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  • Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-331242

    Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana
    By Dan Devine
    After an at-times notable but mostly just steady and entertaining 11-year NBA career, Cuttino Mobley(notes) was traded from the Los Angeles Clippers to the New York Knicks with Tim Thomas(notes) in exchange for Zach Randolph(notes) and Mardy Collins(notes). A post-trade physical turned up hypertrophic cardiomyopathy — an enlarged heart, the same condition from which Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis suffered, and an affliction about which Mobley had reportedly known throughout his career.

    The Knicks finalized the deal (after all, they needed to shed Z-Bo's contract), but Mobley never stepped on the court for New York, retiring in December 2008. He worked out with the Boston Celtics for a few days back in September, but didn't catch on.

    Since then, we haven't heard too much from the Philadelphia-born shooting guard. Now, though, the former member of the Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic, Clippers and Knicks is working on something.

    In late January, the Providence Journal's W. Zachary Malinowski reported that the 35-year-old Mobley was listed in documents filed with the Rhode Island Department of Health as "the sole financier for the Summit Medical Compassion Center," a proposed medical marijuana dispensary to be located in Warwick, R.I., about 20 minutes outside of Providence. In a wide-ranging column published Tuesday, Mobley discussed with ProJo columnist Bill Reynolds the dispensary and some of the other irons he's got in the fire.

    As Reynolds tells it, their sitdown had nothing to do with Mobley's on-court career — "It was about what he wants to do with the rest of his life."

    "I want to help people," [Mobley] said.

    He knows that innumerable people have helped him along the way, from Max Good at Maine Central, to Jim Harrick at URI, who gave him confidence, assistant coach Bill Coen, who made him start to believe in his talent. It’s also the way he was raised, his version of spirituality, the sense that you help others when you can. So he helps fund an AAU team in Philadelphia. He built a basketball court in Africa. He helps out his old high school. He has a foundation in Philadelphia that helps single mothers and homeless kids.

    "You get it after a while," Mobley said. "You know what you're supposed to do."

    One of the things he wants to do now is start a wellness center in Warwick, one that will be allowed to dispense medical marijuana. He says he got interested in the field of wellness both through his own medical condition and those of other people close to him, and adds that the health field is one of the fastest growing in the country.

    Mobley told Reynolds that the proposed dispensary is just one element of a larger plan to "get more involved in Rhode Island," where he starred for the University of Rhode Island in the mid-1990s — "this state that helped him at a vulnerable time in his life, this state that saw him go from a young, unstructured kid to someone who grabbed the basketball dream and has made the most of it."

    Before he can open up shop, Mobley will first have to secure a license, which could prove tricky — Rhode Island state law allows the state Department of Health to authorize between one and three dispensaries, and 18 license applications have already been filed, according to Reynolds' Journal colleague Tracy Breton.

    And even if he gets the license, there's still some question as to when exactly anybody will actually be allowed to operate a dispensary.

    While Rhode Island became the 11th state to legalize medical marijuana in January 2006 and one of the first three states to approve the sale of medical marijuana by licensed producers in June 2009, repeated regulatory delays, staffing shortfalls and a reported lack of qualified applicants (the state denied all submissions from the first batch of 15 applications last September) have stalled the initiative. In Tuesday's ProJo piece, Breton reported that any decision on licensing approval had been delayed another week, until March 15, to give the Department of Health's new interim director time to review the submitted applications.

    There's been loads of study, debate and rancor about the issue of medical marijuana in the 11 years since the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine reported that cannabinoid drugs have a "potential therapeutic value ... for pain relief, control of nausea and vomiting, and appetite stimulation," none of which is likely to disappear regardless of how many states approve the drugs' distribution and use by licensed dispensaries and patients. It's also unlikely that introducing a not-that-famous former professional basketball player into the advocacy mix will spur sweeping changes of opinion from many people who've already made up their minds.

    Whichever way your sympathies run, Mobley's a guy who seems to want to use whatever money, influence and profile he may have in the service of doing something within the boundaries of statute that he feels might help some people. We might not all agree with the cause he's chosen to champion, but in a media landscape that frequently fricasees athletes for a perceived dispassion toward most types of social advocacy, that much, at least, is worth commending.

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    Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

    does someone have his phone #?

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    • #3
      Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

      Sweet.
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      Proud member of the PTO.
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      • #4
        Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

        He was a really good player and it was unfortunate he had to retire due to his heart condition.
        In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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          I though he was trying to make a come back with the Clippers? Thats what he said he was trying to do at the start of the season.

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          • #6
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            What really does marijuana heal? As far as I know, everything it helps with (like post traumatic stress disorder) is already available in pill form with non-illegal substances. To me, medical marijuana is just an excuse to get high.

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            • #7
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              Smart business move. Marijuana will eventually be medically available everywhere and I feel like it'll be controlled like alcohol before I die. Getting in on the ground floor now allows you to make a great investment and grow with the industry, so to speak.

              As for Captain Obvious's statement, marijuana does have some positive effects to increase hunger for cancer patients, supposedly helps with glaucoma, and can decrease nausea. While there are pills that replicate these effects, I feel like their side effects are negative, where as the marijuana side effect is being high. There's also the line of thinking that marijuana is natural, whereas pills are often synthetic compounds. These are the arguments for medicinal marijuana.

              In reality, I think most prescriptions in California are bogus, and it is a way for California to legalize pot without actually legalizing pot. Fortunately for me, I think it should be legalized and controlled, so I have no issue with it.

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                Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                I dont expect much people here in the "bible belt" to applaud CM but I definitely feel that what he is aiming for is the right thing.

                I could go on a 10 page note on how the benefits out weigh the con's.

                Its simple really, basketball and marijuana go hand and hand. Also the black market and cartel go hand and hand. Taking a culture, bloodmoney and an extremely huge revenue to a legal stage is the proper thing to do, hands down.

                Im guessing he's been exposed to the culture of marijuana and its effects good and bad. Meaning he knows that; in helping people you bring them medicine. Not war or apathy. Not violence or drug dealing. But simply with love and a goal.

                And this is coming from someone that doesnt use marijuana or get high. I just truly believe that its time to wake up and realize that a natural based substance over rides a pill form. Pills kill.

                So basically if a cancer patent tells me that there life is worth living when there high and pain free.... well thats good enough for me.
                Try hard-er or Die hard-er. In this to win it.

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                  Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                  Originally posted by Captain Obvious View Post
                  What really does marijuana heal? As far as I know, everything it helps with (like post traumatic stress disorder) is already available in pill form with non-illegal substances. To me, medical marijuana is just an excuse to get high.
                  I think it is more about side effects - glaucoma can be treated other ways, for example, but the side effects are a bit worse. Same with anti-nausea meds for chemotherapy.
                  BillS

                  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                  Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                    Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                    I though he was trying to make a come back with the Clippers? Thats what he said he was trying to do at the start of the season.
                    Yeah, but it's a lot easier to just sell pot.


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                      Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                      Originally posted by Captain Obvious View Post
                      What really does marijuana heal? As far as I know, everything it helps with (like post traumatic stress disorder) is already available in pill form with non-illegal substances. To me, medical marijuana is just an excuse to get high.
                      In many cases prescription medication is used to get high. At least pot won't kill you like some of the legal drugs.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                        personal feelings aside, it should be legal

                        the money spent on the war is ridiculous
                        Sittin on top of the world!

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                        • #13
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                          As a cancer doctor, in Rhode Island nonetheless, I have mixed feelings about medical marijuana. I would say maybe once a month I have a patient asking for such a prescription.

                          As far as this goes with regards to cancer patients, those patients I have who swear by it say it helps tremendously with appetite, and to a lesser degree with nausea. They also claim it helps with energy levels.

                          The reason this is happening in Rhode Island is because we have a very liberal population and people like to push the envelope. It will be interesting to watch.

                          Originally posted by BillS View Post
                          I think it is more about side effects - glaucoma can be treated other ways, for example, but the side effects are a bit worse. Same with anti-nausea meds for chemotherapy.
                          "Sometimes, when you look Andy in the eyes, you get a feeling somebody else is driving." -- David Letterman

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                            Good for him. Hopefully it will be legal in all 50 states soon once the US gets its act together.

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                              Re: Cuttino Mobley plans to dispense medical marijuana

                              Originally posted by Captain Obvious View Post
                              What really does marijuana heal? As far as I know, everything it helps with (like post traumatic stress disorder) is already available in pill form with non-illegal substances. To me, medical marijuana is just an excuse to get high.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvGKZQQskLQ

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