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avoidingtheclowns
02-25-2011, 07:37 PM
ROCK THE JAZZ


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Game Time Start: 7:00 PM ET
Where: Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
Officials: B. Spooner, E. Lewis, S. Wall

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<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><TR><TD align="top"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=3>Season Records: (W-L)</TH></TR>
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<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>PACERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/josh_mcroberts.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/brandon_rush.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/darren_collison.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HIBBERT</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>McROBERTS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>GRANGER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>RUSH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>COLLISON</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor= #003300 colSpan=6>JAZZ - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/al_jefferson.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/paul_millsap.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/andrei_kirilenko.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/raja_bell.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/earl_watson.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>JEFFERSON</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>MILLSAP</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>KIRILENKO</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BELL</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>WATSON</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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spazzxb
02-25-2011, 07:38 PM
I find it an interesting feeling to be playing Utah without knowing DW is going to tear our little point guards apart. For the first time in a long time I actually feel like we have a good chance to win against them and its refreshing.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Danny going for 44 points again?

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Utah's on a 5 game losing streak.

Heisenberg
02-25-2011, 07:42 PM
Think any Utah residents are offended by them making their rookies wear pink backpacks?

Jared Sullinger
02-25-2011, 07:53 PM
I'm looking forward to the Millsap vs. Psycho T matchup.

dohman
02-25-2011, 07:59 PM
poor poor milsap.. He is going to be hurting tomorrow.

Daniel33
02-25-2011, 08:07 PM
Earl Watsons return, gonna see what he can do.

PacersPride
02-25-2011, 08:07 PM
Danny going for 44 points again?

Pacers have a balanced scoring attack. No reason for Danny to go for 40, and if he does it too the detriment of the team.

20 and 5 assists would be nice from DG.. and less than 2 TO's.

lavell12
02-25-2011, 08:13 PM
I'm predicting a big night from Josh in response to the failed trade. He helps pick up another W with 24/11.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:14 PM
I just hope we don't take Utah for granted, just because DW is gone.

Sookie
02-25-2011, 08:15 PM
I really don't know that I buy these "Collison asked for a trade out of NO because he wanted to start" which a few commentators have said..

ooo I forgot Raja was on this team ... <3

Daniel33
02-25-2011, 08:16 PM
Wow the Jazz annoucers do say: DC demaded a trade to play for the Pacers and he's not a good shooter.

Unclebuck
02-25-2011, 08:17 PM
wow this is no the Utah Jaz team I have known for the past 20 years

Sparhawk
02-25-2011, 08:20 PM
Good to see Roy being aggressive early. Now if only Rush were taking notes on being aggressive.

croz24
02-25-2011, 08:21 PM
3 straight bad plays danny. time to wake up

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:21 PM
Turnovers and interior defense

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:22 PM
wow this is no the Utah Jaz team I have known for the past 20 years

lol

no question, but time moves on everything

righteouscool
02-25-2011, 08:23 PM
3 straight bad plays danny. time to wake up

Here we go again. . .

I respect your opinion, but this nonsense is annoying.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:23 PM
Milsap v Hansbrough should be a fun matchup. Carbon copy players.

Kemo
02-25-2011, 08:23 PM
lol .. What's up with ak47's hair? haha
Does he got Bieber-Fever?

PaceBalls
02-25-2011, 08:24 PM
Once again the starters come out and stink it up...

Bring on the GOON SQUAD!!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:24 PM
Message to our starters:

Danny- GTFO if you're not going to try and quit being useless.
Collison- Quit being a puss and get your head in the game
Josh- Quit being soft as tissue paper
Rush-Quit being scared
Hibbert- Shoot the ball every time you get it

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 08:25 PM
We need to impose our will on this game. We are looking too hesitant with everything we do. Roy needs to touch the ball at least once every possession.

gummy
02-25-2011, 08:26 PM
It would be nice to see players not named Danny and Roy touch the ball more once we're in the half court set. I've seen Josh and Brandon open a number of times so far. Pass the ball and make the defense react, guys!

croz24
02-25-2011, 08:26 PM
Here we go again. . .

I respect your opinion, but this nonsense is annoying.

are you serious? so i can't say a thing about danny? danny did a horrible job in his drive on bell, got it stripped by ak47, then turned it over after the inbounds. he also bit on an ak pump fake. why would anyone leave their feet guarding ak47? that's not me being a hater on danny but when the guy makes consecutive bad plays why the hell can't we mention it?

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Roy is so freaking good.

spazzxb
02-25-2011, 08:27 PM
I think our best lineup is on the floor now.

dc
pg
dg
th
rh

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:28 PM
We're going to get blown out by a team with no talent. Yuuuummmm.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:29 PM
We have no post defense.

spazzxb
02-25-2011, 08:29 PM
We're going to get blown out by a team with no talent. Yuuuummmm.

How many players in the league do you think have talent?

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 08:30 PM
yeahhh this ones not lookin good.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:30 PM
Have you ever heard of sarcasm spazzxb?

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:30 PM
We're going to get blown out by a team with no talent. Yuuuummmm.
Ok, well this is inaccurate. They may have lost their best player, but they aren't without talent. We've always had trouble with Al Jefferson. Utah is playing smart. They're going straight to their strengths.

croz24
02-25-2011, 08:30 PM
tyler, you do have an option to pass the basketball.

MarvelousMarvin
02-25-2011, 08:30 PM
PASS THE BALL TYLER

righteouscool
02-25-2011, 08:31 PM
are you serious? so i can't say a thing about danny? danny did a horrible job in his drive on bell, got it stripped by ak47, then turned it over after the inbounds. he also bit on an ak pump fake. why would anyone leave their feet guarding ak47? that's not me being a hater on danny but when the guy makes consecutive bad plays why the hell can't we mention it?

No, you are free to say whatever you want. I'm also free to say your constant insistence on how bad Danny is is getting obnoxious. We get it. No one here thinks Danny is some super level player and the vast majority of us think he's been garbage lately.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:32 PM
we actually look, at times, more disorganized under vogel than his predecessor

pathil275
02-25-2011, 08:32 PM
Our starters aren't really good. The bench saved us some Ws lately. Hopefully they pick it up tonight again. Problem so far is that we don't get in transition. Utah is set on defense and that makes it difficult.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:33 PM
I love this defense. Don't even get me started about the offense.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:33 PM
Did the rumored trade have that much effect?

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 08:34 PM
5-20 shooting

-_-

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:35 PM
We're going to get killed.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:35 PM
all jump shots no drives

Sookie
02-25-2011, 08:35 PM
They need to play like a team and stop playing one on one

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 08:36 PM
13 points.

13 points.

13. Points.

croz24
02-25-2011, 08:36 PM
No, you are free to say whatever you want. I'm also free to say your constant insistence on how bad Danny is is getting obnoxious. We get it. No one here thinks Danny is some super level player and the vast majority of us think he's been garbage lately.

give it up man. i mentioned danny once in the first 45minutes of the detroit game and then say something about him making consecutive poor decisions tonight. i've called out every player during a game thread. when players aren't getting it done regardless of who in a game, i'll say something. i guess there's some protective shield around danny where he is free from negative comments? just drop it. i said nothing overly negative about him.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:36 PM
more than anything we need another player besides Roy who can score in the box

righteouscool
02-25-2011, 08:36 PM
Awful shooting. IF it weren't for Hibbert this would be a massacre.

CooperManning
02-25-2011, 08:36 PM
RIP 100 point streak.

Dr. Awesome
02-25-2011, 08:37 PM
we actually look, at times, more disorganized under vogel than his predecessor

O'Brien had 3+ years, Vogel has had less than 15 games...give it time.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:37 PM
DC, Danny, Rush, and Josh have been pathetic. They need to get their heads out of their asses and play with some fire.

daschysta
02-25-2011, 08:38 PM
With that shooting we should be losing by more.

We can come back in this if we start playing semi-competently.

Sookie
02-25-2011, 08:38 PM
O'Brien had 3+ years, Vogel has had less than 15 games...give it time.

It's also not surprising considering Vogel said he's pretty much going to put the offense in the hands of his two second year PGs.

They're good PGs, but they are second year players..it'll look disorganized on occasion. :laugh:

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:39 PM
How many games are our bench going to bail us out of?

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:39 PM
O'Brien had 3+ years, Vogel has had less than 15 games...give it time.

no doubt, but it concerns me, makes me start to think the first 6-7 games were the honeymoon, and this is becoming reality

and there is no more opportunity for a trade

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:41 PM
Gordo

MainePacer31
02-25-2011, 08:41 PM
PG got yammed on.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:41 PM
Welp.. Thanks for getting my hopes up you pathetic players. No motivation.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 08:42 PM
Good try by Paul. I think Hayward was lucky he didn't get raped.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:42 PM
It's also not surprising considering Vogel said he's pretty much going to put the offense in the hands of his two second year PGs.

They're good PGs, but they are second year players..it'll look disorganized on occasion. :laugh:

true , but I am losing confidence in DC after each game

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 08:42 PM
i dont like Price at all...

croz24
02-25-2011, 08:42 PM
god that pisses me off. more jazz hayward jerseys there than pacers. guess that's to be expected from this bandwagon town.

Jared Sullinger
02-25-2011, 08:43 PM
bhaas now needs a change of underwear.

lavell12
02-25-2011, 08:43 PM
Yes Tyler has some real big games but I'm tired of his horrible shooting percentage. He has no consistency to his game. If he isn't scoring he is useless b/c he offers no defense.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:43 PM
How many games are our bench going to bail us out of?

Great question, which begs another

Why aren't they starting?

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:43 PM
Wow that PnR defense was God awful.

dal9
02-25-2011, 08:44 PM
damn this o looks weak...put in mayo... :/

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:44 PM
Great question, which begs another

Why aren't they starting?

All I know is that we are going to have to make some changes in our starting lineup (Which should have been done a long time ago) before we get blown out big-time.

Lord Helmet
02-25-2011, 08:45 PM
Getting dunked on by Hayward is embarrassing. Looks like a pro-Utah crowd tonight. :unimpress

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:47 PM
just a reminder, Lance might be able to bring some offense

Jared Sullinger
02-25-2011, 08:47 PM
damn this o looks weak...put in mayo... :/

:laugh:

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:47 PM
damn this o looks weak...put in mayo... :/:laugh:

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm sorry but if Rush and Josh aren't going to look for their shots at all then they shouldn't ever be on the court together.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:49 PM
Ok...come on Danny.

gummy
02-25-2011, 08:49 PM
I'm sorry but if Rush and Josh aren't going to look for their shots at all then they shouldn't ever be on the court together.

They've barely touched the ball. The other players have to pass to them too.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:49 PM
Wow, 23% shooting and we're only down 8.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:50 PM
Woah that was a nice post move by Danny.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 08:50 PM
Hey look guys, we still got 7 min to play in the first quarter...at least according to FSN on my TV lol

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:50 PM
Nice post up DG

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:50 PM
They've barely touched the ball. The other players have to pass to them too.

Yeah that makes sense, but they have to do their part too and make themselves available.

Like Rush just did. :)

immortality
02-25-2011, 08:51 PM
From the last 3 games, I think I can extrapolate you guys are over reacting.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:51 PM
Yes sir! Let's go, men!

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:51 PM
somebody please text area 55 to make some noise

and take the quarter over DG

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:52 PM
I bet that we are about to get super hot and hit a lot of shots real soon.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:52 PM
Get some God damn boards.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:52 PM
There you go JOSH!!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:53 PM
AJ!!!!

Daniel33
02-25-2011, 08:53 PM
J-Mac serves a Pizza!

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 08:53 PM
bring in Lance

Sandman21
02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
I think the Pacers finally arrived.....

avoidingtheclowns
02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
Did this dude just did this?

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LoneGranger33
02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
A.J. Price cannot be fouled!

Sookie
02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
Foul?

Heisenberg
02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
I really, really wish Danny'd utilize his post game more. It's not elite or anything, but probably above average for his position. Don't know if it's because of the offense he used to be in, afraid of contact, who knows.

gummy
02-25-2011, 08:55 PM
I think the Vogel era has shown us so far that we don't effectively lose games in the first quarter anymore. Even when we get behind we just...keep...coming. ;)

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 08:56 PM
Danny...smh

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:56 PM
Wow Danny..

Here comes DC to suck the life out of our offense.

gummy
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
Yeah that makes sense, but they have to do their part too and make themselves available.

Like Rush just did. :)

Yep, for sure. I thought both did several times in the 1st quarter but they did not receive the ball.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! THATS IT JOSH!!!

LoneGranger33
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
What was the fan reaction to McRoberts like initially?

Wu-Gambino
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
McBob!

dal9
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
lol mrs hayward might have been creeping with rik smits back in the day...yall don't see the resemblence?

gummy
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
Brandon is pretty good at that closeout block.

Sandman21
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
AIR JOSH!!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:57 PM
Yep, for sure. I thought both did several times in the 1st quarter but they did not receive the ball.

I love Josh's cuts.

CooperManning
02-25-2011, 08:58 PM
No Mayo no problem.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 08:58 PM
Post defense is bad. Really bad.

Heisenberg
02-25-2011, 08:59 PM
Danny needs to get fined for every transition 3 he chucks up

Trophy
02-25-2011, 08:59 PM
I really would've missed Josh.

Sookie
02-25-2011, 08:59 PM
I'm so glad that trade fell through. So glad.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:00 PM
Yeah, it feels like the past few games since Brandon has returned from his injury he has had multiple blocked shots in crucial times especially when the shot clock is running low. I like it.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:00 PM
Danny needs to get fined for every transition 3 he chucks up

I agree.. We could have set up the offense for big Roy.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:00 PM
just got back from a friends....have we just looked awful?

Evan_The_Dude
02-25-2011, 09:00 PM
5 blocks between Rush and JMac

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:01 PM
Danny needs to get fined for every transition 3 he chucks up

It seems like he hits those at a pretty good clip, especially when Darren brings the ball up and passes it behind himself to a trailing Danny.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:01 PM
just got back from a friends....have we just looked awful?

Yeah then our bench + Danny, Josh, and a couple of points by Rush (Plus good perimeter defense) got us back into it.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:02 PM
Josh is having some HUGE problems on the boards. Had those last game too.

QUIT FOULING DANNY.

LoneGranger33
02-25-2011, 09:02 PM
Yeah, it feels like the past few games since Brandon has returned from his injury he has had multiple blocked shots in crucial times especially when the shot clock is running low. I like it.

What concerns me is his off-ball movement on offense. He seems to suffer intermittently from a case of "two players, one spot". I don't know why this is the case.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:03 PM
How in the **** do you not dunk that Roy?!

Sookie
02-25-2011, 09:03 PM
Josh is having some HUGE problems on the boards. Had those last game too.

QUIT FOULING DANNY.

He needs to box out.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:03 PM
And our starters are back in to suck the life out of us.. Yay.

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:05 PM
How in the **** do you not dunk that Roy?!

I think we have ample evidence that Roy has a hard time getting off the ground without being able to take a step or two toward the basket. I don't know if that can be improved much. :(

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:05 PM
BOX OUT DC WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH YOU THEN SHOOT THE ****ING JUMPSHOT YOU HAVE BEEN THE MOST USELESS PLAYER THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIVE TONIGHT WAKE THE **** UP!!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:05 PM
Let me say that I'm being sarcastic 99% of the time on these posts.

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 09:06 PM
BOX OUT DC WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH YOU THEN SHOOT THE ****ING JUMPSHOT YOU HAVE BEEN THE MOST USELESS PLAYER THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIVE TONIGHT WAKE THE **** UP!!

calm down bro

xBulletproof
02-25-2011, 09:06 PM
This is about as bad as I think we can play and we're close. We'll pull away in the 2nd half.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:06 PM
What concerns me is his off-ball movement on offense. He seems to suffer intermittently from a case of "two players, one spot". I don't know why this is the case.

Yeah I hope that is just some hangover from JOB's system of chucking 3s and standing in corners...but I fear it could be he just doesn't know his role on O that well.

Wilk39
02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
This is the worst half we have played under Vogel. :(

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
This is the most pathetic defense ever.

Darren Collison is terrible right now. I don't want to see him play right now.

Sookie
02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
okay DC..please stop taking that shot.

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
What happened to DC's jumpshot?

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:07 PM
calm down bro

(I'm not really that mad) :laugh:

crunk-juice
02-25-2011, 09:08 PM
i want to see Lance. what is there to lose? cant get much worse offensively anyway.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:08 PM
Our offense has been terrible and it's sloppy.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:08 PM
Has DC been getting lessons from TJ Ford during AS Break?

dal9
02-25-2011, 09:08 PM
OT, just saw this, not sure it deserves own thread

http://www.jconline.com/article/20110225/NEWS03/110225029

By: AP


Poll shows strong Michigan voter opposition to weapons law change

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS • February 25, 2011
LANSING, Mich. - Sixty-eight percent of Michigan residents surveyed in a recent poll oppose legislation that would allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry handguns in places like schools, day care centers, sports arenas and churches.

Poll results released Friday by Lansing-based EPIC-MRA show only 29 percent of the 600 people questioned Feb. 12 through Feb. 17 favored the legislation. Three percent say they are undecided.

The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Democrats oppose the proposal 85 percent to 12 percent, while Republicans oppose it 56 percent to 40 percent.

State law currently allows concealed weapon permit holders to carry a handgun most anywhere. Places of worship, educational institutions, entertainment facilities, hospitals, courtrooms and bars are among places where concealed weapons are prohibited.


things couldve been alot worse at the Malice in the Palace, if this law was in place

Gold
02-25-2011, 09:08 PM
Hibbert is drawing the quintuple team. lol.

Sookie
02-25-2011, 09:09 PM
What happened to DC's jumpshot?

I think he's streaky. He'll start making everything in a few games and everyone will go "DC's best PG EVER!!!"

PaceBalls
02-25-2011, 09:09 PM
What the hell is going on with DC. Totally lackadaisical. Playing with no energy. He is stinking it up bad out there. ZERO effort. I'd bench him for the rest of the night just for that pitiful weaksauce game he has shown. We have guys that want to play that will put some effort forth. I hope Coach Frank starts AJ in the 2nd half.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:10 PM
I don't think we are in the worst shape, but we are playing Utah's game right now.

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:10 PM
This is the worst half we have played under Vogel. :(

Maybe. Seems like we played our worst quarter in Detroit though.

Only down 5, I'll take it. 50% chance of an offensive explosion in the 3rd quarter. :cool:

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:11 PM
DC has 0 assists? :-o

He really needs to slow it down and not force shots.

Also neither team's made a 3.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 09:11 PM
Im sick and tired of watching DC bring the ball up and miss a 20 foot jumper with 15 plus seconds left on the shot clock

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:12 PM
What happened to DC's jumpshot?Slump..all players go through it. Won't last forever.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:12 PM
What the hell is going on with DC. Totally lackadaisical. Playing with no energy. He is stinking it up bad out there. ZERO effort. I'd bench him for the rest of the night just for that pitiful weaksauce game he has shown. We have guys that want to play that will put some effort forth. I hope Coach Frank starts AJ in the 2nd half.

This.

PaceBalls
02-25-2011, 09:13 PM
Slump..all players go through it. Won't last forever.

I don't care if he is in a slump, that is fine. But he just doggin it out there. Get that man an espresso or something.

Sandman21
02-25-2011, 09:14 PM
Bird on the halftime show?

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 09:14 PM
play Lance

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:14 PM
This.

is the way I live!!

PacersPride
02-25-2011, 09:15 PM
just my 2pennies..

but i think the pacers looked flat, or more specifically the first unit. i think its understandable with mcrob almost being traded. the second unit really sparked us and got us back in the game.

hopefully the 2nd half the starters get going.. roy was showing signs along with 32, but DG is missing in action tonight.


Awesome dunk by Hayward!

Merz
02-25-2011, 09:15 PM
Some things that have really been irritating me about the team the last few games:

1. They've been giving up way to many offensive rebounds (my number one pet peeve)

2. They haven't been shooting their free throws as well as before (my number two pet peeve)

3. They've been having trouble getting the ball in at the sidelines, they've been coming way to close to the 5 second call it seems (it is not as bad as the other two, but it still annoys me).

They've still been winning games despite this, so I can't complain too much. I'd just hate to see any of this bite them in the a#$ (thought #3 already did against Miami a couple of weeks ago).

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Bird, "3:01 had nothing to do with it."

IndySDExport
02-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Hibbert is drawing the quintuple team. lol.

The only problem is he's still taking the shot (and getting blocked.) Dude needs to pass it out of the quintuple teams I think. I'm betting someone's open.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:16 PM
This is one of those games that we're making harder on ourselves than it needs to be.

Roy has been doing well, but should be more aggressive in the paint. He was blocked 3 times.

TheDon
02-25-2011, 09:18 PM
That halftime bit with bird was interesting

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:19 PM
Do our slumping PG's mean Ford may be retained this year instead of bought out?

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 09:19 PM
Birds pizzed

tora tora
02-25-2011, 09:20 PM
Dwayne Wade is putting on a show right now.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:21 PM
I feel confident we're gonna bring in some good pieces in the offseason. Whether it's OJ Mayo and/or using our cap space.

Pretty much once these older contracts expire, we have our core and Bird is gonna need to evaluate who will make us a contender for years to come.

90'sNBARocked
02-25-2011, 09:22 PM
That halftime bit with bird was interesting

What did he say? I missed it

xBulletproof
02-25-2011, 09:22 PM
Dwayne Wade is putting on a show right now.

Holy ... you mean he can score when someone other than Dunleavy is guarding him? You don't say ....

People around here acted like he was Rasho Nesterovic that went off that night.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:23 PM
Roy needs to go to the basket with purpose.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:23 PM
What did he say? I missed it

He said a deal was close and had it drawn up with Memphis at first, but one of the teams pulled out (New Orleans).

diamonddave00
02-25-2011, 09:23 PM
Effective pg play 24 minutes 0 assist. Rush with inspired offense 2 points. George and Hans 0 of 10 , while Millsap , Kirilenko and Jefferson have 27 pointa and 15 boards and somehow only down 5.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:24 PM
bad D

Sookie
02-25-2011, 09:24 PM
You guys, DC is really young. He's going to struggle. Part of the pleasure of watching this young team grow, is watching them struggle.

Everything I've seen about DC suggests that, at the very least, he'll realize what he needs to work on over the summer, and he'll work on it. He seems like a guy that always tries.

With his shot, I think all he's doing is trying to shoot himself out of it. And he's a scoring point guard, and he's taking good shots (Mostly, that 4-1 midrange shot has got to stop..but..he'll learn)

DC will learn from his mistakes. (For example, he's become much better at passing the ball into the post) I'm confident in that.

And I'll repeat this for the 100th time, you shouldn't evaluate PG play by assists.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:24 PM
No resistance on defense.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
If this 7+ foot of man doesn't stop missing bunnies...

IndySDExport
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
Hibbert. Dude! pass out of the triple teams!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
Josh has no boxing out ability.

righteouscool
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
Josh is getting killed on the boards.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
Josh has no boxing out ability.

no one on our team does

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:26 PM
Danny isn't trusting his teammates.. Our starters are terrible. They don't even care.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Good dunk Roy.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Terrible defense Roy.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Monroe, Jefferson, Milsap...we're getting punished down low.

Haywoode Workman
02-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Section 7 row 17 right in the middle of the gordon Hayward family /fan section. That's where I'm seated. So uncomfortable.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:28 PM
get danny out

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:28 PM
In a couple of minutes here comes our bench to bail us out.. Sigh.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:29 PM
Take over DG.

idioteque
02-25-2011, 09:29 PM
Section 7 row 17 right in the middle of the gordon Hayward family /fan section. That's where I'm seated. So uncomfortable.

Rooting for Hayward gets under my skin but I guess I can kinda deal with it. Rooting for the Jazz is crossing the line and the people who do that, if I say so myself, are ****ing tools.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:29 PM
OH COME ON ROY! SHOW SOME RESISTANCE.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:29 PM
Man we need AK47 next year.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:30 PM
Thank you Rush.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:30 PM
RUSH!!

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:30 PM
For all the talk about Brandon and the other young'uns being inconsistent, I think Danny has been the most inconsistent player this season, especially when you consider he is pretty much a finished product at this point.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:30 PM
Best defense EVER Danny. Woah.

And another turnover by DC. You're a joke.

CooperManning
02-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Rush, do that...a lot.

BlueNGold
02-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Bird should try (and fail) to trade all of our players. Rush and McRoberts are our best players...

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Man we need AK47 next year.

No thanks.

IndySDExport
02-25-2011, 09:31 PM
There is no energy in the stands man. It is so quite. Someone needs to wake up the crowd.

Area 55!!!! Wake up!

MarvelousMarvin
02-25-2011, 09:32 PM
For all the talk about Brandon and the other young'uns being inconsistent, I think Danny has been the most inconsistent player this season, especially when you consider he is pretty much a finished product at this point.

This is just untrue. He hasn't had a good shooting year for the most part he's just had some really good shooting games sprinkled in.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:32 PM
Lance really can't do worse than DC is right now at point guard.

BlueNGold
02-25-2011, 09:33 PM
DC is a steaming pile of poop.

I am very unimpressed and not happy with him as the starting PG. He may be better than TJ, but it doesn't feel that way. AJ Price actually remotely resembles a PG and I'd be fine with him switching spots with DC.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:34 PM
DC is a steaming pile of poop.

I am very unimpressed and not happy with him as the starting PG. He may be better than TJ, but it doesn't feel that way. AJ Price actually remotely resembles a PG and I'd be fine with him switching spots with DC.

:laugh:

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:34 PM
This is just untrue. He hasn't had a good shooting year for the most part he's just had some really good shooting games sprinkled in.

That's pretty much the definition of inconsistent, my friend - swinging high to low. I didn't say he's been horrible. I like Danny. I said he's been inconsistent. That means sometimes he looks awesome and sometimes he looks horrible, I can never tell which we'll get from night to night or even quarter to quarter. And it's not just the offense, although at this point calling him defensively inconsistent is probably generous.

IndySDExport
02-25-2011, 09:35 PM
The starters have no energy.

You can hear the crowd pick up when the bench comes in.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:35 PM
Floater DC. Floater.

tora tora
02-25-2011, 09:36 PM
Darren's gonna give Al Jefferson a career high in blocks tonight.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:36 PM
That ref deserves a good kick right in the groin.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:37 PM
RIP 100 point streak.Yep

MainePacer31
02-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Jazz announcers suck, their too damn cocky.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Jefferson is a beast

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:37 PM
We're all going to die.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:37 PM
We're trapped in Utah World!

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:38 PM
Jefferson is a beastYes he is.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:38 PM
Come on AJ. Hit something man.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:39 PM
It's really annoying me that we're not using the clock.

MainePacer31
02-25-2011, 09:40 PM
Anybody see an over the back last offense play?

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:40 PM
Our biggest two problems recently:

1.) Post defense
2.) Point guard play

Sookie
02-25-2011, 09:40 PM
Come on AJ. Hit something man.

I think Jim O'brien took AJ's shot with him. It'd be nice if he returned it.

righteouscool
02-25-2011, 09:40 PM
Tyler has been pretty bad tonight.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:40 PM
I don't get the point of complaining when we take open or good shots. AJ just missed it. It is gonna happen. If we complain about every missed shot then were gonna be pissed for at least half of the game.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:41 PM
good pass DG!

dal9
02-25-2011, 09:41 PM
hard-hitting reporting and analysis by paetz there

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:41 PM
I like AJ's defense

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:42 PM
I don't get the point of complaining when we take open or good shots. AJ just missed it. It is gonna happen. If we complain about every missed shot then were gonna be pissed for at least half of the game.

You're right. But game threads are like that, even otherwise reasonable posters get a little overexcited in here.

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:42 PM
And to those of you who said that we don't need a guy like Millsap.. Yeah.

pathil275
02-25-2011, 09:42 PM
Millsap is a beast. Really good player. Probably impossible to get, let alone for the Pacers. Couldn't even think of a trade proposal that would make it done. Granger, 1st and taking back a bad contract (if Utah even has one left).

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Conseco Fieldhouse: Home of the Miami Heat, Gordon Hayward, and the Indiana Pacers.

xBulletproof
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Hayward's dad looks like Ned Flanders. Took me a while to realize who it was.

MainePacer31
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Take advantage of millsaps' limp.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
im still hopeful for 100!

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Millsap is a beast. Really good player. Probably impossible to get, let alone for the Pacers. Couldn't even think of a trade proposal that would make it done. Granger, 1st and taking back a bad contract (if Utah even has one left).
Why would they?

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Hayward's dad looks like Ned Flanders. Took me a while to realize who it was.

:laugh:

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Hayward's dad looks like Ned Flanders. Took me a while to realize who it was.

:D

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:44 PM
im still hopeful for 100!

If we score 100 than Lance Stephenson will play. Which won't happen.

DemonHunter1105
02-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Would anyone be against Tyler or Foster leveling (albeit with the body alone, nothing too obvious) Jefferson or Millsap so they might stop coming into the lane so much??

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Darn it! Everytime we get close!

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Price can't hit anything of late.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:45 PM
I didn't know that Harris was black, he looks so dark :laugh:

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:45 PM
Lol. Big time fail for the Hayward fans.

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:45 PM
just our luck....

croz24
02-25-2011, 09:46 PM
lol this crowd is pathetic. hayward is NOT an indiana pacer.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:46 PM
Hayward tried to pull a Manu :laugh:

gummy
02-25-2011, 09:47 PM
I didn't know that Harris was black, he looks so dark :laugh:

Huh?

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:47 PM
lol...Hayward with the 'I was drafted ahead of you' dunk over PG. Just now had a chance to look at it.

Trophy
02-25-2011, 09:47 PM
This game is right there for us to take over.

Get the offense going and not allow Utah to have their way in and round the paint.

MainePacer31
02-25-2011, 09:48 PM
PG has been off today. You can hear the small jazz crowd tonight.

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:48 PM
lol this crowd is pathetic. hayward is NOT an indiana pacer.
He's beloved here.

LucasRL13
02-25-2011, 09:48 PM
We can't pass Utah, OMG

NapTonius Monk
02-25-2011, 09:49 PM
Bring it!

pathil275
02-25-2011, 09:49 PM
Why would they?

Jefferson, Millsap, Favors. Three similar players, so I'd assume one is available (when Favors emerges).

Pacergeek
02-25-2011, 09:49 PM
He's beloved here.

i know why he is loved here, but its not appropriate for pd.

Asteezy
02-25-2011, 09:49 PM
If Lance cant get in this game with the Level of PG play weve seen tonight im worried for him!

PacerPenguins
02-25-2011, 09:49 PM
We have the lead!!

BringJackBack
02-25-2011, 09:50 PM
Hans is a beast.

vnzla81
02-25-2011, 09:50 PM
Nice Tyler

croz24
02-25-2011, 09:50 PM
the pacers can not lose this game. 9-3 but against crap teams. utah is a winner, even without dwill they have far more talent than any team but miami we've played in this stretch. we must win this game.