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Kstat
04-14-2011, 01:31 AM
It was pretty clear the last few days of the season that Memphis wanted the Spurs in round 1, and now they've got them. Losing a player as talented as Rudy Gay would be a death blow to most team, but the Grizzlies have been even better in his absence. The return of Shane Battier has given the Grizz the veteran leadership they lacked, and Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol have become the NBA's best 1-2 frontcourt combo.

The Spurs held the NBA's best record until the final day, and have been on cruise control for weeks. But a late injury to Manu Ginobili could leave them vulnerable, as could their poor interior defense against two frontcourt scorers. Still, the Grizzlies as a franchise have never won a single playoff game since joining the NBA for the 95-96 season, and it's hard to see them taking out the Spurs in this series.

Prediction: Spurs in 6

IUfan4life
04-14-2011, 01:36 AM
Grizzlies in 6.
Z-bo going to carry the griz for all 42 minutes.

15th parallel
04-14-2011, 01:58 AM
Spurs in 4.

Manu's late injury is they key. If he gets healthy before the start and for the whole series, it's a sweep.

xtacy
04-14-2011, 03:48 AM
spurs in 5.

Constellations
04-14-2011, 04:08 AM
Grizzlies in 7.

Unclebuck
04-14-2011, 08:14 AM
Grizzlies will play them well - but Spurs will win in the end

Major Cold
04-14-2011, 09:16 AM
Spurs in 6

BRushWithDeath
04-14-2011, 09:40 AM
Spurs in 6.

Brad8888
04-14-2011, 10:59 AM
Spurs in 6, less with healthy Ginobli.

Shade
04-14-2011, 11:26 AM
Spurs in 5, despite their late-season slide. Assuming, of course, a healthy Manu.

If Manu is unable to play, however, I could see the Grizz taking the series.

vnzla81
04-14-2011, 12:23 PM
Spurs in 6

BKK
04-14-2011, 12:34 PM
Spurs in 5

KingGeorge
04-14-2011, 06:43 PM
Spurs in 7

BringJackBack
04-14-2011, 06:46 PM
Spurs in 6.

ZBo has a field day on SA despite Duncan's best defensive efforts, but ultimately too much TP and Manu.

shags
04-14-2011, 09:45 PM
Spurs in 6. Memphis matches up real well in this one (so much so that they tanked to get this matchup), but I like the Spurs experience to get it done.

jeffg-body
04-14-2011, 09:48 PM
Spurs in 7

KingGeorge
04-14-2011, 09:52 PM
ESPN is saying that Manu is doubtful for game 1.

Trophy
04-14-2011, 09:59 PM
The Grizzlies are gonna give the Spurs a pretty big scare I think and send it to a game 7, but the Spurs hold up and win it.

ChristianDudley
04-14-2011, 11:13 PM
I honestly think the Grizz will win it. I think Tony Allen will do a heck of a job on Manu defensively, as well as Sam Young. This will definitely be a great series to watch!

Trophy
04-17-2011, 01:24 PM
This is actually a really good series.

The Grizzlies are a solid, young team with a lot of potential. Getting into the playoffs for the first time since 2006. Rebuilding with a young core. Like us.

Even without arguably their best player in Rudy Gay, they still made the playoffs.

I won't be surprised if the Grizzlies do upset the Spurs.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 01:28 PM
Memphis looks more agressive, SA don't have an answer for Zbo

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 01:30 PM
Memphis offense is nice to watch, they move the ball around until they finally get a good shot.

Trophy
04-17-2011, 01:32 PM
Mike Conley is one of most underrated PGs in the league.

xIndyFan
04-17-2011, 01:54 PM
blair is having the same kind of trouble against MEM that darren did against the bulls. just too short to get a shot off in traffic. tough to be undersized [or at least too short] even if you are strong. if you lack size, guys can guard you by controlling the air above you.

does make me miss the antonio, dale and rik shot blocking days. they did a real nice job of protecting the rim.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 02:26 PM
Memphis would be destroying SA if they had Rudy

Kstat
04-17-2011, 02:29 PM
....and SA would be destroying Memphis if they had Manu.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 02:35 PM
....and SA would be destroying Memphis if they had Manu.

We would know that next game if Manu plays, to bad Rudy is out for the year.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 03:33 PM
Good game so far, Memphis is not going away.

Kstat
04-17-2011, 03:41 PM
the best frontline in the NBA showed up today. All that stockpiling of big men Memphis has done over the past 4 years is finally paying off.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 03:51 PM
Booner is killing Memphis now, what a game :-o

Dr. Hibbert
04-17-2011, 03:53 PM
The Grizz need to share some drinks at the sad bar with the Pacers after this collapse.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 03:56 PM
This have to be the best game so far, great game for Memphis.

Pacerfan
04-17-2011, 03:57 PM
The 1-8 match-ups in the east and west might be the best series in the playoffs this year.

Pacerfan
04-17-2011, 03:58 PM
Gotta feel good for Memphis. Hopefully the Pacers experience this feeling next game :)

Dr. Hibbert
04-17-2011, 03:59 PM
Zach Randolph to Indiana please.

Kuq_e_Zi91
04-17-2011, 04:02 PM
The best games of the playoffs so far have been both 1 vs 8 match-ups.

The Grizzlies stumbled down the stretch, but the Spurs couldn't make them pay. They had good looks.

Yesterday, Rose capitalized and players like Korver hit shots that the Spurs missed.

Jared Sullinger
04-17-2011, 04:02 PM
Zach Randolph to Indiana please.

He's not a winner; his stats are empty. I also heard he was involved in JFK's assassination. Besides, Josh McRoberts will be better next year. Some 13 year old wrote an article on Bleacher Report saying so.

Justin Tyme
04-17-2011, 05:58 PM
This was a really good game. Down the stretch at the end I kept thinking de ja vu from last night 1-8 match up with the #1 pulling it out. Ah, different outcome this time. :)

I have liked Memphis the last 2-3 years and felt they had a nice young team coming together. At times, I have been a little envious of them. I like Rudy Gay, he's a player I'd trade Granger for in a heartbeat. I never felt he'd be as good as he's become when he was drafted. Conley finally seems to have gotten it together. If the Pacers moved out of town tomorrow, Memphis would probably be my new team. Hollins seems to be a good coach. I'm not sold on their cheap owner though. Nice win for them!! I hope they can keep winning.

When the Pacers were trying to S&T Quis with the Celtics, I wanted Allen as part of the deal. Many weren't interested in him b/c of his past injury, but I'd still like to have him wearing a Pacers uni.

BringJackBack
04-17-2011, 08:08 PM
He's not a winner; his stats are empty. I also heard he was involved in JFK's assassination. Besides, Josh McRoberts will be better next year. Some 13 year old wrote an article on Bleacher Report saying so.

POTY material right here. Short, sweet, to the point, and so ****ing true.

Hoop
04-20-2011, 09:25 PM
My gosh Sean Elliot is a sickening homer. Why the hell does he get assigned to the Spurs game.

Trophy
04-20-2011, 09:46 PM
The Grizzlies look like they can compete.

One of the most underrated teams in the league and even without Rudy Gay, they're able to get it done.

The Spurs announcers are making this seem like a regular season game.

pacer4ever
04-21-2011, 10:24 AM
He's not a winner; his stats are empty. I also heard he was involved in JFK's assassination. Besides, Josh McRoberts will be better next year. Some 13 year old wrote an article on Bleacher Report saying so.

LOL I was about to blow up after I saw J-mac would be better than i saw it was BR :laugh:

Unclebuck
04-21-2011, 11:18 AM
My gosh Sean Elliot is a sickening homer. Why the hell does he get assigned to the Spurs game.


Because he is the Spurs analyst. And NBATV just picks up the local feed. Tonight I expexct NBATV to pick up our local feed with Chris and quinn

Kstat
04-21-2011, 11:20 AM
I hate Sean Elliott. He's a lousy commentator too. You expect local guys to be homers, but he adds nothing at all to the game.

Trophy
04-21-2011, 11:50 AM
I hate Sean Elliott. He's a lousy commentator too. You expect local guys to be homers, but he adds nothing at all to the game.

When you call games and you refer to the team you're calling as "we", "our", and "us" you shouldn't be doing public announcing.

Announcers need to not look at themselves as fans, but as professionals who call games for the team.

Chris, Quinn, and Clark when he's there speak with more knowledge and aren't homers.

Kstat
04-21-2011, 12:31 PM
When you call games and you refer to the team you're calling as "we", "our", and "us" you shouldn't be doing public announcing.

Announcers need to not look at themselves as fans, but as professionals who call games for the team.

Chris, Quinn, and Clark when he's there speak with more knowledge and aren't homers.

I love how every home team's fans think 'their" guys are the only unbiased commentators in sports...

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Trophy
04-21-2011, 12:53 PM
I love how every home team's fans think 'their" guys are the only unbiased commentators in sports...

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I don't get your point?

What are they doing that's being biased?

They're happy the Pacers won with a nice tip in shot. Doesn't make them homers.

I'm not saying their unbiased because they're Pacers announcers, I'm saying it because it's the truth.

ilive4sports
04-21-2011, 03:44 PM
I love how every home team's fans think 'their" guys are the only unbiased commentators in sports...

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Kstat, I would agree that Chris and Quinn show bias, but they are far better than a lot of teams out there. But you really chose a bad video to show it. I mean, a tip in to beat the lakers, if they aren't excited in that moment, they arent doing their job.

cdash
04-23-2011, 07:59 PM
I like this Grizzlies team. I really think they could beat San Antonio.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 08:02 PM
This Memphis team could be contender next year with Gay healthy.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 08:03 PM
I like this Grizzlies team. I really think they could beat San Antonio.

Unlike the Pacers, the Grizzlies finished 10 games over .500 and would have been the #5 seed in the East.

This 1-8 matchup is much more even.

cdash
04-23-2011, 08:04 PM
This Memphis team could be contender next year with Gay healthy.

Yeah. I love the Shane Battier acquisition. That dude is a gamer. I watched him a lot in Houston last year. Fans love him and he plays balls out at all times. Great, great sixth man.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 08:05 PM
The Grizzlies are fun to watch and are incredibly underrated.

They're going to be dangerous with Rudy Gay back.

They're young like us and hungry for wins and to be back in the playoffs.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 08:06 PM
Yeah. I love the Shane Battier acquisition. That dude is a gamer. I watched him a lot in Houston last year. Fans love him and he plays balls out at all times. Great, great sixth man.

Yeah I like him too, hey he is also a free agent :signit:

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 08:06 PM
Yeah I like him too, hey he is also a free agent :signit:

SIGN HIM!!!

He would make a huge difference for the Pacers. The guy is the anti-Lance in the lockerroom.

DemonHunter1105
04-23-2011, 08:07 PM
I just don't think the Spurs are nearly as good as their record indicates. We could give them a run for their money the way we are playing Chicago. The only person that scares me on SA anymore is Manu.

cdash
04-23-2011, 08:07 PM
Yeah I like him too, hey he is also a free agent :signit:

If he could be had for a reasonable price, I would love to bring him off the bench.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 08:09 PM
I love how Memphis moves the ball, those guys are unselfish.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 08:09 PM
I just don't think the Spurs are nearly as good as their record indicates. We could give them a run for their money the way we are playing Chicago. The only person that scares me on SA anymore is Manu.

I am amazed they won 61 games. They overachieved significantly in the regular season.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 08:16 PM
Nice pass

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 08:18 PM
I love how my guy Greivis controls the tempo, he is going to be nice next year.

Trophy
04-23-2011, 08:24 PM
The Grizzlies have so much depth so they don't miss a beat when the starters sit down.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 09:49 PM
just struck me how like the spurs are like the late '90's pacers. memphis has been running and gunning and passing and shooting dominating the whole game. but the spurs are only 5 down with 5 min to play. . . and suddenly back in the game.

xIndyFan
04-23-2011, 09:52 PM
boy does zach randolph have the best hands in the league or not. a lot like chris webber.

ensergio
04-23-2011, 10:02 PM
I don't want OJ Mayo in the Pacers.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 10:04 PM
The Grizzlies have earned their fans back.

That place is rocking. Kind of like Thursday night at the Fieldhouse, but I'm sure pretty much everyone at the Grizzlies game is a fan of them. I don't hear any cheers for the Spurs.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 10:06 PM
Another good game

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 10:07 PM
The Grizzlies have earned their fans back.

That place is rocking. Kind of like Thursday night at the Fieldhouse, but I'm sure pretty much everyone at the Grizzlies game is a fan of them. I don't hear any cheers for the Spurs.

San Antonio is a small market almost 1000 miles from Memphis. Why would there be any Spurs fans there?

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 10:11 PM
San Antonio is a small market almost 1000 miles from Memphis. Why would there be any Spurs fans there?

You're changing the subject around by adding market sizes.

I'm just saying the Grizzlies have earned their fanbase back.

The Spurs are good and might have gotten some bandwagon fans.

The Grizzlies have had low attendance for a while.

These fans at the game now are probably going to stick with the team and hopefully those here in Indy will stick with the Pacers.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 10:13 PM
That Burger King commercial is so lame.

That lady using a chicken nugget as a tough screen smart phone.

Shade
04-23-2011, 10:18 PM
Manu choked.

Randolph is a beast.

vnzla81
04-23-2011, 10:19 PM
Zbo is dancing LOL

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 10:20 PM
I tip my hat off to the Memphis Grizzlies.

They earned their fans back, hopefully like us.

They've been low in attendance for as long as we have and now I think it'll all change for both teams.

I wonder who will be last now?

AesopRockOn
04-23-2011, 10:23 PM
That last play. I don't know what to say. Unbelievably stupid and unaware.

hoosierguy
04-23-2011, 11:19 PM
You're changing the subject around by adding market sizes.

I'm just saying the Grizzlies have earned their fanbase back.

The Spurs are good and might have gotten some bandwagon fans.

The Grizzlies have had low attendance for a while.

These fans at the game now are probably going to stick with the team and hopefully those here in Indy will stick with the Pacers.

Market size and geography have a ton do with fan support. The Grizzlies finished 10 games over .500. They are a good team unlike the Pacers for most of the season.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 11:22 PM
Market size and geography have a ton do with fan support. The Grizzlies finished 10 games over .500. They are a good team unlike the Pacers for most of the season.

I know! I know! I know!

Basketball Fan
04-24-2011, 12:39 PM
That Burger King commercial is so lame.

That lady using a chicken nugget as a tough screen smart phone.

And yet its less creepy than the "Burger King"

Pingu
04-25-2011, 10:06 PM
Damn, SA is getting dismantled by the Grizz.

Trophy
04-25-2011, 10:16 PM
Memphis is the real deal and they're doing this without their best player.

LoneGranger33
04-25-2011, 10:16 PM
I'm shocked. I think this is a bigger upset than the Dallas-GS series of a few years back.

15th parallel
04-25-2011, 10:37 PM
Wow...just, wow...

I know the Grizz are good, but I didn't think that this series will go lopsided against the Spurs. What's happening with the Spurs?

Doddage
04-25-2011, 10:41 PM
I'm shocked. I think this is a bigger upset than the Dallas-GS series of a few years back.
I don't. SA came into the series with the best player of their team injured. But that aside, Memphis has a very good team with one of the best frontlines in the league. They've had a distinct advantage in that department against SA who has a declining Tim Duncan and not much else.

Dallas had everything going for them in 2007. Defending Western Conference Champions, Coach of the Year, MVP, best record in the league. GS beating them was definitely a bigger upset.

vnzla81
04-25-2011, 10:44 PM
I think SA is going to start the rebuilding process sooner, who do we want from there?

Unclebuck
04-25-2011, 10:49 PM
I'm not shocked either. The Grizzlies are really good, if you look at their record since January 1st it is one of the best in the NBA. If you watch the Grizzlies play they are just really good

vnzla81
04-25-2011, 10:51 PM
I'm not shocked either. The Grizzlies are really good, if you look at their record since January 1st it is one of the best in the NBA. If you watch the Grizzlies play they are just really good

They have a good coach too, they play unselfish basketball and they pass the ball few times before they take a shot.

By the way who are they going to play if they go to the second round?

Marlin
04-25-2011, 10:52 PM
I don't. SA came into the series with the best player of their team injured. But that aside, Memphis has a very good team with one of the best frontlines in the league. They've had a distinct advantage in that department against SA who has a declining Tim Duncan and not much else.

Dallas had everything going for them in 2007. Defending Western Conference Champions, Coach of the Year, MVP, best record in the league. GS beating them was definitely a bigger upset.

That, and SA has been slumping bad late in the regular season.

Doddage
04-25-2011, 10:56 PM
They have a good coach too, they play unselfish basketball and they pass the ball few times before they take a shot.

By the way who are they going to play if they go to the second round?
OKC/Denver

Unclebuck
04-25-2011, 10:58 PM
They have a good coach too, they play unselfish basketball and they pass the ball few times before they take a shot.

By the way who are they going to play if they go to the second round?

OKC

LoneGranger33
04-25-2011, 11:08 PM
I don't. SA came into the series with the best player of their team injured. But that aside, Memphis has a very good team with one of the best frontlines in the league. They've had a distinct advantage in that department against SA who has a declining Tim Duncan and not much else.

Dallas had everything going for them in 2007. Defending Western Conference Champions, Coach of the Year, MVP, best record in the league. GS beating them was definitely a bigger upset.

Well, I certainly didn't think the Spurs would sweep. I actually bet and won money on Memphis' Game 1 win. I just never expected the Spurs to go down in a 1-8 first round matchup. As you guys have pointed out, all the evidence should have prepared me for the possibility, but I think in the back of my mind, I still assumed the Spurs would win. They've just been so stable over the past decade. Dallas, on the other hand, was coming off the Finals collapse to the Heat, have never been known for their mental toughness, and Golden State was a hot (if streaky) team with tremendous athleticism. I'm still shocked at how dominant Memphis has been in this series.

JB24
04-25-2011, 11:18 PM
This is looking a bit too far ahead, but how random would an NBA Finals featuring the Memphis Grizzlies be? Everyone should be rooting for this.

vnzla81
04-25-2011, 11:23 PM
So who would we like to get from SA? Do you guys think they are going into rebuilding mode?

JB24
04-25-2011, 11:29 PM
Remember when some (myself included) were hoping for that TP for Murph+ #10 trade? Thank god that didn't happen.

idioteque
04-25-2011, 11:30 PM
So who would we like to get from SA? Do you guys think they are going into rebuilding mode?

Everyone I want they probably consider members of their young core that they've already put together for a rebuild. I think they are trying to pull off a rebuild on the fly like the Pacers did after the 2000 Finals.

IUfan4life
04-26-2011, 01:29 AM
So who would we like to get from SA? Do you guys think they are going into rebuilding mode?

you mean, Rudy Gay from Memphis. or Tony Allen.

ballism
04-26-2011, 06:11 AM
So who would we like to get from SA? Do you guys think they are going into rebuilding mode?

1. Not going to happen, but Manu would be perfect for us. Vet winner who is one of the greatest creators and closers from the wing over the last decade. He completes us. If he's healthy (not asking 100%, only this season's health), we can go deep. And PG gets time to mature into his replacement.

2. Tiago Splitter. They haven't played him much as they prefered a stretch 4 backup in Bonner, and DeJuan Blair as starter. Which makes me wonder, is he maybe more available than their other young guys? He's exactly what you want to complete our frontline (if we can't add a star big). A long athletic defender who can play both 4 and 5.

rexnom
04-26-2011, 06:56 AM
I'm not sure they're missing what Rudy Gay brings to the table in this series. Tony Allen has been excellent.

Unclebuck
04-26-2011, 08:19 AM
I'm not sure they're missing what Rudy Gay brings to the table in this series. Tony Allen has been excellent.


I agree, without Gay they have rol players at the 1,2, and 3 and that allows Zack and gasol to be the focal point of their team.

Disclaimer: I don't watch the Grizzlies enough to know if they are better overall with Gay - I would doubt they are. Maybe they are better against the Spurs?

Grizzlies are 35-18 since jan. 1st.

vnzla81
04-26-2011, 08:49 AM
Man I would love to get our hand on Manu, he could be our perfect 6th man.

Unclebuck
04-26-2011, 08:54 AM
Man I would love to get our hand on Manu, he could be our perfect 6th man.


6th man? He'd be our best player. (I think). For sure he'd be our best player at the end of games

BRushWithDeath
04-26-2011, 09:07 AM
6th man? He'd be our best player. (I think). For sure he'd be our best player at the end of games

He'd be our best player by a wide margin.

Trader Joe
04-26-2011, 09:14 AM
Memphis is the real deal and they're doing this without their best player.

What? Zach Randolph is playing.

vnzla81
04-26-2011, 09:33 AM
6th man? He'd be our best player. (I think). For sure he'd be our best player at the end of games

He was SA 6th man for few years and still their best player, not doubt he would be our best player and he could be our closer too, what kind of package could we send to get him if he is available?

Justin Tyme
04-26-2011, 09:41 AM
1. Not going to happen, but Manu would be perfect for us. Vet winner who is one of the greatest creators and closers from the wing over the last decade. He completes us. If he's healthy (not asking 100%, only this season's health), we can go deep. And PG gets time to mature into his replacement.

2. Tiago Splitter. They haven't played him much as they prefered a stretch 4 backup in Bonner, and DeJuan Blair as starter. Which makes me wonder, is he maybe more available than their other young guys? He's exactly what you want to complete our frontline (if we can't add a star big). A long athletic defender who can play both 4 and 5.



Splitter is 1 of a half dozen PF's I feel could help the Pacers. To me it's highly doubtful, that the Spurs would let him go considering the age of their team. It's obvious they are going to have to rebuild with youth.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 02:24 PM
I think I want the Grizzlies to come out of the west. Beat the Spurs, then the Lakers and then the Thunder or Mavs. Although I think I['d rather the Thunder beat the Grizz

Isaac
04-27-2011, 02:36 PM
I think I want the Grizzlies to come out of the west. Beat the Spurs, then the Lakers and then the Thunder or Mavs. Although I think I['d rather the Thunder beat the Grizz

Mempis plays OKC in the second round if they both get through. I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs come back to win this series, but neither team has any chance against OKC.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Mempis plays OKC in the second round if they both get through. I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs come back to win this series, but neither team has any chance against OKC.


Thanks, my bad. I agree I think a Thunder vs Lakers WCF should be really, really good. Even though I hope the lakers lose before then, I think that would be a great series

Haywoode Workman
04-27-2011, 09:10 PM
why the hell is this silly miami game on instead of the spurs/grizzlies? god i hate the nba sometimes. ok, a lot of the time.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 10:21 PM
Another great game, Looks like Memphis wants to finish it today.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 10:28 PM
why the hell is this silly miami game on instead of the spurs/grizzlies? god i hate the nba sometimes. ok, a lot of the time.
The fact is the ratings would be better Heat game than the Spurs vs Grizzlies. That might not be fair, but it is the truth.

Grizzlies just look like a better team than the Spurs

Pingu
04-27-2011, 10:36 PM
Spurs look like they are going down. I think this is the end of the Duncan era...

Trophy
04-27-2011, 10:36 PM
What? Zach Randolph is playing.

I was talking about Rudy Gay.

Trophy
04-27-2011, 10:37 PM
This may be the end of the Spurs.

The Grizzlies look like they will contend in the West for many years.

pwee31
04-27-2011, 10:39 PM
This Grizzlies announcing team makes me appreciate Chris Denari w/ Quinn or Clark that much more.

I understand you're Grizzlies announcers, but you don't have to be obvious about it when you're being broadcasted nationally

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 10:41 PM
This referees are calling some BS fouls against Memphis keeping the Spurs close.

Doddage
04-27-2011, 10:43 PM
Really tough break for the Spurs this year. They win 60+ games, their best player gets injured in the very last game of the season, right before they have to go up against one of the better 8th seeds in history. A team which happens to be the worst possible matchup for them.

Their core isn't getting any younger, but they're committed to them for the next few seasons. They'll need to be aggressive in shoring up their frontcourt and developing some of their young players like Anderson and Splitter.

Trophy
04-27-2011, 10:44 PM
This Grizzlies announcing team makes me appreciate Chris Denari w/ Quinn or Clark that much more.

I understand you're Grizzlies announcers, but you don't have to be obvious about it when you're being broadcasted nationally

I actually thought they were pretty good this season.

Not as homer as a lot of announcers.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 10:45 PM
Parker is visibly slowed down by his calf problems.

Jared Sullinger
04-27-2011, 10:50 PM
why the hell is this silly miami game on instead of the spurs/grizzlies? god i hate the nba sometimes. ok, a lot of the time.

The West's #1 seed, on the brink of elimination and potentially the death of the their great mini-dynasty, being placed on lowly NBA TV. It's almost offensive, isn't it?

Doddage
04-27-2011, 10:56 PM
Damn, Z.Bo is good.

Jared Sullinger
04-27-2011, 10:56 PM
Everyone who was against us bringing in Z-Bo in the offseason deserves to be pointed to and laughed at.

graphic-er
04-27-2011, 10:58 PM
wow what finish this is.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:00 PM
OMG wow

Trophy
04-27-2011, 11:01 PM
:-o!!!!!

graphic-er
04-27-2011, 11:01 PM
wow what a shot!

Jared Sullinger
04-27-2011, 11:01 PM
Holy ****. That was Reggie-like.

righteouscool
04-27-2011, 11:01 PM
what a crazy shot by manu

graphic-er
04-27-2011, 11:02 PM
Amazing I thought the Grizzlies had that lose ball. Amazing shot off a broken play. Manu is simply one of the best.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:02 PM
Holy ****. That was Reggie-like.

That is actually Manu like.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:02 PM
Not enough evidence to overturn this, even though it might be a 2.

Trophy
04-27-2011, 11:03 PM
That is a 2.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:03 PM
Last replay shows it's a 2 for sure.

Doddage
04-27-2011, 11:03 PM
Ruled a 2-pointer. Game changer.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:03 PM
Yep is a 2, wow what a game.

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:05 PM
This looks like the end of a dynasty, time for the Spurs to start rebuilding.

Jared Sullinger
04-27-2011, 11:07 PM
Randolph has scored Memphis' last six points.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:08 PM
A-ma-ZING!

Trophy
04-27-2011, 11:08 PM
OMG!

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:08 PM
Damn

SycamoreKen
04-27-2011, 11:09 PM
What a shot!

Haywoode Workman
04-27-2011, 11:09 PM
what a game!

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:10 PM
best first round ever

SycamoreKen
04-27-2011, 11:10 PM
1.7 is why Delaney should have reviewed the play at the end of the 1st half and put more time on the clock. I hope the Spurs win. I get free coffee if they do!

Doddage
04-27-2011, 11:10 PM
What a shot by Neal. That's a ballsy play call by Pop, going with the rookie.

Jared Sullinger
04-27-2011, 11:11 PM
Apparently, Jesus is in attendance:

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/3994/jesusa.jpg

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:11 PM
best first round ever

Ever?

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:11 PM
they are showing this game on TNT

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:12 PM
Ever?


I can't remember a better first round, so many close games and upsets, comebacks........

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:16 PM
"Z-bo with a Z-bound" WTF?

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:16 PM
"Z-bo with the Z-bound"

that is funny

ndcoltsnpacers
04-27-2011, 11:17 PM
"Z-bo with a Z-bound" WTF?

I was wondering if I'd heard that right. Wonder if that was a mistake or something he says a lot.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:19 PM
I was wondering if I'd heard that right. Wonder if that was a mistake or something he says a lot.


sounds like he says it a lot.

Grizzlies have lost some intensity

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:19 PM
Horrible play there.

Doddage
04-27-2011, 11:19 PM
SA now in the driver's seat after that missed shot from Gasol.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:20 PM
Somebody on the TNT crew said, talking about the two games going on, "This is great basketball on both ends on the coast." :D

ndcoltsnpacers
04-27-2011, 11:21 PM
I'd be pissed right now if I were a thunder or nuggets fan.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:26 PM
I'd be pissed right now if I were a thunder or nuggets fan.


I think the pacers were the only franchise not to have their own local broadcasts. So people in OKC and Denver are able to watch that series

vnzla81
04-27-2011, 11:26 PM
Is over, good for us that we get to watch another game with this two teams :D

Doddage
04-27-2011, 11:28 PM
This game might have been the Grizz's golden opportunity to win the series. SA gained some needed momentum from this win.

Pingu
04-27-2011, 11:30 PM
Insofar as SA needed TWO big shots to send this game to OT, I like the Grizz's chances back in Memphis.

Unclebuck
04-27-2011, 11:30 PM
This game might have been the Grizz's golden opportunity to win the series. SA gained some needed momentum from this win.


I'm not a believer in the notion that momentum carries over from one playoff game to the next. In fact often times the team that loses comes out even harder the next game

Doddage
04-27-2011, 11:52 PM
I'm not a believer in the notion that momentum carries over from one playoff game to the next. In fact often times the team that loses comes out even harder the next game
We'll see. I don't think you want to give a team like the Spurs any more chances to win a series.

Unclebuck
04-28-2011, 10:52 AM
We'll see. I don't think you want to give a team like the Spurs any more chances to win a series.


I agree with you 100% about that. If I were a Grizzlies fan I woul;d be very nervous, but would find a little peace in the fact that through 5 games the Grizzlies have proven to be a little better than the Spurs.

clownskull
04-29-2011, 12:28 AM
that was a hell of a game 5. the spurs managed to survive another day. although, i think the writing is on the wall. the spurs look old and slow compared to the grizz.
they look much slower just like dallas did against golden state a while back.
duncan is no longer the kind of guy who can get you 35 and 15 with 2-4 blocks.

even though they had a better record, i don't think the spurs are as good as memphis.

15th parallel
04-29-2011, 04:40 AM
Injuries to key players have hampered this current Spurs team. I believe they can still get out of the hole they're into right now, they just need to play tough defense that have made them NBA champions. They're too much offensive-oriented right now as compared to previous Spurs team.

ballism
04-29-2011, 05:25 AM
Injuries to key players have hampered this current Spurs team. I believe they can still get out of the hole they're into right now, they just need to play tough defense that have made them NBA champions. They're too much offensive-oriented right now as compared to previous Spurs team.

How do you play tough defense, when Marc Gasol eats Duncan alive? Gasol plays very physical game, and he is too big, too strong for current Duncan.

Splitter is the only one on that roster who can hang around with Gasol physically, but Spurs haven't played him all year. DeJuan Blair is pretty much a disaster in this series. The only option seems to be - keep shooting, and hope Splitter can very quickly readjust to a big role.

Major Cold
04-29-2011, 10:27 AM
The key is for the Spurs young shooters to catch fire. They haven't had that in this series.

15th parallel
04-29-2011, 10:32 AM
How do you play tough defense, when Marc Gasol eats Duncan alive? Gasol plays very physical game, and he is too big, too strong for current Duncan.

Splitter is the only one on that roster who can hang around with Gasol physically, but Spurs haven't played him all year. DeJuan Blair is pretty much a disaster in this series. The only option seems to be - keep shooting, and hope Splitter can very quickly readjust to a big role.

I know Duncan can still do it. I have seen him play good defense in the regular season. Although I consider this season as the start of the end of the Duncan era, regardless if they still catch up in this series or not.

Unclebuck
04-29-2011, 02:37 PM
Something tells me there is always at least one game #7 in the first round and since this is the only series left, I see the spurs winning tonight

ilive4sports
04-29-2011, 03:43 PM
I would like to think that too UB, but I just don't think they will be able to win in Memphis tonight. They hit two very difficult/lucky shots to get it into overtime the other night. I don't think they have that luck in Memphis tonight.

Trophy
04-29-2011, 04:10 PM
Memphis is gonna win tonight.

With all these all games being pretty close, I was surprised there hasn't been a game 7.

shags
04-29-2011, 08:58 PM
Something tells me there is always at least one game #7 in the first round and since this is the only series left, I see the spurs winning tonight

I don't. That Game 5 reminded me of the Pistons-Lakers Game 2 in the 2004 NBA Finals. Even though the Lakers won that game, the Pistons came out KNOWING they were the better team.

The Grizzlies KNOW they're the better team. Unless Duncan can pull out an old school 25-15 tonight (and he doesn't have that in him anymore), I think the Grizzlies win by about 10.

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Vasquez ..................... :dance:

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 09:26 PM
Memphis looks like is ready to take this game today.

Pingu
04-29-2011, 09:28 PM
What's up with DeJuan Blair? Is he injured?

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 09:33 PM
What's up with DeJuan Blair? Is he injured?

To small for Memphis, was getting killed.

Pingu
04-29-2011, 09:35 PM
To small for Memphis, was getting killed.

Thanks. I didn't see the early games in the series. Seems like Blair is too small, Splitter too thin, and Duncan/McDyess too old.

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:07 PM
Zbo is a beast nobody can stop him.

Pingu
04-29-2011, 11:22 PM
I love Tony Allen's grit, but his basket-ball IQ isn't exactly great.

LoneGranger33
04-29-2011, 11:23 PM
I love the Spurs.

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:28 PM
Zbo is playing out of his mind wow.

LoneGranger33
04-29-2011, 11:30 PM
Is Z-Bo the best player in the NBA?

Pingu
04-29-2011, 11:33 PM
Tim Duncan can't even set a pick properly anymore...

d_c
04-29-2011, 11:36 PM
Is Z-Bo the best player in the NBA?

No, but he was the best player in this series.

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:36 PM
This team is becoming my second favorite team in the NBA, they have my guy Greivis and I love how they play.

pacerwaala
04-29-2011, 11:37 PM
san antonio blew this one. THey got the lead at 4:39 and after that they let up. Pop should have put in Gary O neal instead of Hill. They should have doubled ZBo on each and every of those posessions after getting the lead.

Pacerfan
04-29-2011, 11:37 PM
Spurs look old.....wow, didn't see this coming at the beginning of the series.

LoneGranger33
04-29-2011, 11:37 PM
If someone told me two years ago that Tony Allen and Zach Randolph would be two key figures in an 8th seed upsetting a 1st seed, I would have laughed.

Unclebuck
04-29-2011, 11:38 PM
What a thrilling game, watching Zach and the crowd is giving me chills. Wish I was there.

kester99
04-29-2011, 11:38 PM
Folks were generally disgusted when Memphis beat us towards the end of the season. This team has been hot the last few weeks. Hitting their stride at the right time.

Unclebuck
04-29-2011, 11:39 PM
Folks were generally disgusted when Memphis beat us towards the end of the season. This team has been hot the last few weeks. Hitting their stride at the right time.


They've been hot a lot longer than a few weeks. They were 35-18 since Jan. 1st. I think that was the 4th best record in the NBA during that period. Griz aren't just hot, they are really good.

They are at a huge disadvantage though having to start the next series Sunday at noon, I don't see how they could posibly be ready to play by then in OKC

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:39 PM
Tony Parker was yelling at Manu in the 1st quarter, I think they are making some changes.

d_c
04-29-2011, 11:40 PM
Spurs look old.....wow, didn't see this coming at the beginning of the series.

They ARE old. Lots of players on that roster that are not only up in age, but also have a lot of mileage on their odometers. Might be the worst #1 seed in quite awhile.

Hicks
04-29-2011, 11:40 PM
I got to watch since just before the Spurs took a late lead.

Randolph looked incredible down the stretch. Wow.

I still think we would have been begging for disappointment if we had been able to get him, but his talent is undeniable.

pacerwaala
04-29-2011, 11:40 PM
Memphis will have a tough time with OKC. Perkins and Ibaka matchup well with Randolph and Gasol. OKC has the edge in all other matchups (Westbrook, Durant).

Pacerfan
04-29-2011, 11:42 PM
They ARE old. Lots of players on that roster that are not only up in age, but also have a lot of mileage on their odometers. Might be the worst #1 seed in quite awhile.

Yea, I know they are but everyone's said that the past couple of years but they've always came thru. They just couldn't do it this time and they really look old.

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:42 PM
Game over, the Tim Duncan era is over, Job well done for this franchise.




:citizenkane:

Unclebuck
04-29-2011, 11:43 PM
great point by JVG, the regular season is about a teams basketball character, the playoffs are about a teams basketball talent.

That is really good, I'm going to steal that.

put another way, in the regular season playing hard, which all teams don't do, will get a team a lot of wins, but in the playoffs every team generally plays equally hard, so talent is more vital in the playoffs.

That is why teams can generally still win when a star player goes out in the regular season, but a team cannot lose a star player in the playoffs and expect to have anywhere near the same success

pacerwaala
04-29-2011, 11:43 PM
Spurs look old.....wow, didn't see this coming at the beginning of the series.

I think San Antonio does not matchup well with Memphis especially with Duncan not being productive.

shags
04-29-2011, 11:45 PM
They are at a huge disadvantage though having to start the next series Sunday at noon, I don't see how they could posibly be ready to play by then in OKC

One of the few times that there's a potential scheduling loss in the playoffs. That's basically a back-to-back, and maybe even more difficult.

That may shift the advantage in the series to the Thunder.

pacerwaala
04-29-2011, 11:47 PM
All the Spurs guys are class guys, Parker, Ginobli, Duncan, Mcdyss .....

croz24
04-29-2011, 11:48 PM
the importance of quality bigs...

vnzla81
04-29-2011, 11:50 PM
Is NY regreting letting Zbo go for nothing?

pacerwaala
04-30-2011, 12:06 AM
Is NY regreting letting Zbo go for nothing?

He had an atitude in NY. He did good this season which was a contract year for him. I want to see how he holds up over the length of this new 4 year 71 mill deal he signed.

Basketball Fan
04-30-2011, 01:10 AM
I think Duncan will retire after next season its the last year of his contract and I just don't see it anymore.

I also never thought Mike Conley Jr would end up having the better career than Greg Oden either.

PacersRule
04-30-2011, 02:29 AM
Memphis will have a tough time with OKC. Perkins and Ibaka matchup well with Randolph and Gasol. OKC has the edge in all other matchups (Westbrook, Durant).

I think Memphis lead season series 3-1 tho

Kstat
04-30-2011, 04:26 AM
Memphis matches up great with OKC. They have Tony Allen to guard Westbrook, and Battier and Young to team up on Durant.

Shade
04-30-2011, 08:49 AM
I think it's time to blow it up in San Antonio. They're just too old. Athletic teams like Memphis, OKC, etc. are going to be a nightmare for them.

McKeyFan
04-30-2011, 08:59 AM
Zbo is playing out of his mind wow.

The scary thing is it isn't out of his mind. It's what he does.

Justin Tyme
04-30-2011, 11:30 AM
This team is becoming my second favorite team in the NBA, they have my guy Greivis and I love how they play.


I've been keeping tabs on the Griz for 3 years now. If the Pacers moved out of town tomorrow, I'd probably adopt them as my team. I really didn't think ownership would spend the money to keep Zbo. I have felt for a while Arthur was his replacement waiting in the wings. Did anyone pickup on the comment made that when Battier was traded to Memphis that the one player who impressed him the most was Arthur? Nice young'n that Bird might want to consider when looking for a PF. He started his rookie year b4 they got Zbo.

Justin Tyme
04-30-2011, 11:35 AM
If someone told me two years ago that Tony Allen and Zach Randolph would be two key figures in an 8th seed upsetting a 1st seed, I would have laughed.


I'd love Bird to get Tony Allen. I wanted him when Boston and the Pacers were talking about a S&T for Daniels. Funny how some didn't want him b/c of his past injury!!! I probably will never forget watching him injure himself against the Pacers. That was just plain ugly.

idioteque
04-30-2011, 11:38 AM
I wanted Arthur on our team in 2008 pretty bad, glad to see that he's doing well in Memphis.

Randolph has become like a different person in Memphis, it's hard to understand and I never thought it would work out for him there. When he's on he's got a really unique set of talents and is almost impossible to defend. Even when he's playing he doesn't look like a prototypical PF but he can outwork everyone and get the job done.

I'm excited about one of Memphis/OKC being in the WCF. That should be intriguing to watch.

idioteque
04-30-2011, 11:40 AM
I'd love Bird to get Tony Allen. I wanted him when Boston and the Pacers were talking about a S&T for Daniels. Funny how some didn't want him b/c of his past injury!!! I probably will never forget watching him injure himself against the Pacers. That was just plain ugly.

He has a lot of character issues. When Boston played Chicago in the playoffs a couple of years ago they had to have extra security around the Boston bench because apparently in Chicago, his hometown, there is a price on his head that has to do with run-ins he's had with a big gang there.

He also seems borderline crazy, and I can't figure out if its the Dale Davis crazy that I like or the Ron Artest crazy that can ruin the franchise all over again. Probably too big of a risk.

He is in extraordinary shape right now though. He was a good enforcer at Boston, but never this good.

Justin Tyme
04-30-2011, 11:41 AM
That is why teams can generally still win when a star player goes out in the regular season, but a team cannot lose a star player in the playoffs and expect to have anywhere near the same success


I'd say Memphis has been an exception to the rule with losing Gay. I like Rudy Gay, and he's one player I'd trade Granger for in a heartbeat. He's a player I definately misjudged coming out of college.

Justin Tyme
04-30-2011, 11:49 AM
He has a lot of character issues. When Boston played Chicago in the playoffs a couple of years ago they had to have extra security around the Boston bench because apparently in Chicago, his hometown, there is a price on his head that has to do with run-ins he's had with a big gang there.

He also seems borderline crazy, and I can't figure out if its the Dale Davis crazy that I like or the Ron Artest crazy that can ruin the franchise all over again. Probably too big of a risk.

He is in extraordinary shape right now though. He was a good enforcer at Boston, but never this good.


Yes, I remember. Only problem of late has been punching Mayo which Mayo brought onto himself. I have no problem with that. Maybe Memphis has a calming effect on him and Zbo.

Justin Tyme
04-30-2011, 11:57 AM
Randolph has become like a different person in Memphis, it's hard to understand and I never thought it would work out for him there.


Maybe there is just something about Memphis that changes players. Hum, maybe that's where Stephenson needs to go.

Arthur and Mayo for Stephenson, 2011 Ist, Stanko/Lorbek, and cap.

Basketball Fan
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
Interesting Factoid: First time since 2003 that no series in the 1st round went to 7 games.

Kstat
04-30-2011, 01:45 PM
Interesting Factoid: First time since 2003 that no series in the 1st round went to 7 games.

Orlando/Detroit and Portland/Dallas went to 7 games in 2003.

Sollozzo
04-30-2011, 02:10 PM
What she probably meant to say is that it's the first time since the first round was expanded to 7 games in 03 that no series went 7.

I remember those two series in 03 very well. Magic had a 3-1 lead on Detroit (didn't Tmac talk some smack about being glad to finally make it out first round even though they still had 1 game to win?) and Dallas had a 3-0 lead on Portland and was close to becoming the first team to ever blow a 3-0 lead.

ballism
04-30-2011, 02:37 PM
I think it's time to blow it up in San Antonio. They're just too old. Athletic teams like Memphis, OKC, etc. are going to be a nightmare for them.

It does seem so. But if you have so much history with this squad, 3 titles (4 for TD), numerous other runs, can you blow it up from integrity/fans standpoint? I'd hate to blow it up if I had to make that decision. Maybe trade Tony Parker, maybe combine DeJuan Blair and some other young guys in a trade to get a Gerald Wallace/Iguodala type. That's about as far as I could go. Manu has to retire a Spur, same obviously with Timmy.

Kstat
04-30-2011, 02:39 PM
The Spurs need a low-post scorer. BADLY.

I'd look at dealing Parker or Manu in a heartbeat. They have a ton of perimeter players behind them.

Also, I'd look at trading Blair.

Sollozzo
04-30-2011, 02:44 PM
The Spurs need a low-post scorer. BADLY.

I'd look at dealing Parker or Manu in a heartbeat. They have a ton of perimeter players behind them.

Also, I'd look at trading Blair.



I would also look at dealing Manu as well. He still has a helluva lot a value now, but he's 34 and could go downhill at any minute. I'd capitalize on his worth right now before it's too late. I would think you could get some great young assets for him.

No kidding about a low post scorer. It's sad to see how bad Duncan's abilities have diminished. He averaged 19 points 2 years ago, 17 points last year, and now 13 this year. He is in rapid decent mode right now.

All I know is, changes have to be made. That current core they have is never making a deep postseason run again. They haven't been to the WCF's since 2008 and certainly won't be sniffing it anytime soon with that current roster.

ballism
04-30-2011, 03:34 PM
I wouldn't trade Manu simply for - how do you call it - good sportmanship reasons? It can't be all about business. That would be like Celtics trading Kevin McHale. I hate those type of moves. If you have a potential hall of famer, who helped you bring multiple titles as a leader and a class act, you let him retire with you. Even if that diminishes your chances a little bit - like it did for Bird's Celtics.
They do need to replace Richard Jefferson though - he has returned to being horrific.
It's also a shame they let Scola go - he could help so much now.

Sollozzo
04-30-2011, 03:42 PM
I wouldn't trade Manu for just anything obviously, but if you could get some really good young pieces for him then you at least have to look at it.

Kstat
04-30-2011, 03:43 PM
I wouldn't trade Manu simply for - how do you call it - good sportmanship reasons? It can't be all about business. That would be like Celtics trading Kevin McHale.

No, it would be like the Celtics trading Cerdric Maxwell.

Kstat
04-30-2011, 03:45 PM
This series is definitely going in my collection, right next to Nuggets/Sonics 94 and Warriors/Mavs 07. Not only was it a historic upset, but it was a fantastic series of games.

ballism
04-30-2011, 04:02 PM
No, it would be like the Celtics trading Cerdric Maxwell.

If this was 2004, Tim was still in his prime, and Manu suddenly became horrific - then it would be like trading Cedric Maxwell.

Granted, McHale comparison isn't perfect, but I can't think of a better one. Early 90s, McHale was clearly on his way down, Bird had bad back but was still ok-ish. McHale is a more accomplished player, but overall, that situation reminds of the Spurs a lot.

Scot Pollard
04-30-2011, 04:27 PM
I guess the Grizzlies attendance will be a hell of a lot higher now.

ballism
04-30-2011, 04:33 PM
I guess the Grizzlies attendance will be a hell of a lot higher now.

I wonder if Heisley uses the opportunity and ups the ticket prices. They've had by far the lowest ticket prices in the league the last few years - next to poor attendance.

Scot Pollard
04-30-2011, 04:40 PM
I wonder if Heisley uses the opportunity and ups the ticket prices. They've had by far the lowest ticket prices in the league the last few years - next to poor attendance.

Oh yeah I'm sure.

When you're winning like the Grizzlies have, everyone is going to want to come out and see you.

The price of Pacers tickets is average and next season, ticket sales will probably go up 2,000-3,000. I think the price of Pacers tickets is at a fair price so I don't see any kind of increase on those, but yeah the Grizzlies probably will to go with the attendance increase.