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Kstat
04-12-2011, 12:35 AM
This is the 1st round series everyone wants to see. As tough and battle tested as Boston is, New York has the two best players in this series, and they are red hot.

prediction: Celtics in 7

Sookie
04-12-2011, 12:38 AM
Celtics in 6, and I think I'm being generous.

The Knicks don't play defense. That'll get them with a team like the Celtics.

KingGeorge
04-12-2011, 12:49 AM
I don't even think this series will be close.

The Knicks don't play defense while Boston is one of the best teams in the league at playing D.

The Celtics have better players, in my opinion, along with better team chemistry.

The Knicks might win game 3 at MSG in front of a rocking crowd, but other than that it will be all Boston.

I will take Boston in 5.

15th parallel
04-12-2011, 12:51 AM
The Celtics team are the most dangerous team in the East in the playoffs. Although they have lost several games to end up at #3, I don't think NY can stand a chance. Plus the style of play of the Knicks has been proven to not work in the playoffs (it can take you far, but not far enough when the opposing team can play good defense).

It will be Celtics in 6 at worst, but I'm guessing Celtics in 5.

Pacemaker
04-12-2011, 12:59 AM
They will miss Perkins .. I can tell you that !!

Constellations
04-12-2011, 01:47 AM
SWEEP

Defense > Offense

Especially when a team doesn't play any D.

xtacy
04-12-2011, 02:28 AM
boston in 6.

Unclebuck
04-12-2011, 04:12 AM
They will miss Perkins .. I can tell you that !!

They will, but not really in this series. (although I don't know how well Perkins typically guards Amare, so I could be wrong)

Either way this will be a competitive interesting series, but the Celtics will win in 6

BRushWithDeath
04-12-2011, 06:25 AM
Celtics in 7.

BringJackBack
04-12-2011, 06:29 AM
Celtics in 5.. Knicks don't play defense and KG will shut Amare down, or at least make him shoot poorly from the field.

Major Cold
04-12-2011, 07:18 AM
Celts turn it on to beat the Knickers in 5.

Shade
04-12-2011, 07:47 AM
Before the trade deadline, I think the consensus would have been the Celtics in 4-5. Now, however, the Knicks have gotten hot, and Boston's defense (and offense, for that matter) have gone MIA.

Plus, you just know any team with Troy Murphy is destined to fail. ;)

I'm going to go with a shocker here: Knicks in 6.

Shade
04-12-2011, 07:49 AM
Btw, should Boston fall early in the playoffs this year, do you think they break up the Big 3? If so, any interest in going after Ray Allen?

Shade
04-12-2011, 07:52 AM
I don't even think this series will be close.

The Knicks don't play defense while Boston is one of the best teams in the league at playing D.

The Celtics have better players, in my opinion, along with better team chemistry.

The Knicks might win game 3 at MSG in front of a rocking crowd, but other than that it will be all Boston.

I will take Boston in 5.


The Celtics team are the most dangerous team in the East in the playoffs. Although they have lost several games to end up at #3, I don't think NY can stand a chance. Plus the style of play of the Knicks has been proven to not work in the playoffs (it can take you far, but not far enough when the opposing team can play good defense).

It will be Celtics in 6 at worst, but I'm guessing Celtics in 5.


SWEEP

Defense > Offense

Especially when a team doesn't play any D.

Boston is no longer a great defensive team. Subtracting Perkins and adding Murphy will do that to 'ya.

Unclebuck
04-12-2011, 08:46 AM
Boston is no longer a great defensive team. Subtracting Perkins and adding Murphy will do that to 'ya.

I do not know their stats since the trade.

But their defensive FG% is good enough for 3rd in the NBA behind the Bulls and Heat this season .435. last year the Celtics were 10th best at .451. The year prior they were .431, best in the NBA. Now if you go back to '08 they were by far the best at .419

So maybe they aren't a great defensive team anymore, but they are still one of the best this season, third best.

Might surprise some but the Pacers are 7th best in the NBA in this most important defensive stat at .449

JB24
04-12-2011, 09:09 AM
Knicks in 6.

mattie
04-12-2011, 10:57 AM
Knicks in 6, I've lost any and all confidence in the Celts. Without Perkins I don't consider them a legit contender for the title. I always thought their abilities were entirely chemistry based. They lost one of the pieces, so I think they're done.

Justin Tyme
04-12-2011, 11:09 AM
Celtics in 5, possibly 4. Knicks gave up too much in the trade to get Melo.

vnzla81
04-12-2011, 04:58 PM
Celtics in 4

shags
04-12-2011, 06:47 PM
The key player, IMO, is Rajon Rondo. He's been horrible since the Perkins trade. If Billups is able to outplay him, I wouldn't be shocked if the Knicks won this series.

But I can't pick them. Boston in 7, with the Knicks winning 1 of the first 2 in Boston, Boston coming back to take 1 of 2 in MSG, and the home team winning out the rest of the way.

Should be a fascinating series.

CableKC
04-12-2011, 07:41 PM
If Murphy doesn't play, the Celtics in 6....if he does...the series goes to 7 and it's a coin toss at that point.

Brad8888
04-12-2011, 09:16 PM
Celtics in 6, but the series will be very close due to the C's having traded away Perkins.

stew
04-12-2011, 11:48 PM
Do you guys think the Celtics prefer NY rather than Philly?
Which may be the reason why they rest their starters against Was.

Rivers says he wants to rest the starters, but it is too much to give up.. Considering they basically gave up the home court against Miami.

Isaac
04-14-2011, 02:47 AM
Can someone please tell me how well the Knicks play defense? Thanks.

Unclebuck
04-17-2011, 08:15 PM
The upsets continue

King Tuts Tomb
04-17-2011, 08:26 PM
Kerr made a great point: New York has three guys (Melo, Billups, Amar'e) that can create quality shots in the half court. Not many teams have that.

Dr. Hibbert
04-17-2011, 08:38 PM
JO keeping Boston in this singlehandedly. Good for him. Always thought he got a raw deal (mostly be fans) here, even if it was time to move on.

Scot Pollard
04-17-2011, 08:47 PM
Jermaine's back!

:jermaineoneal:

d_c
04-17-2011, 09:23 PM
Kerr made a great point: New York has three guys (Melo, Billups, Amar'e) that can create quality shots in the half court. Not many teams have that.


Yep. They have 3 guys who you can give the ball to in crunchtime and say "We need a basket here. Score for us. Make something happen."

They could be a dangerous playoff team because of that. They still need depth and better balance across the roster, but what they have is hard to find.

Trophy
04-17-2011, 09:30 PM
These have been exciting Game 1s so far this year.

The lower seed teams haven't been giving the higher seeds an easy ride so far.

King Tuts Tomb
04-17-2011, 09:34 PM
The Knicks have the same unique quality as Atlanta, Memphis and Denver: they can't win a title but they can ruin a title contender's season.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 09:34 PM
Another close game.

King Tuts Tomb
04-17-2011, 09:35 PM
Yikes, pretty weak offensive foul call on Melo.

Basketball Fan
04-17-2011, 09:38 PM
Knicks got screwed this is actually worse than us yesterday

Dr. Hibbert
04-17-2011, 09:39 PM
LOL Melo played like SUCH a tool down the stretch.

vnzla81
04-17-2011, 09:39 PM
What a shot by Allen :-o

DemonHunter1105
04-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Yeah, that O-foul on Melo was BS in my book. Pierce is such a dirty piece of ****.

I usually don't ever root for NY, but when they play Boston it makes it a lot easier.

daschysta
04-17-2011, 09:52 PM
i enjoyed watching Jermaine being a huge factor in boston's comeback.

Unclebuck
04-17-2011, 09:55 PM
By far the best first weekend of the NBA playoffs

daschysta
04-17-2011, 09:58 PM
By far the best first weekend of the NBA playoffs

It really has been, none of the top seeds have had it easy in their first games. I wonder if any will translate to actual upsets though. either way it's been really, really fun to watch.

Unclebuck
04-17-2011, 10:01 PM
It really has been, none of the top seeds have had it easy in their first games. I wonder if any will translate to actual upsets though. either way it's been really, really fun to watch.


Probably not, but if the games are all this good, I don't need upsets

IUfan4life
04-17-2011, 10:09 PM
Worst offensive foul cal I've ever seen

Sollozzo
04-18-2011, 05:23 PM
I love this Celtics team - I have ever since they added Garnett and Allen. I can't help it. Wins like last night are why they are so exciting to watch in the playoffs.

There has been so much hoopla about the Perk trade, but at the end of the day the Celtics will go as far as the Big 3 and Rondo can take them. Their success hinges on how well those four guys play. Role players come and go and can be replaced. Don't be surprised to see JO have some more decent moments like last night.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Perk played in *12* games for Boston this season and didn't even suit up until January. During November and December this was the best team in the league without him. Of course, Shaq played pretty well for them during that time-span and had good chemistry with those guys. I'm still crossing my fingers that he can come back this season.

New York really needed that game last night. I just don't see them beating Boston 4 times in 6 games. Not gonna happen.

ilive4sports
04-18-2011, 06:02 PM
As much as I despise Garnett and Pierce, I for one would be happy to see Jermaine win a championship. He played really well last night. Good luck JO7

vnzla81
04-19-2011, 09:26 PM
Another good game, Melo and Rondo are on fire.

Kstat
04-19-2011, 09:36 PM
I'm not sure what was more shameless on tat last posession, they fact the legendary Boston defense was resigned to doubling Carmelo even without the ball, or the fact it took the rest of the knicks three point-blank shots to convert playing 4-on-3.

Trophy
04-19-2011, 09:41 PM
Another meltdown for the Knicks.

righteouscool
04-19-2011, 09:44 PM
Why wouldn't you foul immediately in the backcourt? The Knicks are just a dumb team and the Celtics play smart.

Stryder
04-19-2011, 09:45 PM
Knicks = teh dumb

rexnom
04-19-2011, 09:54 PM
I'm not sure what was more shameless on tat last posession, they fact the legendary Boston defense was resigned to doubling Carmelo even without the ball, or the fact it took the rest of the knicks three point-blank shots to convert playing 4-on-3.
Doesn't the latter partly explain the former? Would the Celtics have double-teamed with Billups and Amare healthy?

Basketball Fan
04-19-2011, 09:57 PM
Hopefully the Knicks even up the series yeah its sacrilege to say it but I think they have a better shot of taking out the Heat than the Celtics do.

pacer4ever
04-19-2011, 10:07 PM
Hopefully the Knicks even up the series yeah its sacrilege to say it but I think they have a better shot of taking out the Heat than the Celtics do.

lol. So you think a poor mans Heat (NYK) has a better chance to beat the real Heat then Boston ? thats funny

Basketball Fan
04-19-2011, 10:16 PM
lol. So you think a poor mans Heat (NYK) has a better chance to beat the real Heat then Boston ? thats funny

They matchup better yes

Sure the Celtics have more experience but they traded away Perkins and they're barely beating the Knicks who are beating themselves at this point.

I personally don't see JO getting the best of Chris Bosh(I'm as shocked as you are to say such a thing)

And Shaq is out indefinately and given how out of shape and old he is that's not good for the Celtics.

pacer4ever
04-19-2011, 10:18 PM
They matchup better yes

Sure the Celtics have more experience but they traded away Perkins and they're barely beating the Knicks who are beating themselves at this point.

I personally don't see JO getting the best of Chris Bosh(I'm as shocked as you are to say such a thing)

And Shaq is out indefinately and given how out of shape and old he is that's not good for the Celtics.

how do they match up better they are basicly bulit the same way but miami has the better players by far.

Basketball Fan
04-19-2011, 10:21 PM
how do they match up better they are basicly bulit the same way but miami has the better players by far.



That's why I think it would definately be a wildcard. Melo tends to get the best of LeBron as well of course they've never met in the postseason but I just don't trust the Celtics to get it done. Which is strange because they have done it before I just think in the Miami series the loss of Perkins will be felt.

Sollozzo
04-20-2011, 10:20 AM
Two absolutely brutal losses for the Knicks. Knicks fans are probably feeling a lot like us. They could have won either game against a better opponent on the road but instead lost both. It makes you sick to your stomach as a fan to know you could have won either game but instead are down 0-2. So I can certainly sympathize with what Knicks fans are feeling now.

If the Knicks could have won either of those games in Boston then I think they would have had somewhat of a chance to win the series, depending on the health of Billups and Amare of course. But now that they're down 0-2, I just don't think there's anyway they beat this Celtics team 4 out of 5 times. Not gonna happen.

Knicks will be a dangerous team next year. They will be a top 4 team in the East along with Boston, Chicago, and Miami. I think they will definitely be better than Orlando and Atlanta. Orlando peaked a couple years ago.

Trader Joe
04-20-2011, 10:23 AM
I don't think Boston will be a top 4 team in the East next year.

Sollozzo
04-20-2011, 10:27 AM
They will be unless one of the big three has a significant drop off, which is definitely possible given their age. But if those three are healthy like this year then they are still easily a top 4 team.

BringJackBack
04-22-2011, 08:56 PM
I feel like we are better than the Knicks now. They have talent but they have no leadership and they do not play hard.

Unclebuck
04-22-2011, 09:00 PM
Knicks look like they have quit.

Whether the pacers win or lose game #4 I'll be extremely upset if the pacers give in like the Knicks have tonight.

Cactus Jax
04-22-2011, 09:32 PM
A Troy Murphy sighting!

vnzla81
04-22-2011, 09:34 PM
And to think that Troy Murphy was our starting power forward for few years :puke:

Trophy
04-22-2011, 09:36 PM
Is this the same Troy Murphy averaged a double-double every game and 45% for 3 in a season as a Pacer?

He doesn't fit in at all with the Celtics or any team that doesn't have a 3 point crazy head coach.

shags
04-22-2011, 09:59 PM
Rondo's back. If he keeps up this level of play, the Celtics are the favorites to win the title.

ilive4sports
04-22-2011, 11:08 PM
Rondo's back. If he keeps up this level of play, the Celtics are the favorites to win the title.

If PP and Ray Allen keep playing like they did tonight then yes, but I don't think that will happen against Miami in the next round.

vnzla81
04-22-2011, 11:12 PM
If PP and Ray Allen keep playing like they did tonight then yes, but I don't think that will happen against Miami in the next round.

Shaq would be ready for the next round, I think they have close to two weeks if they win next game right?

pwee31
04-22-2011, 11:54 PM
It'll be interesting to see what happens with Murphy.

I don't think he's going to be comfy riding the bench on a contender. Not sure he wants to only be a role player on an up and coming team, and not sure there's a bad team that will want him as a starter?

Kstat
04-23-2011, 12:03 AM
Shaq would be ready for the next round, I think they have close to two weeks if they win next game right?

They'd have 6-7 days.

Scot Pollard
04-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Is Troy Murphy a joke or what?

ilive4sports
04-23-2011, 06:01 AM
Shaq would be ready for the next round, I think they have close to two weeks if they win next game right?

Miami won't worry about Shaq. While he can be effective, he won't be able to play much.

hoosierguy
04-24-2011, 04:07 PM
The Knicks are still a joke. They gave away their future for Anthony who has never shown to be a clutch postseason performer.

They have turned in the worst first round performance of any team in the East.

Jared Sullinger
04-24-2011, 04:26 PM
I not only hope the Knicks are swept, I hope they're the only team that does just to rub it in a teensy weensy bit more.

15th parallel
04-24-2011, 04:37 PM
This was supposed to be one of the more interesting matchups in the playoffs.

But this is turning to be the most disappointing one. Although I expected the Celtics to sweep the Knicks (it's not over yet but the Knicks' play today is disheartening), I didn't expect this to look this bad.

idioteque
04-24-2011, 05:04 PM
Man, the Knicks right now just define suck. There's no if and or buts about it. They're like the anti-team. I feel like any other team in the playoffs, including Philadelphia or us, would dismantle them in a 7 game series.

Unclebuck
04-24-2011, 05:40 PM
I want the Celtics to win today because I want the pacers game @ 8 and not 9:30

idioteque
04-24-2011, 05:42 PM
I want the Celtics to win today because I want the pacers game @ 8 and not 9:30

Thank for just giving me a reason to care about this game.

pwee31
04-24-2011, 05:47 PM
I want the Celtics to win today because I want the pacers game @ 8 and not 9:30

I agree, plus I think the 8PM slot would put us back on TNT. I also would enjoy the Knicks being the 1st team eliminated from the playoffs, which I'm extremely happy we avoided yesterday

Unclebuck
04-24-2011, 05:49 PM
I agree, plus I think the 8PM slot would put us back on TNT. I also would enjoy the Knicks being the 1st team eliminated from the playoffs, which I'm extremely happy we avoided yesterday


yes it would. othewise we'll be on NBATV

vnzla81
04-24-2011, 05:53 PM
Come on Boston you can do it.

pwee31
04-24-2011, 05:54 PM
Boston losing their grip a bit.

Nothing against NBATV, and I would like to hear Denari with Quinn or Clark and Miss Paetz, but I'm a sucker for the national television coverage we've been missing out on in recent years.

Pingu
04-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Jeff Green is awful. Perkins >> Green.

Heisenberg
04-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Anthony Carter goin all Anthony Johnson on Boston

Pingu
04-24-2011, 06:09 PM
The Knicks are pathetic.

Heisenberg
04-24-2011, 06:14 PM
Good riddance Knicks

vnzla81
04-24-2011, 06:15 PM
Yep Boston got this, game over.

Jared Sullinger
04-24-2011, 06:33 PM
The Knicks are still a joke. They gave away their future for Anthony who has never shown to be a clutch postseason performer.

They have turned in the worst first round performance of any team in the East.

That "future" New York gave away is about to be swept, too.

Justin Tyme
04-24-2011, 07:16 PM
Look what ALL what Dolan's interference got him... NOTHING. :) A team with 2 Allstar players without a supporting cast. 1 and done being swept. It couldn't have happened to a better person. Just shows Daddy's money can't buy everything, not even a 1st round game win. LOVE IT!!

pwee31
04-24-2011, 07:23 PM
Knicks still aren't in bad shape. They have 2 stars, and an aging Billups. All they need to do is find a way to get a supporting cast around them, and hope guys like Fields and Douglas continue to improve.

You would prefer having the stars and searching for the supporting cast, whether than vice versa.

I do think the Nuggets are in better shape, as they have a lot of assets they can sure to continue to build that team

Shade
04-24-2011, 07:44 PM
That didn't go at all how I expected.

What that said... :knicks::haha:

vnzla81
04-24-2011, 07:57 PM
Celtics in 4

:cool:

IUfan4life
04-24-2011, 08:14 PM
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/04/dantoni-on-rondo-id-like-to-see-him-play-on-minnesota/

D'antoni said he would like to see Rondo play in Minnesota.

and right on cue one of the comments says "Well he is a PG, so it is a possibility"

ilive4sports
04-24-2011, 08:22 PM
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/04/dantoni-on-rondo-id-like-to-see-him-play-on-minnesota/

D'antoni said he would like to see Rondo play in Minnesota.

and right on cue one of the comments says "Well he is a PG, so it is a possibility"

While Rondo does benefit from playing in Boston, he has developed into a damn good point guard.

Basketball Fan
04-24-2011, 08:36 PM
The Knicks are the lesser of two evils but they were deflated when they blew those two games in Boston.

Ugh Boston

At least nobody on the Knicks throws gum at our fans.

CableKC
04-25-2011, 12:51 PM
My guess is that the Knicks won't pick up Billups contract and go into the offseason with a $41 mil salary Cap and rebuild from there.

I've said it before...but I'd make a run at Ronny Turiaf as a backup Center to replace Foster as the backup Center while offering to take back his contract without sending anything back.

Turiaf's not great...but he has heart, he's a GREAT Locker room and Local Community guy that can easily come in and play 20+ minutes a game while providing some solid rebounding/shotblocking/toughness to the frontcourt that will be 28 years old by the start of the 2011-2012 seasoni....EXACTLY the type of guy that Bird LOVES to have on his Team....a blue-collar lunch pale type of guy that works hard and causes no problems.

Sollozzo
04-25-2011, 01:00 PM
You just can't bet against the Big 3 and Rondo come playoff time. The Perk trade was questionable, but at the end of the day the team is only going as far as those four can take them.