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Hicks
02-06-2004, 11:46 PM
Carter = 0wn3d. :laugh:

I need to go back over the box scores this season and see how many times Ron's not only held his man under their season average, but scored a lot of points in his own right.

Unclebuck
02-07-2004, 12:12 AM
What I liked tonight is Ron did not shoot any threes, he went to the basket and he shooting from midrange. For that matter the Pacers as a team shoot a lot fewer threes, now some of that has to do with the defense, the Raptors defensive style is just like the Pacers.

But Ron was the best player on the court tonight without question.

If someone did not who was who tonight, they would have guessed that Ron is the "superstar", Vince is a very good offensive player and Rose is a guy who can hit a few shots. And if you would tell someone who only watched tonight that Rose was traded for Artest, they would say what a terrible trade.

I would love to see the stats this season, I know the Pacers coaches have this stat, who is a better go to guy J.O or Artest. That does not mean J.O or Artest has to score, but throughout the game most of the plays are run for them. My guess is the pacers score more often when they go to Ronnie throughout the game and at crunch time. I would love to know the %'s

tdeltdot
02-07-2004, 12:15 AM
Carter = 0wn3d. :laugh:

I need to go back over the box scores this season and see how many times Ron's not only held his man under their season average, but scored a lot of points in his own right.

...just got back from the game. It was my first time seeing the Pacers play in person.

I didn't think that Ronnie played VC all that well tonight. Believe me, I'm a :devil: Vince-HATER :devil: but I thought he played alright tonight. I had a $20 bet with a friend that Ronnie would hold Vince under 11 points or under 22% shooting and a $10 bet (with 10-1 odds in my favour) that Ronnie would make Vince cry. Ronnie failed me on all three fronts. Vince even managed to keep his stellar FG% of .411 intact. I was very disappointed.

I thought that of the three All-stars on the court J.O. had the worst game. How he ended up with 14 boards I don't know. I would have figured he pulled down 4-5 tops. Thoughout the first half he was just sulking around giving up tons of o. rebounds.

To only win by 7 pts. against a team who is starting Robert Archibald, I thought was pretty weak. If the Raptors had had Chris Bosh tonight the Pacers would have lost the game, no question. That kid grabs a ton of o. rebounds and with our weak performance on the boards he would have killed us.

lastly,
Man, if Tinsley could nail some of those threes :mad: ... I know he went 3-8, but all 8 of those attempts were with WIDE open looks - and he passed up another 4 or 5 open shots as well.

Tyler, in Toronto

Unclebuck
02-07-2004, 12:19 AM
I thought Ronnie's defense was very good, but I 've seen him play better defense that is for sure. But his offensive game tonight was about as good as I have seen from him.

Cactus Jax
02-07-2004, 12:21 AM
Carter = 0wn3d. :laugh:

I need to go back over the box scores this season and see how many times Ron's not only held his man under their season average, but scored a lot of points in his own right.

...just got back from the game. It was my first time seeing the Pacers play in person.

I didn't think that Ronnie played VC all that well tonight. Believe me, I'm a :devil: Vince-HATER :devil: but I thought he played alright tonight. I had a $20 bet with a friend that Ronnie would hold Vince under 11 points or under 22% shooting and a $10 bet (with 10-1 odds in my favour) that Ronnie would make Vince cry. Ronnie failed me on all three fronts. Vince even managed to keep his stellar FG% of .411 intact. I was very disappointed.

I thought that of the three All-stars on the court J.O. had the worst game. How he ended up with 14 boards I don't know. I would have figured he pulled down 4-5 tops. Thoughout the first half he was just sulking around giving up tons of o. rebounds.

To only win by 7 pts. against a team who is starting Robert Archibald, I thought was pretty weak. If the Raptors had had Chris Bosh tonight the Pacers would have lost the game, no question. That kid grabs a ton of o. rebounds and with our weak performance on the boards he would have killed us.

lastly,
Man, if Tinsley could nail some of those threes :mad: ... I know he went 3-8, but all 8 of those attempts were with WIDE open looks - and he passed up another 4 or 5 open shots as well.

Tyler, in Toronto

The game wasn't totally pretty I admit, but JO had a BAD game besides the dunks he got and still got 20 and 14. I still think the neck's bothering him, causing everything to be a little bit off and painful. The Pacers could've easily won by at least 15 had some of those extra outside shots had been made by Reggie, or Tinsley. Yes Bosh would've made a difference but this wasn't even close to a good Pacers performance.

tdeltdot
02-07-2004, 12:51 AM
Oh yeah, and for anyone who still thinks that Carter is an elite player (you poor, deluded fool!) and/or thought his decent play tonight is somehow indicative of his game in general, believe me, this was the most aggressive I've seen him all season. Swear to G*d.
I couldn't believe it when he went for a dunk IN TRAFFICat the end of the first half. Check through old ESPN Gamecasts if you must, all the man does is shoot jumpers (and poorly, at that!). So I, a Pacers fan stuck in Raptors-country, was shocked and disappointed to see Vince getting to the hole against, of all people, Ronnie.

Don't blame for grinding an axe, believe me, if you were stuck in Toronto you'd be stewin' about Vince-mania as well. :mad: AAARGHH! :mad:

Peck
02-07-2004, 03:18 AM
I want to give credit where credit is due.

That was about the best game of basketball I've ever seen Ron play. He was on, on both ends of the court.

I didn't say it was his best but it certainly was one of them.

I don't know what it was about him but he looked like a man on a mission last night. Great great game by Ron.

His offense was totally in control & he played within the system & I don't remember him jacking up any stupid shots.

PaceBalls
02-07-2004, 09:27 AM
I want to give credit where credit is due.

That was about the best game of basketball I've ever seen Ron play. He was on, on both ends of the court.

I didn't say it was his best but it certainly was one of them.

I don't know what it was about him but he looked like a man on a mission last night. Great great game by Ron.

His offense was totally in control & he played within the system & I don't remember him jacking up any stupid shots.

You know what's telling about that, I've had the same thoughts about Ron, especially tonight, that was quite a performance. I'd say there have been at least 7 games that I've thought were one of the best games of his career so far this year. He truly has elevated his game. Just like I said he would last summer :P