for each other can't be expressed in a simple text message.

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 05:46 PM
He was probably thinking....Geez a home playoff game with majority Bulls fans. This team was last in attendance this year and at the bottom for many years and can't even sell out a playoff game with its own fans. I might need to help Herb move this team to more appreciative market.

More like thank god theres all these Bulls fans. Otherwise I wouldn't have made it out of here in one piece!:D

Roaming Gnome
04-24-2011, 05:52 PM
David Stern was sitting about 8 or 9 rows behind the TNT broadcast table. There was no reaction in the arena because his mug never showed up on the jumbotron. The only way I noticed him in the building was because I sat right behind a media position that had a TNT feed when they showed him in the crowd.

Another give away for the commish being in the building was NBA Security having a presence in the building supervising the security check points entering the building!

Roaming Gnome
04-24-2011, 05:55 PM
More like thank god theres all these Bulls fans. Otherwise I wouldn't have made it out of here in one piece!:D

I didn't know empty seats could reach up and smack you around...

Yeah, casual Indy fan STILL doesn't get a pass from me for not coming out on Saturday. Yes, I'm aware of all the excuses.... I'm just not buying/hearing 'em!

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Have you ever seen that e-mail exchange between them when they were plotting to move the Sonics? I think the adoration they have for each other can't be expressed in a simple text message.
Yeah, I watched Sonicsgate and they seriously love each other. Sickening how Clay Bennett was able to lie his way out of everything.

Stern is a tool.

The Sonicsgate guy was behind the Thunder's bench last night in Denver. I love it.

Pacerfan
04-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Stern's thoughts: Why are the Pacers being so d*** hard? This series was supposed to be about the second coming of the Bulls and the second coming of Jordan. The Pacers have to be stopped before they make the Bulls look bad.

hoosierguy
04-24-2011, 06:02 PM
He was probably thinking....Geez a home playoff game with majority Bulls fans. This team was last in attendance this year and at the bottom for many years and can't even sell out a playoff game with its own fans. I might need to help Herb move this team to more appreciative market.

Where would that be?

Seattle doesn't have a new arena, Kansas City does but couldn't keep the Kings and already has two teams, one of which has terrible attendance.

PacersHomer
04-24-2011, 06:46 PM
I wish Artest and Stephen Jackson would go into the stands and beat the hell out of Stern when the Lakers and Bobcats play. God knows he deserves it.

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 07:01 PM
I wish Artest and Stephen Jackson would go into the stands and beat the hell out of Stern when the Lakers and Bobcats play. God knows he deserves it.

And then he'd react by suspending Foster for the rest of the season.


Sickening how Clay Bennett was able to lie his way out of everything.
If Seattle's then-mayor had any spine, Seattle may still have the Supersonics.

Justin Tyme
04-24-2011, 07:06 PM
I mentioned Stern at the game last night in the post game thread. He looked totally out of sorts about the way the game was going with the Pacers winning. Looked like someone carped in his Easter basket. I wonder if he'll show up in Chicago for game 5 to see the Pacers lose, I mean the Bulls win.

speakout4
04-24-2011, 07:13 PM
I mentioned Stern at the game last night in the post game thread. He looked totally out of sorts about the way the game was going with the Pacers winning. Looked like someone carped in his Easter basket. I wonder if he'll show up in Chicago for game 5 to see the Pacers lose, I mean the Bulls win.
I don't know. His office makes a bunch more money with additional games especially home team clinching and more suspense. Sweeps aren't good business.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 07:28 PM
I hate David Stern so much, but I clearly doubt of all 30 teams, he hates us the most.

I don't think he hates anyone. He's just totally unfair to the majority of the teams in this league.

About the Thunder, they're an easy team to like so I don't let ownership get in the way. They have a good group of young guys and KD is a superstar who isn't a dick.

Time for the Sonics fans to let it go. They're never getting the original Sonics back who are now the Thunder.

They need a new arena in Seattle before they try to get a team.

As it looks now, I don't think any team in the league is moving. Maybe if things don't work out for Anaheim, then the Kings can move to Seattle, but they need an arena since it'll be like deja vu in another city.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 07:36 PM
I didn't know empty seats could reach up and smack you around...

Yeah, casual Indy fan STILL doesn't get a pass from me for not coming out on Saturday. Yes, I'm aware of all the excuses.... I'm just not buying/hearing 'em!

Yeah I agree with you. While at the games this season and seeing a bunch of open seats I saw people spaced out and I saw people moving all the away over in rows.

We had 9,000 people in attendance 3 times this year which is half the arena filled.

I'm expecting to never see that again. I'm expecting to never see this many opposing fans at the Fieldhouse like yesterday afternoon.

I'm expecting to average 16,000+.

I'm looking forward to next season. I'm sure the Fieldhouse will be filled.

It's all new here in Indy and people are still adjusting.

The interest is higher than it's ever been since last making the playoffs so I'm fully expecting bigger crowds and us being a lot higher in the attendance standings.

People can't resist good solid Pacers basketball.

KingGeorge
04-24-2011, 07:37 PM
Time for the Sonics fans to let it go. They're never getting the original Sonics back who are now the Thunder.


If the Pacers were robbed from us after 41 years, would you let it go after 3 years?

I would still be very angry as well.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 07:37 PM
And then he'd react by suspending Foster for the rest of the season.


If Seattle's then-mayor had any spine, Seattle may still have the Supersonics.
The city let the fans down big time, I agree.


I hate David Stern so much, but I clearly doubt of all 30 teams, he hates us the most.

I don't think he hates anyone. He's just totally unfair to the majority of the teams in this league.

About the Thunder, they're an easy team to like so I don't let ownership get in the way. They have a good group of young guys and KD is a superstar who isn't a dick.

Time for the Sonics fans to let it go. They're never getting the original Sonics back who are now the Thunder.

They need a new arena in Seattle before they try to get a team.

As it looks now, I don't think any team in the league is moving. Maybe if things don't work out for Anaheim, then the Kings can move to Seattle, but they need an arena since it'll be like deja vu in another city.
Would you let it go that easy? It hasn't been that long, either. I think most Seattle fans know they aren't getting the "original" Sonics back. I would hope none thought that.

The fans of Seattle want a new team and to name that team the Sonics.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 07:40 PM
If the Pacers were robbed from us after 41 years, would you let it go after 3 years?

I would still be very angry as well.

Yeah I would be too, but I don't know what to say.

Sorry Seattle.

Nothing is going to change. The Thunder are a different team now no longer affiliated with Seattle.

KingGeorge
04-24-2011, 07:41 PM
Yeah I would be too, but I don't know what to say.

Sorry Seattle.

Nothing is going to change. The Thunder are a different team now no longer affiliated with Seattle.

They are a shared franchise. Even if Seattle gets another team, the Thunder still have the right to their championship. It sucks.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 07:44 PM
The city let the fans down big time, I agree.


Would you let it go that easy? It hasn't been that long, either. I think most Seattle fans know they aren't getting the "original" Sonics back. I would hope none thought that.

The fans of Seattle want a new team and to name that team the Sonics.

Honestly, the Kings look like they're the only team to be going somewhere.

Maybe Seattle will try to strike something to try and lure the move of the Kings there.

Key Arena seems like a nice place. I mean they still have a WNBA team there so it can hold up for an NBA team.

Based on how those people feel about the what was once Seattle SuperSonics, move the Kings up there and they won't care about the condition of the arena.

PS. I loved this logo.

http://www.sportsbook-bonus.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/seattlesupersonics-sportsbook-bonus.png

ilive4sports
04-24-2011, 07:52 PM
Honestly, the Kings look like they're the only team to be going somewhere.

Maybe Seattle will try to strike something to try and lure the move of the Kings there.

Key Arena seems like a nice place. I mean they still have a WNBA team there so it can hold up for an NBA team.

Based on how those people feel about the what was once Seattle SuperSonics, move the Kings up there and they won't care about the condition of the arena.



Seattle will not get a NBA team without having a new arena. And the Kings won't be going anywhere because Sacramento will build a new arena most likely.

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 07:53 PM
Key Arena has some issues that were never really rectified when they renovated the place in 95. The floor space of the place is just not enough for an NBA franchise to be viable for one.

For any team to go up there, there needs to be a new arena plan in place.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 07:58 PM
Seattle will not get a NBA team without having a new arena. And the Kings won't be going anywhere because Sacramento will build a new arena most likely.

I believe you that Sacramento is getting a new arena most likely since you live there.

If that's the case, there's no one else in the league I see going anywhere.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah I would be too, but I don't know what to say.

Sorry Seattle.

Nothing is going to change. The Thunder are a different team now no longer affiliated with Seattle.
They still have players from the Seattle days. Plus they drafted Durant. So in some ways, unofficially I suppose, they are still affiliated.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 08:02 PM
I believe you that Sacramento is getting a new arena most likely since you live there.

If that's the case, there's no one else in the league I see going anywhere.
Memphis, perhaps.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 08:05 PM
Memphis, perhaps.

I'd think the Hornets have a better chance out of anyone since they're being owned by the NBA.

Both the Hornets and Grizzlies play in fairly new arenas, but haven't been in existance as long as most teams so it might be possible.

The Grizzlies have made a name for themselves now that they've made the playoffs and have a solid young group.

The Hornets have struggled to get much interest and they've been solid with Chris Paul and they don't have their own ownership.

So I don't see the Grizzlies will leave and probably not the Hornets unless it takes a long time to find an owner.

KingGeorge
04-24-2011, 08:05 PM
I believe you that Sacramento is getting a new arena most likely since you live there.

If that's the case, there's no one else in the league I see going anywhere.

Milwaukee and New Orleans too.

ilive4sports
04-24-2011, 08:11 PM
I think NO is the most likely to move. If you are the NBA and an owner from Seattle or Anaheim or somewhere that wants an NBA team and offers to buy the hornets, its something that needs to be seriously considered.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 08:12 PM
Milwaukee and New Orleans too.

Milwaukee very well can leave too.

The Bradley Center is really old and gone to it before, it's terrible and I can't image how much worse Arco Arena or Key Arena can be.

The lighting is terrible, the seats are small and there's no room for your legs, it's outdated. All in all, the opposite of the Fieldhouse.

I don't know what Herb Kohl, their owner thinks about the team, but he's getting up there in age and it might be difficult to find someone who will want to purchase the team knowing the arena is bad and something will need to get done in Milwaukee.

They've been around for a while in Milwaukee so I don't think they're really in danger of going anywhere, but they really need to fix up the Bradley Center because it might put a damper on Herb Kohl looking to sell the team.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 08:17 PM
I'd think the Hornets have a better chance out of anyone since they're being owned by the NBA.

Both the Hornets and Grizzlies play in fairly new arenas, but haven't been in existance as long as most teams so it might be possible.

The Grizzlies have made a name for themselves now that they've made the playoffs and have a solid young group.

The Hornets have struggled to get much interest and they've been solid with Chris Paul and they don't have their own ownership.

So I don't see the Grizzlies will leave and probably not the Hornets unless it takes a long time to find an owner.
I could see the Hornets relocated. Also, it doesn't really matter if the Grizzlies have made a name for themselves. The Sonics had a name for themselves.

The big factor is that you said those are fairly new arenas, and that will probably keep them there for a bit longer.

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 08:18 PM
Milwaukee and New Orleans too.

Milwaukee will move only if Herb Kohl really wants to lose reelection next year. They are also working on securing funding to renovate the Bradley Center as well.

New Orleans is probably the top candidate to become a new Seattle team.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 08:20 PM
So suppose the Hornets relocated to Seattle, would they be entitled to having the name "Seattle SuperSonics"?

Would the Houston Texans be allowed to change their name to the "Houston Oilers" even though the Titans were originally the Oilers?

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 08:24 PM
Well, the old Browns, now the Ravens, when they moved to Baltimore, I think the city at least got the rights to their history and championships, then in 1999 when they got an expansion team, they just named them the Browns.

When it is a shared history, I think they can get a new team either expansion/relocation and name them the Sonics. After it, it says a shared history, why not?

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 08:32 PM
How about the Tacoma Dome?

It's not as old as Key Arena. It opened in 1983.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Dome

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 08:37 PM
How about the Tacoma Dome?

It's not as old as Key Arena. It opened in 1983.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Dome

Tacoma did send Stern a proposal for a team with a 200M arena deal a couple months back.....

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/02/23/1555792/is-nba-in-citys-destiny.html

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 08:39 PM
Damn I did not know KeyArena opened in 1962. When I looked at the Tacoma Dome, I was like well, damn '83 is still old, but not '62 old. :laugh:

It's probably definitely outdated as well. NBA teams demand a lot more. They want Staples Centers for their teams.

Scot Pollard
04-24-2011, 08:45 PM
So if the Hornets don't find ownership in NO, I'm sure they'll find someone in Seattle who I'm sure would put the team in the Tacoma Dome and refer to the team as "Seattle".

It doesn't look like the Tacoma Dome is being occupied by any teams now and it would probably be a decent place for an NBA team and get a good amount of support from those in Seattle.

Its capacity only holds 17,100. Not bad, but that would make it the smallest arena in the NBA.

Lord Helmet
04-24-2011, 08:47 PM
So if the Hornets don't find ownership in NO, I'm sure they'll find someone in Seattle who I'm sure would put the team in the Tacoma Dome and refer to the team as "Seattle".

It doesn't look like the Tacoma Dome is being occupied by any teams now and it would probably be a decent place for an NBA team and get a lot of support like the Sonics got.

Its capacity only holds 17,100. Not bad, but that would make it the smallest arena in the NBA.
They'd eventually want them to renovate it, too, probably.

Sandman21
04-24-2011, 09:05 PM
What kind of amenities does the Tacoma Dome have? Is there a room for restaurants and luxury boxes?

Heisenberg
04-25-2011, 10:29 AM
Stern gave Foster a shout out (http://www.nba.com/pacers/video/2011/04/25/stern110425mpg-1659568/index.html)

MunciePacerBabe
04-25-2011, 10:33 AM
Here is a link that is now on Pacers.com of the dictator...er comish dishing about the Pacers/Bulls series. Yuck!

http://on.nba.com/gaODY8

MunciePacerBabe
04-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Stern gave Foster a shout out (http://www.nba.com/pacers/video/2011/04/25/stern110425mpg-1659568/index.html)

Sorry,Heisenberg, about posting your shout out again. I didn't realize you had already put the video of Stern up! Great minds, however! (;

King Tuts Tomb
04-25-2011, 11:15 AM
The Sonics actually played a season in the Tacoma Dome while Key Arena was being renovated in 94 or 95. There's a zero percent chance an NBA team would permanently move to Tacoma though. It's way too far to ask people to drive to Tacoma from Seattle for 41 home games, especially when Seattle traffic can reach LA-levels of congestion.

I've been to Key Arena a few times and it's in no way an NBA-worthy arena. It has a 1960s futuristic, space needle, type of look, which is cool in a retro way but not for staying competitive when every other team in the league is playing in a modern arena.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/40/fe/5d/the-key-arena.jpg

Bird Fan
04-25-2011, 05:26 PM
Pretty sure no team will ever step foot in Key Arena again. Stern wants arenas to be money making powerhouses with overpriced food, lots of seats, and expensive tickets. Key Arena doesn't have enough room to do this.

Scot Pollard
04-25-2011, 06:10 PM
The Tacoma Dome kind of looks like a high school gymnasium.

That's what it's pretty much used for at this point.

Doesn't look like there's any luxury suites or anything.

Sandman21
04-25-2011, 06:26 PM
The Tacoma Dome kind of looks like a high school gymnasium.

That's what it's pretty much used for at this point.

I've heard it has almost perfect accoustics for concerts, and they do have a few high profile acts coming through there in the next few months.

idioteque
04-25-2011, 06:42 PM
I thought the whole idea was for the size of Key Arena to be doubled so that it could fit the NBA business model. I have no idea how that can be done though.

Sandman21
04-25-2011, 07:46 PM
We had 9,000 people in attendance 3 times this year which is half the arena filled.

In all fairness, one of those games we really shouldn't fault people for not showing up. I mean, there was an icestorm caused by us firing JOB at midseason going on at the same time......:laugh:

Scot Pollard
04-25-2011, 08:10 PM
In all fairness, one of those games we really shouldn't fault people for not showing up. I mean, there was an icestorm caused by us firing JOB at midseason going on at the same time......:laugh:

True.

I don't think I was in attendance just because of all the weather alerts. I actually thought the game was going to be postponed since it was pretty bad and they knew people were staying home.

I was sick a few times during the week and the attendance was pretty low at those games.

We had the official number of 9,000 in attendance for these 3 games.

http://www.nba.com/games/20110301/GSWIND/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

http://www.nba.com/games/20110308/PHIIND/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

http://www.nba.com/games/20110330/DETIND/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

I'm expecting to next average this low in attendance next season. Roughly 14,000 at least, during the week and near sellouts on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoons.

Scot Pollard
04-25-2011, 08:13 PM
I thought the whole idea was for the size of Key Arena to be doubled so that it could fit the NBA business model. I have no idea how that can be done though.

I was pretty surprised when I saw it's capacity of barely over 17,000.