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avoidingtheclowns
01-11-2011, 07:52 PM
RING PHILLY'S BELL!



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Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
Where: Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia,PA
Officials: J. Crawford, K. Fitzgerald, P. Fraher

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<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><TR><TD align="top"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=3>Season Records: (W-L)</TH></TR>
<TR><TD>:xpacers:</TD><TD align="middle" width="70"><CENTER>14-20</CENTER></TD><TD align="middle" width="100"><CENTER>(Road: 5-11)</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>:76ers:</TD><td align="middle" width="70"><CENTER>15-22</center></TD><TD align="middle" width="100"><CENTER>(Home: 10-6)</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>

<TD valign="bottom"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=5>Upcoming Games:</TH></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>Jan 12</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 14</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 17</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 19</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Jan 22</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>vs :mavericks:</TD><TD>vs :bulls:</TD><TD>at :clippers:</TD><TD>at :warriors:</TD><TD>at :trailblazers:</TD></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>3:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>10:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>10:00 pm</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>PACERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tyler_hansbrough.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/mike_dunleavy.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/darren_collison.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HIBBERT</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HANSBROUGH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>GRANGER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>DUNLEAVY</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>COLLISON</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor= red colSpan=6>SIXERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/spencer_hawes.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/elton_brand.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/andres_nocioni.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jodie_meeks.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jrue_holiday.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HAWES</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BRAND</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>NOCIONI</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>MEEKS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HOLIDAY</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=4>Semi-Relevant Trivia:</TH></TR><TR><TD>

Which player was not drafted<br>#2 overall by the Sixers?</TD><TD>
A. Evan Turner<br>B. Jerry Stackhouse<br>C. Keith Van Horn<br>D. Shawn Bradley</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4>A. Evan Turner (2010, #2)<br>B. Jerry Stackhouse (1995, #3)<br>C. Keith Van Horn (1997, #2)<br>D. Shawn Bradley (1993, #2)</TH></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Minimally Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ap-OO0xqTe4?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b 8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ap-OO0xqTe4?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b 8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR><TR><TH>Or, if you prefer...</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6PMO9zDMwVQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6PMO9zDMwVQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Semi-Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ieC1CUpW8vw?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ieC1CUpW8vw?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR><TR><TH>Highlights from Reggie's debut in Philly Nov 6, 1987.<br>Also with a pinch of Scott Skiles knee-brace action for Grace.<br>You can see more of the game on the YouTubes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUEBzdFvKHI).</TH></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black><TR><TH colSpan=4>http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/images/nba-all-star-game-2011-logo.gif (http://www.nba.com/allstar2011/asb/eng/ballot.html?referrer=asb11_mainNews&cid=nba352)</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4>Don't forget to vote for your 2011 NBA All-Stars.<br>Only 12 days left to vote. Vote early and often, folks.</TH></TR></TABLE>

Flibertygibits
01-11-2011, 08:02 PM
Is that Matthew Lillard at the 1:46 mark in the Hall and Oates video?

31andonly
01-11-2011, 08:04 PM
Meredith Marakovits!

Trophy
01-11-2011, 08:05 PM
Andre Iguodala is playing tonight.

Better step up tonight Danny and everyone else.

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:10 PM
Did they just say Smithville, featuring STD technology? Ha.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:11 PM
is it stephensons time tonight?

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:11 PM
That's it Dunleavy.

Lucky *** shots by Philly.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:12 PM
sad possesion..

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:13 PM
No point of even having Hibbert if he can't hit a shot to save his dang life.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:13 PM
is it stephensons time tonight?

I HOPE SO

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:13 PM
Hibbert looking awful again early on. Oh well, he is a fan favorite so lets blame Obrien.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:14 PM
Dunleavy is having a hell of a game so far. Kudos!

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:15 PM
I am loving Dunleavy's aggressiveness.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:15 PM
Roy looks like he is pressing
his shot is not smooth and it looks like he is really having some mental issues

something tells me if Dunleavy was on a playoff team he would be much more appreciated

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:15 PM
...Alright, I've had enough of Hibbert. He needs a month off or something. I'm dumbfounded.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:15 PM
Hibbert is about as effective as James Posey early on.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:15 PM
hmmmm..

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Bench Hibbert he looks turrrble

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:16 PM
over/under on Lance playing tonight

spazzxb
01-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Roy looks like he is pressing
his shot is not smooth and it looks like he is really having some mental issues

something tells me if Dunleavy was on a playoff team he would be much more appreciated

I don't understand why people treat him like he is Posey.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Granger turns it over and does a homerun trot getting back on d allowing philly a slam. That is pride!!!

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
DUNLEAVY!

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
mike is killing

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
This Philly team REALLY struggles in the half court. It's pretty dang bad. I mean it is an EPIC struggle if they aren't in transition.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Man I would give my left nut if every Pacer player had Tyler's "I dont give a **** attitude

He is the Dale Davis of the current Pacers

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
I don't understand why people treat him like he is Posey.

Because his effectiveness this past month has been about on par with Posey's.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:18 PM
I don't understand why people treat him like he is Posey.

probably because he will look silky smooth and then blow a wide open lay up or give someone a wide open lay up

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:18 PM
Because his effectiveness this past month has been about on par with Posey's.

Not even close. In the month of December I'd argue that he's been our most consistent player.

Trophy
01-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Great start for Mike so far.

Keep it up.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Just when I was going to post something about not wanting Dunleavy starting, he has 10 point already.

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:19 PM
roy is running slowly for some reason.

come on roy. run down the court. rim to rim. pin your man under the rim and wait for the pass. darren is getting breaking by himself. roy needs to make himself available early.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:19 PM
i just cant believe with all the struggles that were still the 7th seed in the east.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:20 PM
Granger playing somewhat slothful defense.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:21 PM
I want Roy to start getting aggressive

member back in Nov when he used to scream and rant...........much better player then

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:21 PM
Not even close. In the month of December I'd argue that he's been our most consistent player.

Well, he certainly has been consistent.....

By the way, my comment was directed at Hibbert, not Dunleavy. Maybe some confusion?

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:21 PM
nice shooting except for roy. did have a nice block though

spazzxb
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
wow thats one empty arena

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
everytime I see a shot of Jim with his hand under his chin as if there is some deep intelligent thought going on , I want to vomit

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
THATS IT HIBBERT THROW THAT **** DOWN MOFO!!

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
Hibbert needs to play like that all game!

kester99
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
Dunleavy leads the team for +/- for the season, and is in the first four two-man combos at the top of the +/- stats.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=2&season=22010&split=9&team=Pacers

Nice one, Roy.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:23 PM
y is the game clock on the TV look so wierd? I can barely read it

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:23 PM
Dunleavy leads the team for +/- for the season, and is in the first four two-man combos at the top of the +/- stats.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=2&season=22010&split=9&team=Pacers

Nice one, Roy.

Thank you kesty. There's no way to back up an opinion than to use facts.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:24 PM
Wow, I get there is snow, but there is no one at this game!

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:24 PM
I would be curious to hear Jim's "reasoning" to starting Dun over Rush. Not saying I disagree with it, but would love to hear the "reason"

Jon Theodore
01-11-2011, 08:24 PM
Dunleavy plays smart, I dare not use the IQ word but he plays smart and runs the offense/defense how the coach wants him too...that is why O'brien likes him so much.

Also, how can anyone not love Tyler Hansbrough...the only guy I have seen hustle more is Jeff Foster....and Hansbrough actually has an offensive game.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
nice board work Pacers

Edit: and better defense

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Speights rebounds over 4 Pacers, nice

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Why does Tyler shooting that elbow jumper remind me of a pale Lasalle Thompson?

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
*** dammit way to take a **** to end a quarter. That's not on the coach.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Glad Meeks is playing well I liked him coming out of collge the kid can flat out shoot

Jon Theodore
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
What has happened to our defense?

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Philly outworking Indiana, we are getting killed on rebounds and not getting back on defense. Oh well, we have been playing to well lately something like this was bound to happen.

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:26 PM
trot, trot, trot

watch the pacers half :censored: it up and down the court.

please fellas, run

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:27 PM
our fast break defense is sucking. We need to hustle back! That is one thing McRoberts does well, hustle back and never give up on any play.

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:27 PM
wow thats one empty arena

better than the thousand or so that showed up in charlotte, but pretty empty.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:28 PM
Why does Tyler shooting that elbow jumper remind me of a pale Lasalle Thompson?

:)

anytime you can work in a LaSalle Thompson reference thats hot!

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:28 PM
danny is just a bad apple right now

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:28 PM
We need to learn how to use a pumpfake.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Granger with another turnover. He has that "I don't give a ****" demeanor tonight.

graphic-er
01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Perhaps Roy would like to put his hands up when trying to defend Speights.

And

Does the city of Philly even like Basketball? That place is empty

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Philly is really a bad team. Pacers as constructed are a much better team

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Dunleavy is playing out of his mind!:dance:

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:29 PM
hopefully ford gets in foul trouble so stephenson can play

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:30 PM
evidently mike is invisible in the paint. he committed about 2 1/2 3 second calls. :laugh:

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Dunleavy I love you.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Mike D hopefully going for a Denver-esque type performance!

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Freaking goodness Dunleavy. Wow.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Philly is really a bad team. Pacers as constructed are a much better team

I disagree they have a better pg and PF and better SG we are about equall talent wise.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Foster will help with the hustling and defense.

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Mike is on fire.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Mike missed, cut him.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Ford, THAT IS WHY I HATE YOU!

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
TJ is an idiot horrible fundamentals

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:32 PM
If our defense could match our offense this would be a blow out.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:33 PM
If our defense could match our offense this would be a blow out.

23 pts is pretty good

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:33 PM
I would like to see McRoberts get some run tonight.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:33 PM
I mean WTF!!

We can't work a trade for an expiring Dunleavy!!!

He could help a LOT of teams

Bball
01-11-2011, 08:33 PM
Granger just looks to me like he's mailing it in....

Sookie
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
I mean WTF!!

We can't work a trade for an expiring Dunleavy!!!

He could help a LOT of teams

We want to keep Dun..

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
All those moves in the first quarter, and Dunleavy's best was ducking out of the way of that first Speights dunk.

He looked like a helpless girlfriend of a super hero when the bad guy comes after them.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
23 pts is pretty good

We gave up way too many easy shots!

Trophy
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
Just bench TJ please.

Mike's off to a great start and I sense a new career high coming if he continues this hot streak.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
If our defense could match our offense this would be a blow out.

How ironic, when was the last time we said that?

Last year maybe?

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
Granger just looks to me like he's mailing it in....

It looks like that...the man has no fire in his game. It looks like he's just going through the motions.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:34 PM
We want to keep Dun..

we??? not I

u watching Kemba and uconn 2 nite??

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Ford sucks

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:36 PM
I still hate TJ Ford. But I love Paul George.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:36 PM
tj my grandma is better than u..ps nice pass :)

Sookie
01-11-2011, 08:36 PM
we??? not I

u watching Kemba and uconn 2 nite??

The Pacers organization..I'm leaving soon but I'm looking at the scores. Calhoun's been irritating me lately too. (rotations) BUT then I just watch the Pacers..

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:36 PM
Ford with an awful shot that hits the bottom of the rim, leads to a Philly 2 footer. Good decision making.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:36 PM
We want to keep Dun..

:(

Sadly that is true

Pacers desperately want to make the playoffs, but with the pending lockout, Dun playing well and HEALTHY, the time to strike is NOW!

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:37 PM
Holy cow, Foster gets an easy bucket by being active down low. Roy, i hope you are taking notes.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:37 PM
great start, but a lot of jumpers

see what happens if/when we start missing

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:38 PM
Anyone see that lonely Pacers fan in a white jersey behind their bench? He's not lonely because he's surrounded by Philly fans, he's lonely because he's surrounded by empty chairs.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:38 PM
The Pacers organization..I'm leaving soon but I'm looking at the scores. Calhoun's been irritating me lately too. (rotations) BUT then I just watch the Pacers..

Im flipping back in forth Rutgers is out playing them their 2-3 is really effective vs uconn they are missing a lot of open shots.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:38 PM
Ncie pass and lay in by Hibbert.

flox
01-11-2011, 08:38 PM
The Pacers organization..I'm leaving soon but I'm looking at the scores. Calhoun's been irritating me lately too. (rotations) BUT then I just watch the Pacers..

As a Rutgers guy I hope that we keep it close. Our team is getting better and we have good recruits coming in next year.

Conn is always fun to watch. Always a fan of their teams.

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
great start, but a lot of jumpers

see what happens if/when we start missing

Knock on wood, Man!

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
nice job by the pacers getting mike extra shots when hot. he got up 9 shots in the qtr. pacers don't always do that.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
nice play DG

Dunk the ball Roy!!

cdash
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
I still like Jrue Holiday.

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
Hell yes, knock the **** out of them when they go to the rim. Boo yah.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:40 PM
I still like Jrue Holiday.

Me 2 i wish we would have drafted him

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:40 PM
Is Granger going to get any rest???

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:40 PM
That shot they just showed looked like they have about 3000 people there. I thought we were having attendance problems.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:40 PM
Danny has played the whole game right

cdash
01-11-2011, 08:41 PM
That shot they just showed looked like they have about 3000 people there. I thought we were having attendance problems.

To be fair, I think they are expecting the snow that just plowed through Indy.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:42 PM
I disagree they have a better pg and PF and better SG we are about equall talent wise.

I disagree bro

PG Collisson over Holliday
SG Dun over Meeks
SF Granger over Iggy?
PF Brand = Tyler, maybe very slightly better
C Hibbert over ?

I like our bench more as well

Pacemaker
01-11-2011, 08:42 PM
I love what PG brings to the table he should be more and more in the mix.

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 08:44 PM
That shot they just showed looked like they have about 3000 people there. I thought we were having attendance problems.

weather problems. it is supposed to snow about 6 inches there tonight

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:44 PM
I disagree bro

PG Collisson over Holliday
SG Dun over Meeks
SF Granger over Iggy?
PF Brand = Tyler, maybe very slightly better
C Hibbert over ?

I like our bench more as well

I condsider Iggy a 2 and Brand is better than Tyler at this point in time.

Holliday is better than collison also look at the stats he is also way better defensivly

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:44 PM
To be fair, I think they are expecting the snow that just plowed through Indy.


Okay I will give them that.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:44 PM
I disagree bro

PG Collisson over Holliday
SG Dun over Meeks
SF Granger over Iggy?
PF Brand = Tyler, maybe very slightly better
C Hibbert over ?

I like our bench more as well

Agreed w/ everything except bench. I'd love to have Thaddeus or Louis. Let us keep PG though.

I hate TJ Ford. Hate hate hate hate hate

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:45 PM
I disagree bro

PG Collisson over Holliday
SG Dun over Meeks
SF Granger over Iggy?
PF Brand = Tyler, maybe very slightly better
C Hibbert over ?

I like our bench more as well

I disagree with you

Holiday=Collison
Dun>Meeks
Iggy>Granger
Brand>>>Tyler
Hibbert> (= the way he is playing now) to Hawes

These teams are relatively equal talent wise IMO.

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:45 PM
Possible Lance Stephenson sighting tonight?

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:45 PM
Collison is better than Holiday.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:46 PM
Nice defense Tyler!

CableKC
01-11-2011, 08:46 PM
Possible Lance Stephenson sighting tonight?
There's a small chance.....TJ has 3 fouls already in the 2nd.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Awe, Nice shot anyway tyler!

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
I disagree with you

Holiday=Collison
Dun>Meeks
Iggy>Granger
Brand>>>Tyler
Hibbert> (= the way he is playing now) to Hawes

These teams are relatively equal talent wise IMO.

Thats the way i see it also Meeks is having a pretty decent yr him and mike's numbers are simar that might even be =

flox
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Im flipping back in forth Rutgers is out playing them their 2-3 is really effective vs uconn they are missing a lot of open shots.

For Rutgers it's not defense but offense that seems to be the problem.

Well, that and fouling.

I still think Philly has more talent in their system than we do, and it's not even close.

Pacemaker
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
I like Tyler he gets results.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Turner didn't deserve to hit that shot.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
I condsider Iggy a 2 and Brand is better than Tyler at this point in time.

Holliday is better than collison also look at the stats he is also way better defensivly

Collison vs Holliday is debatable, Ill give you that

Iggy is currently the sixers starting SF

and regardless I think Danny is a better player

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Nice roll for Hibbert!

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:48 PM
Hansbrough causing problems, I like it!

flox
01-11-2011, 08:48 PM
Hmm those hours put into our offense seem to be working so far.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:49 PM
PS: What the hell did Solo do to become inactive, except improve in every way?

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:49 PM
Interesting...still no rest for Granger.

Sookie
01-11-2011, 08:49 PM
Collison is just playing PnR after PnR..he looks more comfortable.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:49 PM
For Rutgers it's not defense but offense that seems to be the problem.

Well, that and fouling.

I still think Philly has more talent in their system than we do, and it's not even close.

thats what i said uconn's missing a lot of open shots and Rutgers 2 -3 zone is really shuting them down. I kind of miss worded the end part of my post

dito on the 2nd part phila has aa better team than us

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:50 PM
**** it Danny.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:50 PM
Hmm those hours put into our offense seem to be working so far.

u could say that or possibly they were anxious to redeem themselves from getting blown out the last time

flox
01-11-2011, 08:50 PM
Oh come on Collison don't do that.

CableKC
01-11-2011, 08:50 PM
Smart play by Foster.

Lance George
01-11-2011, 08:50 PM
That shot they just showed looked like they have about 3000 people there. I thought we were having attendance problems.

The metro Philly also has three times the population as Indy.

flox
01-11-2011, 08:51 PM
thats what i said uconn's missing a lot of open shots and Rutgers 2 -3 zone is really shuting them down. I kind of miss worded the end part of my post

Yeah I agree with you. I try to go to the RAC as much as I can to watch the team. The offense at time really worries me.


Roads are pretty bad up here right now. Getting slippery. Don't blame people for staying in.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:51 PM
Interesting...still no rest for Granger.

" The plan is to reduce Granger's minutes to under 35 a night"

From the best selling novel " I don't even believe myself" by Jim O'Brien

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:51 PM
Hmm those hours put into our offense seem to be working so far.

I will believe that when we are able to execute at the end of games in crunch time.

CableKC
01-11-2011, 08:52 PM
Hmm those hours put into our offense seem to be working so far.


u could say that or possibly they were anxious to redeem themselves from getting blown out the last time
Let's just say that it's a combination of both. :shrug:

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:52 PM
Oh come on Collison don't do that.

Those are the shots that I can't stand. If it's not a guaranteed two points (i.e. dunk or layup), then I prefer that they reset the offense.

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:53 PM
wow, nice move by Collison

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:53 PM
Thats it DC!!! That is IT!!

flox
01-11-2011, 08:53 PM
FOSTER WHY DID YOU DO THAT.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Yeah I agree with you. I try to go to the RAC as much as I can to watch the team. The offense at time really worries me.


Roads are pretty bad up here right now. Getting slippery. Don't blame people for staying in.

were not in your confrence (Rutgers) but I saw a few games while I was at the "Powerhouse" known as The Blackbirds of Long Island University-Brooklyn

:)

31andonly
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Collison and Dunleavy have been absolutely fantastic so far!

pacers74
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Speights and Brand are killing us.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Is it just me or does Collison dribble way too much?

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Damn we really have ZERO inside game without Roy in the game

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
I got a bad feeling...he took Roy and Granger at the same time.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
And Paul George sits.

flox
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
TIMEOUT. DEFENSE.

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:55 PM
Damn we really have ZERO inside game without Roy in the game

The problem is we don't have much of an inside game with him in the game either lately.

PacerDude
01-11-2011, 08:55 PM
I will believe that when we are able to execute at the end of games in crunch time.Are we executing JOB ??

Why wait until the end of the game ?? :shrug:

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:55 PM
Are they really saying ... "It's TUURRRRNERRR" like Ja Rule says "It's MUUUURDA". Sounds stupid.

As if Ja Rule didn't sound dumb enough to begin with.

ksuttonjr76
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Damn we really have ZERO inside game without Roy in the game

I've noticed that too. A struggling Hibbert is way better than no Hibbert at all.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Is it just me or does Collison dribble way too much?

Just u or u have him and TJ mixed up

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Is it just me or does Collison dribble way too much?

sadly the effects of practicing with TJ

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
I got a bad feeling...he took Roy and Granger at the same time.

Um, ew.

Mr_Smith
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
The Pacers should be blowing this team out... this is frustrating

flox
01-11-2011, 08:56 PM
were not in your confrence (Rutgers) but I saw a few games while I was at the "Powerhouse" known as The Blackbirds of Long Island University-Brooklyn

:)

Oh sweet thats awesome.

Also, DEFENSE.

*sigh*

Sookie
01-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Is it just me or does Collison dribble way too much?

It doesn't look like he's running the offense, just running PnRs and doing what he wants.

We're scoring more and he's got better stats, and we're leading..so I won't complain. Then again, that's probably because Dun has about 20.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:57 PM
The problem is we don't have much of an inside game with him in the game either lately.

no doubt

but his worst at least "keeps the defense honest"

kinda like the colts and their running game

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Good God Collison has 7 assists already.

flox
01-11-2011, 08:58 PM
DG did you think about passing that? Maybe?

joew8302
01-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Are we executing JOB ??

Why wait until the end of the game ?? :shrug:

Umm what? Sorry I am not going to worship the guy for a decent first half performance against a bad team?

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Um, ew.


I spit my drink out

:) funny

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Good God Collison has 7 assists already.

season high?

Hicks
01-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Good God Collison has 7 assists already.

He must pass the ball to Mike a lot early in the offense?

flox
01-11-2011, 09:00 PM
PASS. BALL. MOVEMENT.

Oh..ok. Foster works too.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:00 PM
Foster with the charge. and Granger walks again.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
Oh sweet thats awesome.

Also, DEFENSE.

*sigh*

LOL

we had one guy Charles Jones who got drafted by the clippers, but our little stadium used to rock and we had plenty of aggressive Brooklynites to make it an unfriendly place to visit

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
I spit my drink out

:) funny

I'm sure I could work that into the joke somehow. :laugh:

As far as the game goes, Collison is getting all the freedom in the world today. WTF is going on?

Mr_Smith
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
is it me or does danny get called for traveling very frequently

Sookie
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
He must pass the ball to Mike a lot early in the offense?

He's running PnRs and holding the ball longer. Not really running the motion.

I swear the Pacers look better though..

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
couple of nice catch and shoots by granger and rush

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:01 PM
He must pass the ball to Mike a lot early in the offense?

I'll go through at half and see who the assists went to. Good possibility.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:02 PM
That was an impressive putback by Granger right there!

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:02 PM
He's running PnRs and holding the ball longer. Not really running the motion.

I swear the Pacers look better though..

yepp i like it a lot

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:02 PM
PASS. BALL. MOVEMENT.

Oh..ok. Foster works too.

I agree Flox man that is why it's so maddening

Why the heck are they so inconsistent?

some days it looks like the get it

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 09:03 PM
who was foster arguing with after the foul?

flox
01-11-2011, 09:03 PM
i need to watch this game more closely. I'm not happy with our defense.

I need to watch our offense closely as well. I don't know if this whole Collison offensive freedom thing is new as well.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:03 PM
...Yeah we should run PnRs more often.

Pacemaker
01-11-2011, 09:04 PM
DC is awesome in the PnR.

PacersPride
01-11-2011, 09:04 PM
its really nice to see jeff foster healthy and active, esp. since many including myself thought he was most likely finished.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:04 PM
Are they really saying ... "It's TUURRRRNERRR" like Ja Rule says "It's MUUUURDA". Sounds stupid.

As if Ja Rule didn't sound dumb enough to begin with.

but he cries :)

I cry you cry...............

flox
01-11-2011, 09:05 PM
LOL

we had one guy Charles Jones who got drafted by the clippers, but our little stadium used to rock and we had plenty of aggressive Brooklynites to make it an unfriendly place to visit

I'm a big fan of small stadiums that can rock. Sounds like an awesome place.


He's running PnRs and holding the ball longer. Not really running the motion.

I swear the Pacers look better though..

I swear we're opposites.

Sookie
01-11-2011, 09:05 PM
yepp i like it a lot

I wonder if Collison is just doing what he wants or was told he has some freedom.

righteouscool
01-11-2011, 09:05 PM
Collison is having a monster game. 8 points, 8 assists, 3 steals and no turnovers.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:06 PM
I'm sure I could work that into the joke somehow. :laugh:

As far as the game goes, Collison is getting all the freedom in the world today. WTF is going on?

LMAO

After I wrote it , I was like "man if someone said that ****, I would have lit'em up like a Christmas tree :)

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 09:06 PM
only 5 turnovers. 4 by danny.:-o

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:07 PM
i need to watch this game more closely. I'm not happy with our defense.

I need to watch our offense closely as well. I don't know if this whole Collison offensive freedom thing is new as well.

I think he just said :censored: It ill play my game because TJ had 3 fouls so he knew JOB wasnt gonna bench him.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:09 PM
I wonder if Collison is just doing what he wants or was told he has some freedom.

you gotta believe he has Jim's blessing or he would have been yanked faster than a dude who just escaped prison

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:09 PM
Dahntay Jones is a funny guy.

flox
01-11-2011, 09:10 PM
you gotta believe he has Jim's blessing or he would have been yanked faster than a dude who just escaped prison

Thats my guess as well.

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:10 PM
Here are Collison assists ....

1st Qtr
10:27 Mike Dunleavy makes 24-foot three point jumper (Darren Collison assists)
8:38 Tyler Hansbrough makes 15-foot jumper (Darren Collison assists)
6:30 Mike Dunleavy makes 25-foot three point jumper (Darren Collison assists)
4:18 Danny Granger makes 11-foot jumper (Darren Collison assists)
3:06 Tyler Hansbrough makes 15-foot two point shot (Darren Collison assists)

2nd Qtr
6:56 Roy Hibbert makes 16-foot jumper (Darren Collison assists)
5:33 Mike Dunleavy makes 25-foot three point jumper (Darren Collison assists)
1:22 Brandon Rush makes 19-foot jumper (Darren Collison assists)


Not so much piggy backing on Dunleavy. He's just had a lot of freedom today. 8 points, 8 assists and 3 steals at half. This is the Collison I saw in New Orleans last year.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:11 PM
only 5 turnovers. 4 by danny.:-o

Thats what happens when ur best decsion maker has the ball the most very few turnovers.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Collison is a hooper when he gets the freedom, and despite poor defense we are up. I have to think that that is a factor of the freedom for DC.

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:12 PM
LMAO

After I wrote it , I was like "man if someone said that ****, I would have lit'em up like a Christmas tree :)

I figured I'd cut you some slack, sounded like you'd already been lit up. :-o

Couldn't help it. :laugh:

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:12 PM
Thats my guess as well.

By the way, Rutgers is a damn good school. Had a couple of my friends go there and they are doing very well

Trophy
01-11-2011, 09:13 PM
I just checked out Brandon's scoring in his last 2 games. Both below under 10 points.

He needs to step up his scoing. We can't afford an inconsistent Brandon again.

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:14 PM
Is the box score right? Paul George only played 1 minute? I swore he played more than that. If 1 minute is right, he sure made the most of that 1 minute. 2 points, 1 rebound and 1 steal in 1 minute.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:14 PM
I hope with TJ's foul issues (actually it's not an issue it's more of a benefit or pleasant suprise) that Lance gets some burn at the backup spot.. Just for some perspective of what to maybe expect.

If he does terrible-awful like a lot on here thinks he would, than that's that. But if he does relatively decent than I have to be somewhat relieved. He's not going to make it as a two.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:15 PM
Jim Calhoun shows why he is a good coach UCONN looks like a brand new team in the 2nd half sookie 44-27 UCONN 12-0 run

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:15 PM
I just checked out Brandon's scoring in his last 2 games. Both below under 10 points.

He needs to step up his scoing. We can't afford an inconsistent Brandon again.

Agreed

Not to throw it all on Jim but how much of that is due to Brandon being yanked in and out of the starting line up?

How do you get your rhythm like that?

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:17 PM
I hope with TJ's foul issues (actually it's not an issue it's more of a benefit or pleasant suprise) that Lance gets some burn at the backup spot.. Just for some perspective of what to maybe expect.

If he does terrible-awful like a lot on here thinks he would, than that's that. But if he does relatively decent than I have to be somewhat relieved. He's not going to make it as a two.

me too man, but seriously doubt it unless we are blowing them out and he gets in the last couple minutes

Pacemaker
01-11-2011, 09:17 PM
FREE DC !!! FREE DC !!!

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:18 PM
Is the box score right? Paul George only played 1 minute? I swore he played more than that. If 1 minute is right, he sure made the most of that 1 minute. 2 points, 1 rebound and 1 steal in 1 minute.

Yeah, he didn't really get a chance. I'll cut Jim some slack though; Dunleavy is scorching hot and he deserved to be in longer.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:18 PM
LOL @ the "Jack Daniels Invitational"

Trophy
01-11-2011, 09:19 PM
I noticed the Sixers changed their arena buzzer from the last time I was there.

I like the other one better.

And I also saw Wells Fargo bought the naming rights from Wachovia

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:19 PM
:shocked: Holy crap, we have not shot a single free throw.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:19 PM
Did it just say we haven't been to the free throw line?

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:20 PM
10 assists for DC.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:21 PM
LOL Hawes is soft

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:21 PM
Did it just say we haven't been to the free throw line?

now we have lol

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:21 PM
DC could have way more double doubles had we played him to his strengths long ago.

Pacemaker
01-11-2011, 09:22 PM
Double-Double for DC !!! Free DC !!!

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:22 PM
:shocked: Holy crap, we have not shot a single free throw.

Thats why I still say our greatest need is someone who can create their own shot,especially with Tyler's recent play

kester99
01-11-2011, 09:23 PM
Did it just say we haven't been to the free throw line?

That tech was our first.

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:23 PM
DC FROM NOLA YES this is what i love about his game JOB please keep DC FREE

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:23 PM
This is DC's world and we all just live in it. I said this last week, and I'm going to say it again since it sounds more appropriate now. I think that DC is our best player. If he had the green light, he'd be putting up some real numbers.

Sandman21
01-11-2011, 09:23 PM
I sure hope O'Moron has been paying attention to what DC has been doing offensively tonight. Then again, he can't like it - IT'S WORKING (at least tonight).

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 09:23 PM
nice start in the 2nd half. wonder how much is pacers good play and how much is sixer poor play? :confused:

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
This is DC's world and we all just live in it. I said this last week, and I'm going to say it again since it sounds more appropriate now. I think that DC is our best player. If he had the green light, he'd be putting up some real numbers.

I concure let DC be DC

joew8302
01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
I noticed the Sixers changed their arena buzzer from the last time I was there.

I like the other one better.

And I also saw Wells Fargo bought the naming rights from Wachovia

Wells Fargo bought Wachovia all together.

Trophy
01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
DC IS FREE!

We need to see this offense every game in addition to our defense.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
If Jim truly has "let DC free"

Then what does this say about it taking 30 plus games to figure it out?

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:25 PM
DC IS FREE!

We need to see this offense every game in addition to our defense.

yes

joew8302
01-11-2011, 09:25 PM
Great hustle from Roy! I can dig that.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:25 PM
This is DC's world and we all just live in it. I said this last week, and I'm going to say it again since it sounds more appropriate now. I think that DC is our best player. If he had the green light, he'd be putting up some real numbers.

Best? Really?

That is actually very interesting you say that. When you get time, please explain

pacer4ever
01-11-2011, 09:26 PM
If Jim truly has "let DC free"

Then what does this say about it taking 30 plus games to figure it out?

30 to late Byron Scott freeed him his rookie yr pretty quickly

cgg
01-11-2011, 09:26 PM
I noticed the Sixers changed their arena buzzer from the last time I was there.

I like the other one better.

And I also saw Wells Fargo bought the naming rights from Wachovia

Wells Fargo bought Wachovia completely.

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:26 PM
Best? Really?

That is actually very interesting you say that. When you get time, please explain

Sure will my friend, perhaps in a post game thread or something.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:27 PM
Handsbrough immediately benched by Obie :)

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:27 PM
The very second we go back to the motion this happens.

jcouts
01-11-2011, 09:29 PM
philly is picking up their intensity on defense, but our offensive intensity isn't matching it

edit: nor is our defensive intensity matching it back

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:29 PM
God dammit Roy HIbbert. Freaking miss a bunny and cause a fast break three.

xIndyFan
01-11-2011, 09:29 PM
nice entry pass by tyler. too bad roy missed the shot.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 09:29 PM
no suprise

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:30 PM
and we dont have someone who can create off the dribble so we start missing jumpers and there goes the lead

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 09:30 PM
*** dammit Roy HIbbert. Freaking miss a bunny and cause a fast break three.

a bunny? wtf?

BringJackBack
01-11-2011, 09:30 PM
a bunny? wtf?

A bunny means a lay-in.

CableKC
01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
Hansbrough MUST learn to hit those mid-range jumpers or his effectiveness will be limited.

Trophy
01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
Tyler needs to take it easy on those shots.

Better get the defense going again.

PacerPenguins
01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
A bunny means a lay-in.

ok thx i didnt know that.. to busy watch "Winning Time"

xBulletproof
01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
a bunny? wtf?

An easy shot.

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
a bunny? wtf?

close shot

Mackey_Rose
01-11-2011, 09:33 PM
From the Department of Redundancy Department, Clark Kellogg is proud to bring you...

WATER ICE!!!

90'sNBARocked
01-11-2011, 09:33 PM
Tyler needs to think pass first, shot second