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Jermaine_TR
01-12-2011, 11:52 AM
Do yall guys really considering this? this is ridiculous.. let me give a example. everybody says this season is the most improved season of the Hibbert. Okay well, take look at his statistics;

13.1 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.8 BPG, 2.3 Turnover.

And now, take look at Jermaine's worst season 2006-2007. (i didnt type 07-08 season because that year jermaine's trade season and he didnt play half of the season games and didnt begin as a starter.)

19.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 2.4 APG, 2.6 BPG, 2.9 Turnover.

Everything is clear, Hibbert Will NOT be a Jermaine O'Neal ever. Mr. Genius Larry Bird was wrong.. sorry guys. O'Neal and Miller gone, pacers done.. im very very sorry about it, im a pacers fan too.

Thoughts?

Shade
01-12-2011, 12:00 PM
Who has said Roy will ever be as good as an in-his-prime JO?

Hicks
01-12-2011, 12:14 PM
Why anyone would register on a Pacers forum in January of 2011 to start a campaign for Jermaine O'Neal in beyond me. Returning member, perhaps?

daschysta
01-12-2011, 12:17 PM
Roy is only in his 3rd year, and is in a slump right now. Offensively the Roy from early in the season is just about as useful as JO was, meaning we can run a post offense through him and expect him not to take low percentage fade-aways. I believe his offensive potential dwarfs oneals, even if he scores fewer points. Keep in mind that Roy is adjusting to his new body too, and has alot of room to improve.

I think he can end up being superior on offense to JO between his post play and his passing (which is way better than Jermaine's ever was), and be less impactful on defense, but still good. Centers also typically take longer to adjust than other players, and JO had years in portland, practicing and improving to hone his skills.

Give roy some time, one thing I do know, is that whatever potential Roy has, he is likely to reach and is credit to his amazing work ethic.

pacer4ever
01-12-2011, 12:20 PM
Dude JO missed how many games?

pacer4ever
01-12-2011, 12:21 PM
Who has said Roy will ever be as good as an in-his-prime JO?

no 1

Jermaine_TR
01-12-2011, 12:24 PM
Dude JO missed how many games?

When? what you mean..

Mackey_Rose
01-12-2011, 12:26 PM
I love JO. I think he is the 2nd best NBA Pacer player ever.

But this makes no sense.

Strummer
01-12-2011, 12:31 PM
The question really is: Who would you take today between today's Jermaine and Roy?

No one would take today's Jermaine over Roy.

That's why Larry's trade was brilliant. And Roy will only get better.

Speed
01-12-2011, 12:33 PM
I am completely indifferent to JO. The good and bad with him just make me not care.

graphic-er
01-12-2011, 12:34 PM
I think a more apt question to pose, is will Hibbert ever be as good as Rik Smits?

Jermaine_TR
01-12-2011, 12:35 PM
The question really is: Who would you take today between today's Jermaine and Roy?

No one would take today's Jermaine over Roy.

That's why Larry's trade was brilliant. And Roy will only get better.

Cause Jermaine is 32, Hibbert is 24. Got that?

Mackey_Rose
01-12-2011, 12:36 PM
Cause Jermaine is 32, Hibbert is 24. Got that?

Yeah he does. Do you?

Jermaine_TR
01-12-2011, 12:38 PM
Yeah he does. Do you?

Im 18 what about you big fella?

PacerPenguins
01-12-2011, 12:40 PM
Im 18 what about you big fella?

wat pacer fan is so fascinated by oneal...one who doesnt know what hes talking about

thewholefnshow31
01-12-2011, 12:40 PM
Do yall guys really considering this? this is ridiculous.. let me give a example. everybody says this season is the most improved season of the Hibbert. Okay well, take look at his statistics;

13.1 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.8 BPG, 2.3 Turnover.

And now, take look at Jermaine's worst season 2006-2007. (i didnt type 07-08 season because that year jermaine's trade season and he didnt play half of the season games and didnt begin as a starter.)

19.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 2.4 APG, 2.6 BPG, 2.9 Turnover.

Everything is clear, Hibbert Will NOT be a Jermaine O'Neal ever. Mr. Genius Larry Bird was wrong.. sorry guys. O'Neal and Miller gone, pacers done.. im very very sorry about it, im a pacers fan too.

Thoughts?

So you are comparing JO's 10th season in the NBA and Hibbert's 3rd season in the NBA. That seems like a completely fair comparison. :rolleyes:

I do not think anyone is really saying that Hibbert will be better then JO. People talk that Hibbert has the potential to be a great player, but he still has a lot of developing to do.

Brad8888
01-12-2011, 12:42 PM
Hibbert simply doesn't have the agility and overall power that the healthy JO had in his prime IMO.

Unfortunately, Roy, without significant help from an actual big man coach on an ongoing basis, will not be able to carry the same load offensively or defensively that JO did at his best. And, even with the help of such a coach I am not sure he would ever be able to physically handle such a load.

I am a bigger fan of Roy than I ever was of JO, though.

spreedom
01-12-2011, 12:43 PM
What the hell is this? Roy and JO are nothing alike. Don't care for the last part; removing

btowncolt
01-12-2011, 12:49 PM
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pacer4ever
01-12-2011, 12:50 PM
When? what you mean..

as a pacer he missed a **** ton of games

Bball
01-12-2011, 12:51 PM
I feel confident in saying Roy will be a better team player than JO ever thought about being... but I'm doubtful Roy will reach JO's ability when he was in his prime. Then again, he was only in his prime for about a week or so... ;)

Where that 'in before the lock' smiley?

PacerPenguins
01-12-2011, 12:54 PM
jermaine played with no one in his prime, he basically got the ball every play..... while Roy has to compete with DC Dun Granger Rush Hans and others

BPump33
01-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Im 18 what about you big fella?

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I'm not really 40, but too good to pass up.

Strummer
01-12-2011, 12:57 PM
Cause Jermaine is 32, Hibbert is 24. Got that?

Exactly! Now you're catching on!

Trading aging stars for emerging talent is almost always a good thing.

If Larry would have made the trade during Jermaine's prime then you might have a valid argument.

pacer4ever
01-12-2011, 12:58 PM
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BornReady#6
01-12-2011, 01:00 PM
JO was the biggest disappointment ever. His numbers might have been decent, but he was never a leader, and at best he was the 2nd option on a good team. When he was given the reigns to the team he completely failed as our on and off the court face of the franchise. He is lazy, and only concerned with himself.

Future_NBA_Player
01-12-2011, 01:02 PM
I love JO. I think he is the 2nd best NBA Pacer player ever.

But this makes no sense.

I don't know about second ever, but I do agree, in his prime he was a beast. I remember when he would totally shut down Chris Bosh. To bad his prime only lasted like 4 or 5 years.

PR07
01-12-2011, 01:03 PM
No, probably not. JO in his prime finished 4th in MVP voting one year, and I don't see Roy ever doing that. Hibbert probably lacks the athleticism, strength, and speed to be an overall elite player. However, Roy has the potential to be a pretty good, even all-star caliber center, which is rare...so it's not a bad thing at all.

daschysta
01-12-2011, 01:04 PM
No, probably not. JO in his prime finished 4th in MVP voting one year, and I don't see Roy ever doing that. Hibbert probably lacks the athleticism, strength, and speed to be an overall elite player. However, Roy has the potential to be a pretty good, even all-star caliber center, which is rare...so it's not a bad thing at all.

3rd in MVP votes.

Unclebuck
01-12-2011, 01:14 PM
I don't know about second ever, but I do agree, in his prime he was a beast. I remember when he would totally shut down Chris Bosh. To bad his prime only lasted like 4 or 5 years.

I remember Jeff Foster usually guarding Bosh.

I often said that JO was the most talented NBA player I have ever seen put on a Pacers uniform. I'll stand by that. But injuries took his game away from him. Also he did not play with enough energy to reach his potential

Tom White
01-12-2011, 01:34 PM
Do yall guys really considering this? this is ridiculous.. let me give a example. everybody says this season is the most improved season of the Hibbert. Okay well, take look at his statistics;

13.1 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.8 BPG, 2.3 Turnover.

And now, take look at Jermaine's worst season 2006-2007. (i didnt type 07-08 season because that year jermaine's trade season and he didnt play half of the season games and didnt begin as a starter.)

19.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 2.4 APG, 2.6 BPG, 2.9 Turnover.

Everything is clear, Hibbert Will NOT be a Jermaine O'Neal ever. Mr. Genius Larry Bird was wrong.. sorry guys. O'Neal and Miller gone, pacers done.. im very very sorry about it, im a pacers fan too.

Thoughts?

Even Jermainiac would never have posted this.



.....or would he?

Dr. Awesome
01-12-2011, 01:38 PM
This guy is clearly a troll trying to start something up if you ask me.

All I know is, I'm glad Larry Bird is running this team instead of Mr. Genius Jermaine_TR.

TinManJoshua
01-12-2011, 01:57 PM
Do yall guys really considering this? this is ridiculous.. let me give a example. everybody says this season is the most improved season of the Hibbert. Okay well, take look at his statistics;

13.1 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.8 BPG, 2.3 Turnover.

And now, take look at Jermaine's worst season 2006-2007. (i didnt type 07-08 season because that year jermaine's trade season and he didnt play half of the season games and didnt begin as a starter.)

19.4 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 2.4 APG, 2.6 BPG, 2.9 Turnover.

Everything is clear, Hibbert Will NOT be a Jermaine O'Neal ever. Mr. Genius Larry Bird was wrong.. sorry guys. O'Neal and Miller gone, pacers done.. im very very sorry about it, im a pacers fan too.

Thoughts?

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Trophy
01-12-2011, 02:01 PM
This is a very random subject since JO hasn't been a Pacer for like 3-4 years.

We're a different team. We've been done with that era.

xBulletproof
01-12-2011, 02:24 PM
Im 18 what about you big fella?

.... and this is where it becomes crystal clear this dude is a big joke, or he's .... something that will get this post deleted if I say it.

Talk about having nothing to do with the debate at hand. :laugh:

Hicks
01-12-2011, 02:35 PM
I think we're done here.

Peck
01-12-2011, 02:37 PM
I can't believe we approved this in the first place.