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avoidingtheclowns
11-22-2010, 06:18 PM
BEAT THE HEAT!


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Game Time Start: 7:30 PM EST
Where: American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL
Officials: M. Callahan, T. Brown, O. Poole

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<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><TR><TD align="top"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=3>Season Records: (W-L)</TH></TR>
<TR><TD>:xpacers:</TD><TD align=middle width=70><CENTER>5-6</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>(Road: 2-2)</CENTER></TD></TR>
<TR><TD>:heat:</TD><TD align=middle width=70><CENTER>8-5</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>(Home: 6-2)</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>

<TD valign="bottom"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=5>Upcoming Games:</TH></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>Nov 23</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 26</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 28</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 30</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Dec 01</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>vs :cavaliers:</TD><TD>vs :thunder:</TD><TD>at :lakers:</TD><TD>at :kings:</TD><TD>at :jazz:</TD></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>8:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>9:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>10:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>9:00 pm</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>PACERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/josh_mcroberts.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/mike_dunleavy.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/darren_collison.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HIBBERT</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>McROBERTS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>GRANGER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>DUNLEAVY</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>COLLISON</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor= #CC0000 colSpan=6>HEAT - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/zydrunas_ilgauskas.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chris_bosh.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/lebron_james.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jerry_stackhouse.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/carlos_arroyo.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>ILGAUSKAS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BOSH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>JAMES</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>STACKHOUSE</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>ARROYO</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=4>Semi-Relevant Trivia:</TH></TR><TR><TD>
Which of these players was not<br>drafted by the Miami Heat?</TD><TD>A. Bruce Bowen<br>B. Marcus Thornton<br>C. Sherman Douglas<br>D. Grant Long</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4>A. Bruce Bowen<br>B. Marcus Thornton<br>C. Sherman Douglas<br>D. Grant Long<br><br>Bruce Bowen went undrafted in 1993. Marcus Thornton was<br>drafted by the Heat #43 in 2009 with Indiana's pick<br>from the Stanko Barac deal. Thornton was then traded to<br>New Orleans on draft night. Sherman Douglas was the<br>first pick of the second round in 1989. With the 33rd overall<br>pick in the 1988 draft, Miami selected Grant Long.</TH></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Semi-Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xsQ_U5YnOxU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xsQ_U5YnOxU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Minimally Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_sarYH0z948?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_sarYH0z948?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></TD></TR></TABLE>

rock747
11-22-2010, 06:21 PM
Please don't play Wade!

Trophy
11-22-2010, 06:26 PM
The Danny/LeBron matchup is gonna be fun as usual.

Danny always steps up against LeBron and with Danny's D looking really good, it's going to be fun to see.

We do have a good chance of winning. We kept it close to Orlando who appears to be better than the Heat and went out and played hard.

kester99
11-22-2010, 06:28 PM
We won't see Haslem, I understand. He's never kind to us.

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I made it to the 1:25 mark of the Caruso video. Anybody got the stomach for the full 7:17?

Psyren
11-22-2010, 06:30 PM
If Wade doesn't play, we have a legit chance to win.

I've yet to be impressed by Miami. Maybe they show us up, maybe they don't, but there's no excuse not to have a chance to beat these guys.

Sookie
11-22-2010, 06:31 PM
Darren's back, and he'll be able to make the Miami PG's pay for being pathetic. :P

And with Hibbert at the center..Danny to guard Lebron, and Rush to guard Wade (if he plays) we actually have a shot here.

pwee31
11-22-2010, 06:44 PM
Haha love the 7 cabbages video.

I hope Wade doesn't play either. Dunleavy may actually be able to guard Stackhouse. I hope Danny doesn't get into foul trouble on Lebron. Here's hoping the Heat continue to shoot jump shots (and not make them)

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 06:51 PM
Am I the only one that thinks two of the teams we match up with best in the East are the Heat and Magic?

TMJ31
11-22-2010, 06:54 PM
Alright Pacers... I am sitting at my wife's side in the hospital right now. Her water just broke and our baby should come sometime tonight...

Pull out a victory for our little tyke!!!

(Hopefully no one will spoil the game for me before I get home from the hospital to watch it on DVR!)

Sookie
11-22-2010, 06:55 PM
Am I the only one that thinks two of the teams we match up with best in the East are the Heat and Magic?

I think so too.

Darren's going to drive the Miami PGs nuts, and they aren't even going to force him to defend..(unless we see a whole lot Ford..then the offense is going to get ugly)

Dominant post players can really beat up the Heat, we've got that in Hibbert.

And if Danny's playing good defense, we can guard Wade and Lebron as well as anyone with Danny and Rush. Only thing is, Wade seems to be the one perimeter player that Rush struggles to guard. I think Wade's too quick for him. But my guess is Rush can guard Wade as well as anyone except maybe Kobe.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 06:57 PM
that eposide of replay was pretty good.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 06:59 PM
Alright Pacers... I am sitting at my wife's side in the hospital right now. Her water just broke and our baby should come sometime tonight...

Pull out a victory for our little tyke!!!

(Hopefully no one will spoil the game for me before I get home from the hospital to watch it on DVR!)

Dude congrats!

Sookie
11-22-2010, 07:06 PM
Rush is starting..good call Jimmy.

edit: Congrats on the baby!

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:09 PM
Rush is starting..good call Jimmy.

edit: Congrats on the baby!

Rush starting is better news than the baby even haha.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:10 PM
Also, I wonder if the Heat fans are going to "Fan Up" tonight LOL priceless.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:10 PM
Rush starting is better news than the baby even haha.

lol :dance::dance:

PacerPenguins
11-22-2010, 07:12 PM
can Z really guard Hibbert? no.....

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:12 PM
wade playin

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Watching Stacey Paetz and this Heat guy is terrible.

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 07:13 PM
would be nice to see Hansbrough get some playing time tonight, i think he can play bosh well defensively. bosh is kinda soft, and i think hansbrough will intimidate him and not allow any second chance points.

if o'brien puts posey on bosh tonight i will be tempted to turn the game off.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:13 PM
Haslem bigger lost than wade LOL this guy is dumb

Trophy
11-22-2010, 07:14 PM
Watching Stacey Paetz and this Heat guy is terrible.

I wanna hear more about us not this guy.

PacerPenguins
11-22-2010, 07:14 PM
wade playin

is that a question or a statement???

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:14 PM
would be nice to see Hansbrough get some playing time tonight, i think he can play bosh well defensively. bosh is kinda soft, and i think hansbrough will intimidate him and not allow any second chance points.

if o'brien puts posey on bosh tonight i will be tempted to turn the game off.

No Bosh is a really soft jump shooter

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:15 PM
is that a question or a statement???

D wade is starting was just confirmed so statement

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 07:18 PM
No Bosh is a really soft jump shooter

he plays soft imo. not agressive at all. pau gasol is soft but he has a european style of play so its a legitimate excuse. bosh should play like a prick on the court and he would be alot harder to stop. just having some attitute.. Foster has attitude!!!

PacerPenguins
11-22-2010, 07:18 PM
D wade is starting was just confirmed so statement

damn this sux, well hes not 100% but still its d wade. we just need to feed hibbert the ball the whole game. we just need to take advantage of our pg and center situation... i can see rush doing a good job on wade and danny doing a good job on lebron but i just dont see mcbob guarding bosh.

Trophy
11-22-2010, 07:20 PM
I still think Danny and Brandon can hold off LeBron and Wade.

It'll all come down to defense.

sm182
11-22-2010, 07:20 PM
Yahoo boxscores has Ford starting. Either Collison is out or he will be required to "earn" back his starting spot.

Lord Helmet
11-22-2010, 07:20 PM
Fan up, Miami! LMAO LMAO

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:21 PM
damn this sux, well hes not 100% but still its d wade. we just need to feed hibbert the ball the whole game. we just need to take advantage of our pg and center situation... i can see rush doing a good job on wade and danny doing a good job on lebron but i just dont see mcbob guarding bosh.

ya feed hibbert the ball in the low post and slow the tempo down and play solid Defense

Trophy
11-22-2010, 07:22 PM
Yahoo boxscores has Ford starting. Either Collison is out or he will be required to "earn" back his starting spot.

I wouldn't go with Yahoo.

It's been said that DC will be starting. He's good to go and he's our guy at PG.

Sookie
11-22-2010, 07:23 PM
Yahoo boxscores has Ford starting. Either Collison is out or he will be required to "earn" back his starting spot.

Yahoo may be wrong..

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:23 PM
Yahoo boxscores has Ford starting. Either Collison is out or he will be required to "earn" back his starting spot.

or DC is sore and might not be ready and will come off the bench. Or more likely Yahoo is wrong like normal.

pwee31
11-22-2010, 07:24 PM
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 07:24 PM
It's too bad Dunleavy's wife can't have 82 babies a year.

Trophy
11-22-2010, 07:24 PM
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

:mad:

Hopefully he's playing and it'll just be this game that he'll be the backup as he's coming back.

Sookie
11-22-2010, 07:24 PM
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

Bad job Jimmy..

seriously..how can the worst PG be starting..especially at a time when Collison's defense won't even matter..

rock747
11-22-2010, 07:25 PM
D wade is starting was just confirmed so statement

Man, I was hoping the Pacers would catch a break.

nerveghost
11-22-2010, 07:25 PM
This is an awesome post. Congrats

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pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:25 PM
:censored: JOB here comes the TJ isolation offense
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

rock747
11-22-2010, 07:25 PM
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

Here we go....

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:26 PM
Bad job Jimmy..

seriously..how can the worst PG be starting..especially at a time when Collison's defense won't even matter..

on eddie house it will but this is a horrbile cal by JOB

Sookie
11-22-2010, 07:27 PM
on eddie house it will but this is a horrbile cal by JOB

Doesn't eddie house come off the bench..

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:28 PM
The reason for Ford starting had better ****ing be that Collison isn't still 100% or I am going to **** a brick.

daschysta
11-22-2010, 07:28 PM
I'll be angry if ford is starting beyond just this one game. 1 game could just be easing DC back from injury.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:29 PM
Doesn't eddie house come off the bench..

carlos A. starts at pg who cant shoot or do anything for that matter

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:31 PM
Mark Boyle said on the radio show that if Wade is starting Rush starts, if he is out Dunleavy starts, they also said that Collison is still out(not sure)

Kemo
11-22-2010, 07:32 PM
Alright Pacers... I am sitting at my wife's side in the hospital right now. Her water just broke and our baby should come sometime tonight...

Pull out a victory for our little tyke!!!

(Hopefully no one will spoil the game for me before I get home from the hospital to watch it on DVR!)


congrats!!:dance::dance::dance:

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:32 PM
that was the corniest thing i have ever seen by FSN IN

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:33 PM
The reason for Ford starting had better ****ing be that Collison isn't still 100% or I am going to **** a brick.

well, now you know how I feel when I see Dunleavy starting :-p

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:34 PM
OK they just said that DC is playing.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:34 PM
Mark Boyle said on the radio show that if Wade is starting Rush starts, if he is out Dunleavy starts, they also said that Collison is still out(not sure)

chris deniari just said DC is playing

nerveghost
11-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Corny, but i enjoyed it

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cdash
11-22-2010, 07:35 PM
well, now you know how I feel when I see Dunleavy starting :-p

Except you are irrational about Dunleavy. Think he's a lot worse than he really is.

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 07:36 PM
Except you are irrational about Dunleavy. Think he's a lot worse than he really is.

I don't know how he thinks of him, but he is really not good. Really.

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:36 PM
P4E what was the corny thing they said?

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:37 PM
I don't know how he thinks of him, but he is really not good. Really.

We have a different opinion on him. I don't really want to go there again. For the record, I don't think he's that good but I know he's not as bad as you guys make him out to be.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:37 PM
DC is starting, TJ is starting, DC is not even playing, DC is playing....

IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE THIS FOREVER?

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:38 PM
P4E what was the corny thing they said?

when stacy walked out with the script and said breaking news Lebron is on he heat along with Dwade and Bosh. Then Clark was like i thoght the decsion was some DVD. just really corny

Kemo
11-22-2010, 07:39 PM
Here we go....


Ya.. FOREAL... lol

It's not that I don't like TJ.. but I just hate watching him do the same thing over and over again.. aka driving to the lane ahead of everyone with his tunnel vision glasses on..

EVERY time he does that, I wince , because I have very little confidence in
the ball not being turned over..

When DC or AJ is out there , I don't really have that worry.. and it is a breath of fresh air...
But everytime TJ drives into 3 or 4 defenders in the paint ,it makes my butt pucker... (sorry TMI..lol )


I sure hope Tj doesn't try and "show out" and play like his "Mr. Hyde" counterpart of "Me-J" tonight since we are playing Miami ..

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:39 PM
I don't know how he thinks of him, but he is really not good. Really.

I concure

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Maybe they're starting TJ one last time to showcase him in front of the Heat? /Grasping at straws to maintain sanity.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:41 PM
Maybe they're starting TJ one last time to showcase him in front of the Heat? /Grasping at straws to maintain sanity.

they cant absorb his contract unless we trade him for bosh or mike miller

Hicks
11-22-2010, 07:42 PM
Ford is starting. Mike Wells tweeted it

That is just BULL ****. I don't care how well TJ plays tonight, it's pure bull****.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:42 PM
:censored: TJ


:censored: JOB

TJ should be in a suit and AJ should be back up im tired of this ****

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:42 PM
they cant absorb his contract unless we trade him for bosh or mike miller

You get out of here with your raining on my parade antics.

pianoman
11-22-2010, 07:43 PM
LETS GO PACERS!!!! WE CAN WIN THIS GAME!!!

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:43 PM
Collison is out there starting it looks like to me....God, Mike Wells sucks at his job.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:43 PM
Collison is out there starting it looks like to me....God, Mike Wells sucks at his job.

no TJ is starting

EDIT: wow FSN showed TJ in the starting lineups 5 seconds b4 tip off

Sookie
11-22-2010, 07:44 PM
Collison is out there starting it looks like to me....God, Mike Wells sucks at his job.

Thank god...but to be fair..everyone was saying Ford was starting..

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:44 PM
Seriously how terrible can Wells be, he's got to be the biggest joke of an NBA beat reporter ever. Collison is starting...I'm not going to believe anything Wells says from now one he is so full of ****.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:45 PM
no TJ is starting

Are you watching the freakin' game?

Hicks
11-22-2010, 07:45 PM
That is just BULL ****. I don't care how well TJ plays tonight, it's pure bull****.

Hooray! False alarm! DC starting.

I was ready to choke someone.

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:45 PM
Collison started. All is well.

Dr. Hibbert
11-22-2010, 07:46 PM
Who was that foul on? Obviously this broadcast sucks.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:46 PM
Collison the foul.


Roy just got his **** tossed by Zydrunas.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:47 PM
And Rush forces Wade into an airball and Roy fumbles the ball out of bounds.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:48 PM
Danny is playing some D

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:48 PM
DC is quick

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:49 PM
Danny is playing some D

He's done that all season. Very encouraging.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
DC is abusing carlos

nice roy

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
Love the drive by Rush even if he missed it. Roy very good on the boards after the early fumble.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
How about Rush? he is agressive and I like that

spazzxb
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
Looks like I get to keep my avatar.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:51 PM
Oh God old man Z is looking like Brad Miller against Roy.

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:51 PM
For the record, even though overall I like Dunleavy better than Rush, I like Rush starting tonight against Miami. He defends Wade really well. I expect him to play big minutes tonight.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:52 PM
who do you guys think is softer Mcbob or Bosh?

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:52 PM
Lots of misses early.

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:53 PM
who do you guys think is softer Mcbob or Bosh?

I think that's a joke, but I stopped and thought about it for a minute and couldn't come up with an answer.

pianoman
11-22-2010, 07:53 PM
BIG ROY!!!!!!!

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:53 PM
The Danny and Roy pick and roll is the bread and butter of our offense right now.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:54 PM
love the footwork roy

Kemo
11-22-2010, 07:54 PM
DANNY TO ROY FOR THE AND-1 on the PnR

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:54 PM
damm that place looks empty

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:55 PM
damm that place looks empty

FAN UP MIAMI!

Kemo
11-22-2010, 07:55 PM
Roy with 7 1st quarter pts .so far

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:55 PM
And if Big Z keeps kicking our ***, I'm going to have an attack of some sort.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:55 PM
I think that's a joke, but I stopped and thought about it for a minute and couldn't come up with an answer.

I don't want to be a homer but it looks to me like Bosh is really soft, he is twice softer than JO

Day-V
11-22-2010, 07:56 PM
I don't want to be a homer but it looks to me like Bosh is really soft, he is twice softer than JO

Bosh makes J.O. look like Dale Davis circa 1995.

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 07:57 PM
And if Big Z keeps kicking our ***, I'm going to have an attack of some sort.

I'm totally fine with it. If Ilgauskus and Arroyo beat us, it just isn't meant to be.

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
I don't want to be a homer but it looks to me like Bosh is really soft, he is twice softer than JO

I think he is softer than JO.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
ARGH, this game has been incredibly sloppy.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
glad the heat didnt get amare or boozer

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
Granger is locking down Lebron.

Dr. Hibbert
11-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Josh is painfully bad on offense at times.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Ilgauskas looks like a young Shaq out there wtf?

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Z block on jmac lol ugg juwan howard lol

cdash
11-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Granger always brings it against LeBron. His D looks good again.

If I knew nothing about basketball and watched this game, I would think Zydrunas Ilgauskas is the best player on the Heat.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Roy needs to work on his mid range jumper. We're getting beat by Arroyo and Z this is unacceptable.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:00 PM
ROY GO TO THE LOW POST AND POST SUM 1 UP PLEASE

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:01 PM
They need to get Roy on the post, what are they doing? punish the midgets.....................:censored:

spazzxb
11-22-2010, 08:01 PM
I just want to make the point that JOB made a smart coaching move with the starting lineup tonight. One I predicted last week as proof Job isn't mentally challenged.

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
We need to hit a dang shot.

We're getting good looks, scratch that great looks.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
It'd be nice if Hibbert did that every time.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
I just want to make the point that JOB made a smart coaching move with the starting lineup tonight. One I predicted last week as proof Job isn't mentally challenged.

You spoke too soon, there is Posey, Ford and Dun............... is blowing out time

Dr. Hibbert
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
Might be switching to MNF tonight. Sorry, Pacers. Not that they're sucking or anything, but I've seen every game to this point and I'm pretty sure I know how this movie is going to end.

jcouts
11-22-2010, 08:03 PM
miami threatening to go on a run...posey in :)

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Granger's D is ridiculous good.

Someone has to let Granger know that he has Wade coming from behind like that.

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Danny Granger is an amazing defender.

I hate weak and soft officials. Thats Roy's second.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Dunleavy on wade LOL this should be interesting

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:03 PM
I have to think that Roy will start making his mid-range jumpers. He has too nice of a touch not to.

kester99
11-22-2010, 08:04 PM
We need to hit some shots.


Captain Obvious signing off.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:04 PM
DJ shoud have been replacing Rush, is Jim really thinking that Dunleavy has any chance to cover him? :rolleyes:

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Granger's D is ridiculous good.

Someone has to let Granger know that he has Wade coming from behind like that.

Yeah. That was ugly.

Yuck. TJ Ford.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:05 PM
Roy has to be better than 3/8. That's just not going to cut it.

Psycho T
11-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Good D so far especially Granger.

Posey in before Hans... :scream:

graphic-er
11-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Looks like the heat have gotten away with alot of fouls so far. Several on Lebron.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Tyler should be in to punish those guys inside

PaceBalls
11-22-2010, 08:07 PM
Kudos to Jim for keeping Mike out for 9 minutes to start the game, but god... he shouldn't play in this game at all.

We need more H'Bro.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:07 PM
WTF Solomon Jones?

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:07 PM
Solo is in :suicide:

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
Roy has to be better than 3/8. That's just not going to cut it.

he needs to post up not take 18 fters i mean Jamal Maglore is in lol

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
Foster is hurt again apparently.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
**** THIS LINEUP

croz24
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
Roy has to be better than 3/8. That's just not going to cut it.

roy actually has 9pts on 4/9 shooting. they gave rush 2pts for a roy basket.

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
Did he really just bank in a free throw?

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
I hate Solomon Jones. Him and James Posey is probably going to let this lead really cut in..

How many fouls does Roy have?

Can't we play anyone besides Solo at backup center? I don't think I have ever seen such a terrible player in a Pacer uniform.

sm182
11-22-2010, 08:09 PM
Hibbert should not have the green light on 20 footers. So stupid. He needs to use his size to get higher quality shots inside.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:09 PM
So, uh, Granger's passing is pretty good too now.

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 08:09 PM
i do not understand why we do not start hansbrough over mcroberts, basically denying the inevitable. mcroberts is not the pf of the future for the pacers, hansbrough actually has a chance to be.

i like mcroberts, but its time to see what hansbrough can give us in the starting lineup. if o'briens is gonna play posey in order to have his stretch 4, then the minutes need to go to hansbrough, not mcroberts.

* now o'brien puts solo in over tyler.. really, other than 3 inches what does solo really give us that tyler doesnt.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:10 PM
Nice Dun, way to show your team defense :laugh:

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:10 PM
roy actually has 9pts on 4/9 shooting. they gave rush 2pts for a roy basket.

That makes it a little better. I thought his rebounding total seemed low.

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:10 PM
I know Danny's stats are down a little, but this is the best all around basketball he's ever played.

And I think Rush needs the lion's share of the SG minutes, but we need Dunleavy's offense off the bench. The Heat's D is too good to put a non-threat like Dahntay out there.

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:10 PM
Can we stop giving away free points by fouling?

Can we stop shooting threes?

Danny is such a good , great, defender when he tries.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:11 PM
Granger's shot is way off right now.

Day-V
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
****ing Lebron.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
Talk about pulling it out of your ***...

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
I hate Solomon Jones. Him and James Posey is probably going to let this lead really cut in..

How many fouls does Roy have?

Can't we play anyone besides Solo at backup center? I don't think I have ever seen such a terrible player in a Pacer uniform.

start hansbrough, and let mcbob play backup center.. hell i think hansbrough is tough enough he can play either the 4 or 5.

solo sucks.

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
**** Lebron James. Wow. I almost hate him as much as I hate Solomon Jones.

righteouscool
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
roy actually has 9pts on 4/9 shooting. they gave rush 2pts for a roy basket.

He also had 2 rebounds he isn't credited with.

croz24
11-22-2010, 08:13 PM
so you're allowed to hold the ball against your hip then take another dribble?

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:13 PM
Whoever is the scorekeeper for this game blows. I've seen the end of quarter score as 22-19, 23-19 and 24-19. Which is it?

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:14 PM
Hibbert should not have the green light on 20 footers. So stupid. He needs to use his size to get higher quality shots inside.

this is the shot JOB craves he loves the 20 fter for a 7"2 center idk why

righteouscool
11-22-2010, 08:15 PM
this is the shot JOB craves he loves the 20 fter for a 7"2 center idk why

I think Roy will eventually start making them, but he should be posting up against this team.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:15 PM
so you're allowed to hold the ball against your hip then take another dribble?

if u havent dribbled yet. That is a triple theat move

croz24
11-22-2010, 08:15 PM
He also had 2 rebounds he isn't credited with.

and that pisses me off as a hibbert fantasy owner

cordobes
11-22-2010, 08:15 PM
Foster is out with a back injury.

The 2nd unit did a decent job, if it wasn't for LeBron's buzzer beater they would have cut Miami's lead.


Hibbert should not have the green light on 20 footers. So stupid. He needs to use his size to get higher quality shots inside.


he needs to post up not take 18 fters i mean Jamal Maglore is in lol

Hibbert on post ups - 43%

Hibbert on 16-23ft jumpers - 40%

Small difference.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
please punish the midgets please...............................:mad:

spazzxb
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
You spoke too soon, there is Posey, Ford and Dun............... is blowing out time

He didn't start dunleavy on wade. You know how people talk about dunleavy getting favoritism. Just pointing out that Jim makes decisions based on match ups.

Kuq_e_Zi91
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
so you're allowed to hold the ball against your hip then take another dribble?

depends on who you are.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
TJ Ford coming out on fire...

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
I think Roy will eventually start making them, but he should be posting up against this team.

he was effetive posting up agasit howard nuff said. I will take a high % post up move over 20fters any day of the week.

Sookie
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
TJ Ford coming out on fire...

wait till he starts missing..

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:17 PM
Clark Kellog with some fantastic analogizing right now.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:18 PM
I love Rush D on Wade he is just nice

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:18 PM
The next time Solomon Jones blocks out will be the first time.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:18 PM
Posey for the pullup 3

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:18 PM
We are making some shots now...

Day-V
11-22-2010, 08:18 PM
Clark Kellog with some fantastic analogizing right now.

Oh, I've got it all covered: http://www.twitter.com/ClarkismKellogg

Clark is bringing his A game tonight. Awesome stuff.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
solo is so effective lol 2 rebs career high??

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
Clark Kellog with some fantastic analogizing right now.

You have to marinate the fruit before you harvest it from the tree of penetration.

Hibbert
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
Bosh looks like Clifford the big red dog.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
nice pass from rush to dun for the reverse layup on the fastbreak...

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
Lovin' me some Brandon Rush tonight.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
There is Rush basketball IQ ..................:D

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:21 PM
There is Rush basketball IQ ..................:D

no only dunleavy has high B BALL IQ he is the glue to our team :rolleyes:

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:22 PM
Once you get done seasoning your adversity you cook that in ze oven at 'bout 350 degrees for three or four hours...

http://www.emptynestfullheart.com/.a/6a010537202515970b0120a69cd871970b-800wi

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:22 PM
And holy crap Don King, how crazy can you look.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:23 PM
B rush has no b ball IQ lol

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:23 PM
Ford is playing really well.

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:23 PM
no only dunleavy has high B BALL IQ he is the glue to our team :rolleyes:

Nobody has ever said that, and this sort of thing is exactly why I hate you guys and your Dunleavy/Rush thing.

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 08:23 PM
for crying out loud.. posey on bosh. obrien sucks.

Sookie
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
Ford is playing really well.

Someone wants to play for the heat...:laugh:

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
:eek: what a shot

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
"take that lebron" hahha

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
WTF TJ Ford is feeling it. Who would have thought this motley crew of a second unit would get us the lead?

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
FORD!

QuickRelease
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
Look at this Ford kid!!!!!!!!!!

sm182
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
I pick up Ford as my fantasy player when Collison is out and he's horrible. Now Collison is back, so I dump Ford and he suddenly seems to produce. What a dick.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
Hans'bro in.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:24 PM
I gotta give it up for TJ .. he has been playing very nice this game..



thus far.......

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
And Hans immediately fouls Bosh...

:picard:

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
Hans on softy I like that

Hibbert
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
All you Ford haters keep hating but he is helping this team more than you care to know this year.

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
Tyler has about as much chance on Bosh as Dunleavy does on Wade.

spazzxb
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
Bang him up Tyler, let's see if he's soft

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
...Twice

Double...
:picard:

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
BS CALL

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 08:26 PM
Yep, two fouls right away. That's not surprising. He can't guard him.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:26 PM
So do the Heat always shoot like 50 free throws a game?

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:26 PM
Best game I seen TJ playing so far

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:27 PM
Soft refs. Soft.
I have never complained about officiating as much as I have this year. Man.


In the penalty... damn.

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:27 PM
LeBron is shooting free throws? What the ****? His back was towards the basket and he was trying to pass the ball.

croz24
11-22-2010, 08:27 PM
lol 15-1

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:27 PM
So do the Heat always shoot like 50 free throws a game?

normaly :censored: LBJ and wade nealy get 30 combined

Hibbert
11-22-2010, 08:28 PM
If you get within 2 feet of Lebron when he has the ball its an automatic foul

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:28 PM
Our bench is playing well? What universe is this?

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:28 PM
Please put Posey or Josh back on Bosh. Please.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:28 PM
Rush 2 solo

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't care if Chris Bosh is on the Heat now, he still looks like a raptor. I mean he literally looks like a dinosaur.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:29 PM
chris bosh cant belive he got called 4 a foul lol

PaceBalls
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
Good stuff, I approve of Jim O'brien's substitutions so far.

Hibbert
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
I don't care if Chris Bosh is on the Heat now, he still looks like a raptor. I mean he literally looks like a dinosaur.

haha classic

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
Yep, two fouls right away. That's not surprising. He can't guard him.

takes a minute to get the blood flowing.. smart of the heat to go immediately into the post to bosh with a guy who just got off the bench. take my chances with hansbro over posey anyday on the defensive end.

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
Boston is raping Atlanta right now. 72-44 in the ATL. Ouch.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
I wanna see what Tyler can do in the offensive side againts the softy Bosh

Hicks
11-22-2010, 08:31 PM
Yep, two fouls right away. That's not surprising. He can't guard him.

When the refs call phantom fouls, it's extra tough to play D.....

PacersPride
11-22-2010, 08:31 PM
Tyler has about as much chance on Bosh as Dunleavy does on Wade.

are you serious? no additional comment needed here.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:32 PM
please young pg's dont listen to TJ

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:32 PM
Rush is playing really, really well tonight.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:32 PM
Rush has been playing like a different player since he has been back..

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:32 PM
I want to take this Brandon Rush and put him in my pocket for the rest of the season.

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn :dance:

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Danny KNEW Arroyo was going to foul him. Smart play.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Granger 3 AND-1 Danny showin up Lebron

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Granger lays down a big ol' BOMB of a three pointer! AND 1 MOTHA ****AS

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
that must of been wat job was trying to draw up saturday lol

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
DANNY GRANGER!!!!

We look like a team that is being led by good leaders. We look mentally tough right now. Same with last game.

sm182
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Contemplating if I should drop Collison for Ford.

idioteque
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
I don't think I've seen the Pacers play this well for a 6 minute stretch since well...Reggie and Rik were here.

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
When the refs call phantom fouls, it's extra tough to play D.....

I thought they were legit calls personally. Bosh is the worst possible matchup for Hansbrough. He is too quick.

He could be effective against Haslem.

kester99
11-22-2010, 08:33 PM
This is mighty sweet so far.

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
Brandon Rush is making the Heat his *****.

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
23-5 scoring run by Indiana

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
Man Miami looks lifeless. This is probably the sixth time I've watched them this season...the just don't play with any passion. It doesn't look like they care.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
B rush

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
Okay, when Rush wants to be good, he can be good. I've never seen this quickness by him.

Up by 16. Damn.

I won't hold my breath though.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
i hope we blow them out by 40

vnzla81
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
that is the Rush we wanted when he was drafted

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:34 PM
Holy crap, I think we've found our shooting guard again.

idioteque
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
This is the Brandon Rush we traded for!

Mackey_Rose
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
My complaints about Dunleavy over Rush are looking justified right now.

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
TYLER

Trader Joe
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
Jesus Granger and Rush are putting on a clinic with their passing.

BringJackBack
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
HANSBROUGH!!! I LOVE PLAYING TEAMS WITH NO DEFENSE!!!

Kemo
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
wow, nice pass from danny to hans for the dunk

pacer4ever
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
NICE D DC

cdash
11-22-2010, 08:36 PM
On the offensive end, I like Hansbrough going against Bosh. Bosh is soft and doesn't like that bull in a china shop type of game that the one man wrecking machine plays.

idioteque
11-22-2010, 08:36 PM
Our offense just looks so sharp. I don't think I've ever seen a JOB offense run like this.