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  • #1

    Boo!!!!!! (Foster back as a starter)

    Every coach that we have ever had as long as I can remember made it a point to make sure that a player did not lose his starting job due to injury.

    While McRoberts may not have been playing superb in every game he was the fixed starter however now with the title of today's star article it appears that Foster is now the starter so thus Josh gets kicked in the nads and loses his starting job, effectively kicking him in the nads again.

    If I thought for one second that this would put an end to Posey's min. I would have no problem but now what we are going to see is ancient old Foster followed up with ancient old Posey. While Josh & Tyler sit and gather gatorade cups and do p.r. events.

    Let's just all say it together. Tyler Hansbrough is a bust.

    No, that is not what I think but it is apperantly what our team thinks as we are now slightly above a 1/4 of the season and he only makes an apperance every now and then. Second year player and if they claim that he is a rookie again then fine, what will he be next year if this min. distribution continues?

    Anyway, adding another player at the four spot is not a good thing @ this point in time.

    http://www.indystar.com/article/2010...r-back-starter

    Written by
    Mike Wells

    Indiana Pacers veteran big man Jeff Foster knew what his 33-year-old body still can do.

    Foster would have retired last summer if he didn't think he could be effective.

    All the 12th-year veteran needed was an opportunity.

    It took more than a quarter of the season before that chance came, but Foster showed in two games last week that he can still be the blue-collar worker many people have been accustomed to seeing throughout his career.

    Starting in place of the injured Josh McRoberts at power forward, Foster totaled 16 rebounds in games against Boston and New Orleans.

    "He made a huge case of what he can do still," forward Danny Granger said.

    "He's getting older, but he can still be one of the premier rebounders out there."

    Back problems limited Foster to only 16 games last season. He had surgery in February.

    "I wouldn't have come back from my surgery if didn't think I could still play," Foster said. "I would have walked away and retired if I couldn't play at a high level still. I've just tried to stay ready through the first part of the season.

    "There's been some frustrating times, but I knew at some point I was going to be called upon to play."

    Foster, who was expected to get most his minutes backing up Roy Hibbert at center, spent the first part of the season stuck on the bench or on the inactive list because coach Jim O'Brien didn't think he was healthy enough to contribute.

    Foster finally started showing signs of being healthy again, but that was around the time Solomon Jones began playing his best basketball as a Pacer.

    O'Brien did not want to penalize Jones because the organization had waited so long for him to turn the corner.

    "I said to Jeff that we're never going to be the team we want to be without him playing some significant minutes," O'Brien said. "It was going to be a matter of time. I think he's a tough guy. His first two assignments are (Boston's Kevin) Garnett and (New Orleans') David West, two of the better power forwards."

    Foster's recent play has created a problem for O'Brien because he can't give McRoberts, James Posey, Tyler Hansbrough and Foster minutes at power forward every game.

    Who starts, according to O'Brien, may depend on the opponent, which is what he does with Brandon Rush and Mike Dunleavy at shooting guard.

    "It's like power forward by committee," O'Brien said. "We try to bring Tyler along. James gives us a specialty. I can't play all four guys every game at power forward because you don't get into any kind of rhythm. I haven't figured it out yet."

    The Pacers hope that playing Foster -- whose expiring contract could be used in a possible trade -- at power forward will reduce the risk of him re-injuring his back going against players such as Orlando's Dwight Howard and Boston's Shaquille O'Neal in the post.

    "I'm probably as 100 percent as I'm going to be," Foster said. "I feel really good overall. I'm looking forward to contributing as much as I can, as much as coach needs me to."


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
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    Re: Boo!!!!!!

    Not sure how I feel about this. I love Foster and want to see him on the court, but a platoon of Foster/Posey at power forward is extremely unexciting.

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    • #3
      Re: Boo!!!!!!

      The Star headline writer does not work for the Pacers.

      You assert, Peck, that Foster is the starter now, and Tyler must be out of the rotation? Seen as a bust?

      Yet the article quotes O'Brien:

      Who starts, according to O'Brien, may depend on the opponent, which is what he does with Brandon Rush and Mike Dunleavy at shooting guard.

      "It's like power forward by committee," O'Brien said. "We try to bring Tyler along. James gives us a specialty. I can't play all four guys every game at power forward because you don't get into any kind of rhythm. I haven't figured it out yet."

      He hasn't figured it out yet, but you have? Seems a bit alarmist. But as the song goes, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

      I know Wells likes to stir the pot sometimes. I'm really wondering if that's what you mean to do.


      [~]) ... Cheers! Go Pacers!

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      • #4
        Re: Boo!!!!!!

        it would seem foster as well lost his starting spot to injury, way before mcbob ever was considered for the starting rotation. if foster is healthy he should be the starter. i only wish he were 5 years younger cause i think he would be excellent next to hibbs.

        not knocking mcbob at all, i think he has done a very good job, but i would prefer foster if he is healthy.

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        • #5
          Re: Boo!!!!!!

          Foster start, Josh and Tyler backup C/PF, Great

          Foster start, Jones and Posey backup C/PF.......No more pacers games this year..

          TJ,POSEY,JONES,MIKE play a lot this year
          However, they are not in the pacers future pie..

          So who care pacers this year?
          Last edited by Kamiyohk; 12-26-2010, 04:24 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Boo!!!!!!

            Well does this means mcbob is the back up c? I mean if foster starting pf and posey is most likely the back up then it only makes sense since they play alongside each other all season.(not saying I like it) or does this give you a chance to play hansbrough and mc bob together somethig I think everyone wants to see and with that idc if Jim puts in ford, lance, posey at the backourt as long as them two are down low were gonna be fine against average frontcourts.

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            • #7
              Re: Boo!!!!!!



              Were you saying "boo" or "boo-urns?"

              Oh and if this is actually Foster followed by Posey it officially sucks. This coach is so irrational I can't believe he is serious sometimes. Foster goes from never plays to starts in the blink of an eye. Hansbrough goes from bench warmer, to starting the 2nd half vs the Lakers, back to bench warmer. Last year TJ was DNP-CD for like a month, now he ends games and AJ cant dress. Apparently its all or nothing for JOB.
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              • #8
                Re: Boo!!!!!!

                Originally posted by King Phoenix View Post
                Well does this means mcbob is the back up c?

                Originally posted by Diamond Dave View Post

                Oh and if this is actually Foster followed by Posey it officially sucks.
                Pretty sure from the quote and the article that Hibbert and Solomon are the center rotation, and Foster and McRoberts are the main two PFs. That's just based on O'Brien saying it was bad to play all four PFs in one game, then saying we want to bring Tyler along, and that Posey gives us a specialty.

                Sounds to me like the Foster and McRoberts minutes are a given, and that Tyler's and Posey's minutes would be the main balancing act.

                Could be wrong. There's not a lot of quote to go by there.


                [~]) ... Cheers! Go Pacers!

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                • #9
                  Foster back as a starter

                  The title of the article is a little misleading since JOB doesn't commit to who he's starting or going to play.
                  I wish he would just settle of an PF/C rotation of Roy, Jeff, Tyler, and Josh.


                  http://www.indystar.com/article/2010...-power-forward


                  Indiana Pacers veteran big man Jeff Foster knew what his 33-year-old body still can do.

                  Foster would have retired last summer if he didn't think he could be effective.

                  All the 12th-year veteran needed was an opportunity.

                  It took more than a quarter of the season before that chance came, but Foster showed in two games last week that he can still be the blue-collar worker many people have been accustomed to seeing throughout his career.

                  Starting in place of the injured Josh McRoberts at power forward, Foster totaled 16 rebounds in games against Boston and New Orleans.

                  "He made a huge case of what he can do still," forward Danny Granger said.

                  "He's getting older, but he can still be one of the premier rebounders out there."

                  Back problems limited Foster to only 16 games last season. He had surgery in February.

                  "I wouldn't have come back from my surgery if didn't think I could still play," Foster said. "I would have walked away and retired if I couldn't play at a high level still. I've just tried to stay ready through the first part of the season.

                  "There's been some frustrating times, but I knew at some point I was going to be called upon to play."

                  Foster, who was expected to get most his minutes backing up Roy Hibbert at center, spent the first part of the season stuck on the bench or on the inactive list because coach Jim O'Brien didn't think he was healthy enough to contribute.

                  Foster finally started showing signs of being healthy again, but that was around the time Solomon Jones began playing his best basketball as a Pacer.

                  O'Brien did not want to penalize Jones because the organization had waited so long for him to turn the corner.

                  "I said to Jeff that we're never going to be the team we want to be without him playing some significant minutes," O'Brien said. "It was going to be a matter of time. I think he's a tough guy. His first two assignments are (Boston's Kevin) Garnett and (New Orleans') David West, two of the better power forwards."

                  Foster's recent play has created a problem for O'Brien because he can't give McRoberts, James Posey, Tyler Hansbrough and Foster minutes at power forward every game.

                  Who starts, according to O'Brien, may depend on the opponent, which is what he does with Brandon Rush and Mike Dunleavy at shooting guard.

                  "It's like power forward by committee," O'Brien said. "We try to bring Tyler along. James gives us a specialty. I can't play all four guys every game at power forward because you don't get into any kind of rhythm. I haven't figured it out yet."

                  The Pacers hope that playing Foster -- whose expiring contract could be used in a possible trade -- at power forward will reduce the risk of him re-injuring his back going against players such as Orlando's Dwight Howard and Boston's Shaquille O'Neal in the post.

                  "I'm probably as 100 percent as I'm going to be," Foster said. "I feel really good overall. I'm looking forward to contributing as much as I can, as much as coach needs me to."
                  Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Boo!!!!!!

                    Well...I would start him too...
                    Foster needed two starts to have a better game than McRoberts ever had in a Pacers uniform...
                    We won the last game, he shut down West....maybe he deserves to start...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Foster back as a starter

                      Originally posted by Pacerized View Post
                      "I haven't figured it out yet."
                      Finally something I totally agree with O'Brien on.

                      This one statement perfectly sums up his entire coaching career.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Boo!!!!!!

                        If it brings more wins I am fine with this move. What Foster brings is rebounding. He is the best offensive rebounder on the team. I have been mildly disappointed in Josh's rebounding.
                        He does not block out well and fight for rebounds the way Foster can. I think he can but he has to put more focus on that aspect of his game.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Foster back as a starter

                          glad to see jeff back at the 4. more jeff and less of someone else is a good thing.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Boo!!!!!!

                            And the Jim O'Brien veteran love-fest continues...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Boo!!!!!!

                              Originally posted by Jim O'Brien
                              I haven't figured it out yet.
                              That pretty much says it all.

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