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BostonConnection
08-27-2004, 09:27 AM
Next victim! :devil:

Game Start Time: 1:00 PM EST (Noon Indiana Time) on NBC

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/_common/_images/_flags/USA.gifUSA Roster
No  Pos   Player
4    G    Allen Iverson
5    G    Stephon Marbury
6    G    Dwyane Wade
7    F    Carlos Boozer
8    F    Carmelo Anthony
9    G    Lebron James
10   F/C  Emeka Okafor
11   F    Shawn Marion
12   C    Amare Stoudemire
13   F/C  Tim Duncan
14   F    Lamar Odom
15   F    Richard Jefferson


http://images.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/_common/_images/_flags/ARG.gifArgentina Roster
No  Pos   Player
4    G    Pepe Sanchez
5    G    Emanuel Ginobili
6    G    Alejandro Montecchia
7    C    Fabricio Oberto
8    F    Walter Herrmann
9    C    Gabriel Fernandez
10   G    Hugo Sconochini
11   F/C  Luis Scola
12   F    Leonardo Gutierrez
13   F    Andres Nocioni
14   F    Carlos Delfino
15   C    Ruben Wolkowyski


Quarterfinals Results:
USA 102, Spain 94 Box score (http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5052293/detail.html)
Lithuania 95, China 75 Box score (http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5052294/detail.html)
Italy 83, Puerto Rico 70 Box score (http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5052295/detail.html)
Argentina 69 Greece 64 Box score (http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5052296/detail.html)

Semifinals Matchups:
Argentina vs United States (1 PM EST on NBC)
Italy vs Lithuania (3:15 PM but broadcast delayed until 5 PM EST on Bravo)

Hicks
08-27-2004, 09:28 AM
Screw it, maybe I'll leave my PC on to record this sucker. Just for the hell of it.

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 09:29 AM
I just been getting the Games off a Bit Torrent Site

Hicks
08-27-2004, 09:31 AM
Nevermind, my schedule won't work for this setup. Another one bites the dust. :cry:

BostonConnection
08-27-2004, 09:33 AM
Hey Kstat, you gonna be able to provide the play-by-play for this one since a lot of us can't watch it on TV? You did a great job with the US/Spain game! :cool:

Kstat
08-27-2004, 09:33 AM
Argentina has a very small frontline, Tim DUncan should be able to destroy them inside.

However, Oberto, Nocioni, Guitirrez and GInoboli are ALL very good shooters. We'll have our hands full defending them.

BostonConnection
08-27-2004, 09:35 AM
Argentina has a very small frontline, Tim DUncan should be able to destroy them inside.

However, Oberto, Nocioni, Guitirrez and GInoboli are ALL very good shooters. We'll have our hands full defending them.

That's the thing that concerns me. We've shown again and again our problems defending the perimeter.

dipperdunk
08-27-2004, 10:10 AM
Yeah, Duncan hammered them last summer in Puerto Rico and we blew them out by like 30 in that title game. Our talent level on this team isn't the same as the team we had last summer but if TD stays out of foul trouble we should win. Ginobili and Sanchez are both fun to watch. <P>

<a href=http://www.nba.com/news/usa_photo_2003.html>USA/ARG Title Game Last Summer</a>

DisplacedKnick
08-27-2004, 10:31 AM
I'm not terribly worried about them if the game's called OK. I am very worried about Lithuania.

Guess we'll see.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Well, Team USA went down by 16 with about 7 minutes to go in the 3rd. Tim Duncan has four fouls and has sat out most of the 3rd quarter. Argentina is coming off high screens and nailing three after three. It ain't looking good right now for the USA.

55-66 with 1:22 left in the 3rd

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:24 PM
Manu had 15 of his 28 points in the third quarter. After 3, Argentina is shooting 61% from three and 58% from the field overall.

With 8:00 left in the 4th, it's 61-70. Argentina just committed their third team foul.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:28 PM
6:50 left, it's 61-73. Manu is about to go to the line for two FTs. Our perimeter defense is ineffective and our offense is verging on ineffective. Doug Collins just said it: the US is going to have to play perfect basketball from here on out to win.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:33 PM
65-76, 4:41 left. Tim Duncan just fouled out on a dubious call. The USA is shooting the penalty from here on out, but it doesn't look like they're going inside to utilize it.

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:38 PM
If we win this game it will be a FREAKING MIRACLE :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

80 to 69 ..Argentina and duncan has fouled out ..3 mins left

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:38 PM
69-80, with 3:43 left. Argentina just nailed another wide open three. They're 11/21 from three today.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:40 PM
Marbury just completed a three-point play.

72-81, 3:08 remaining.

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:41 PM
Argentina -81
US -72
2:42 left

RJ shooting FT's

is your time off that far OB it's ^^^

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:42 PM
The US finally got a stop and Richard Jefferson was fouled by Manu. Jefferson to the line for two FTs...

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:44 PM
Argentina 83
US 75

about 1:30 to go in the game

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:45 PM
Jefferson hit 1/2, US gets another stop...

Jefferson misses a three, Argentina scores again...

Marbury scores 2.

75-83, 1:30 left.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:47 PM
77-85, 1:02 left, US begins fouling...

Oh happy day. :rolleyes:

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:47 PM
Argentina 87
USA 77

Under 1 min , AI bLOWS A LAY UP

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:48 PM
81-89 FINAL

USA loses.

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:49 PM
That's Sad we can beat Spain which I think is one of the best teams , but we can't beat Argentina ?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Shade
08-27-2004, 02:50 PM
So, we'll play either Italy or Lithuania for the bronze, and both teams have already beaten us. Great. :unimpressed:

TheSauceMaster
08-27-2004, 02:51 PM
So, we'll play either Italy or Lithuania for the bronze, and both teams have already beaten us. Great. :unimpressed:



Yep Like I said in one of my other threads , if we get any medals , we would be very , very lucky ..not so sure we will even get a Bronze.

Harddrive7
08-27-2004, 02:53 PM
Good, I'm glad. Maybe next year they'll ask someone who can shoot the ball from 15-18 ft to come along. Tlaking about no heart.

obnoxiousmodesty
08-27-2004, 02:57 PM
The team already gave up when they stopped trying to foul with 50 seconds left. :irked:

Shade
08-27-2004, 02:59 PM
If we lose tomorrow, it will be the 7th loss in the last 3 years. Wow.

tora tora
08-27-2004, 03:00 PM
Whoever invited Richard Jefferson on that team needs to be shot... point blank.

sixthman
08-27-2004, 03:08 PM
I don't think these guys will give up in the bronze medal game. Maybe Reggie Miller had it right when he predicted a bronze.

A lot depends on whether the team can hit some threes. When we hit them we are better than anyone else, when we don't we are not all that hot.

You have to admire the leadership of Ginobili on the Argentinian team. He willed his team to victory. But the win was by no means a one-man victory. Lots of guys contributed for the South Americans. Isn't it clear that United States citizens are no longer the only ones who can play basketball.

Fool
08-27-2004, 03:45 PM
We have had to play against the zone for decades in the olympics, there is no reason that we can't teach great players an offense to break it down.

There is an offense to break it down and they were running it. Its not that they weren't in an offense to beat the zone, its that they couldn't. The zone is designed specifically to take away any points from inside. The three things that work effectively against it are 1) dumping it into a big man who already has position so as to be able to score before the collapse of the D and 2) collapsing the D and kicking it out to the open perimeter shooter and 3) setting high screens and taking shots before the zone can rotate over to compensate.

In which games didn't the US do those things? How do Brown and Pop take the blame missed shots and inexperience with how international refs call things?

BTW, thanks for the play by play. I didn't get over here in time to catch it live but it was still nice to read after the fact.

MagicRat
08-27-2004, 05:09 PM
http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5053192/detail.html

Italy beat Lithuania.

DisplacedKnick
08-27-2004, 05:52 PM
http://www.nbcolympics.com/results/5053192/detail.html

Italy beat Lithuania.


Well, that means no medal for us. Or maybe they'll suck it up.

Gotta laugh - On the Knicks board someone asked who we wanted to play the rest of the way. I said it didn't matter who we wanted to play - we would play Argentina and Lithuania. Just didn't think the second game would be for a bronze medal ...

BostonConnection
08-27-2004, 07:09 PM
*Sigh* Just got home. I was going to keep away from all radio and TV and just wait until I watched my video tape of the game to find out what happened, but I finally gave in and checked on the final score. You know, despite the fact that you could predict this outcome based on the way Team USA has performed (or rather, not performed) this whole Olympics, it's still disappointing.