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vnzla81
04-23-2011, 05:21 PM
I am so proud of this team, thank you guys for at least winning one for your fans, now let's go to Chicago and bring another game to indy.

Go Pacers. :dance:

maragin
04-23-2011, 05:23 PM
Get out of our house.

ensergio
04-23-2011, 05:23 PM
I don't care anything about a ugly win. This team need it!

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:24 PM
Hey Bulls fans at Conseco that brought the rooms:

:haha:

And, **** YOU.

Pingu
04-23-2011, 05:24 PM
This feels good.

flox
04-23-2011, 05:24 PM
I'll take a feel bad win after all our feel good losses.

A win is a win!

psychoTT
04-23-2011, 05:24 PM
Are we the worst 4th quarter team in the league?

itscaleb
04-23-2011, 05:25 PM
Solid win! however our 4th quarter execution is unexcusable.. sure the bulls play defense, but having mcroberts dribble the ball up? turning the ball over twice due to shot clock violation? We really need to solve this problem. I've never been a fan of the playing like you don't want to lose mentality when you have a lead at the end of the game.

Overall though good game! Nice to win one at home.. heck anything can happen in game 5.. maybe we'll see them back at CFH!

PacerPassion55
04-23-2011, 05:25 PM
like they say, a win is a win. we live to play ball another day! :D

Basketball Fan
04-23-2011, 05:26 PM
At least if the series ends in Chicago it won't feel as bad as if it ended today

zxc
04-23-2011, 05:26 PM
Sure is nice to get one win at least. Not sure how many more of these fourth quarters I can take though.

KingGeorge
04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
Not the ending I was hoping for, but we finally got the job done!

It feels SO good to get this win. I think we all knew our guys could do it!

Pacers live to see another day!

MaHa3000
04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
a win is a win but damn

Kamiyohk
04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
ai....finally....
so proud

idioteque
04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
I have a good feeling that we'll win Game 5.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
We really need to hit our shots in Game 5. Tyler, Danny, DC, Dun all missed open opportunities.

As bittersweet as it could possibly be, but beautiful nonetheless.

ECKrueger
04-23-2011, 05:28 PM
Never before has ugly felt so good.

ensergio
04-23-2011, 05:28 PM
Granger was outstanding. I don't get the hate, really.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:28 PM
Throw those brooms out.

Bulls fans must feel foolish if they think we're just a joke and will sweep us.

BULLS FANS = LOSERS!

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 05:29 PM
F*** this guy by the way :censored:


http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/kyle-korver1.jpg?w=420

gummy
04-23-2011, 05:30 PM
DG was money today. I agree with some of the criticisms of his shot selection and boneheaded passes but I don't want to hear any of that ish today.

immortality
04-23-2011, 05:30 PM
Basically **** ****, how are the Pacers so bad in the last 3 minutes and what is Vogel thinking with these lineups. The turnovers by McRoberts were the most fustrating part of the game. If we did not have that 14 point lead, we would have not won.

Wow. But yea GO Pacers, everyone deserved a win after the first 3 awesome games!

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:31 PM
I have a good feeling that we'll win Game 5.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

pwee31
04-23-2011, 05:31 PM
Love it! Had a good feeling when I woke up today. Once I heard they were wearing the yellows I knew it was going to be a good day

yoadknux
04-23-2011, 05:32 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :dance::happydanc:boomer:
Gold for the win! Keep your heads up, believe in yourself, and we might be able to win the next one.

LETS GO PACERS

tfarks
04-23-2011, 05:32 PM
Yet again Vogel completely outcoaches the COTY.

Give this man his contract.

TMJ31
04-23-2011, 05:33 PM
The last time I was this emotionally exhausted yet jubilant was the birth of my daughter.

idioteque
04-23-2011, 05:33 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Thank you sir!

Gold
04-23-2011, 05:33 PM
Ugleh win. But oh well. lol. What are the actual disadvantages to going straight in to the offense in the 4th quarter? We never had time to score most of the time. It was ridiculous. We have to do something different next game.

clownskull
04-23-2011, 05:34 PM
Solid win! however our 4th quarter execution is unexcusable.. sure the bulls play defense, but having mcroberts dribble the ball up? turning the ball over twice due to shot clock violation? We really need to solve this problem. I've never been a fan of the playing like you don't want to lose mentality when you have a lead at the end of the game.

Overall though good game! Nice to win one at home.. heck anything can happen in game 5.. maybe we'll see them back at CFH!

yeah, the 4th quarter was a total choke- if they had lost like the nearly did, i would have been seriously disgusted with the team. that would have been easily the biggest choke in pacer playoff history. shot clock violations, mcbob bring the ball up with no one to help him around is inexcusable. careless passes after careless passes.
free throw shooting was awful dunleavy was shockingly bad on the line today.
they totally stopped playing to win in those last 6-7 minutes. it was definitely the worst quarter i have seen them play in the series.

presto123
04-23-2011, 05:34 PM
Why didn't we play defense like that in the regular season? Bulls had 33 points at HALFTIME! Are you kidding me?

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 05:35 PM
Ugleh win. But oh well. lol. What are the actual disadvantages to going straight in to the offense in the 4th quarter? We never had time to score most of the time. It was ridiculous. We have to do something different next game.

Yeah, it is one thing to slow it down and not just take the first acceptable shot. It is another to completely stop for 10 seconds.

ensergio
04-23-2011, 05:35 PM
Vogel's mistakes in the 4th (nothing irremediable):

- George and Foster in the bench in crucial times.

- Don't make a f$%$%$$ play from timeout.

Pacerized
04-23-2011, 05:36 PM
It's great to see a playoff game and win by the Pacers.
Disgusting how many Bulls fans were at the game though, I hope they all have a crappy drive home. This team has heart and a future. We need to be even more physical in game 5, the Bulls do not respond well to it. Go Pacers.

MaHa3000
04-23-2011, 05:36 PM
This is a good first playoff series for these guys. We are going to win a lot of games in the years to come.

LG33
04-23-2011, 05:37 PM
I'm too upset to enjoy this win, and that upsets me.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Why didn't we play defense like that in the regular season? Bulls had 33 points at HALFTIME! Are you kidding me?

Is better late than never ;)

InYaFace
04-23-2011, 05:37 PM
YEEEEEHA!
Germany is calling :D...

Me and my friend enjoyed our first Pacers Playoff victory!!!!!!!!!!

What a game...damn the end was just crazy...my heart is still beating like a bomb!

GO PACERS...we can beat them twice!
And Happy Birthday ;)...

gummy
04-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Coach V asked about the crowd - "I only heard Pacers fans."

Nice response.

immortality
04-23-2011, 05:38 PM
Yet again Vogel completely outcoaches the COTY.

Give this man his contract.

Did you not watch the last 3 minutes of the game ? Not to be a debbie downer, but bulls were one more shot clock violation away from winning the game. If Vogel really said to simply run out the clock that is not good imo. Need to play to win, not to play to avoid losing.

Sandman21
04-23-2011, 05:38 PM
I AINT HEARD NO FAT LADY!

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 05:38 PM
I'm not hating on Danny. For Christ's sake, he led the team in assists. I've been one of his biggest supporters throughout the series. I just hope he can drop a couple of those open threes on kick outs.

plus, he made his free throws when we shot 60% from the line.

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Where can we see the press conference??

docpaul
04-23-2011, 05:40 PM
I'm too upset to enjoy this win, and that upsets me.

Sounds like it's time to get some perspective, then.

First playoff win in 5 years.

Our team is all new, and most players on the team have *0* playoff experience.

This is how a team is built.

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

gummy
04-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Look, I don't like how close it got at the end but I that's crunch time execution from a very young team. The important thing is they got it right this time. It's growth. Those of you who are upset, I get it, but I hope you can find a way to enjoy the win. W's should be enjoyed, beautiful, ugly or anything in between - especially W's in the playoffs. At the time JOB was fired who here thought we'd be in the playoffs, hanging tough with the #1 seed and able to grind out a close game...?

We all want a championship contender, but you don't usually get from point A to point Z without moving through the points in between. Savor the growth of this team!

:buddies:

redsox1989
04-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Not in the 4th quarter.Nevertheless,the man deserves the job.

crunk-juice
04-23-2011, 05:40 PM
relieved to get a win but i hope there isnt too much celebrating going on in the locker room..

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:41 PM
I'm very proud of these guys.

Even more proud we were able to pull out a win.

I'm proud they were able to pull out a win probably feeling a little weird that their home was being taken over.

Now let's go into the Bulls real home and show them we're not finished.

GO PACERS!

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 05:41 PM
I'm too upset to enjoy this win, and that upsets me.

I too am upset at my own upsetness within my happiness. BRAHHMM (http://inception.davepedu.com/)!!!

tfarks
04-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Did you not watch the last 3 minutes of the game ? Not to be a debbie downer, but bulls were one more shot clock violation away from winning the game. If Vogel really said to simply run out the clock that is not good imo. Need to play to win, not to play to avoid losing.

Pacers suck in the 4th because of the players. The coach can't go out there and execute as well.

Sandman21
04-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Where can we see the press conference??

NBATV is showing them. Right now they are showing Thibodeau though.

tfarks
04-23-2011, 05:43 PM
Not to mention the COTY has no offensive gameplanning what so ever. You see what happens when he can't just give Rose the ball and be done with it. Vogel has stepped it up on both sides of the ball, and made adjustment after adjustment. Truly impressive.

Shade
04-23-2011, 05:44 PM
If we were able to close games out, we'd have been going for the sweep today instead of Chicago.

Still, good to get the win. Live and learn.

grace
04-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Changing the subject :kravitz: brought Vogel's post game press conference to a screeching hault by asking about the crowd. To Vogel's credit he said "I only heard Pacers fans. I only saw blue and yellow."

Kegboy says to warn you that :kravitz: will now write a :censored: article about the crowd.

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:45 PM
ROY HIBBERT AT THE PODIUM!!!

PR07
04-23-2011, 05:46 PM
Someone tell Collison to take better care of the basketball late.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:47 PM
Roy on NBATV.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 05:48 PM
Post game here (http://www.nba.com/live1/)

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 05:48 PM
Pacers suck in the 4th because of the players. The coach can't go out there and execute as well.

The coach didn't play the best personnel for the situation. AJ has shown over the course of this series that in crunch time he is better than Collison, George was playing lights out on both ends, and he needed to put the strongest defensive team in for the last 2 or 3 Bulls possessions not just the last one. Oddly enough our best defensive team has about as much offense as the guys who were playing. The difference is you don't know exactly who is going to take the shot.

redsox1989
04-23-2011, 05:48 PM
Pacers suck in the 4th because of the players. The coach can't go out there and execute as well.

But how can you just LET McRob moves the ball up front without assistance?You just cannot LET it happen in the playoffs.Then a clear path foul and a three point play from Deng.Inexcusable.Hope Vogel and the players learn something from it.The man deserves the job,nevertheless.

dal9
04-23-2011, 05:50 PM
AJ has shown over the course of this series that in crunch time he is better than Collison,

I know this is a MB and everyone sees things differently, and that is the point, but this statement just baffles me...

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:51 PM
I love how he referred to the home fans as the "true fans".

rexnom
04-23-2011, 05:51 PM
The coach didn't play the best personnel for the situation. AJ has shown over the course of this series that in crunch time he is better than Collison, George was playing lights out on both ends, and he needed to put the strongest defensive team in for the last 2 or 3 Bulls possessions not just the last one. Oddly enough our best defensive team has about as much offense as the guys who were playing. The difference is you don't know exactly who is going to take the shot.
I contend that PG couldn't have played better defense than DJ and that AJ had shown himself more turnover prone than Darren. You could make an argument for TJ, maybe.

daschysta
04-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Someone tell Collison to take better care of the basketball late.

Collison had one turnover all night.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 05:52 PM
:kravitz: keeps asking the same stupid question.

trs72
04-23-2011, 05:53 PM
I'm very proud of these guys.

Even more proud we were able to pull out a win.

I'm proud they were able to pull out a win probably feeling a little weird that their home was being taken over.

Now let's go into the Bulls real home and show them we're not finished.

GO PACERS!

My first post as I am new to this site. I am glad we go the win but was upset with 2 things. 1) how we can't seem to close out games, honestly we could be up 3 to 1 instead of down 3 to1. 2) that people dont come out to support this team and that is sad. It made me sick to see all that red especially since I hate the Bulls with a passion. I wish I still lived close enough to make the drive as I would have been there to support my team. As much as I hate anything Chicago I will say that n matter what they support their team. Its sad were a basketball state but have such poor fan support for a very goo young team.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Well, I guess we know what Krapitz's next column will be about.

*** hole.

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Granger did not get the ball enough down the stretch. How clear is it now that he is by far our best player?

Also George's absence for long stretches tonight baffled me. I thought he was playing well.

Collison had a terrible game, but probably made the play of the game by stuffing Rose's **** back in his face.

gummy
04-23-2011, 05:54 PM
The coach didn't play the best personnel for the situation. AJ has shown over the course of this series that in crunch time he is better than Collison, George was playing lights out on both ends, and he needed to put the strongest defensive team in for the last 2 or 3 Bulls possessions not just the last one.

I would have liked to see Paul in during the 4th to see if he learned from his previous not so good 4th quarters in this series.

But AJ better than Collison in crunch time? Collison has raised the level of his game in this series. AJ, quite frankly - I've been an AJ supporter in the past but I am always a little bit afraid when AJ is handling the ball these days. He hit some big shots today, but he has been pounding the ball too much and shooting too much.

Lord Helmet
04-23-2011, 05:55 PM
"Chicago fans kind of pissed me off." - Granger

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:55 PM
Danny commented on the crowd. :laugh:

It pissed him off and wanted to shut them up.

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:55 PM
"Yeah I noticed them, and quite frankly it pissed me off"- Danny on Bulls fans

GO DANNY!

Lord Helmet
04-23-2011, 05:55 PM
Kravitz sucks.

gummy
04-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Danny admits there were a lot of Bulls fans in Conseco tonight -

"...quite frankly, it pissed me off."

I'm glad. Seems Danny always plays a bit better when he is mad.

Constellations
04-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Granger lol! "Yeah, it honestly pissed me off."

Trophy
04-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Danny is a great speaker and is smart with what he says.

Good to have that from your best player.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 05:57 PM
Danny admits there were a lot of Bulls fans in Conseco tonight -

"To be honest, it pissed me off."

Great response. It pissed me off too.

I-65 is going to have a lot of sad *** clowns driving on it tonight.

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 05:57 PM
We knew Saturday would be worse. It's the weekend. We must regroup.

Why not us.

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 05:58 PM
I've said it a couple of times, but I'm going to repeat it here:

In three-five years, Danny is going to be known as more of a Paul Pierce than a Gerald Wallace/Caron Butler/Abdur-Raheem guy. Which is really great.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 05:59 PM
Collison had one turnover all night.

I'd credit the McBob bringing up the ball turnover to DC.

Dr. Hibbert
04-23-2011, 05:59 PM
Great win. I'm deathly concerned by fourth quarter Collison though. His game awareness shrinks to zero with less than 5 minutes left. Think he'll be a good PG going forward, but yikes...he's bad in the closing minutes.

pacer4ever
04-23-2011, 06:00 PM
I was in shock the last few mintues i lost 5 yrs of my life during the end stretch. Good win but we cant turn the ball over in winning time

Trophy
04-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Let's hopefully never see that many Bulls fans at Conseco Fieldhouse next season or ever.

Hopefully not this upcoming Thursday.

That was disgusting to see that from a team's home arena, let alone it being at CFH.

Last Thursday was a great crowd. Too bad we didn't win that one too.

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 06:01 PM
I can tell you one thing, if by some act of God the Pacers can get back here for game 6, I would expect a rockin' Pacer crowd for that one.

grace
04-23-2011, 06:01 PM
Dear :kravitz:

The Pacers just won their first playoff game in five years. Why the hell do you keep asking about the ratio of fans in the stands? Everyone else is asking questions about the game and you're doing the census.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:02 PM
They should probably ask a question about Derrick's ankle.

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 06:03 PM
Also, let's talk about Rose.

21/65 from the field since game 1. How much longer will we have to deal with the Jordan comparisons before people wake up and realize that Rose is good, but he's not THAT good.

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:03 PM
I'd credit the McBob bringing up the ball turnover to DC.

Nah, McBob took his eye off the ball when he saw Rose coming to double-team. That was a stupid thing to do and he is the one that did it. Had he kept his composure it should have been easy for him to pass it out over the top of that double.

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 06:03 PM
Dear :kravitz:

The Pacers just won their first playoff game in five years. Why the hell do you keep asking about the ratio of fans in the stands? Everyone else is asking questions about the game and you're doing the census.

Because Kravitz used up all his positivity when he wrote the Pacers were playing hard or something like that.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:03 PM
Was it just me or did anyone want to kick the **** out of those slobs who pigged up our house.

**** you!

I said quickly in the game chat, but did anyone else notice Boomer was vandalized? His tail was in a knot!

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:04 PM
Dear :kravitz:

The Pacers just won their first playoff game in five years. Why the hell do you keep asking about the ratio of fans in the stands? Everyone else is asking questions about the game and you're doing the census.

He has clearly decided what the angle for his article will be, he's just trying to get a lot of quotes to fill it out so he has to write less. ;)

Dr. Hibbert
04-23-2011, 06:04 PM
Did anyone get an official tally of how many times Carlos Boozer screamed "AAAAYYYY!!!" in this game?

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:05 PM
Great response. It pissed me off too.

I-65 is going to have a lot of sad *** clowns driving on it tonight.

I purposely blew the horn at one of them on my way home.

They had an Illinois license plate too as did many cars parked.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:05 PM
Nah, McBob took his eye off the ball when he saw Rose coming to double-team. That was a stupid thing to do and he is the one that did it. Had he kept his composure it should have been easy for him to pass it out over the top of that double.

Not his job. DC needs to come back to the back court and take the ball from him. I can't fault McBob for that play.

TheDon
04-23-2011, 06:06 PM
Was it just me or did anyone want to kick the **** out of those slobs who pigged up our house.

**** you!

I said quickly in the game chat, but did anyone else notice Boomer was vandalized? His tail was in a knot!

maybe i'm mistaken but I thought that was always the case?

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 06:06 PM
Aww..Joakim Noah has his hair in a nice little perm.

KingGeorge
04-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Did anyone get an official tally of how many times Carlos Boozer screamed "AAAAYYYY!!!" in this game?

I have heard him scream "Give me that ****" at least 5 times during the series.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Rose limps off into the night.

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Not his job. DC needs to come back to the back court and take the ball from him. I can't fault McBob for that play.

Yes, DC needs to come back and get the ball from him but it is McBob's fault that he let the mere approach of Derek Rose rattle him. You don't fault him, but I do fault him and DC on that play.

But it's fine, we won and I think we maybe even learned a little something. Bring on game 5!

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:08 PM
I wouldn't **** on Noah too much. He's the reason it wasn't a blow out.

cdash
04-23-2011, 06:08 PM
Don't worry guys, I'll be at the United Center on Tuesday invading their house. We got one!!!!!

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:09 PM
Aww..Joakim Noah has his hair in a nice little perm.

Troy Polamalu's hair >>>>>>>>>> Joakim Noah's hair.

They look the same, but Polamalu actually keeps himself tighty.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:10 PM
You should eat Taco Bell beforehand and just fart the entire game.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Noah needs a clean cut.

DemonHunter1105
04-23-2011, 06:10 PM
In three-five years, Danny is going to be known as more of a Paul Pierce than a Gerald Wallace/Caron Butler/Abdur-Raheem guy. Which is really great.

I'm ok with that talent wise. If he turns into a weak piece of whining crap that Pierce has become, I will be mad.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Why is a homeless guy being interviewed in the press room?

neosmndrew
04-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Man, the Bulls fans are really making sure we know that the Pacers can't win without refs help on the Pacers' FB page... they are shameful.

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:11 PM
Noah always gives us more credit than any of the other Bulls. I don't fault the guy for being eccentric and I don't care about his hair. I hate all the Bulls right now, but I hate Carlos Boozer way more than Noah. Noah is a gamer, I wouldn't mind having him on our team at all. Boozer is a pretend hard punk, I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:11 PM
He has clearly decided what the angle for his article will be, he's just trying to get a lot of quotes to fill it out so he has to write less. ;)

He thinks our attendance will be a lot higher next season.

Sandman21
04-23-2011, 06:11 PM
I look Noah and the first thing that comes to mind is Aerosmith and Dude looks like a lady...... with a moustache.

Thoreau87
04-23-2011, 06:12 PM
Noah: "We have high character."

People with high character don't say they have high character.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:12 PM
Man, the Bulls fans are really making sure we know that the Pacers can't win without refs help on the Pacers' FB page... they are shameful.

Games 1-2 never happened according to them. Bulls fans have an even shorter memory than I thought.

grace
04-23-2011, 06:13 PM
Aww..Joakim Noah has his hair in a nice little perm.

He looks like the lost member of DeBarge. (For all the youngsters who have no idea who I'm talking about...Google.)

Noah will never be as cute as he was on draft night.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:13 PM
Man, the Bulls fans are really making sure we know that the Pacers can't win without refs help on the Pacers' FB page... they are shameful.

They have no lives.

I just wish our attendance could be sellouts like they do but WITH OUR OWN FANS!

They are so lame and the worst fans ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

wseward
04-23-2011, 06:15 PM
one of my favorite parts of the night was when Boozer yelled "give me that ****" and when he turned around Foster stole it from him... it was after one of our missed free throws.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:15 PM
The CorruptCity sportswriters are taking solace in the fact that the Bulls play in a big market and their convict fans can make a short drive down the road.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:15 PM
Hey Noah!!

Your Bulls fans love = FAKE!

If it wasn't for your little buddy Derrick, your pig fans wouldn't be following your asses anywhere.

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:16 PM
one of my favorite parts of the night was when Boozer yelled "give me that ****" and when he turned around Foster stole it from him... it was after one of our missed free throws.

Yes, indeed, it was beautiful. Once Foster ripped they ball out his hands he followed it up with his "Heeeey!" Priceless.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:16 PM
Noah: "We have high character."

People with high character don't say they have high character.

He's not that bright.

Look how stupid he looks and the way he speaks makes it worse.

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:17 PM
1. Our team can not shoot. We missed a ton of open, easy shots today, like we have all series. And that especially includes the foul line.
2. Grainger made a lot of shots with people bumping him. He is by far our best player.
3. Foster was huge in the second half. His offensive rebounding made an incredible difference in the game.
4. Hibbert played with determination and found out he can score! I am happy for him.
5. We now see what it takes to win; we need to be up by 15 with 5 minutes left. Because we are going to struggle down the stretch; silly plays from almost everyone, and really no offense at all.
6. Almost incredibly (and the media do not see it this way) we are actually outplaying this team, and it is our own limitations that make this a 3-1 series.
7. Noah needs a haircut. He looks like a slob.

Very good to have the win. But incredibly scary. The issue will be that the Bulls will go home very confident while the Pacers will not take any confidence from the win.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 06:17 PM
Throw those brooms out.

Bulls fans must feel foolish if they think we're just a joke and will sweep us.

BULLS FANS = LOSERS!

talked to one of the conseco staff. they had to lock the fire doors on the stairways [you can get out, but not back in], just because of the bulls fans trying to sneak in where they didn't have tickets for. :laugh:

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:18 PM
They have no lives.

I just wish our attendance could be sellouts like they do but WITH OUR OWN FANS!

They are so lame and the worst fans ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

There were hardly any Bulls fans in attendance at MSA during the 1998 ECF.

If the Pacers were a better team then there would be more of their fans in attendance.

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 06:18 PM
I would have liked to see Paul in during the 4th to see if he learned from his previous not so good 4th quarters in this series.

But AJ better than Collison in crunch time? Collison has raised the level of his game in this series. AJ, quite frankly - I've been an AJ supporter in the past but I am always a little bit afraid when AJ is handling the ball these days. He hit some big shots today, but he has been pounding the ball too much and shooting too much.

Collison has been playing better during the game, but not at the end of games. Mean while AJ has been his best at the end of games, and has hit clutch shot after clutch shot. People complain we have no one on this team is clutch, but no one seems to be paying attention to how AJ has played during clutch moments. If he isn't hitting a clutch shot he is getting fouled on a 3pt shot and making all 3 FT's. We have someone clutch on this team we just need to use him at the right times. I understand it is frustrating when he doesn't pass the ball, but when the clock is running down he has out performed everyone on this team by a mile.

kester99
04-23-2011, 06:18 PM
All those short-haired guys look like doofuses.

gummy
04-23-2011, 06:19 PM
Very good to have the win. But incredibly scary. The issue will be that the Bulls will go home very confident while the Pacers will not take any confidence from the win.

I think that last part is wrong. The Pacers have been playing with way more confidence than anyone expected this whole series. I think they do get a confidence bump out of finally holding the Bulls off down the stretch.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:19 PM
Also can't say it enough: worst reffed game of the playoffs so far. Just incredible ineptitude on several calls. Their rescinding of Dun's free throw was beyond anything I've seen in a long time.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:20 PM
There were hardly any Bulls fans in attendance at MSA during the 1998 ECF.

If the Pacers were a better team then there would be more of their fans in attendance.

Give it next year my friend.

I think we will shoot up BIG in the attendance standings and our playoff crowd will sellout with Pacers fans only.

Hoosiers can't resist good basketball and their Pacers are back in the playoffs and I'm looking forward to a solid fanbase like back when the Fieldhouse first opened and at MSA.

We won today, but to be honest with you I didn't have fun like I did Thursday.

Thursday was great. Yes still many slobs, but there were MANY more Pacers fans who roared the Fieldhouse.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 06:20 PM
Collison has been playing better during the game, but not at the end of games. Mean while AJ has been his best at the end of games, and has hit clutch shot after clutch shot. People complain we have no one on this team is clutch, but no one seems to be paying attention to how AJ has played during clutch moments. If he isn't hitting a clutch shot he is getting fouled on a 3pt shot and making all 3 FT's. We have someone clutch on this team we just need to use him at the right times. I understand it is frustrating when he doesn't pass the ball, but when the clock is running down he has out performed everyone on this team by a mile.

AJ has to he shooting well to be effective. but he is the best shooter by far of the PG's.

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 06:21 PM
I think that last part is wrong. The Pacers have been playing with way more confidence than anyone expected this whole series. I think they do get a confidence bump out of finally holding the Bulls off down the stretch.

Agreed. We fans are still reeling from the terrible 4th quarter, but the players themselves have finally experienced a win. They are feeling very good right now and are taking the poor execution in the 4th as a lesson into the future.

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:22 PM
He's not that bright.

Look how stupid he looks and the way he speaks makes it worse.Well, he intentionally dresses and styles his person to look like a wayward slob. It is very strange and one must wonder about his self-image.

He comes from extreme privilege and now makes lots of money himself. So my first guess would be that he downplays his success to an extreme degree and acts like he does not care, but then like an under-dog, wants to perform from a subservient position. I have never actually met anyone that so intentionally denigrates their appearance.

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 06:22 PM
The CorruptCity sportswriters are taking solace in the fact that the Bulls play in a big market and their convict fans can make a short drive down the road.

One thing I have found out from this series are that Bulls fans are some of the worst fans in all of sports. Philly fans may be asses, but they aren't stupid. Patriot fans may be arrogant, but they are just annoying. Bulls fans though are just plain dumb, they have absolutely no sense of how to play the game or what is or is not a foul.

Hoop
04-23-2011, 06:22 PM
If all the crap the Bulls fans were saying in the hall wasn't enough to p*ss me off.

I go to get food and the lady behind the counter is talking to bulls fans and says go bulls, I'm looking at her like I'm burning a hole through her head.

She says "oh you're a Pacer fan" in a negative sounding way, I say "oh you're an @sshole" , it made me feel better. :D

I look next to me an Uncle Buck is standing there.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:23 PM
1. Our team can not shoot. We missed a ton of open, easy shots today, like we have all series. And that especially includes the foul line.
2. Grainger made a lot of shots with people bumping him. He is by far our best player.
3. Foster was huge in the second half. His offensive rebounding made an incredible difference in the game.
4. Hibbert played with determination and found out he can score! I am happy for him.
5. We now see what it takes to win; we need to be up by 15 with 5 minutes left. Because we are going to struggle down the stretch; silly plays from almost everyone, and really no offense at all.
6. Almost incredibly (and the media do not see it this way) we are actually outplaying this team, and it is our own limitations that make this a 3-1 series.
7. Noah needs a haircut. He looks like a slob.

Very good to have the win. But incredibly scary. The issue will be that the Bulls will go home very confident while the Pacers will not take any confidence from the win.

Why would the Bulls have confidence? The Pacers finally sealed the deal and led the entire game. They should have the confidence, not Chicago.

mb221
04-23-2011, 06:23 PM
I have heard him scream "Give me that ****" at least 5 times during the series.

Five times a game and that might be lowballing. Watching the NBA cares commercial with Boozer proclaiming himself proud to be a role model makes me chuckle while watching and listening to him on the court.

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:24 PM
...Bulls fans though are just plain dumb, they have absolutely no sense of how to play the game or what is or is not a foul.Thought you were going to say, "Rude," or "insulting."

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Thought you were going to say, "Rude," or "insulting."

They are that to, but I was trying to imply that they were also asses like Philly fans and arrogant like Patriot fans. Apparently I did a poor job.

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Why would the Bulls have confidence? The Pacers finally sealed the deal and led the entire game. They should have the confidence, not Chicago.Hope you are right. We will see. Except for the last 5 minutes, there are a lot of positives for the Pacers to take from the game.

In all honesty, if the Pacers can play a full game, there is no evidence in this series that the Bulls can stay with them. At least that is what I see...

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:27 PM
They are that to, but I was trying to imply that they were also asses like Philly fans and arrogant like Patriot fans. Apparently I did a poor job.LOL. They are all those things.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Also can't say it enough: worst reffed game of the playoffs so far. Just incredible ineptitude on several calls. Their rescinding of Dun's free throw was beyond anything I've seen in a long time.

scott foster was the official. he did blow his whistle before mike took his free throw. once he did that, they have to not count the free throw.

it is interesting, for the most part, i thought the game was officiated ok. i did think scott foster, the left handed official, did over officiate too much. the other guys did a better job of just watching the game.

in defense of the officiating crew, they did tighten up some trying to get control of the game a couple of time. but then loosened up as the game went on. made the calls uneven. and probably somewhat hard to play at times.

it looked also like the league office wanted to clean up some of the blatent shoving. thought a lot of that got called early.

BQQ
04-23-2011, 06:29 PM
I love PACERS!! Happy Easter!! lalallalalalalalal!!:) future for this team is so so bright:)

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Those ****heads at the game today will NEVER take away our Indiana basketball pride and love for the Indiana Pacers.

I noticed how different Indiana sports crowds are compared to other cities.

That crowd today really was NEVER something that will be seen in an Indiana sports venue.

I'm proud of what we have. I'm proud to call myself a Hoosier and I think Pacers fans not just in Indiana should be proud. We resemble true sports.

Can't wait for next season!!!!! 16,000+ in attendance next season baby!

Sellouts for the playoffs with Pacers fans!!

We are one of the most likable teams in this league. Notice how players like Eric Gordon love to come back and even root on the hometown Pacers, who they grew up watching. We are one of the most strongest teams in this league.

McKeyFan
04-23-2011, 06:31 PM
I know this is a MB and everyone sees things differently, and that is the point, but this statement just baffles me...
I agree with him.

When it's really pressure, at the very end, AJ can be really clutch and Collison can really choke.

Neither are the answer.

kester99
04-23-2011, 06:31 PM
So what channel carries the game Tuesday?

Cherokee
04-23-2011, 06:32 PM
Noah always gives us more credit than any of the other Bulls. I don't fault the guy for being eccentric and I don't care about his hair. I hate all the Bulls right now, but I hate Carlos Boozer way more than Noah. Noah is a gamer, I wouldn't mind having him on our team at all. Boozer is a pretend hard punk, I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole.

I think more highly of Noah after watching this series than I have ever before. But more than that, I think a lot more of the Pacers because they have played their butts off, and I appreciate that. I hate that they continue blowing big leads in the second half, but they've done that all season. My hope is that whomever is coaching them next year has a much better idea how to prevent that from happening.

DemonHunter1105
04-23-2011, 06:32 PM
So what channel carries the game Tuesday?

TNT I think.

McKeyFan
04-23-2011, 06:35 PM
I contend that PG couldn't have played better defense than DJ and that AJ had shown himself more turnover prone than Darren. You could make an argument for TJ, maybe.
I like George out there too, but DJ's denying Rose the ball on the last play was fantastic. A key to the game.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 06:36 PM
I think more highly of Noah after watching this series than I have ever before. . .

i really like noah. wish he was a pacer. i alwasy thought of him as jeff foster v2.0. if he's on your team, you like him. if not, you hate him. ;)

Whiskeyjim
04-23-2011, 06:38 PM
I agree with him.

When it's really pressure, at the very end, AJ can be really clutch and Collison can really choke.

Neither are the answer.The two of them went 5-17 from the field with 2 assists. That is fairly standard for them. If that is average for the league, even an above average PG, no superstar needed, would make an incredible difference on this team.

Interestingly, I never really liked their styles of play in college either.

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 06:38 PM
I like George out there too, but DJ's denying Rose the ball on the last play was fantastic. A key to the game.

Yeah, him and Rush were the key to the last play. We know Deng is unlikely to get away from Granger, but Korver and Rose can get open. I have never seen two players do a better job denying the ball.

ilive4sports
04-23-2011, 06:39 PM
Well we won and in the end thats what matters. Almost collapsed, almost pissed me off, almost lost, but they didn't. We've got work to do, but you have to be happy with what this team is showing.

And can we keep this about the game? Reading all this posts about bulls fans, trashing them and all really doesn't make you seem much better than them.

neosmndrew
04-23-2011, 06:39 PM
I just love Vogel's "why not us" attitude. That is the only way we could come back from 3-0. Not that I think we will, but its good that someone believes.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 06:41 PM
ReggieMillerTNT Reggie Miller
I applaud all my FAITHFUL Hoosiers that came out to support the Pacers, for the other Turncoats in Red, shame on ya....

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 06:41 PM
Well we won and in the end thats what matters. Almost collapsed, almost pissed me off, almost lost, but they didn't. We've got work to do, but you have to be happy with what this team is showing.

And can we keep this about the game? Reading all this posts about bulls fans, trashing them and all really doesn't make you seem much better than them.

Correctly pointing out the boorish, uncouth, and uncivilized behavior of Bulls fans does not bring us to their level.

dal9
04-23-2011, 06:43 PM
AJ has to he shooting well to be effective. but he is the best shooter by far of the PG's.

...this is another one...didn't somebody point out a few days ago that AJ Price was literally the worst shooter in the league?

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=63595

...not to **** on Price, he was OK today, but let's be realistic here...

dal9
04-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Why is a homeless guy being interviewed in the press room?

just b/c you're a Boozer doesn't mean you're homeless necessarily...

:rimshot:

immortality
04-23-2011, 06:46 PM
...this is another one...didn't somebody point out a few days ago that AJ Price was literally the worst shooter in the league?

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=63595

...not to **** on Price, he was OK today, but let's be realistic here...

He had a pretty big 3 to stop the bulls comeback in the 4th quarter.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 06:49 PM
...this is another one...didn't somebody point out a few days ago that AJ Price was literally the worst shooter in the league?

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=63595

...not to **** on Price, he was OK today, but let's be realistic here...

there is no doubt that AJ has sucked it up shooting the ball this year. but this year's bad shooting has been an anomaly for him. he was a good shooter last year and at uconn.

wish i knew what the deal was. early in the year, i thought it might have been his kneecap still bothering him. :whoknows:

but he is a much better shooter than he's shown this year. and a better shooter than any of the other PG's. and some of the wings. :cough:dahntay:cough: :laugh:

Gold
04-23-2011, 06:52 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieMillerTNT/status/61921601851105280

From Reggies twitter. :laugh:

dal9
04-23-2011, 07:02 PM
there is no doubt that AJ has sucked it up shooting the ball this year. but this year's bad shooting has been an anomaly for him. he was a good shooter last year and at uconn.

wish i knew what the deal was. early in the year, i thought it might have been his kneecap still bothering him. :whoknows:

but he is a much better shooter than he's shown this year. and a better shooter than any of the other PG's. and some of the wings. :cough:dahntay:cough: :laugh:

i don't mean to make this a pissing contest, but Darren outshot AJ last year too...and every year in College. AJ's best shooting year at UConn was worse than 3 out of 4 Darren's years at UCLA...

shags
04-23-2011, 07:03 PM
TNT I think.

If the Knicks beat the Celtics tomorrow, it'll probably be on NBA TV. And probably another 9:30 start.

If the Celtics sweep, then it'll be TNT at 8:00.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 07:05 PM
You know what would be funny if Michael Grady was like "I CAN'T HEAR YOU PACERS FANS!!!!!!!!.....I CAN'T HEAR YOU BULLS FANS!!!!!!"

Sure as hell seemed like this was a Super Bowl or something with the fans split 50/50.

ilive4sports
04-23-2011, 07:05 PM
I'm pretty sure they said it will be on TNT already.

ensergio
04-23-2011, 07:08 PM
I'm in love with George's rebounding.

DemonHunter1105
04-23-2011, 07:09 PM
If the Knicks beat the Celtics tomorrow, it'll probably be on NBA TV. And probably another 9:30 start.

If the Celtics sweep, then it'll be TNT at 8:00.

Yeah, they said it was going to be on TNT if it was necessary during the game I thought.

Plus aren't the ratings for our series just as good or even better than Knicks-Celtics? They would be dumb if that is true and we aren't on TNT.

Bird Fan
04-23-2011, 07:12 PM
I have heard him scream "Give me that ****" at least 5 times during the series.

I've heard "Grab that ****" and "Gimme that ****" at least 15 times. He started yelling Pau Gasol style today though.

Can you imagine him and Pau playing against each other? "AAAHHHH" "GIMME THAT ****" "AHHHHH" "GRAB THAT ****"

Mr_Smith
04-23-2011, 07:18 PM
Good win avoiding the sweep. Shame on the people of indianapolis...too much red in the stands, and lastly Carlos Boozer is fake tough.

presto123
04-23-2011, 07:22 PM
Did i actually see Korver shoot an airball?

McKeyFan
04-23-2011, 07:22 PM
i don't mean to make this a pissing contest, but Darren outshot AJ last year too...and every year in College. AJ's best shooting year at UConn was worse than 3 out of 4 Darren's years at UCLA...
Drive for show. Putt for dough.

In other words, I'm more interested in what they do down the stretch than their overall stats.

Anthem
04-23-2011, 07:29 PM
I'm in love with George's rebounding.
Loved that we matched them in rebounding this game... And Danny's double-double was a big part of that.

IndyHoya
04-23-2011, 07:36 PM
I want to give Roy some love today. I liked his aggressiveness and his defense was stellar. When we get 16 or so from Roy, we tend to win. More of the same, big fella!

And if only Tyler pulls out of his funk, I think we have a pretty good shot, next game.

Can't wait to see it!

ilive4sports
04-23-2011, 07:41 PM
I want to give Roy some love today. I liked his aggressiveness and his defense was stellar. When we get 16 or so from Roy, we tend to win. More of the same, big fella!

And if only Tyler pulls out of his funk, I think we have a pretty good shot, next game.

Can't wait to see it!

Roy started off weak, but he hit some huge buckets for us in the second half. Hopefully that keeps his confidence up

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 07:46 PM
i don't mean to make this a pissing contest, but Darren outshot AJ last year too...and every year in College. AJ's best shooting year at UConn was worse than 3 out of 4 Darren's years at UCLA...

no offense taken, :)

still think AJ is a better 'shooter' than darren. :laugh:

Trader Joe
04-23-2011, 08:08 PM
The crucial quarter to game 5 will be the 1st. The Bulls will come out looking to throw a haymaker. We have to dodge it.

PacerPassion55
04-23-2011, 08:10 PM
i would maybe like boozer if he would stop shouting every time he got fouled.

naw.

croz24
04-23-2011, 08:15 PM
just got back and of course i have a negative comment... what a disgusting display of fan support in our own god damn arena. an absolute embarrassment for this city. as for the basketball, we are fortunate to have held on again. until we find a go-to guy we'll struggle to ever make it out of the first round. glad we finally held on to one.

IndyHoya
04-23-2011, 08:21 PM
just got back and of course i have a negative comment... what a disgusting display of fan support in our own *** damn arena. an absolute embarrassment for this city. as for the basketball, we are fortunate to have held on again. until we find a go-to guy we'll struggle to ever make it out of the first round. glad we finally held on to one.

I thought our fans that did come were wonderful, though. Very, very loud and vocal. Maybe the word will get out to Carmel that right here in town, at Conseco, there's something good happening, something worth watching. Maybe it'll cause 'em to buy Junior a Pacers jersey instead of a Paul Pierce or a Dwight Howard. One can hope.

Funny though. Something inside of me tells me I wouldn't like sitting next to those kind of fans when they do come back. And they will. Better than sitting next to a Bulls fan, I guess. But only marginally.

croz24
04-23-2011, 08:26 PM
I thought our fans that did come were wonderful, though. Very, very loud and vocal. Maybe the word will get out to Carmel that right here in town, at Conseco, there's something good happening, something worth watching. Maybe it'll cause 'em to buy Junior a Pacers jersey instead of a Paul Pierce or a Dwight Howard. One can hope.

Funny though. Something inside of me tells me I wouldn't like sitting next to those kind of fans when they do come back. And they will. Better than sitting next to a Bulls fan, I guess. But only marginally.

yea the pacers fans that were there, were loud and should be commended on their efforts. the issue i think most have, and me especially, is that nearly half of conseco was bulls fans.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 08:28 PM
just got back and of course i have a negative comment... what a disgusting display of fan support in our own *** damn arena. an absolute embarrassment for this city. as for the basketball, we are fortunate to have held on again. until we find a go-to guy we'll struggle to ever make it out of the first round. glad we finally held on to one.

If the Pacers had won Game 3 this would not have happened.

It is a tall order to ask fans of a 37-45 team that has not made the postseason in four years to come out in droves.

And geography matters. If the Pacers had been playing the Heat or Celtics the crowd would have been overwhelmingly pro Pacers.

LA_Confidential
04-23-2011, 08:30 PM
Ok so we wear the Yellow jerseys, our best jersey I might add, we won the game and I missed it. :cry: Talk about a swift kick in the groin. I wont miss the next one, thats for sure.

BringJackBack
04-23-2011, 08:36 PM
I hate, hate, hate, HATE the yellow jerseys on the road, but I have to admit that they are pretty awesome at home.

speakout4
04-23-2011, 08:46 PM
Did anyone get an official tally of how many times Carlos Boozer screamed "AAAAYYYY!!!" in this game?
Is Boozer someone everyone can agree is dislikeable?

Trophy
04-23-2011, 08:49 PM
I hate, hate, hate, HATE the yellow jerseys on the road, but I have to admit that they are pretty awesome at home.

I agree.

The Lakers do it, and now the Hornets do it.

We only wear them when the other team is wearing colored uniforms. I guess we wore gold for a special occassion today.

CableKC
04-23-2011, 08:49 PM
If we could play defense like the way that we played in the last play, we'd have won more games. Why we don't do that all the time, I don't know.

As many have probably said in this thread.....that 10 seconds of defense was THE BEST defense that the Team has ever played.

dal9
04-23-2011, 08:52 PM
i would maybe like boozer if he would stop shouting every time anyone breathed on him.

naw.

fixed

Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 08:52 PM
I do not understand how so many Bulls fans were able to get so many tickets today. Pacers fans had at least equal chance of getting tickets. I have to assume that Pacers fans don't care as much as those obnoxious Bulls fans

I have no idea what Josh's stats were today, but he played extremely well, he made a number of little plays that helped us win
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Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 08:56 PM
I have no idea what Josh's stats were today, but he played extremely well, he mae a ton of litle lays that helped us win

Kuq_e_Zi91
04-23-2011, 08:58 PM
The gold jerseys need to stay for Game 5.

dal9
04-23-2011, 09:00 PM
If we could play defense like the way that we played in the last play, we'd have won more games. Why we don't do that all the time, I don't know.

As many have probably said in this thread.....that 10 seconds of defense was THE BEST defense that the Team has ever played.

at about 6 seconds to go, BRush loses Korver at the top of the key a bit, but Noah can't hit him...Jeff arguably helped too much off Boozer, given it is a 3-point game...DJones (of course), Danny and JMac were good...

edit: link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnxWRUa1O94

edit2: Maybe you do help off Boozer, given he has only made 1 3-pointer in his career...but damn, that was close to going in!

CableKC
04-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Aww..Joakim Noah has his hair in a nice little perm.
He uses what is known as a "dirty-mop-tie".;)

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Pacers lead from start to finish and all ESPN can talk about is the number of Bulls fans at the game and Roses's precious ankle.

grace
04-23-2011, 09:02 PM
I do not understand how so many Bulls fans were able to get so many tickets today. Pacers fans had at least equal chance of getting tickets. I have to assume that Pacers fans don't care as much as those obnoxious Bulls fans

I'm assuming the Bulls fans figured they were going to win in 4 games so if you're going on a road trip you might as well go to the game you think will close out the series.

IndyHoya
04-23-2011, 09:02 PM
I have no idea what Josh's stats were today, but he played extremely well, he mae a ton of litle lays that helped us win

Josh did OK. That turnover and clear path foul hurt us a tad though.

Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts

22:46 2-6 0-0 2-4 +4 1 3 2 2 1 0 1 4 6

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 09:03 PM
If we could play defense like the way that we played in the last play, we'd have won more games. Why we don't do that all the time, I don't know.

As many have probably said in this thread.....that 10 seconds of defense was THE BEST defense that the Team has ever played.

I imagine we could play defense that well consistently, but in order to do that we would not have a PG on the court. A line-up of Jones, Rush, George, Foster, Hibbert is probably one of the best defensive line-ups in the leauge. If Hibbert and George are clicking offensively not bad on offense either, but I wouldn't trust any of them with PG duties. I would probably give Jones a chance to prove me wrong, but I would worry. The only wing player I would trust to play PG would be Dunleavy, and he isn't that good of a man to man defender.

sothenrobbiesaid
04-23-2011, 09:04 PM
I don't normally post, but after going to Games 3 & 4, I feel I can drop some random bits of knowledge.

1. You guys wouldn't believe how many Bulls fans showed up today. It was unreal. It truly was United Center South. When the Pacers had the ball, the de-fense! chants drowned out our inspirational offense music.

2. The Bulls fans - a lot has been made of the classiness (or lack thereof), but I was surrounded by Bulls fans and they were all pretty cool. One Bulls fan actually said he was worried about the series because the Bulls have not shown any intensity whatsoever til the later parts of the game. Now, I love my Pacers, but they will not be able to come back against a team like Boston if they keep coming out so flat. Back to the fans though, one group of people starting yelling at me as I was walking in on Pennsylvania. I didn't say a word, but it was a little bit beyond playful trash talk. I just found it amusing because I was just walking and got yelled at, haha.

2a. Highlight of the day - as I'm walking out, a couple of Bulls fans motion me over and politely inquire, "Hey, man. Where's the closest strip club?"

3. Rose had no lift today on his jump shots. EVERYTHING was short. Could the ankle be bothering him more than we know?

4. Props to the bench today. McRoberts, DJ, FIESTY, and AJ really played well. Mike was alright, but let's work on those free throws! Speaking of free throws, I think we missed 11 or so. If we shoot even 75% from the line, this game doesn't require the "Oh my gosh, not again" thoughts that it created.

5. We need to practice bringing the ball up against a trap.

6. Say what you want about Danny, he's made some clutch plays this series. We've got to get our guys to make reads quicker, especially if they are face guarding him like they were.

7. I love watching Kyle Korver shoot.

8. I hate when he makes shots.

9. It'll be interesting to see if Roy makes any comment about his touches today. The way he started the game, it didn't look good. I know he has to read the defense before he makes his move, but this also allows defenders to rotate over to help. He looked really uncomfortable out there. Sometimes I just want him to take it to the hole strong!

10. Carlos Boozer is a punk. Vince Carter has long held my "Most Disliked Player" role, but Boozer is now the top dog in this category. He's chippy, he does a lot of unnoticed stuff (elbows, especially) and oh my goodness does he complain. I don't know if I'm ready to agree with the notion that Boozer just masquerades as a tough guy and isn't worth the money he's getting, but there's no place in the game for some of the stuff he pulls.

11. If we EVER let Conseco become overrun like it was today, it'll be bad news. I vote we attempt to get the 4th/5th seed so we can play Atlanta or Orlando next year. I don't see those folks making the drive!

12. All in all, great win. It's been a heck of a series to watch!
13. I have to leave now.
14. Goodbye :)

Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 09:04 PM
"Yeah I noticed them, and quite frankly it pissed me off"- Danny on Bulls fans

GO DANNY!


I hope the players do speak up.

It pised me off too, really really pissed me off. I'd rather have a half-full arena than witness what I did today

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 09:06 PM
I hope the players do speak up.

It pised me off too, really really pissed me off. I'd rather have a half-full arena than witness what I did today

It just means 10k Bulls fans went home sobbing behind their steering wheels.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 09:07 PM
It was terrible to see on TV.

I couldn't believe how many less Pacers fans showed up today who were there Thursday.

D-BONE
04-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Glad for the win given our effort in this series!

However, our inability to execute in the fourth quarter essentially period is really just awful. And I don't care how good they are. To almost blow the size of lead and momentum we had today is just exasperating.

I know. I know. It's a young team and they have to learn this way. Sorry, but that's not even good enough. I do not believe we have the guy or guys we need to be able to get it done offensively in crunch time.

I am also officially done on Dun. I don't want him back even for el cheapo. Ditto for Rush. I'll take Jones, George, Granger to man the 2/3...unless a great deal for us involving one of them comes up.

Eleazar
04-23-2011, 09:09 PM
2a. Highlight of the day - as I'm walking out, a couple of Bulls fans motion me over and politely inquire, "Hey, man. Where's the closest strip club?"



Haha, did you ask them to ask Jamal Tinsley?

Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 09:09 PM
I also thought it was disrespectful all the noise during the national anthem, is that the way it is in other cities. Or is that a new trend

Trophy
04-23-2011, 09:14 PM
I also thought it was disrespectful all the noise during the national anthem, is that the way it is in other cities. Or is that a new trend

Not that I know of. Most people show respect when the country they live in is being represented.

As rude as New Yorkers can be, they would never disrespect the national anthem. Especially after 9/11.

I've learned a lot about Chicago's fans this past week and it's things I'd be embarrassed of if I were them.

grace
04-23-2011, 09:32 PM
I also thought it was disrespectful all the noise during the national anthem, is that the way it is in other cities. Or is that a new trend

At the Chicago Blackhawk games they cheer so loud during the National Anthem you can't even hear it.

PacerHound
04-23-2011, 09:50 PM
It costs a lot of money to go to a Pacer's game. Chicago, being the size it is, has a lot more people with extra money to throw around. It is not that far a drive either. With the economy like it is, gas prices, etc., and having lost the first 3 I am not surprised too much by the number of Bulls fans versus Pacer fans. That does not mean I like it.

speakout4
04-23-2011, 09:55 PM
It costs a lot of money to go to a Pacer's game. Chicago, being the size it is, has a lot more people with extra money to throw around. It is not that far a drive either. With the economy like it is, gas prices, etc., and having lost the first 3 I am not surprised too much by the number of Bulls fans versus Pacer fans. That does not mean I like it.
They came to party and gloat over a sweep but it wasn't to be. The bloom is off their Rose (pun intended)!

Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Kravitz column tomorow will be about the crowd, he keeps asking about it in the postgame pressers

imawhat
04-23-2011, 10:11 PM
I also thought it was disrespectful all the noise during the national anthem, is that the way it is in other cities. Or is that a new trend

Clippers/Lakers games are completely silent during the anthem.

DTheKing23
04-23-2011, 10:35 PM
http://azzmilkgifs.webs.com/bulls%20lost.gif

Hoop
04-23-2011, 10:44 PM
I don't know how long that post will stay, but it's a pretty funny gif. Go Danny, Go Danny.

Gold
04-23-2011, 11:06 PM
Hilarious gif. :laugh:

Sookie
04-23-2011, 11:37 PM
I agree with him.

When it's really pressure, at the very end, AJ can be really clutch and Collison can really choke.

Neither are the answer.

I think it's more maturity on DC's part. He'll get better, execute better. But today, Vogel shouldn't have brought DC back in so early. Price tends to be better than DC at the end of games as of late. Even game 2 when AJ had played bad early, he was very good at the end.

Personally, I think it's just DC's hyperness/energy working against him. I think the fourth quarter tends to bring out the personality of a player. Price is naturally poised and calm, so it works better. DC just needs to get his energy under control.

But they are second year point guards, and they are going up against the MVP in the league. And quite frankly, for the most part, both have played pretty well. Patience is key here..

But jeez guys, I leave with 2 minutes left and a ten point lead, and we win by 5. Seriously. :laugh:

Oh well, I wish that was the case for all of them.

Unclebuck
04-23-2011, 11:49 PM
But jeez guys, I leave with 2 minutes left and a ten point lead, and we win by 5. Seriously. :laugh:



Leave? you can't leave

Justin Tyme
04-23-2011, 11:58 PM
It pised me off too, really really pissed me off. I'd rather have a half-full arena than witness what I did today


It must have!! I don't ever recall you using any gutteral language in a post before.

asmithxc
04-24-2011, 12:01 AM
It costs a lot of money to go to a Pacer's game. Chicago, being the size it is, has a lot more people with extra money to throw around. It is not that far a drive either. With the economy like it is, gas prices, etc., and having lost the first 3 I am not surprised too much by the number of Bulls fans versus Pacer fans. That does not mean I like it.

Plus the fact that Bulls fans expected to sweep at the beginning of the series and the possible clinching game was on a Saturday afternoon. A lot of Bulls fans I know were trying to buy up tickets for this game as soon as they went on sale.

Not that I like it. But given all the surrounding factors, I wasn't surprised.

Sookie
04-24-2011, 12:04 AM
Leave? you can't leave

Left my house, I figured we had this one...I'm glad I didn't get to see the last bit though..

Unclebuck
04-24-2011, 12:06 AM
Left my house, I figured we had this one...I'm glad I didn't get to see the last bit though..


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CoolHand
04-24-2011, 12:16 AM
Coach V asked about the crowd - "I only heard Pacers fans."

Nice response.

Yeah, I loved that response... I hooted and gave a "way to go, Frank!" to the screen :)

docpaul
04-24-2011, 12:29 AM
Winning feels good.

Some details I noticed:

Collison really gets flustered in full court pressure situations. They moved to this midway through the 4th. This is now a pattern I've seen a few times, but the other particular game I remember seeing him crumble was actually against Golden State, and Jeremy Lin (who's just as small if not smaller than DC) was just crushing him, forcing a lot of turnovers. There are a lot of ways that he could deal with this better.

Hibbert gets pushed out of the block a lot. He needs to add back 10lbs of lean muscular weight to his torso and legs this offseason to lower his center of gravity.

George's offensive game will likely get better with conditioning, as he seems to be expending all of his juice on the defensive end, which makes him look off kilter on his shot sometimes. He needs to let the game slow down for him on the offensive side.

We desperately, desperately need a next generation animal under the post ala a younger Foster. Our team's pipeline is perilously thin here. I actually think that this is a huge huge need. I agree with those who have a stiffy for Varejao. He's our likely best shot for this kind of player. Man if there's a way that we could give up assets + Posey for Varejao, that'd be incredible.

I'm less interested in the model of looking for a "closer". I'd rather encourage the team to mature and spread the load in crunch time. Closing and poise come with experience. I think Granger, Hibbert, George, and Collison have this in them, once they start tasting some consistent success. Who was the closer on the 2004 Pistons team? :) A "go-to" player is all too predictable, as we're beginning to see with Chicago now.

kester99
04-24-2011, 12:53 AM
Re: Tyler's mid-range

I was reminded today of an old Pepsi (?) commercial. Reggie Miller is seen practicing alone in a cavernous empty fieldhouse. No one is present except one little figure sitting at the half-court line. It's Spike Lee. He's practicing his heckling, while Reggie is practicing his shooting.

At one point, Spike stands up and acts like he's holding out a phone for Reggie. He yells, "Hey Reggie! It's the police! They found your jumpshot!"

-----

If anyone finds Tyler's, please bring it back.

Kuq_e_Zi91
04-24-2011, 12:59 AM
I'm hoping that elbow to the head doesn't have anything to do with Tyler's jumper being so erratic. His ear is still swollen and red. I wonder if it's affecting his balance.

tflo
04-24-2011, 01:01 AM
I am surprised no one has talked about this ,but have you looked at the minutes the Chicago Bulls starters have played? Deng 45min. Rose 43min. In todays game. I might be wrong but I think thay have played way to much every game this series. Chicago looked tired today. I think the Pacers are going to start getting the upper hand in this series. To me they looked worn out. Pacers in 7.

tflo
04-24-2011, 01:24 AM
I'm hoping that elbow to the head doesn't have anything to do with Tyler's jumper being so erratic. His ear is still swollen and red. I wonder if it's affecting his balance.

I hope not, We are going to need a good performance from him on Tuesday.

vnzla81
04-24-2011, 01:27 AM
I'm hoping that elbow to the head doesn't have anything to do with Tyler's jumper being so erratic. His ear is still swollen and red. I wonder if it's affecting his balance.

The back of his ear is black, I hope he not trying to man up not telling anybody if he is feeling bad.

spazzxb
04-24-2011, 01:43 AM
I'm hoping that elbow to the head do,esn't have anything to do with Tyler's jumper being so erratic. His ear is still swollen and red. I wonder if it's affecting his balance.

If your talking about game 1, he came back and scored 7 in a row so I think he is ok. The bulls have been been expecting the pick and pop and rose has been making the pass dificult. I am not saying this is the only reason but it is a factor .

tflo
04-24-2011, 02:06 AM
If your talking about game 1, he came back and scored 7 in a row so I think he is ok. The bulls have been been expecting the pick and pop and rose has been making the pass dificult. I am not saying this is the only reason but it is a factor .

Hopefully he was was fully checked out by a Neurologist.

spazzxb
04-24-2011, 02:20 AM
Hopefully he was was fully checked out by a Neurologist.

I certainly would hope with his history, he has been fully evaluated. I wouldn't see any reason we would here about it though.

joeyd
04-24-2011, 02:55 AM
Pacers suck in the 4th because of the players. The coach can't go out there and execute as well.

But remember, these are the players that also played so well in the first 3 quarters. This is youth and playoff jitters. How else do you explain the bad decisions that some of the players are making, and the problems with the ball? Most of what you see are teachable points or become fixed by experience.

joeyd
04-24-2011, 03:12 AM
I do not understand how so many Bulls fans were able to get so many tickets today. Pacers fans had at least equal chance of getting tickets. I have to assume that Pacers fans don't care as much as those obnoxious Bulls fans

Apathy may be part of it, but I did gather from a few Bulls fans today that they targeted the away games (especially the Saturday game) to attend because A) decent tickets at the United Center are too pricey and B) most simply could not get tickets to games 1 and 2.

Eleazar
04-24-2011, 03:16 AM
I am surprised no one has talked about this ,but have you looked at the minutes the Chicago Bulls starters have played? Deng 45min. Rose 43min. In todays game. I might be wrong but I think thay have played way to much every game this series. Chicago looked tired today. I think the Pacers are going to start getting the upper hand in this series. To me they looked worn out. Pacers in 7.

If they are getting tired good, it will just make it easier. If they really are getting tired all the players that went through a lot of time not playing under JOB might end up benefiting this team as they don't have as much wear and tear and won't get tired as quickly.

NuffSaid
04-24-2011, 03:30 AM
I agree that the Bulls got under the Pacers skin, but I also think the Pacers played a very conservative brand of basketball during that last 3-4 minutes. Or to put it another way, they started playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

They began to slow the clock down and go into their half court sets. They've done this in each game where they were leading late in the 4th quarter. Problem is, the Bulls are always waiting for it. They know this team will want to slow the ball down and run clock if they have the lead. What Vogel should do instead is continue to play exactly how they'd been playing the entire game. In other words, do the unexpected. Don't go into your half court set while holding the lead until the 1:30 mark instead of the 3-2:45 mark. It's something myself and other posters in that other Pacers message board are fond of saying, "when you have their backs against the wall and the game clock is whinding down 'put a boot on their necks' and keep them down!" That's something the Pacers must learn. If they somehow find a way to stretch this series to 6 games, I'd say they've figured it out.

So, if anyone here has a Tweeter account and can tweet any of the Pacer players, could you share this tidbit with them? Hopefully, they pass it on to coach Vogel.

mattie
04-24-2011, 04:23 AM
One thing I actually have to say that I respect about the Bulls. And this is literally the only thing I respect about their entire organization... And that is Rose actually. Seriously. He's not a whiner, he's a hard player, takes all the fouls and has repeatedly said it is playoff basketball and hard fouls are a part of that.

He is a far cry from the non-stop whining and crying we see from Noah and Boozer all game long. The guy has been bailed out by the refs most of the series of course but thats not his fault. That's Stern's NBA as we know it....

I've been truly impressed with Rose.

pizza guy
04-24-2011, 05:24 AM
One thing I actually have to say that I respect about the Bulls. And this is literally the only thing I respect about their entire organization... And that is Rose actually. Seriously. He's not a whiner, he's a hard player, takes all the fouls and has repeatedly said it is playoff basketball and hard fouls are a part of that.

He is a far cry from the non-stop whining and crying we see from Noah and Boozer all game long. The guy has been bailed out by the refs most of the series of course but thats not his fault. That's Stern's NBA as we know it....

I've been truly impressed with Rose.

I have to agree. I've never thought as much of Rose as the rest of the NBA, but this series has really impressed me. He really is a very good player, and seems to be a professional and respectable.

That said, let's stomp him into the ground in Game 5!!!

Here's what we're learning about our team:
1.) They are learning how to play in the playoffs and close games. Even if they're not near where they need to be, they're on the way.

2.) We need to draft a bruiser. Not someone who's undersized "but plays with heart." Not someone who's got size but doesn't know how to use it. I'm talking about a serious bad boy. I love Roy and Tyler, but unless they hit the weights hard this offseason, we're going to need to bring in someone to bring the edge and rebounding.

3.) We NEED Kyle Korver. Or someone like him. Jason Kapono is a UFA I believe, and I know he does not play defense, but he can shoot. I don't want him near the starting lineup, or playing major minutes, but to bring him in and let him hit some shots when we need them would be nice. Any interest? Who else can we get to be that type of shooter?

4.) If we got that kind of shooter, maybe Danny could continue being a #1 option. Especially if Hibbert keeps getting better, Hans gets better, PG24 gets better, and DC gets better (and all of that is entirely possible).

5.) Vogel is the coach. If he's not back next year, it will be a crime.

Kuq_e_Zi91
04-24-2011, 06:05 AM
From CJ Watson's (for those saying, "Who?" He's the backup PG for the Bulls) twitter:

http://twitter.com/#!/quietstorm_32/status/61938728842706945

We wanna close it out at home neway!!!

Team Indy
04-24-2011, 06:51 AM
I'm hoping that elbow to the head doesn't have anything to do with Tyler's jumper being so erratic. His ear is still swollen and red. I wonder if it's affecting his balance.

Was Tyler taken out at the end of the game because he wasn't 100% or is Josh a better option due to his better handles? Josh bringing the ball up backfired on that 5,6 point play.

D-BONE
04-24-2011, 07:55 AM
Winning feels good.

Some details I noticed:

Collison really gets flustered in full court pressure situations. They moved to this midway through the 4th. This is now a pattern I've seen a few times, but the other particular game I remember seeing him crumble was actually against Golden State, and Jeremy Lin (who's just as small if not smaller than DC) was just crushing him, forcing a lot of turnovers. There are a lot of ways that he could deal with this better.

Hibbert gets pushed out of the block a lot. He needs to add back 10lbs of lean muscular weight to his torso and legs this offseason to lower his center of gravity.

George's offensive game will likely get better with conditioning, as he seems to be expending all of his juice on the defensive end, which makes him look off kilter on his shot sometimes. He needs to let the game slow down for him on the offensive side.

We desperately, desperately need a next generation animal under the post ala a younger Foster. Our team's pipeline is perilously thin here. I actually think that this is a huge huge need. I agree with those who have a stiffy for Varejao. He's our likely best shot for this kind of player. Man if there's a way that we could give up assets + Posey for Varejao, that'd be incredible.

I'm less interested in the model of looking for a "closer". I'd rather encourage the team to mature and spread the load in crunch time. Closing and poise come with experience. I think Granger, Hibbert, George, and Collison have this in them, once they start tasting some consistent success. Who was the closer on the 2004 Pistons team? :) A "go-to" player is all too predictable, as we're beginning to see with Chicago now.

Agree we all this. As far as the closer part, if we can get one for a reasonable price, it's probably worth pulling the trigger. But the 4/5 spot is arguably a bigger need. And, actually, I think point guard will end up being one, too, which is perhaps the one point I don't agree with.

D-BONE
04-24-2011, 08:00 AM
I agree that the Bulls got under the Pacers skin, but I also think the Pacers played a very conservative brand of basketball during that last 3-4 minutes. Or to point it another way, they started playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

They began to slow the clock down and go into their half court sets. They've done this in each game where they were leading late in the 4th quarter. Problem is, the Bulls are always waiting for it. They know this team will want to slow the ball down and run clock if they have the lead. What Vogel should do instead is continue to play exactly how they'd been playing the entire game. In other words, do the unexpected. Don't go into your half court set while olding the lead until the 1:30 mark instead of the 3-2:45 mark. It's something myself and other posters in that other Pacers message board are fond of saying, "when you have their backs against the wall and the game clock is whinding down 'put a boot on their necks' and keep them down!" That's something the Pacers must learn. If they somehow find a way to stretch this series to 6 games, I'd say they've figured it out.

So, if anyone here has a Tweeter account and can tweet any of the Pacer players, could you share this tidbit with them? Hopefully, they pass it on to coach Vogel.

Absolutely. Have to continue to play aggressively throughout. Continue to push the ball. However, the Bulls also started making shots, which allowed them to start pressing. That gave us a lot of trouble. Can we be more effective there? It may also be a question of simply breaking and attacking as opposed to breaking (when we aren't turning it over!) and then pulling back to run clock.

Sollozzo
04-24-2011, 10:49 AM
Sorry, I'm just not that impressed with Derrick Rose. If we are able to make adjustments to stop him then Boston or Miami will be able to as well. Our physical style of play has clearly flustered him and he's sooooo much less effective when playing on the road and not getting the wussy calls he gets at home. He is shooting an abysmal 35% in this series now. Rest of the league take notice: Just have a guy like Foster lay a couple of tough hits on Rose and it will get in his head and mess with him the rest of the series. And just put a physical perimeter defender like Paul George on him and you'll be OK.

He deserves the MVP but he is not the best player in this league.

The "give the ball to Rose, clear out, and watch him drive to the rack like a wildman while hopefully drawing a foul" scheme might be enough to win a lot of games in the regular season but it is not championship NBA basketball. We've given the rest of the league a blueprint on how to beat these clowns and someone in the East is going to stop them. If we had just a bit more experience at closing games out then it might very well have been us.

Too bad it won't be Miami and Boston in the ECF's because those are without a doubt the two best teams in the East, IMO.

D-BONE
04-24-2011, 11:27 AM
Sorry, I'm just not that impressed with Derrick Rose. If we are able to make adjustments to stop him then Boston or Miami will be able to as well. Our physical style of play has clearly flustered him and he's sooooo much less effective when playing on the road and not getting the wussy calls he gets at home. He is shooting an abysmal 35% in this series now. Rest of the league take notice: Just have a guy like Foster lay a couple of tough hits on Rose and it will get in his head and mess with him the rest of the series. And just put a physical perimeter defender like Paul George on him and you'll be OK.

He deserves the MVP but he is not the best player in this league.

The "give the ball to Rose, clear out, and watch him drive to the rack like a wildman while hopefully drawing a foul" scheme might be enough to win a lot of games in the regular season but it is not championship NBA basketball. We've given the rest of the league a blueprint on how to beat these clowns and someone in the East is going to stop them. If we had just a bit more experience at closing games out then it might very well have been us.

Too bad it won't be Miami and Boston in the ECF's because those are without a doubt the two best teams in the East, IMO.

Yeah...I tend to think this, too. I think the Bulls have a very good team. Don't get me wrong. If Boston can survive Miami, I give them the best shot...especially if they have Shack and JO healthy to run out there and get "physicality" minutes from.

Rondo, I think, can keep Rose reasonably in check on D. And, IMO, the wing through PF contingent of Boston is better. I think Boozer will be shown to be a bit of a sham in terms of physical play by Garnett et. al., but we'll see.

Miami would provide a true challenge, too. They're definitely capable of beating the Bulls, but they may have less margin for error/injury due to the lack of depth.

EDIT: At this point I think it will be interesting just to see how Chicago fares with the Atlanta/Orlando winner. Probably good enough to get through, but not necessarily with ease. Atlanta is very interesting. The clearly underachieved in the regular season. With Orlando, matchup-wise or whatever, they've had some sustained success. Motivated, they're tough, but don't know who guards Rose. Hinrich and who else...Marvin Williams? J

Justin Tyme
04-24-2011, 11:42 AM
Did anyone else see Stern's facial expression when the camera panned in on him when the Pacers were up and playing good? It was like he expected to see the Bulls sweep the series and was absolutely disgusted they were losing. I didn't even realize he was in attendance at the game. Not sure, but it looked like Adam S. was to his right

Sollozzo
04-24-2011, 11:52 AM
Stern always looks like someone p*ssed in his cornflakes. I don't take too much from that.

hoosierguy
04-24-2011, 11:58 AM
Stern always looks like someone p*ssed in his cornflakes.

He enjoys eating his cereal that way.:ill:

NuffSaid
04-24-2011, 12:10 PM
Did anyone else see Stern's facial expression when the camera panned in on him when the Pacers were up and playing good? It was like he expected to see the Bulls sweep the series and was absolutely disgusted they were losing. I didn't even realize he was in attendance at the game. Not sure, but it looked like Adam S. was to his right
That's something else I noticed from ESPN's coverage of the game...no mention that the Commish was in the House, but if he were at Boston, Miama, LA or even Cleveland when LeBron was still there you know there wouldn've been some mention of his attendance there.

Not that I really care that much; it's just a matter of fairness and respect. The Pacers get none even when they perform well and get wins over elite teams. Think back to when the Pacers beat the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Hawks, Magic, and even the Bulls during the regular season. How much publicity did they get compared to when other lower level team beat them? To put it in perspective, the Grizzlies got the headline on ESPN.com for going 2-1 over the Spurs and the Grizzlies was a +.500 team winning over the 2nd-best team in the NBA. Yet the Pacers, the 8th seed in the East who have played the #1 league leading Bulls far better than anyone expected, finally win and they aren't the headliners? Give me a break!

In my book, a -.500 8th place team defeating the NUMBER 1 TEAM IN THE NBA deserves the headline! Especially when they've lead in atleast 9 of 12 quarters and have challenged them in every game.

Sollozzo
04-24-2011, 12:32 PM
That's something else I noticed from ESPN's coverage of the game...no mention that the Commish was in the House, but if he were at Boston, Miama, LA or even Cleveland when LeBron was still there you know there wouldn've been some mention of his attendance there.

Not that I really care that much; it's just a matter of fairness and respect. The Pacers get none even when they perform well and get wins over elite teams. Think back to when the Pacers beat the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Hawks, Magic, and even the Bulls during the regular season. How much publicity did they get compared to when other lower level team beat them? To put it in perspective, the Grizzlies got the headline on ESPN.com for going 2-1 over the Spurs and the Grizzlies was a +.500 team winning over the 2nd-best team in the NBA. Yet the Pacers, the 8th seed in the East who have played the #1 league leading Bulls far better than anyone expected, finally win and they aren't the headliners? Give me a break!

In my book, a -.500 8th place team defeating the NUMBER 1 TEAM IN THE NBA deserves the headline! Especially when they've lead in atleast 9 of 12 quarters and have challenged them in every game.


I think you are overreacting quite a bit. You expect publicity when we beat a good team in the regular season? Seriously? It's an 82 game season and great teams lose to cellar-dwellers all the time. It's not *that* big of a deal. Besides, we got some props for beating Miami and LA early in teh season, IIRC.

What kind of headline do you want for yesterday? ESPN has it on the main page. While our win yesterday is noteworthy, it's not a huge deal because everyone knows this series is over for all pratical purposes. The 8 seeded Grizz taking a 2-1 lead on the Spurs? That's a pretty big deal. The Blazers overcoming a huge deficit to tie the series against Dallas? That's a pretty damn big deal too. Both of those are infinitely more important on the national scene than our win yesterday because those two wins could dictate how the series ends. Our win yesterday would have received far more pub if we had been tying the series up. It was nice and deserves some national mention, but everyone who follows the NBA knows we aren't about to win this series. But those other two series are still completely up in the air.

If I'm an NBA fan of random team X, do I care more about the Pacers narrowly avoiding a sweep than I do the Grizz taking a 2-1 lead over SA or the Blazers tying up the Dallas series? No freaking way.

grace
04-24-2011, 12:38 PM
Leave? you can't leave

I remember people leaving during the finals. I said, "You're seriously leaving before it's over?". Kegboy shushed me and said, "The traffic will be better if they leave."

Marlin
04-24-2011, 02:25 PM
one of my favorite parts of the night was when Boozer yelled "give me that ****" and when he turned around Foster stole it from him... it was after one of our missed free throws.

That, or when he yelled his patented "gimme that ****" on a rebound after Hibbert was fouled...I mean, he looked like the only one trying, everybody else was pretty much standing still. Man did I get a laugh out of that.

Unclebuck
04-24-2011, 05:43 PM
I thought one of the most important things that changed the game was when they overturned the Korver three point by ruling it came over the shot clock expired. Those three points were huge as it got closer in the 4th quarter

pwee31
04-24-2011, 05:49 PM
I thought one of the most important things that changed the game was when they overturned the Korver three point by ruling it came over the shot clock expired. Those three points were huge as it got closer in the 4th quarter

I agree. I was so upset they counted that, and didn't expect a review. When they did review it, and it was overturned, that was a relief

Pacerfan
04-24-2011, 06:09 PM
I thought one of the most important things that changed the game was when they overturned the Korver three point by ruling it came over the shot clock expired. Those three points were huge as it got closer in the 4th quarter

Yea, I feel the Bulls are pretty good at estimating when they need to turn their defense up, but that 3 being overturned kind of messed with their psyche. They looked a little panicked after that and had bad plays that didn't have at the end of the 3 earlier games. Pacers game plan needs to be to gain as big of a lead as they can heading into the last five minutes. Bulls have been here before and know what to do and Pacer's don't yet. This just takes experience and the Pacers will learn. Until then, push that lead as far up as they can the 1st 43 minutes.

spazzxb
04-24-2011, 06:31 PM
Do you have to post as if we have already been eliminated? It appears a lot of posters just want to ignore the series and move on to the offseason. Its kinda sad.




EDIT: At this point I think it will be interesting just to see how Chicago fares with the Atlanta/Orlando winner. Probably good enough to get through, but not necessarily with ease. Atlanta is very interesting. The clearly underachieved in the regular season. With Orlando, matchup-wise or whatever, they've had some sustained success. Motivated, they're tough, but don't know who guards Rose. Hinrich and who else...Marvin Williams? J

D-BONE
04-24-2011, 07:05 PM
Do you have to post as if we have already been eliminated? It appears a lot of posters just want to ignore the series and move on to the offseason. Its kinda sad.

Following up on the line of thought of the poster who I quoted. I recognize it's not beyond the realm of possibility we win this series. However, it would be an historically massive accomplishment for NBA postseason.

My comment in no way means that I want our series to end or I would be unhappy to see us miraculously win this thing. If Rose's ankle is worse than thought, we might have an bigger opening.

I will be ecstatic to win any number of games beyond the one victory we have up to the series, in which case I would be downright euphoric. I was just wondering out loud about possible matchups with other EC playoff opponents for Chicago. Do I say anywhere I can't wait for the offseason?

If we can't speak in hypotheticals, there's virtually nothing to dialogue about at PD now is there?

spazzxb
04-24-2011, 08:02 PM
I chose your post to quote but that wasn't directed specifically at you. Just stating a general annoyance with the overall mood of the board. I don't think there was a series related thread in the top ten on the board yesterday afternoon until the game thread was started .


Following up on the line of thought of the poster who I quoted. I recognize it's not beyond the realm of possibility we win this series. However, it would be an historically massive accomplishment for NBA postseason.

My comment in no way means that I want our series to end or I would be unhappy to see us miraculously win this thing. If Rose's ankle is worse than thought, we might have an bigger opening.

I will be ecstatic to win any number of games beyond the one victory we have up to the series, in which case I would be downright euphoric. I was just wondering out loud about possible matchups with other EC playoff opponents for Chicago. Do I say anywhere I can't wait for the offseason?

If we can't speak in hypotheticals, there's virtually nothing to dialogue about at PD now is there?