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avoidingtheclowns
01-14-2011, 06:10 PM
WHERE'S THE BEEF?



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Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
Where: Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
Officials: B. Delaney, M. Boland, J. Williams

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<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><TR><TD align="top"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=3>Season Records: (W-L)</TH></TR>
<TR><TD>:xpacers:</TD><TD align="middle" width="70"><CENTER>16-20</CENTER></TD><TD align="middle" width="100"><CENTER>(Home: 10-9)</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>:bulls:</TD><td align="middle" width="70"><CENTER>25-13</center></TD><TD align="middle" width="100"><CENTER>(Road: 8-10)</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>

<TD valign="bottom"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=5>Upcoming Games:</TH></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>Jan 17</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 19</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 22</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 23</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 26</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>at :clippers:</TD><TD>at :warriors:</TD><TD>at :trailblazers:</TD><TD>at :nuggets:</TD><TD>vs :magic:</TD></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>3:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>10:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>10:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>8:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>PACERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tyler_hansbrough.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/brandon_rush.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/darren_collison.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HIBBERT</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HANSBROUGH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>GRANGER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>RUSH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>COLLISON</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor= #CC0000 colSpan=6>BULLS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/kurt_thomas.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/carlos_boozer.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/luol_deng.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/keith_bogans.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/derrick_rose.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>THOMAS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BOOZER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>DENG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BOGANS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>ROSE</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=4>Semi-Relevant Trivia:</TH></TR><TR><TD>

Which Bulls coach has the<br>highest winning percentage?</TD><TD>
A. Bill Cartwright<br>B. Vinny Del Negro<br>C. Johnny Red Kerr<br>D. Scott Skiles<br>E. Jerry Sloan</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4>A. Bill Cartwright (51-100, .338)<br>B. Vinny Del Negro (82-82, .500)<br>C. Johnny Red Kerr (62-101, .380)<br>D. Scott Skiles (165-172, .490)<br>E. Jerry Sloan (94-121, .437)</TH></TR></TABLE>

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BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 06:23 PM
So is Rush the full time starter now?

pacer4ever
01-14-2011, 06:30 PM
So is Rush the full time starter now?

I hope so

I think he will guard Rose and Collison will guard Bogans

pacer4ever
01-14-2011, 06:36 PM
He had shot 8-32 (.250) 3-pt FG in his first 14 appearances.
�� He had just four steals in his first eight games in the NBA, but has collected 11 thefts in his last seven appearances. In those seven games,
he has had two turnovers, compared to seven in his first eight outings.
�� For the season, he is one of two Indiana players (along with James Posey) who has more steals (15) than turnovers (9).


I love to read this about paul really improving

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 06:39 PM
Call me crazy or call this a knee-jerk reaction, but I would have absolutely no problems with Paul George being named the full-time starter. He brings someone with ability to create for himself and for others as well as easy transition buckets, all needed. He'd have some head scratchers, but it'd be well worth it.

No complaints though.. Rush is fine and George still needs some time.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 06:45 PM
If we keep our offensive flow going and continue to defend like we've been doing, then we have a chance of beating this team.

It's hard to determine if we actually will beat this team or at least keep it close because it seems like every year it's a loss and or a blowout like against the Hawks.

We didn't have Danny playing in the first meeting this season so I think it'll at least be a closer game.

Scot Pollard
01-14-2011, 07:05 PM
its a chilly night but it looks to be a decent sized friday night crowd

last home game until after the road trip

lets get this win guys

we hate the bulls and dont let them embarrass us

Mackey_Rose
01-14-2011, 07:35 PM
So is Rush the full time starter now?

That's irrelevant.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 07:47 PM
JMV taking little shots at JOB on pre-game. I like it.

PacersPride
01-14-2011, 07:53 PM
Really look forward to the Boozer vs Hansbrough matchup. Feel like Tyler will not back down and will get up in his face and fight him for good positioning. Im not expecting Hansbrough to shut him down, but I think Hans is going to have a good game defending Booz.

I can accept the pts Rose creates for Booz, but otherwise Hans physicality should be enough to contest some of Carlos's shots.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 07:54 PM
According to Mike Wells, Tyler will be guarding Carlos Boozer.

No surprise there. JOB keeping PF on PF.

McKeyFan
01-14-2011, 07:55 PM
JMV taking little shots at JOB on pre-game. I like it.
Do tell.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 07:58 PM
Do tell.

Just preaching to the choir. They had a conversation (Kevin Lee, JMV, and Paetz) about how Hansbrough and George are coming along and JMV kept bringing up that they should have gotten these minutes all season, and that they aren't learning anything while being in suits. (That I remember specifically)

So my high opinion on JMV just went off the charts.

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 08:05 PM
No surprise there. JOB keeping PF on PF.

Actually, that's a huge surprise.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Just preaching to the choir. They had a conversation (Kevin Lee, JMV, and Paetz) about how Hansbrough and George are coming along and JMV kept bringing up that they should have gotten these minutes all season, and that they aren't learning anything while being in suits. (That I remember specifically)

So my high opinion on JMV just went off the charts.

JMV also seemed to take a few shots at JOB in his interview with Paul George the other day. It is on 1070's website for those who want to hear it.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Nice BLK ROY!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Well........... Collison is back to being a shooting guard.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:16 PM
Team has nice energy so far!

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:17 PM
Nice Tyler!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:17 PM
Lets go SON!

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:18 PM
Looks like the plan is to attack Boozer on defense. I like it.

NapTonius Monk
01-14-2011, 08:18 PM
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Gosh! Dick Versace makes me :puke:

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Tyler is knocking em down son!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:20 PM
Roy Hibbert looking like a sloth.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:20 PM
He has a tough match up against Boozer though. He taking that mid-range shot, that should be there all night...

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:21 PM
Tyler is looking good, time for Jim to bench him...........

Trophy
01-14-2011, 08:21 PM
Tyler's been great offensively, but he can't let Boozer get by him.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:23 PM
Tyler is looking good, time for Jim to bench him...........

Your right, but Mcbob is in, not sure how you feel about that?

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:23 PM
Nice Boozer with 2 fouls, take a seat!

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:23 PM
Your right, but Mcbob is in, not sure you feel about that?

I feel good about that, 100 times better than bringing Posey

MiaDragon
01-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Roy Hibbert looking like a sloth.

Two or three toed?

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Aiight DC!

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:26 PM
I don't like this line-up at all!

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:26 PM
Dunleavy on Deng is asking for something bad to happen.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:27 PM
Defense is looking like complete ****.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Gibson is killing us!

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Nice shot by Dunleavy from half court lol

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:28 PM
I'm sorry but McRoberts is having the definition of a ****ty game.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:29 PM
Gibson is killing us!

No he isn't. The defense has to collapse and help on Rose and Deng which is why Gibson is wide open.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:29 PM
Two or three toed?

Which ever one plays the worse defense.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:29 PM
I thought Tyler was doing bad on defense .... then it got worse.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:30 PM
I'm sorry but McRoberts is having the definition of a ****ty game.

I know he gets a lot of love here, but I just don't see it on the court. I know his playing time as been down, but you are 100% about the way he is playing right now!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:30 PM
Chicago is just a bad match up for us. We could use some more Paul George and Tyler Hansbrough along with DRose with some rest on the bench.

Pacemaker
01-14-2011, 08:31 PM
PG in !!!:dance:

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:32 PM
Well, for the second consecutive time, Foster and Rush can't do a simple handoff.

BlueNGold
01-14-2011, 08:32 PM
McBob is showing some rust. But the jury is now in. Tyler is better. A lot better.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:33 PM
Nice Brush

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:33 PM
ok so now its Josh's turn to be active

does this guy really just throw darts at a board to determine whos active

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:34 PM
McBob is showing some rust. But the jury is now in. Tyler is better. A lot better.

+1

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:34 PM
McBob is showing some rust. But the jury is now in. Tyler is better. A lot better.

better at somethings, not all

I think each brings different skills

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:34 PM
I wouldn't have minded seeing Dhantay Jones being activated for a game like this. I think he would probably be our best defender on a guy like Rose.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 08:35 PM
Lets hope they dont open a can of scalabrine *** whooping on us.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 08:35 PM
We need to get Roy and Tyler back in.

They're our best options to defend the paint.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:36 PM
**** it Granger.. Stupid foul.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:37 PM
I wouldn't have minded seeing Dhantay Jones being activated for a game like this. I think he would probably be our best defender on a guy like Rose.

I'd rather give Paul George a shot.

Dahntay isn't much bigger, and is much slower.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:37 PM
Wow. And that was a pitiful call.

Wylder1324
01-14-2011, 08:38 PM
Broken record here I know but WTF Im just getting so sick of these mystery rotations.....first of all Im not an avid fan of the way JOB has diff guys on the inactive list every game anyway but if your going to play it that way.....why not have Dahntay active to match up with Rose some.....if nothing else as an experiment, I mean hell its obvious that Collison/Ford aren't going to be able to contain him with their smallish stature......maybe he is going to put Lance on him with size.....but supposedly Lance's biggest gripe is his defense so....that doesn't really ad up either...... Im dumbfounded.......

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:38 PM
Wow. And that was a pitiful call.

Mother****ing bump.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:38 PM
I'd rather give Paul George a shot.

Dahntay isn't much bigger, and is much slower.

That scares me. George is athletic, but inexperienced. I have bad visions of George picking up 3 fouls in 1 minute on Rose.

Everyone is slower than Rose on the Pacers, but unlike Collison and Ford Jones is athletic and strong. Oh well though, won't happen.

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 08:38 PM
Ford must HATE George.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:39 PM
Paul George officially had an affair with TJ Ford's girl or something. He won't pass to him at all.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:39 PM
Broken record here I know but WTF Im just getting so sick of these mystery rotations.....first of all Im not an avid fan of the way JOB has diff guys on the inactive list every game anyway but if your going to play it that way.....why not have Dahntay active to match up with Rose some.....if nothing else as an experiment, I mean hell its obvious that Collison/Ford aren't going to be able to contain him with their smallish stature......maybe he is going to put Lance on him with size.....but supposedly Lance's biggest gripe is his defense so....that doesn't really ad up either...... Im dumbfounded.......

Aloha bra! I use to live there, miss it!

Wylder1324
01-14-2011, 08:39 PM
Paul George on Rose ? No thanks.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:39 PM
TJ Ford plays absolutely no defense.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Looks like a long quarter for the Pacers. The perimiter defense looks god awful and the Bulls are already in the bonus. If we are within 10 at the half I will take it.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:40 PM
I agree George could get abused, but I think it would be interesting. If it doesn't work you'll know in 1 or 2 possessions because they'll go to it. Either way, I think it would be interesting.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Foster should just go poop his pants.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Damn Foster is sucking a$$

Wylder1324
01-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Odeez - Back atcha man

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 08:41 PM
There it is again, george by the basket, and tj just shuts him out, TJ is hurting the team.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:41 PM
We have basically gone to crap since the second unit came in, energy gone!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Hibbert. Turns. The. Ball. Over. So. Much.

:laugh:

NapTonius Monk
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Two or three toed?
:laugh:

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
things look very tense between the players, especially Danny and Roy, makes u wonder....

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
I don't care if it costs us a win or two (or three), I want to see Paul George getting steady minutes the rest of the season. He is the future, and I want to see what he can do. He seems to pick things up quickly.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Wow, Asik and Gibson are camping in the lane waiting for Indiana's terrible perimeter defense to break down and Hibbert gets a3 second call by having his left toe in the lane for too long. Solid.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
I hope O'Brien ignores TJ Ford since he basically owns the crap out of Rose. Rose even admitted, out of every player in the NBA, Ford plays him the best.

Source: RealGm Bulls board

Wylder1324
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Dahntay is def not a "floor spreader" but the guy can play D.....people were complaining cause he was getting abused by the Carmello types, but that isn't where he excels, its against the bigger PGs and SGs that Dahntay is really on point.....so why not use the guy you signed for his defensive intensity......for just that ?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:43 PM
TJ Ford plays absolutely no defense.

...Bump...

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:44 PM
Come on Jim, give the keys back to Darren, take TJ out

Stuckey7370
01-14-2011, 08:44 PM
Hibbert. Turns. The. Ball. Over. So. Much.

:laugh:

I think that was more Ford just standing there watching him bump in the post. Then allowing Watson to go straight to the basket on the other end.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:44 PM
I don't care if it costs us a win or two (or three), I want to see Paul George getting steady minutes the rest of the season. He is the future, and I want to see what he can do. He seems to pick things up quickly.

I don't think that would cost us any games at all. A little bit of Paul from here on out (on a consistent basis) would do the team a lot of good.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Source: RealGm Bulls board

was the guy name Flox?

Trophy
01-14-2011, 08:46 PM
Source: RealGm Bulls board

Good then DC will be a shocking surprise for Derrick Rose and the Bulls.

TJ is horrible. I'd be more worried playing against DC than TJ.

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:46 PM
I don't think that would cost us any games at all. A little bit of Paul from here on out (on a consistent basis) would do the team a lot of good.

Yeah, I don't think it would either. I want 20+ mpg the rest of the season for him. Which I guess means I am endorsing small ball (which I do, for this team).

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:46 PM
I would love to hear Rose's explanation on why TJ plays him the best

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
wtf was that ford???????

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
I don't care if it costs us a win or two (or three), I want to see Paul George getting steady minutes the rest of the season. He is the future, and I want to see what he can do. He seems to pick things up quickly.

Amen.

And TJ should seriously consider requesting a buy-out.. I wanted to say something much more gruesome, but that would be inappropriate.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Wow, you see Denari's game notes, that guy is on top of things!

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
TJ misses a layup. In other news the sun came up and the grass is green.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Good then DC will be a shocking surprise for Derrick Rose and the Bulls.

TJ is horrible. I'd be more worried playing against DC than TJ.

its odd bro but check the stats . TJ plays very well against the Bulls

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:48 PM
**** it Hibbert.. He's never going to get better.

NapTonius Monk
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
If this man doesn't start dunking the **** ball. Come on Roy!

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Amen.

And TJ should seriously consider requesting a buy-out.. I wanted to say something much more gruesome, but that would be inappropriate.

You were with me, the whole time. :laugh:

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Yep after three weeks TJ still sucks

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Is Granger just uncapable of posting up?

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Pacers are currently self destructing.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
ROY blowing it, don't make me change my Avatar!

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Wow Hibbert, you're big for no damn reason.

Might as well be 6'2

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Geez, listening to some of you guys, you'd think we were Cleveland playing against the Lakers.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Indiana Pacers = consistently inconsistent

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:51 PM
Geez, listening to some of you guys, you'd think we were Cleveland playing against the Lakers.

:blush: That would be me. :laugh:

spazzxb
01-14-2011, 08:51 PM
was the guy name Flox?Why you have to take pot shots at people?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Dunleavy is shooting the ball an awful lot.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:52 PM
jumpshot after jump shot after jump shot

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:52 PM
In two years, they will call that foul for Paul George.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 08:53 PM
PG24 is tooooo quick, now if he could explode on the finish.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:54 PM
Why you have to take pot shots at people?

Because I'm a hater .....

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 08:54 PM
I really want to see George dunk in traffic. Really, really want to.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:54 PM
Wow is Kenny Mauer, Joey Crawford, and Violet Palmer officiating this game? Geez.

McKeyFan
01-14-2011, 08:54 PM
Why you have to take pot shots at people?

Flox is an alien.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Holy crap we can't rebound.

spazzxb
01-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Because I'm a hater ..... At least you own it. You should put that in you title so noone gets confused.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Paul goes for the steal, and then recovers to still keep Deng out of the lane.

He's fast enough to guard Rose I think. He did a good job keeping CP3 in front of him.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Holy CRAP Paul George he shook the heck out of Korver.

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:57 PM
PG with razzle dazzle!

joew8302
01-14-2011, 08:57 PM
Whoa! George off of the dribble looks smooth! If Chicago wants to put Korver on George I wouldn't mind taking advantage of that.

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:57 PM
You can tell Paul George is getting much more comfortable out there.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 08:58 PM
judging by the crowd reaction you would think this game is being played at the United Center

:(

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 08:58 PM
HANSBROUGH!

WOW

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Layin after layin missed.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 08:58 PM
At least you own it. You should put that in you title so noone gets confused.

I don't have too, I will just wait for you to call me one. Because a hater is always a hater right?

odeez
01-14-2011, 08:58 PM
DG come on!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 08:59 PM
The more and more I watch Danny the more I begin to believe that he is going to be easily replaced by George in a couple years.

cdash
01-14-2011, 08:59 PM
I don't have too, I will just wait for you to call me one. Because a hater is always a hater right?

A zebra can't change his stripes.

Pacemaker
01-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Pacers are stone cold!

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:00 PM
impending blow out in 3..2..1

Chicago just has our number, maybe Lance will get his first action of the season

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:00 PM
3-17 from the field for the quarter so far. Ouch.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:00 PM
our youth is showing

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Pacers might be the worst team in the league at finishing around the rim.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:00 PM
They're playing like they're sleeping.

Wake up!

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:01 PM
The more and more I watch Danny the more I begin to believe that he is going to be easily replaced by George in a couple years.

Yeah, and the more I watch Paul George the more I think he was drafted as a Granger replacement, not a Granger running mate.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 09:01 PM
A zebra can't change his stripes.

Well you did, now you don't like Jim ;)

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:01 PM
Pacers might be the worst team in the league at finishing around the rim.

Actually, we're 27th.

Beast!

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Chicago's D just shuts us down man. We have no one attacking the rim

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:03 PM
this is bad

fie obie at halftime :)

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:03 PM
Yeah, and the more I watch Paul George the more I think he was drafted as a Granger replacement, not a Granger running mate.

Granger is just a lazy player. Doesn't play defense, takes bad shots, etc. He was looking better but it got worse and worse. Like right there; Danny didn't go out and get the ball, he made the big pass into traffic.

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Well you did, now you don't like Jim ;)

First, it wasn't clear that was a joke. It was.

Second, I never really liked Jim per se, but I didn't think he was the worst coach on earth (and still don't). But I am through defending him because I have seen the same song and dance out of him and his teams for more than 3 years now. He is what he is. Not changing his stripes anytime soon :laugh:

McKeyFan
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Dun does all the little things that don't show up on the stat sheet.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Granger has as much fire as a guy who found out his dog died.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
this is a pathetic effort

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
We aren't playing hard.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Indiana is being completely outclassed by Chicago in just about every area. This is ugly.

odeez
01-14-2011, 09:05 PM
PG should have taken that shot! And then he does!

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:05 PM
Granger is just a lazy player. Doesn't play defense, takes bad shots, etc. He was looking better but it got worse and worse. Like right there; Danny didn't go out and get the ball, he made the big pass into traffic.

Yeah, he doesn't have a "high motor", which is a shame. I am open to the idea of trading him if we can get back a good package. I know it won't happen this season, and I'm guessing next season won't happen, so when we get back to playing basketball, Danny will be what, 30? Ehh...

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:05 PM
There is very little player movement in the halfcourt offense. Not a good sign.

tora tora
01-14-2011, 09:05 PM
get this piece of **** lineup off the floor

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:06 PM
get it to 10 fellas

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:06 PM
Good damn defense, Collison.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:07 PM
Yeah, he doesn't have a "high motor", which is a shame. I am open to the idea of trading him if we can get back a good package. I know it won't happen this season, and I'm guessing next season won't happen, so when we get back to playing basketball, Danny will be what, 30? Ehh...

Exactly. I tried to start a thread about being open to trading Granger about 3 weeks ago and people acted like I was crazy. Looks like others are starting to come around to the idea lately.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:07 PM
I think it will be real telling to see how they come out of the half

lets see if they have any heart

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 09:07 PM
Shots just aren't dropping. Maybe Jim actually practiced lay ups the players would know what to do when they see the rim. . .

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 09:08 PM
Exactly. I tried to start a thread about being open to trading Granger about 3 weeks ago and people acted like I was crazy. Looks like others are starting to come around to the idea lately.

I'm not a big fan of it because I don't think you could get anything back that would be better, but George the last few games as really started to change my mind. . .

spazzxb
01-14-2011, 09:08 PM
I don't have too, I will just wait for you to call me one. Because a hater is always a hater right?

Since your asking for it: I rarely call anyone anything, but you are reminding me why you were the most visible antagonist around here for a while. If I was going to call anyones presence here as acting like a straight up hater, it was probably you. So where did you go anyway?

Back to the game:
So, people happy with the lineup tonight. I know some don't like foster, TJ, and Dunleavy, but all the young guys except Lance and AJ are playing

Doddage
01-14-2011, 09:09 PM
We should just let Paul create offense. He's the only one that's doing anything for us.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:10 PM
I'm not a big fan of it because I don't think you could get anything back that would be better, but George the last few games as really started to change my mind. . .

Obviously the package would have to be right. I would just think that with the ages of George and Collison as well as the play of Danny he is more "on the market" and "tradeable" than he has ever been as a Pacer.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:10 PM
Yeah, he doesn't have a "high motor", which is a shame. I am open to the idea of trading him if we can get back a good package. I know it won't happen this season, and I'm guessing next season won't happen, so when we get back to playing basketball, Danny will be what, 30? Ehh...

Exactly. I love Flox's idea of trading him for some VERY nice pieces right now even though it is nothing more than wishful thinking.. That would make this team much better.

Granger's biggest flaws are lack of moving without the ball, no high motor, lack of athleticism, lack of commitment to team ball, and he has no playmaking ability. It gets frustrating.

Asteezy
01-14-2011, 09:10 PM
Granger has been woeful! Heres hoping for a Lance sighting in the 2nd half!

TheDon
01-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Man this is painful in section 7 at conseco feels like I'm sitting in chicago, this blows. Also roy fell down one time in the 4th and he didn't even try to get back up the floor looked like he was pouting ever since.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:13 PM
The offense needs to slow down and not settle for a poor shot.

Roy might be the best option when scoring around the rim.

The guys aren't focused defensively either.

Unclebuck
01-14-2011, 09:13 PM
Wow, I am extremely impressed by the Bulls - they are incredibly well coached. They are physical on both ends of the court, they have a clear sense as to what they are trying to do. There are more talented teams in the NBA for sure, but not sure I have seen a team that is as well coached.

If the Bulls play that well in the second half Pacers have no chance.

Love the way they play

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Exactly. I love Flox's idea of trading him for some VERY nice pieces right now even though it is nothing more than wishful thinking.. That would make this team much better.

Granger's biggest flaws are lack of moving without the ball, no high motor, lack of athleticism, lack of commitment to team ball, and he has no playmaking ability. It gets frustrating.

I think he's athletic enough and he can be a good passer. The problem is he doesn't have the ball handles to take people off the dribble consistently and would be a much better player if he moved without the ball. It seems like he hardly gets plays run for him which I really don't understand. His all star season he got to the rim at will and got fouled a lot, which has been missing since that season.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:16 PM
REAL ORGAN!

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 09:16 PM
Exactly. I love Flox's idea of trading him for some VERY nice pieces right now even though it is nothing more than wishful thinking.. That would make this team much better.

Granger's biggest flaws are lack of moving without the ball, no high motor, lack of athleticism, lack of commitment to team ball, and he has no playmaking ability. It gets frustrating.

I been saying forever that he is our own Rashard Lewis.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:16 PM
The offense needs to slow down and not settle for a poor shot.

Roy might be the best option when scoring around the rim.

The guys aren't focused defensively either.

Roy has not been a good option for over a month.

Stuckey7370
01-14-2011, 09:18 PM
I feel like they came out really strong, but the air went out with the second unit and the starters never gained the momentum back.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:18 PM
Roy has not been a good option for over a month.

He's been better in the past few games.

No one else is cutting it for us.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:18 PM
would you trade Granger/Jones for a package of Favors, number 1 and filler?

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:19 PM
I would welcome a granger trade if we could get a top 5 pick for him, would really like to be in the top 3 picks. But he just isnt an active star in this league, he is really quiet personality wise, and some youth, and a great pick could really be the shot in the arm we need.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:19 PM
would you trade Granger/Jones for a package of Favors, number 1 and filler?


In a heart beat, I would even let them pick the filler.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:21 PM
We can contain the Bulls offensively and defensively.

The problem with this team is if they start to slip a little they completely get careless and fall apart. When it rains it pours.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Hip hop is ruining america

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:22 PM
He's been better in the past few games.

No one else is cutting it for us.

Including Hibbert. Our scoring in the paint has been bad as you alluded to, but Hibbert has been part of the problem, not the solution.

McKeyFan
01-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Tyler 11 minutes. Roy 12 minutes.

I don't think that cuts it.

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Lots of Bulls fans there huh? That's dissapointing, but not surprising. Hopefully they can come back out better in the 2nd half, body language definetly looked bad there at the end.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:23 PM
Hip hop is ruining america

I'm willing to bet people said that about Rock and Roll a long time ago. :laugh:

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:24 PM
Granger is a lot like Antawn Jamison or Fatoine, but still much better. I rich man's version.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:24 PM
Really Granger? C'mon.

Paul George please.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Granger has not looked to be aggressive all night on offense. He just settles for jumpers.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:25 PM
anyone else think we should sit Granger now for George (tonights game)

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:26 PM
Okay, I've had enough of these soft *** missed layups.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:26 PM
no heart tonight Pacers

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:26 PM
Granger is not endearing himself to me. People ***** about Dunleavy being a chucker, but Danny is a lot worse than Mike.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:27 PM
anyone else think we should sit Granger now for George (tonights game)

That is a tad extreme. Give them both minutes.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Holy **** a Granger sighting. Nice of you to join us.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:28 PM
well, we are taking it up the ***.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:28 PM
That is a tad extreme. Give them both minutes.

i mean just tonight , if only to send a message

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:29 PM
damit tyler quit holding the ball!

Roy was open

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:30 PM
damit tyler quit holding the ball!

Roy was open

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:30 PM
Hansbrough so got fouled. Then he hit Bogans and fouled him hard.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:30 PM
Good god, I know Rose is a star, but that gives him the right to run into jump shooters?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:30 PM
Paul George sits.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:31 PM
Paul George sits.

of course he was productive

Mr_Smith
01-14-2011, 09:31 PM
I am currently missing the game b/c I am out and about, but I'm checking the score.....what the hell is going on????

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:32 PM
Jeff Foster isn't playing very hard.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:32 PM
Rose runs into Hans, no call. And then Boozer gets a touch foul. Beautiful.

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:32 PM
I really like Granger, he's a good guy to have on the team, but he seems very similar to Reshard Lewis.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:32 PM
Well this team can suck my dick for not playing hard tonight.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:32 PM
I guess Collison isn't good enough to be allowed to run into jump shooters and get away with it.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:33 PM
I am not even mad this game. Bulls are just head and shoulders better than us. Like Atlanta they are a match up nightmare

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:34 PM
Well this team can suck my dick for not playing hard tonight.

easy, player

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:34 PM
Wow, that MVP chant is sickening.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:34 PM
Who the heck is buying that Pacer hoop set?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:35 PM
I am not even mad this game. Bulls are just head and shoulders better than us. Like Atlanta they are a match up nightmare

There's a difference though. Hibbert could have actually tried today, and Collison doesn't have to play like a pansy anytime he plays an All-Star point guard, and Danny can stop being lazy. Had they came out like this game actually mattered I'd agree with you.

TJ Ford also doesn't play defense and he consistently sucks.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:35 PM
easy, player

:-p yeah, it wasn't neccessary. But game threads are the place for hyperbole.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:36 PM
Wow, that MVP chant is sickening.

of corse ,

no respect in our house. Man I miss the days when teams were nervous to come to MSA

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:36 PM
I hate the Bulls and everything about them.

I'm so sick of the same performance and losses to the Bulls.

There is no reason for this wimpy, careless performance.

Make these free throws Danny. I used to trust you more at the free throw, but I don't know anymore.

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:36 PM
:-p yeah, it wasn't neccessary. But game threads are the place for hyperbole.

Yeah, it was. I laughed my *** off.

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:37 PM
I hate the Bulls and everything about them.

I'm so sick of the same performance and losses to the Bulls.

There is no reason for this wimpy, careless performance.

Make these free throws Danny. I used to trust you more at the free throw, but I don't know anymore.

I'll go a step further: I hate the city of Chicago.

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah, it was. I laughed my *** off.

:happydanc

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:37 PM
:-p yeah, it wasn't neccessary. But game threads are the place for hyperbole.

It didnt bother me, but we have some children on the board ( I wont mention names) lol

:)

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Thank God Granger showing some life. Foster looking older than Betty White though.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:38 PM
This is one of those games were TJ deserves more minutes than DC

Marlin
01-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Wow, that MVP chant is sickening.

Every time a superstar comes into Conseco, there come those chants. It's getting beyond ridiculous.

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:39 PM
seriously does TJ have beef with George?

Its like the MJ freeze out in the all star game

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:39 PM
Get him Foster!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:39 PM
Why is PG getting froze out?

Sookie
01-14-2011, 09:39 PM
Why do we play TJ Ford?

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
come on with that jeff, ****!

tora tora
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
here comes posey to save the day

righteouscool
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
How many times is George going to be open and be ignored?! Obnoxious.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
"What's up with that, Jeff?"

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
Awww Jeff, don't hurt Derrick.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
Posey is getting ready people, we are coming back :dance:

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
Can we get it under 8?

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:40 PM
here comes posey to save the day

Thank God. I was getting worried.

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
of corse ,

no respect in our house. Man I miss the days when teams were nervous to come to MSA

Where's Area55 to counteract those chants?

90'sNBARocked
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
aw (*&&^^ Posey is in

go get ur gunz

Marlin
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
Pass the ball to George on the fastbreak, you idiot!

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
I ****ing hate TJ Ford. He froze him out worse than Isaiah did MJ. Then gives DRose a free bucket.

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
A Posey sighting. Jim must feel this game is already out of hand.

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
Are you fist ****ing me TJ? Get the **** out of here you twat. I have seen enough of your bull ****. **** off you little troll.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 09:41 PM
TJ is just such a beast, thanks god we have him.......

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:42 PM
TJ Ford is annoying to watch.

Asteezy
01-14-2011, 09:42 PM
If granger going 4-18 or whatever it is isnt bad enough, i see posey checking in! urgh

joew8302
01-14-2011, 09:42 PM
Someone tell TJ he can't go under screens when guarding Rose. The bball IQ of this team leaves much to be desired.

Stuckey7370
01-14-2011, 09:42 PM
Who doesn't love the TJ Ford dribble show. That's what all the people from Chicago came to see, Right?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:43 PM
Are you fist ****ing me TJ? Get the **** out of here you twat. I have seen enough of your bull ****. **** off you little troll.

Yes, he is doing all of those things. He's pathetic.

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:43 PM
Play Lance Stephenson, i don't care how bad he plays. I don't want to watch anymore TJ Ford.

Trophy
01-14-2011, 09:44 PM
I really can't stand TJ.

He's such a little ball hog and always wants to beat the buzzer and be some kind of hero.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:44 PM
Collison's defense on Rose has been head and shoulders above TJ Ford today.

BornReady#6
01-14-2011, 09:44 PM
Foster with 12 boards, uh oh!

PaceBalls
01-14-2011, 09:44 PM
I can't watch anymore... the Pacers are completely outclassed in this game. TJ Ford is so bad, why? WHY THE HELL IS HE PLAYING??

:banghead:

cdash
01-14-2011, 09:46 PM
Okay, I'm gonna say it: I don't think Roy Hibbert is good.

vnzla81
01-14-2011, 09:46 PM
So Tyler did a decent job before and now he is sitting on the bench?

BringJackBack
01-14-2011, 09:47 PM
I've had enough of TJ, Roy, and TJ this year. Oh yeah I forgot to mention I'm sick of TJ.

tora tora
01-14-2011, 09:47 PM
Hibbert's soft, dunk the damn ball. :banghead:

rock747
01-14-2011, 09:47 PM
Seriously what does TJ Ford have to do to get O'brien to take him out of the game?

BlueNGold
01-14-2011, 09:47 PM
Rose is a good example of how much it helps to pick at the top of the draft board.

xBulletproof
01-14-2011, 09:47 PM
Collison - Hibbert - Granger

6 made shots, 31 shots take.

Ouch.