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Jared Sullinger
04-08-2011, 01:22 AM
Allen Iverson to police: 'Do you know who I am?' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/07/georgia.iverson.police/index.html?hpt=T2)


Atlanta (CNN) -- Former NBA star Allen Iverson launched an expletive-ridden tirade against police when a car belonging to him was pulled over for a traffic violation last week, at one point telling the officer, "Take the vehicle, I have 10 more," according to a police report.

Iverson, 35, was a passenger in a grey Lamborghini, spied by an Atlanta officer changing lanes without signaling about 6 p.m. on March 30, according to the police report obtained by CNN.

The driver, identified in the report as Antwuan Clisby, couldn't produce any documentation for the vehicle, the report said. He then told the officer his passenger needed to leave the vehicle to eat dinner, and the officer said no one was leaving until the investigation was complete.

With that, Iverson became "irate," according to the police report, saying, "I'm the (expletive) passenger." The officer radioed for backup, and a second unit arrived, according to the report. Clisby and Iverson were asked to exit the vehicle, while Iverson continued to curse at the officer, the report said.

When police scanned the identification number of the vehicle, which belongs to Iverson, it was found to have tags that expired in 2009. Iverson, former MVP for the Philadelphia 76ers, was told his car would be towed.

"Take the vehicle, I have 10 more," Iverson said, according to the report. "Police don't have anything else (expletive) to do except (expletive) with me." He then asked, "Do you know who I am?"

The officer wrote in his report that "For the next 20 minutes, Mr. Iverson went on and on about who he was. I stated to Mr. Iverson, 'It really doesn't matter who you are. You tried to conceal your vehicle with a fake drive-out tag due to you not paying for your tags.' "

Iverson then said, "I make more money than you will in 10 years," according to the report.

Clisby, the driver, asked the officers, "Would you want to pay $10,000 for a tag?" the report said.

The car was towed, and Iverson later "came back and apologized for disrespecting the police," according to the police report. "He stated he was just upset about his car."

Clisby was cited for failure to signal while changing lanes and the expired tag, the report said.

Bball
04-08-2011, 03:55 AM
Is it common practice to put all of that detail into a report when nobody is arrested and it would appear the majority of the detail is about someone who didn't even get a ticket?

Is it a common practice to even have a police report in this circumstance?

Oh well... It's Allen Iverson so it's hard to care too much...

King Tuts Tomb
04-08-2011, 04:22 AM
Is it common practice to put all of that detail into a report when nobody is arrested and it would appear the majority of the detail is about someone who didn't even get a ticket?


I used to work at a Kinkos-type place that had a fax machine where people could pay us to fax stuff for them. Usually it was pretty boring but one time a guy came in and had me fax some stuff to his lawyer. As the papers were going through the fax machine I read through them and they were from a police report, written in extreme detail, about the guy and his friends getting pulled over for a DUI. It was written really dry like a police report but you could tell the cop loved writing it.

"Driver was visibly upset and began crying when asked to step out of the vehicle. Passengers also began crying after exiting vehicle. Officers tried to question driver and passengers but were unable to due to crying."

It was almost impossible for me to keep a straight face when I gave the guy back his papers.

redfoster
04-08-2011, 09:24 AM
Got pulled over for changing lanes without signaling? They were ****ing with him.

Trader Joe
04-08-2011, 09:28 AM
Yea, if police pulled over every person on the highway who was changing lanes without signaling, no one would ever get anywhere.

Lou Bega
04-08-2011, 09:48 AM
I would like to see a photo of Antuan Clisby.

Anthem
04-08-2011, 10:53 AM
DWB?

timid
04-08-2011, 10:57 AM
I hate to say it..I know he was pulled over for a legit reason but I still love it...I can't stand the police, more often times than not, they ARE crooked but if you've never dabbled on that side of life, you might not know it.....I hate the fact that everything we do has to be tagged or have a "number" and they can take our property from us..I've always hated that side of government so to hear him say, "tow it, I got 10 more", makes me lol, because where I live, the police constantly taught u, assuming that you can't afford anything and don't know anything....

BillS
04-08-2011, 11:03 AM
I-75/I-85 is a major drug running corridor. Lamborghini with dealer temporary plate (meaning it is unidentifiable) ... you dam betcha they'll find a reason to pull it over to check it out.

Day-V
04-08-2011, 11:12 AM
'Do you know who I am?'

The Juggernaut, *****?

able
04-08-2011, 11:17 AM
I-75/I-85 is a major drug running corridor. Lamborghini with dealer temporary plate (meaning it is unidentifiable) ... you dam betcha they'll find a reason to pull it over to check it out.

If that is a base reason, then it's even more silly

I you were running drugs you'd probably use a 2 year old prius in prime condition, with some kids on the backseat.

You dont normally carry kilo's of illegal substance in a Lambo with temp plates.


My guess is they just wanted to "teach the lambo-biatch a lesson.

As was posted previously; you can stop 95% of the cars on motorways worldwide

Bball
04-08-2011, 11:19 AM
I used to work at a Kinkos-type place that had a fax machine where people could pay us to fax stuff for them. Usually it was pretty boring but one time a guy came in and had me fax some stuff to his lawyer. As the papers were going through the fax machine I read through them and they were from a police report, written in extreme detail, about the guy and his friends getting pulled over for a DUI. It was written really dry like a police report but you could tell the cop loved writing it.

"Driver was visibly upset and began crying when asked to step out of the vehicle. Passengers also began crying after exiting vehicle. Officers tried to question driver and passengers but were unable to due to crying."

It was almost impossible for me to keep a straight face when I gave the guy back his papers.

But in that case there was an actual arrest and things like the crying would actually be argued to show intoxication.

This was just a ticket... and according to the article the ticket was written to the driver (which wasn't Iverson). So why the lengthy report detailing Iverson's actions? And again, according to the article Iverson ultimately apologized to the officers which in the end made this a giant non-story.

BillS
04-08-2011, 11:37 AM
I you were running drugs you'd probably use a 2 year old prius in prime condition, with some kids on the backseat.

You dont normally carry kilo's of illegal substance in a Lambo with temp plates.


You'd be surprised how many of the ... shall we say "non professionals" ... get a case of Teh Stupids when they get their first taste of big money.

There have been a number of fancy car big score busts in the Atlanta area over the years.

That said, though, busting the chops of the Lambo Beyatch is not beyond the Atlanta Popo...

able
04-08-2011, 12:18 PM
btw Bill, when you lived in Atl, you ever ran into Mike Storen or met up in another way ??

90'sNBARocked
04-08-2011, 12:33 PM
DWB?

I dont think so

Atlanta is predominatly black and they have black universities there and plenty of well to do black families

I guess its always a possibility, but on this one I say no

Shade
04-08-2011, 01:00 PM
We all know who you are, Allen. We just don't care.

BillS
04-08-2011, 01:04 PM
I dont think so

Atlanta is predominatly black and they have black universities there and plenty of well to do black families

I guess its always a possibility, but on this one I say no

They still have a lot of DWB depending on where you are. It's more integrated than Indy but there are still enclaves, if you will.

90'sNBARocked
04-08-2011, 02:09 PM
They still have a lot of DWB depending on where you are. It's more integrated than Indy but there are still enclaves, if you will.

true but my point was in Atlanta it is not uncommon to see a black man driving a jag, because he owns his own business, not becuase he is a dope dealer or whatever

Since86
04-08-2011, 02:21 PM
What a sad thread.

Trader Joe
04-08-2011, 02:57 PM
true but my point was in Atlanta it is not uncommon to see a black man driving a jag, because he owns his own business, not becuase he is a dope dealer or whatever

Wait...what?

90'sNBARocked
04-08-2011, 06:24 PM
Wait...what?

let me clarify

In Atlanta , unlike Detroit for example you have a large number of african american men who are succesfull legitmately,(in fact Atlanta has the largest number of African American businesses in the US) so it is not uncommon to see a young black man driving a nice car

GrangerRanger
04-08-2011, 07:12 PM
Huh? It seems like you're saying that black men legitimately earn stuff there like it's an oddity. Wow.

It's pretty clear that Allen was the brunt of racial profiling here. I don't care if his actions seemed childish, but I would be pissed too if I had the same thing happen to me.

I know who you are Allen. A citizen of the United States. Not a black one. Not a rich one. When it boils down to it, he's a simple citizen that was most likely on the receiving end of racial profiling.

Don't believe that happens? A cousin of mine was a police man and avid racist, who used to tell me stories of how he witnessed and even took part in such activities. Pulling over a white dude in a Rio for not signaling with a button up shirt is seen as something not being worth their time. Chances of actually finding anything wrong is low ( at least in their eyes). Successful black dude in a brand new car? Oh no, he HAS to be doing something wrong.

Bah.. sorry for ranting.

90'sNBARocked
04-08-2011, 07:23 PM
Dont know why its so hard to understand

In a city like Atlanta, where you have a number of historically black colleges, and as I said the largest number of African American owned businesses, the police know it is fairly common to see a young black man in a nice car , so the initial sterotype is not as strong as for example, a city like Detroit , with a high unemployment rate, little opportunity so when the police see a young man in a nice car their more likely to believe it might be through illegal means

PacerDude
04-08-2011, 07:29 PM
If Iverson had the initiative to properly register his car or the common sense not to go out in it with tags that expired 2 years ago, this would have never happened.

Seems pretty simple to me.

90'sNBARocked
04-08-2011, 07:40 PM
Iverson came back and apologized (to the Police, not the media) for his actions

he is too old for those type of reactions and he knew it

xBulletproof
04-08-2011, 07:42 PM
Too bad the cop didn't reply ...

"Yes, I know you. You're that selfish moron that doesn't like practice".

BlueNGold
04-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Dont know why its so hard to understand

In a city like Atlanta, where you have a number of historically black colleges, and as I said the largest number of African American owned businesses, the police know it is fairly common to see a young black man in a nice car , so the initial sterotype is not as strong as for example, a city like Detroit , with a high unemployment rate, little opportunity so when the police see a young man in a nice car their more likely to believe it might be through illegal means

I'm surprised this thread's not been locked.

Yes I agree. Also, if you see a white guy (or anyone for that matter) driving a lambo in the hood or maybe a Lincoln Navigator with mags...do you think they're a business owner or a "business" owner? But if you see the same person driving it in Beverly Hills what do you think?

As for Iverson, I hope his story ends well. I recall when he became less of an idiot...and now it appears he's reverting. Let's hope he doesn't turn out like Fatoine.

speakout4
04-08-2011, 09:09 PM
No mention whether the failure to signal would in any way result in a possible accident or was reckless. How many other non-signaler s were stopped that day by the police or by this particular cop?

BlueNGold
04-08-2011, 09:18 PM
No mention whether the failure to signal would in any way result in a possible accident or was reckless. How many other non-signaler s were stopped that day by the police or by this particular cop?

I suspect if the vehicle was a grey Honda, dude could have been driving 80 and weaving. The issue here is a Lambo and we don't know if the windows were tinted which would basically rule out racial profiling. So, assuming this was profiling is also a stereotype.

Honestly, I don't think cops believe drug dealers drive that type of vehicle. It's more likely they think it's one of the Hawks or Falcon players...or maybe an entertainer. Fair or not, the fact they didn't signal with their Lambo was probably viewed by the 25K/ year cop as an arrogant move by a wealthy athlete or entertainer...and he or she decided to show who was boss. Of course, I am making lots of assumptions here as well...just as everyone in this thread is doing...

Bball
04-08-2011, 09:31 PM
Iverson explains the situation-


“If a cop tells you that I didn't signal, then that’s that. I may have not signaled once this year but if somebody says he didn't signal then during all the lane changes this year, then that’s enough to get a whole lot started. I told Popo that you don’t have to give the people of Atlanta a reason to think about ticketing me or anything like that. If you ticket somebody, you ticket them to make the roads better…simple as that. I’m cool with that. I’m all about that.

The people in Atlanta deserve to have safe roads. It’s simple as that. It goes further than that … If I can’t signal, I can’t signal. It is as simple as that. It ain’t about that at all. It’s easy to sum it up if you’re just talking about signaling. We’re sitting here, and I’m supposed to be the former franchise player, and we’re talking about signalling. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about signals, not a wreck, not a wreck, not a wreck, but we’re talking about signaling. Not the ride that I go out there and die for and drive every day like it’s my last but we’re talking about signaling man. How silly is that?

… Now I know that I’m supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about signaling. We’re talking about turn signals man. We’re talking about signals. We’re talking about signals. We’re not talking about the road. We’re talking about signaling. When you came to the arena, and you saw me play, you’ve seen me play right, you’ve seen me give everything I’ve got, but we’re talking about signals right now.

… Hey I hear you, it’s funny to me too, hey it’s strange to me too but we’re talking about signals man, we’re not even talking about a wreck, when it actually matters, we’re talking about signaling … How the hell can I make the road better by signaling?”

speakout4
04-08-2011, 09:55 PM
Racial profiling or just an arrogant entertainer? Cops deciding that people in fancy cars have to be more careful than you and me does not give me comfort.

Hoop
04-08-2011, 10:19 PM
I-75/I-85 is a major drug running corridor. Lamborghini with dealer temporary plate (meaning it is unidentifiable) ... you dam betcha they'll find a reason to pull it over to check it out.
Yeh, because drug dealers regularly move merchandise in freaking Lamborghini's. That's always a good way to avoid attention. :laugh:

dal9
04-08-2011, 11:11 PM
Racial profiling or just an arrogant entertainer? Cops deciding that people in fancy cars have to be more careful than you and me does not give me comfort.

no me either, but i see it...i usually drive a mid 90s corolla that i have never gotten pulled over in, over like 10 years...but it seems like every time i drive something better (rental, friends car, whatever) or even just more conspicuous, i get pulled over for some bullsh*t--like last time it was crossing over the line marking off the shoulder, in the right lane on the highway?!

BlueNGold
04-08-2011, 11:22 PM
Racial profiling or just an arrogant entertainer? Cops deciding that people in fancy cars have to be more careful than you and me does not give me comfort.

Good luck finding perfect people to risk their lives on a daily basis for 25K/yr.

Yes, you will get some cowboys who love the firearms, cars, badges, uniforms and the mandate to intimidate....but for the most part they are just good old boys from their home towns...regardless of race. If people stopped committing crimes we wouldn't need them.

BTW, many years ago my best friend was busted for DUI while parked in his own driveway. He was pulled out of his car and roughed up. Fact is, he should have got out of the car and into the house. Stinks, but that's life baby. You have to take the good with the bad because nobody is perfect, not even you.

Shade
04-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Can there ever be a discussion involving a minority where someone doesn't play the race card?

I've been pulled over (and ticketed) for switching lanes without signaling and, last I checked, I'm white. It happens. It was probably more a case of the cop being a dick than it was racial profiling. Or of, God forbid, Iverson actually driving like an idiot. He already has a negative reputation for a reason.

I don't deny that racial undertones still exist, but the frequency with which the race card is played is absurd.

kellogg
04-09-2011, 11:01 AM
Huh? It seems like you're saying that black men legitimately earn stuff there like it's an oddity. Wow.

It's pretty clear that Allen was the brunt of racial profiling here. I don't care if his actions seemed childish, but I would be pissed too if I had the same thing happen to me.

I know who you are Allen. A citizen of the United States. Not a black one. Not a rich one. When it boils down to it, he's a simple citizen that was most likely on the receiving end of racial profiling.

Don't believe that happens? A cousin of mine was a police man and avid racist, who used to tell me stories of how he witnessed and even took part in such activities. Pulling over a white dude in a Rio for not signaling with a button up shirt is seen as something not being worth their time. Chances of actually finding anything wrong is low ( at least in their eyes). Successful black dude in a brand new car? Oh no, he HAS to be doing something wrong.

Bah.. sorry for ranting.

Funny how profiling is ok for a traffic violation, but not ok for identifying terrorists...it's why the TSA Nazis at the airport are allowed to put their grubby fat hands on me and put me thru their intrusive body scanner.

mattie
04-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Funny how profiling is ok for a traffic violation, but not ok for identifying terrorists...it's why the TSA Nazis at the airport are allowed to put their grubby fat hands on me and put me thru their intrusive body scanner.

I hate flying, and I hate the TSA more than corrpupt blatantly racist carmel cops. Ok that last part is not true. I hate the TSA more than cops, but not Carmel cops. That's a gross exaggeration.

kellogg
04-09-2011, 11:08 AM
Just to get this thread back onto basketball, sort of...guess the gig in Turkey or China or wherever AI was playing didn't work out? Is he retired now? Not that I care, since I never gave AI a thought until this.

Basketball Fan
04-09-2011, 12:41 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/iversons-friend-atlanta-cops-904074.html


Iverson's friend: Atlanta cops made up their Lamborghini reportShareThisPrint E-mail .By Ty Tagami


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Antwuan Clisby told the AJC Friday that, contrary to the official police report, Iverson didn't swear at a cop or ask her a boastful question about his fame.

"It's not right how they're trying to portray this whole thing," Clisby said.

Clisby is one of several people who've come forward to dispute the details of the police report.

Clisby, 35, was cited for failure to signal and for driving a car with expired tags after an officer pulled him over in Iverson's gray 2007 Lamborghini Murcielago. Clisby, a friend of Iverson's from Virginia, was handcuffed after he grew "angry" during the March 30 encounter, according to a police officer's report of the incident.

Officer S. J. Durham called for backup and, according to Clisby, five squad cars and eight more cops came to the scene, in the parking lot of the Ruth's Chris Steak House and Embassy Suites Hotel on Peachtree Road in Buckhead.

The car had a dealer tag, and after running the vehicle identification number through a computer, Durham realized the tag had been expired for two years, she wrote in her report.

When a tow truck was called, Iverson became upset.

"Take the vehicle, I have 10 more," he told Durham, according to her report. "Police don't have anything else [expletive] to do except [expletive] with me. ... Do you know who I am?"

For the next 20 minutes, according to the officer's report, Iverson "went on and on" about who he was.

But Clisby told the AJC that neither he nor Iverson behaved as the officer reported.

"I'm not going to be rude when I get pulled over, because I'm not trying to get a ticket," Clisby explained. He said Iverson did not swear and did not boast about his fame.

"‘Do you know who I am?' Who would say that? Only an [expletive] would say that," Clisby said.

Clisby said he did ask the officer early in the encounter if Iverson, the passenger, could get out of the car and go to Ruth's Chris, where he had a take-out order waiting. Clisby said he made the request to shield his friend from the publicity. A crowd was gathering around the Lamborghini and people were taking pictures, he said.

The request was denied. Instead, Iverson and Clisby were ordered from the car and searched. Clisby said an officer asked where they were keeping the drugs and guns.

Ernest West, a courtesy van driver for the Embassy Suites, was parked next to the Lamborghini and witnessed the incident. He said Iverson has been a regular at the hotel and restaurant, so he recognized him immediately.

"He didn't curse at all," West told the AJC. "I mean, he was upset by the situation. But he didn't curse."

When asked about this, an Atlanta Police Department spokeswoman said Clisby called Thursday, claiming Durham fabricated her report.

"We told him that he will have his day in court, and if there is something in that report that he feels is not true, he could testify and she would testify," Officer Kim Maggart told the AJC Friday.

Maggart said Clisby didn't appear to appreciate the response, and started cursing at her and the other two police employees -- one a sworn officer -- who were participating on speakerphone. She wouldn't repeat what he said, but said he used words like those attributed to Iverson by Officer Durham in her report: "Everything she stated he said in the police report is pretty much everything he [Clisby] said to us last night."

Clisby also denies that the tags were expired. He said Iverson bought the car in Georgia two years ago and left it undriven at his home in Philadelphia, and recently had it shipped back to his home in Atlanta after asking the same dealer to give him new drive-out tags while he got permanent tags. The drive-out tags expired in early April, he said, days after the car was impounded.

Another witness offers some corroboration of that claim. Andrea Dzeda wasn't there the night of the traffic stop, but 10 days earlier she and her husband, both visiting from their home in Austin, met Iverson and his friends at the bar of the Embassy Suites. They hung out together, and Iverson and his friends were polite, even calling her ma'am, she told the AJC.

On their way out of the hotel, Dzeda snapped photos of Iverson's gray Lamborghini with her cellphone. She provided a copy of one of the photos. It shows a car with dealer drive-out tag that was dated April 3, 2011 -- four days after Clisby was given the expired tag citation.

The AJC had no way of verifying the authenticity of the photo.

The public likely will not see a resolution about the accuracy of the police report or the underlying traffic violation though. Clisby said he won't be fighting any of this in court. It'll be less expensive to just pay the fine, he said.

speakout4
04-09-2011, 02:28 PM
Good luck finding perfect people to risk their lives on a daily basis for 25K/yr.
.
I guess I'm missing the low pay, nobody is perfect, and discriminatory behavior as justification. Would you justify this behavior for 50K/yr. 75K/yr.?

nyballer31
04-09-2011, 07:30 PM
Huh? It seems like you're saying that black men legitimately earn stuff there like it's an oddity. Wow.

It's pretty clear that Allen was the brunt of racial profiling here. I don't care if his actions seemed childish, but I would be pissed too if I had the same thing happen to me.

I know who you are Allen. A citizen of the United States. Not a black one. Not a rich one. When it boils down to it, he's a simple citizen that was most likely on the receiving end of racial profiling.

Don't believe that happens? A cousin of mine was a police man and avid racist, who used to tell me stories of how he witnessed and even took part in such activities. Pulling over a white dude in a Rio for not signaling with a button up shirt is seen as something not being worth their time. Chances of actually finding anything wrong is low ( at least in their eyes). Successful black dude in a brand new car? Oh no, he HAS to be doing something wrong.

Bah.. sorry for ranting.

So now the police are guilty of car profiling?Blacks can't be the only ones who drive nice cars now are they.Iversons car was pulled over because the driver failed to signal just like if you were driving a 2000 nissan maxima and a cop is behind you and you forgot to signal guess what your probably going to get pulled over and if you start the converstation with sucking your teeth at the police officer and saying "Do you know who I am" I don't think cop is going to give you the courtesy to get out of a ticket.Doesn't matter what car your driving, or what color your skin is.

In Iversons case he could have just said "yeah its my car I let my tags expire I didn't feel like paying the fee" instead of giving the officer more work to do and having him conduct an investigation on who the true owner of the car is. Maybe the car wouldn't have been towed and just a ticket would have been issued.Being polite when you get stopped goes along way to getting yourself out of a jam but if you start up combative right away that never ends up well.

Shade
04-09-2011, 07:50 PM
"‘Do you know who I am?' Who would say that? Only an [expletive] would say that," Clisby said.

:laugh:

Anthem
04-09-2011, 11:31 PM
So... Police fabricated reports? Nice.

ksuttonjr76
04-10-2011, 01:42 AM
So... Police fabricated reports? Nice.

Note to self...don't live in ATL.

Stryder
04-10-2011, 12:00 PM
Unless it is way out of line, one should probably comply with an LEO's orders...just sayin'...it makes for an easier night with less hassles.