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90'sNBARocked
01-19-2011, 04:37 PM
Just heard on the fan. Sory no link I'm driving

hoops_guy
01-19-2011, 04:38 PM
So he goes from not being able to get off the bench to starting again? I swear I don't get it. :hmm: :mad:

Since86
01-19-2011, 04:40 PM
Hibbert (illness) questionable 2nite vs Warriors. McRoberts will start if Hibbert doesn't play.
http://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA (http://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA)


So he goes from DNP-CD to starting....again.

As much as I want Josh to play, this is getting absurd.

From Kester's thread.

vnzla81
01-19-2011, 04:40 PM
So he goes from not being able to get off the bench to starting again? I swear I don't get it. :hmm: :mad:

Jim got to see him in practice ......

Speed
01-19-2011, 04:41 PM
I like him at Center. I think he can guard the position and can run his guy ragged. I don't want him starting over Roy normally, but still. JMac and Tyler up front will be fun to watch, they really have complimentary skill sets, but both bring energy.

It might do Roy some good to get some rest anyway.

Now, does this mean 30 mins for Posey or Solo, let's hope not.

Deadshot
01-19-2011, 04:51 PM
I don't like to see Roy get sick, but if this means that McBob and Hans are going to run against the Warriors at the same time, I'm a little excited.

Unclebuck
01-19-2011, 05:09 PM
So he goes from not being able to get off the bench to starting again? I swear I don't get it. :hmm: :mad:

Actually Jim has done that since his first season here. That is what he does. I think he does that to try and keep the same player rotation (except for the new player obviously)

But isn't this what we all want? Josh getting some PT

And agaisnt the Warriors you want as much quickness in the lineup as possible.

Should be interesting to see this team without Roy

vnzla81
01-19-2011, 05:13 PM
Yes I can't wait too see small ball today with Posey as the center ............ :puke:

Sookie
01-19-2011, 05:14 PM
That's a shame. I don't think the Warriors have the best defenders in the post, it might have been a good chance to get Roy some confidence.

I am happy to see Josh though. And I really don't know what people expected. I guess maybe Solo? Maybe Foster..but I'd be hesitant to start him and use him huge minutes.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 05:17 PM
Yes I can't wait too see small ball today with Posey as the center ............ :puke:

That has never happened, at least not since Dec 21rst.

http://www.popcornmachine.net/

presto123
01-19-2011, 05:19 PM
Where are those people that dogged McBob out in my other post?

McKeyFan
01-19-2011, 05:19 PM
Was Roy on the grassy knoll when he got sick?

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 05:19 PM
That's a shame. I don't think the Warriors have the best defenders in the post, it might have been a good chance to get Roy some confidence.

I am happy to see Josh though. And I really don't know what people expected. I guess maybe Solo? Maybe Foster..but I'd be hesitant to start him and use him huge minutes.

Your right. We are lucky to have him healthy and he may be the best center we have, however Foster doesn't have a good history and shouldn't be overused with his back issues.

Unclebuck
01-19-2011, 05:22 PM
Yes I can't wait too see small ball today with Posey as the center ............ :puke:

what does that have to do with this thread.

SMosley21
01-19-2011, 05:23 PM
McBob has played a total of 15 minutes this MONTH.

vnzla81
01-19-2011, 05:28 PM
what does that have to do with this thread.

My prediction ..... :cool: And that Roy is out and would need somebody to replace him, what a better guy than Posey to do this.

Since86
01-19-2011, 05:29 PM
McBob has played a total of 15 minutes this MONTH.

Don't you know, you learn a lot more sitting than you do playing. Duh....

Unclebuck
01-19-2011, 05:31 PM
Don't you know, you learn a lot more sitting than you do playing. Duh....

No one has ever even suggested that.

CableKC
01-19-2011, 05:41 PM
I'll be the "Debbie Downer" for this thread. Remember that McBob has started before and ended up playing very limited minutes afterwards.

The Warriors play both Small Ball ( VladRad/Udoh at the PF spot and Lee/Biedrins at the Center spot ) but lean more towards a traditional PF/C rotation involving Lee and Biedrins.

I know that it's mere speculation based off of our common thoughts regarding JO'B's rotation.....but I would look at McBob starting but for Solo and Foster to be manning the Center spot and looking for McBob to be playing about 10-15 mpg. Now that JO'B has Foster back....we're going to be watching him ( and Solo ) try to defend the paint from Monta continually driving to the hoop.

My guess is that Monta will score 35 to 40 points with half of them scored while attacking the basket. Good thing that Foster and Solo are great shotblockers :banghead:

SMosley21
01-19-2011, 05:45 PM
My guess is that Monta will score 35 to 40 points with half of them scored while attacking the basket. Good thing that Foster and Solo are great shotblockers :banghead:

I remember when we signed Solo and it was suggested that he was a legit shot blocking presence.

pacer4ever
01-19-2011, 05:45 PM
:notamused:

CableKC
01-19-2011, 05:47 PM
I remember when we signed Solo and it was suggested that he was a legit shot blocking presence.
Yeah, I remember that....did that version of Solo show up?

Unfortunately, Solo doesn't scare off Players from driving to the paint. Granger does a better job of doing that then Solo does :banghead:

billbradley
01-19-2011, 05:49 PM
twin towers time

pacergod2
01-19-2011, 05:52 PM
I just want our guys to start growing their hair out. I want Mustache Mania II. I want to beat the Warriors. Make it a big charity thing where they give their hair to charity. Wouldn't Foster look great if he had a sweet mullet with that 'stache?

Oh. And I like it that Josh and Tyler are getting playing time next to each other, no matter how limited it will be.

UB - it is useless to get in between Since86 and vnzla81 when it comes to these conversations. Their sarcasm and hyperbole with offset any rational thought you have. No offense guys. It is just how you roll. I'm not saying I disagree with a lot of what you say either.

Trophy
01-19-2011, 05:54 PM
I don't know what to say.

I'm happy he's going to at least play, but I don't understand why Jim moves a guy from inactive to starter.

Hopefully he'll take advantage and play a lot of minutes with Tyler.

graphic-er
01-19-2011, 05:56 PM
Man this Coach does not have any sort of predetermined depth chart. That is why he is a terrible coach.

Trophy
01-19-2011, 06:04 PM
I have a bad feeling he's only gonna play like 7 minutes in the whole game and then the keys will be turned over to Jeff and Solo at center.

Hopefully we manage to build a big lead so we won't have to see Posey come in and chuck up shots and Tyler plays a lot of time.

maragin
01-19-2011, 06:30 PM
Please Josh, have such an incredible game that:

1. The coach is forced to play you in subsequent games or
2. The coach is removed for not playing you in subsequent games

SMosley21
01-19-2011, 06:40 PM
how sweet would it be to see Josh go off and have like 20 points and 15 rebounds tonight?

xIndyFan
01-19-2011, 06:42 PM
good to see the josh/tyler pairing. :laugh:

there does seem to be s synergy and energy with them. i hope they play hard and that the hard play is infectious.

GSW is a good team for josh to play. i just hope this works. i'm tired of watching the pacers lose. :sigh:

imbtyler
01-19-2011, 06:47 PM
how sweet would it be to see Josh go off and have like 20 points and 15 rebounds tonight?

I say 26 and 18. With 7 dunks.

Diamond Dave
01-19-2011, 07:22 PM
:scream::scream::scream::scream::scream: ANIMAL CRACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diamond Dave
01-19-2011, 07:23 PM
I say 26 and 18. With 7 dunks.


Better make that 12 dunks, with 2 of them being And 1's. Cause thats the only way Josh is getting 26.

odeez
01-19-2011, 07:24 PM
I am just excited to see the Pacers play, going to the game tonight at the Oracle. $10 dollar tickets. I was hoping to see Big Roy, but I will take what I can get!

Rogco
01-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Why didn't he start against Griffin??

I think I've finally figured how JOB determines the rotation, he's got this 8 ball that's magic and answers questions for him. He traded his hairline for it.

pacergod2
01-19-2011, 07:31 PM
Can he wear a big brown wig and a fake beard tonight?

He would dominate with that kind of swagger.

pacergod2
01-19-2011, 07:32 PM
Why didn't he start against Griffin??

I think I've finally figured how JOB determines the rotation, he's got this 8 ball that's magic and answers questions for him. He traded his hairline for it.

I think many on here wish this was his "thinking".

pacer4ever
01-19-2011, 08:00 PM
how sweet would it be to see Josh go off and have like 20 points and 15 rebounds tonight?

i doubt he could even do that in his dreams

pwee31
01-19-2011, 08:04 PM
how sweet would it be to see Josh go off and have like 20 points and 15 rebounds tonight?

It would be pretty sweet, but likely just means Hansbrough goes back to being the odd man out :confused:

Trophy
01-19-2011, 08:08 PM
I'm excited to see how Tyler and Josh do well playing together at the same time.

Josh must be aggressive which he is.

We're not facing any dangerous big men tonight so both guys can take advantage and play well.

David Lee is decent and they can't sleep on him on the defensive end because he will score, but other than that, he's not going to be a huge threat.

Trophy
01-19-2011, 08:09 PM
It would be pretty sweet, but likely just means Hansbrough goes back to being the odd man out :confused:

Of course.

In Jim O'Brien land, there is no reason to have 2 actual PFs playing the rotation.

Not only that, no young, core guys in a rotation together sharing time.

We need small ball and a veteran in that mix.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 08:25 PM
Why didn't he start against Griffin??

I think I've finally figured how JOB determines the rotation, he's got this 8 ball that's magic and answers questions for him. He traded his hairline for it.

Since the Knicks game this has been our relatively consistent rotation.


Obriens preferred 9 man rotation:
George
foster
Ford
Rush
Collison
Ganger
Hansborough
Dunleavy
Hibbert

10th man
Posey or Mcroberts depending on wether we go small ball. Posey replaces granger if we are small and Josh appears to be the backup traditional 4.

Centers
We have three players that only play center and Josh seems to be below all three in the pecking order:
1 Hibbert
2 Foster
3 Solo
4 Josh

Not sure Why Josh leapfrogs tonight, but I don't know who the Golden State starting center is either. The comment about consistent lineups a poster mentioned earlier does make sense. The magic eightball smear, however is very unoriginal.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 08:28 PM
Of course.

In Jim O'Brien land, there is no reason to have 2 actual PFs playing the rotation.

Not only that, no young, core guys in a rotation together sharing time.

We need small ball and a veteran in that mix.

So are Hibbert, Collison and Hansboro not young? Looks like three young guys regularly starting to me, 4 tonight.

Trophy
01-19-2011, 08:31 PM
So are Hibbert, Collison and Hansboro not young? Looks like three young guys regularly starting to me, 4 tonight.

In a position rotation is what I meant.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 08:45 PM
In a position rotation is what I meant.

Then I assume your unhappy about Josh, AJ and Stephenson; everyone else is in the rotation.

Josh's situation is confusing .

AJ and Stephenson are our 3/4 string point guards, they are a second round rookie and second year, second round draft pic. I am not saying TJ is better than price but it is debatable and you can't condemn somebody for disagreeing with you.

No formulas, nothing crazy, just players getting beat for jobs wether you agree with the coaches evaluation or not.

Sookie
01-19-2011, 09:07 PM
Then I assume your unhappy about Josh, AJ and Stephenson; everyone else is in the rotation.

Josh's situation is confusing .

AJ and Stephenson are our 3/4 string point guards, they are a second round rookie and second year, second round draft pic. I am not saying TJ is better than price but it is debatable and you can't condemn somebody for disagreeing with you.

No formulas, nothing crazy, just players getting beat for jobs wether you agree with the coaches evaluation or not.

It's not debatable. It's actually hilarious that people think it's debatable. And that's not even saying Price is good..he's just clearly better than TJ.

Stephenson..is probably not ready. But I do have a problem with not playing him for defensive reasons. This is the same coach that played Troy 35 MPG and is playing Dun 30. Defense is obviously not part of the criteria for playing time.

90'sNBARocked
01-19-2011, 09:19 PM
Im not dissin Jim, I would honestly like to know why he chose to start McBob over Foster? Since Foster is the primary back up C in the rotation you would think he should start. I dont know for sure, but Im guessing that Jim wants to see the Tyler/McBob combo.

I think Jim's idea is to keep all the players on their toes as one never knows the rotation with Jim. If true this can be either good or bad depending on the player

90'sNBARocked
01-19-2011, 09:22 PM
I am just excited to see the Pacers play, going to the game tonight at the Oracle. $10 dollar tickets. I was hoping to see Big Roy, but I will take what I can get!

Represent kid!!!

Since it's been done to us at Conseco, if we start wining begin a "MVP chant" except dont say a Pacer name just say no one, since no one is really worthy

Trophy
01-19-2011, 09:24 PM
Then I assume your unhappy about Josh, AJ and Stephenson; everyone else is in the rotation.

Josh's situation is confusing .

AJ and Stephenson are our 3/4 string point guards, they are a second round rookie and second year, second round draft pic. I am not saying TJ is better than price but it is debatable and you can't condemn somebody for disagreeing with you.

No formulas, nothing crazy, just players getting beat for jobs wether you agree with the coaches evaluation or not.

What are you talking about?

I never said anything like that.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 09:26 PM
It's not debatable. It's actually hilarious that people think it's debatable. And that's not even saying Price is good..he's just clearly better than TJ.

Stephenson..is probably not ready. But I do have a problem with not playing him for defensive reasons. This is the same coach that played Troy 35 MPG and is playing Dun 30. Defense is obviously not part of the criteria for playing time.

I actually like what I have seen of price, I just don't think it is ridiculous to consider that Tj may have earned the backup job without favoritism. Tj isn't as bad as people make him out to be.

90'sNBARocked
01-19-2011, 09:27 PM
It's not debatable. It's actually hilarious that people think it's debatable. And that's not even saying Price is good..he's just clearly better than TJ.

Stephenson..is probably not ready. But I do have a problem with not playing him for defensive reasons. This is the same coach that played Troy 35 MPG and is playing Dun 30. Defense is obviously not part of the criteria for playing time.

The thing is whether you think AJ is better than TJ or vice versa, give them an equal opportunity. I could see if TJ was lights out or something but he is not. I remember commenting earlier this season that TJ was playing great ball (and I think he was early) but the last month or so he has reverted right back to the TJ we have all grown to hate. Does AJ get even a shot? Lance even? I can see why Lance hasnt got any burn, but AJ deserves to compete.

Of course Jim would rationalize this by saying how TJ "knows the system best"

Insert frustrating curse here

PacerGuy
01-19-2011, 09:44 PM
This is a showcase for Josh! ;)

pacer4ever
01-19-2011, 09:47 PM
I actually like what I have seen of price, I just don't think it is ridiculous to consider that Tj may have earned the backup job without favoritism. Tj isn't as bad as people make him out to be.

no not really. TJ just doesnt play fundamental basketball he has 0 court vision and misses the most open layups ive ever seen. and i havent even stated the horrible TJ iso we see when he is in there and he cant shoot.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 09:50 PM
The thing is whether you think AJ is better than TJ or vice versa, give them an equal opportunity. I could see if TJ was lights out or something but he is not. I remember commenting earlier this season that TJ was playing great ball (and I think he was early) but the last month or so he has reverted right back to the TJ we have all grown to hate. Does AJ get even a shot? Lance even? I can see why Lance hasnt got any burn, but AJ deserves to compete.

Of course Jim would rationalize this by saying how TJ "knows the system best"

Insert frustrating curse here

I can understand AJ's fans being frustrated.

spazzxb
01-19-2011, 09:52 PM
no not really. TJ just doesnt play fundamental basketball he has 0 court vision and misses the most open layups ive ever seen. and i havent even stated the horrible TJ iso we see when he is in there and he cant shoot.

He has accumulated assist's at a higher rate than Collison this season, so I guess he sees something.

Sookie
01-19-2011, 09:55 PM
no not really. TJ just doesnt play fundamental basketball he has 0 court vision and misses the most open layups ive ever seen. and i havent even stated the horrible TJ iso we see when he is in there and he cant shoot.

I'm starting to not blame that one on TJ though. Seeing as I've seen it from DC, AJ (I think), and DG ..... I think that's just a bad end of quarter "play"

Trophy
01-19-2011, 09:55 PM
AJ spaces the floor like Jim wants and knocks down a lot of his shot attempts.

He prefers to use a veteran to backup DC and I remember before the season started, he said it would be scary to have 2 two year players in a rotation.

McKeyFan
01-19-2011, 09:56 PM
Please Josh, have such an incredible game that:

1. The coach is forced to play you in subsequent games or
2. The coach is removed for not playing you in subsequent games

If Josh gets 20 points, 20 rebounds, he'll earn job security for about two or three games.

EDIT: If that.

Trophy
01-19-2011, 09:58 PM
no not really. TJ just doesnt play fundamental basketball he has 0 court vision and misses the most open layups ive ever seen. and i havent even stated the horrible TJ iso we see when he is in there and he cant shoot.

I just can't stand it when he tries to take the last second shot.

I cringe everytime he goes towards the basket and then fades away.

He's not an ideal PG.

pacer4ever
01-19-2011, 09:58 PM
If Josh gets 20 points, 20 rebounds, he'll earn job security for about two or three games.

EDIT: If that.

No way in hell he goes 20 and 20

McKeyFan
01-19-2011, 10:02 PM
No way in hell he goes 20 and 20
that's not the point.

Cherokee
01-19-2011, 10:35 PM
I wouldn't get too excited about Josh starting. He'll probably only play a few minutes and then disappear again until, oh, say, February.

McKeyFan
01-19-2011, 10:51 PM
I think I've finally figured how JOB determines the rotation, he's got this 8 ball that's magic and answers questions for him. He traded his hairline for it.
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xIndyFan
01-19-2011, 10:54 PM
i want 20 & 12. but would settle for doing a good job defensively. if he does that, he will get plenty of playing time. :laugh:

Trophy
01-19-2011, 10:57 PM
http://tbt.blogs.nba.com/?ls=iref:nbahpt2


Pacers center Roy Hibbert is out with flu-like symptoms. Josh McRoberts, who’s only played four total minutes in the six games since ceding the starting power forward slot to Tyler Hansbrough, will step in at center. Coach Jim O’Brien went with McRoberts over veteran Jeff Foster in part because he didn’t want to wreck his substitution rotations or tinker with the small-ball lineup — featuring Foster — that he ordinarily uses to bridge the gap between quarters.

-Both teams want to attack the other’s defense with an eye towards getting on the free-throw line. Golden State allows the most foul shots of any NBA team (29.28 attempts per contest), while Indiana is sixth-worst at 26.95

-Warriors coach Keith Smart said no amount of campaigning will put Monta Ellis, the NBA’s third-leading scorer, on the All-Star team. “You let your game speak for itself,” Smart said. “That’s what’s going to put him over the hump — maybe not this year, but next year, or after.”

-Speaking of Ellis, Brandon Rush will open on him defensively for the Pacers, with Paul George and Danny Granger also possibilities.