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avoidingtheclowns
11-16-2010, 05:37 PM
Pluck the Hawks!


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Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
Where: Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
Officials: B. Kennedy, C. Blair, T. Brothers

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<TABLE border=0 bordercolor=black cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><TR><TD align="top"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=3>Season Records: (W-L)</TH></TR>
<TR><TD>:xpacers:</TD><TD align=middle width=70><CENTER>4-4</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>(Home: 2-2)</CENTER></TD></TR>
<TR><TD>:hawks:</TD><TD align=middle width=70><CENTER>7-4</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>(Road: 4-1)</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>

<TD valign="bottom"><TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=5>Upcoming Games:</TH></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>Nov 18</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 20</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 22</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 23</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>Nov 26</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD>vs :clippers:</TD><TD>vs :magic:</TD><TD>at :heat:</TD><TD>vs :cavaliers:</TD><TD>vs :thunder:</TD></TR><TR><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>7:00 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>7:30 pm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>8:00 pm</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>PACERS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/josh_mcroberts.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/mike_dunleavy.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tj_ford.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HIBBERT</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>McROBERTS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>GRANGER</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>DUNLEAVY</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>FORD</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor= #CC0000 colSpan=6>HAWKS - Projected Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/al_horford.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/josh_smith.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/marvin_williams.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/joe_johnson.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/mike_bibby.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>HORFORD</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SMITH</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>WILLIAMS</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>JOHNSON</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>BIBBY</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=2>Tru Warier Rhymes:</TH></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.studioexpresso.com/Newsletters/2009/July/ArtestWarier.gif</TD><TD align=middle width=250><CENTER>Doesn't matter that he's awkward<br>Doesn't matter that he's pale<br>Ladies let me introduce to you<br>Atlanta's Best Dressed Male (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-10-man-rotation-starring-Atlanta-s-best-dr?urn=nba-285776)</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Minimally Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mfXYyCJYY40?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mfXYyCJYY40?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=1>Slightly More Relevant Video:</TH></TR><TR><TD><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/txVHLG342CU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/txVHLG342CU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0 x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE border=2 bordercolor=black><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=5>StankoLover Say:</TH></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.acb.com/fotos_cara/jugadores/JBDQLACB55.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD>
COLLISON NO HAVE HEALTHY MAKE PACERS OF INDIANA BAD OFFENSE.
STANKO WORRY HAWKS MAKE MANY OF TRANSITION BASKET. MCROBERTS
AND SMITH MEAN MANY SLAMMING DUNK HAPPEN? HIBBERT NEED
NO FOULING HORFORD. NEED SCORE DUNK AND SHOT HOOK.
STANKO BET ATLANTA, STANKO MAKE MONEY.

<CENTER>STANKOLOVER SAY: HAWKS 113 - PACERS 97</CENTER></TD></TR></TABLE>

cordobes
11-16-2010, 05:51 PM
Off-topic: That Stankolover prediction reminded me of something I've been forgetting: Stanko Barac signed a contract extension with his team that will run till 14/15. It was a couple of weeks ago, but I forgot about telling you guys. I'm not sure about NBA buyout clauses yet. That shouldn't be much of a deal anyway. He had a very strong start of the season, earned that extension. I'll try to write an update on his game one of these days.

Funny game thread.

cdash
11-16-2010, 06:00 PM
I can only pray that Stanko actually speaks in such a manner. It would be crushing to me if he came over here in 2015 speaking fluent English. I want broken, nonsensical **** coming out of his mouth.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 06:01 PM
I hope StankoLover Say becomes a staple of game threads.

PaceBalls
11-16-2010, 07:00 PM
I'm with STANKOLOVER on this one. Too much slamming dunk happen... Let's hope the Pacers prove me wrong.

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:07 PM
Am I the only one excited for dunleavy to play defense on Joe Johnson :(

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:11 PM
Wow, the crowd looks awful on TV.

31andonly
11-16-2010, 07:12 PM
Conseco Fieldhouse is soo empty.

Sparhawk
11-16-2010, 07:12 PM
StankoLover has me rolling over here. Good way to start, cause I'm sure it will help keep me from crying early on.

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:15 PM
We are going to get murdered tonight.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Gah, Granger has the nice drive then gets his shot stuffed by smith.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Yep this is not looking good today

Kemo
11-16-2010, 07:18 PM
ROY is ballin

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:19 PM
And some people here don't want Josh smith??

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:19 PM
Can we make a trade for Smith Today?

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:20 PM
2nd chance points and that pick and pop is killing us.

Marlin
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
Am I the only one excited for dunleavy to play defense on Joe Johnson :(

Looks like Granger is guarding Johnson, with Dun on Williams.

Kegboy
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
I'm more excited about StankoLover than any game this year.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
ROY is ballin

2/6 is ballin'?

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
Can we make a trade for Smith Today?

Maybe during halftime!

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:22 PM
TJ Ford is looking like the TJ Ford we know, dribble dribble dribble........................................... ...

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:23 PM
Granger is playing strong D on Johnson.

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:23 PM
Looks like Granger is guarding Johnson, with Dun on Williams.

Yea that was a relief... Only concern is granger trying to stop Johnson and won't get into an offensive rythym. Thats why I like rush can't just focus on D and hitting open shots

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:24 PM
If only Granger would play defense like that all the time.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:24 PM
Horford is stronger than Hibbert :(

cordobes
11-16-2010, 07:24 PM
Excellent from behind post defense from Granger and Horford.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Horford is stronger than Hibbert :(

Horford is heavier too

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:26 PM
Hibbert with more damn travelling violations. I don't know why, but that irks me. The thing is, he does it more often than he gets called for.

Lance George
11-16-2010, 07:27 PM
Incredibly dull, low-scoring 1st quarter thus far.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:27 PM
Damn posey

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:28 PM
I <3 James Posey.

Is that in slow motion?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:28 PM
Posey is insane lmao.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:28 PM
Posey could actually be effective in this game if he plays right.

Kemo
11-16-2010, 07:29 PM
hard to keep posey off the floor when he is playing this good.. as he has in last few games for us..

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:29 PM
Posey has looked much better lately since when we started the season.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:29 PM
Hibbert with more damn travelling violations. I don't know why, but that irks me. The thing is, he does it more often than he gets called for.

Tbf, that was 100% a defensive play by Horford that time. But I know what you meam.

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Posey on offense reminds me so much of a black, right-handed Troy Murphy. 90% of the shots he takes are threes, and when teams start to close on him, he will bust out a random, incredibly slow drive to the hoop. At this point, they have the exact same offensive game.

LoneGranger33
11-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Were we wrong about Posey?

daschysta
11-16-2010, 07:30 PM
This is what it looks like when the vet is actually earning his minutes!!! Posey is the man.

daschysta
11-16-2010, 07:31 PM
Posey on offense reminds me so much of a black, right-handed Troy Murphy. 90% of the shots he takes are threes, and when teams start to close on him, he will bust out a random, incredibly slow drive to the hoop. At this point, they have the exact same offensive game.

The prob with murph was never the offensive game. Posey can actually man up.

ballism
11-16-2010, 07:31 PM
Horford a beast on off rebounds

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:32 PM
Posey on offense reminds me so much of a black, right-handed Troy Murphy. 90% of the shots he takes are threes, and when teams start to close on him, he will bust out a random, incredibly slow drive to the hoop. At this point, they have the exact same offensive game.

The difference is Posey is actually more concerned about playing solid defense than padding his rebounding stats.

I like what I'm seeing out of him lately. Thats for sure.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Posey on offense reminds me so much of a black, right-handed Troy Murphy. 90% of the shots he takes are threes, and when teams start to close on him, he will bust out a random, incredibly slow drive to the hoop. At this point, they have the exact same offensive game.

Except for Troy actually gets to the line..

and James knows how to set a pick.

Rush and Danny really need to get going because TJ is killing me.

Marlin
11-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Posey on offense reminds me so much of a black, right-handed Troy Murphy. 90% of the shots he takes are threes, and when teams start to close on him, he will bust out a random, incredibly slow drive to the hoop. At this point, they have the exact same offensive game.

Difference is, he's not playing 38 minutes every night.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Solomon Jones scored /apocalypse now.

Is Foster dressed or not?

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:34 PM
Yep that is the TJ I know :rolleyes:

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:34 PM
I know what the differences are. I'm just saying they have extremely similar offensive games. Defense, minutes, different.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:34 PM
If solomon jones dunks on you its safe to say you're having a bad night

PacerPenguins
11-16-2010, 07:34 PM
AND....tj blows it :(

PacerPenguins
11-16-2010, 07:35 PM
i cant wait to see price :)

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:36 PM
Did TJ play the whole first quarter?

I just tuned in at the 5 minute mark.. i was taking a nap lmao

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:36 PM
Is Foster really so broken down that I have to continue to watch Solomon Jones in the second unit?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Danny w/ some good passing skills tehre.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:38 PM
The Myth AJ Price is in :dance:

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Rofl soso jones tried to steal the ball from danny he wanted that rebound so bad

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Is Foster really so broken down that I have to continue to watch Solomon Jones in the second unit?

I think it has more to do with it being his former team... Looks like all the guys are really looking for him on the offensive end

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:39 PM
I know right when I say this it's going to go to hell, but we have played really good defense this year. I'm impressed.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:39 PM
Damn what shot

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:39 PM
Rofl soso jones tried to steal the ball from danny he wanted that rebound so bad

If that is the case than I like that.

Danny w/ some good defense.

Doddage
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
Granger is playing fantastic right now. I like how he's trying on defense and getting his teammates involved. Two things he sometimes forgets to do.

PacerPenguins
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
AJ is a monster

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
AJ looking good. Go nuts Sookie!

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
Danny has played good defense all season, I really gotta give him credit. He's applied himself well on the defensive end.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
I like Price, please bench Ford

righteouscool
11-16-2010, 07:40 PM
Granger is playing absolutely lights-out.

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:41 PM
Nice Defense right now. Even Solo is playing really hard on D. Granger looks like an elite defender right now. I want to see more of that.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:41 PM
AJ Price with two very impressive PnRs.

Wow, I am not saying that wasn't an offensive foul by Solo, but damn that call was softer than Charmin. I hate that.

cdash
11-16-2010, 07:42 PM
We really just need to pray that some team loses their point guard so they trade for Ford and his expiring contract. Price looks solid.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:43 PM
We're up by onlyy 6 but we keep this defense up we have a pretty good shot at winning this one how long can we keep this up?

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 07:44 PM
I think it has more to do with it being his former team... Looks like all the guys are really looking for him on the offensive end

He is playing with a lot of energy tonight. If he brought this energy every night he might not be so worthless.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:44 PM
I like the way Price controls the offense he just knows were everybody is.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:44 PM
This D is pretty nasty right now. Price is doing exactly what I wanted him to against the weak defense of the Atlanta PGs.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:45 PM
If we let aj price go we will regret it big time

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:45 PM
We really just need to pray that some team loses their point guard so they trade for Ford and his expiring contract. Price looks solid.

For sure.. And I think we all know that this is not a coincidence.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:46 PM
Another soft call on the PnR

It drove me nuts in the Playoffs when they did this to Kendrick Perkins every single game.

cordobes
11-16-2010, 07:48 PM
When it comes to illegal screens, Solomon Jones is Perkins on steroids.

Kuq_e_Zi91
11-16-2010, 07:48 PM
I'm tired of all this soft **** around the rim. You can't do that against Atlanta. Either look for contact or look to throw it down. No more little floaters and underhand layups in traffic, please.

righteouscool
11-16-2010, 07:48 PM
Price is so much better at controlling the offense than Ford it's not even funny. I don't even dislike Ford, but he's more a shooting guard than he is a point and that is clear when a real point plays.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:49 PM
Our court spacing drives me nuts sometimes when I see someone driving into the lane and get cut off by your own team I die a little inside.

pacers101
11-16-2010, 07:49 PM
Memo to the Pacers:
Bibby doesn't miss when left wide open...

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:49 PM
Another soft call on the PnR

It drove me nuts in the Playoffs when they did this to Kendrick Perkins every single game.

I thought the last one was a good call looked like he stuck out his leg

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:51 PM
Rush making some great passes and doing some great things on D.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Rush is all over the place, man if he ever figured out what turns him on and off offensively...watch out. I don't expect that to happen, but I love watching him play D.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Brandon!!

Roy playing with some energy!! I love this. Just playing like a solid team... of course, we have to do this for 48 minutes.

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Love brandons D

righteouscool
11-16-2010, 07:52 PM
The best D a O'Brien team has played?

odeez
11-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Does Mcbob have any post moves?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:53 PM
The best D a O'Brien team has played?

No.

cordobes
11-16-2010, 07:53 PM
The best D a O'Brien team has played?

Not even close.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:54 PM
Ugh, two silly fouls costing us these past two trips.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 07:54 PM
The best D a O'Brien team has played?

lets not go crazy here

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:54 PM
We're going on a foul streak now..

righteouscool
11-16-2010, 07:54 PM
I mean in his tenure as a Pacer coach/

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:55 PM
Someone made a mention I think in the last game thread or post game thread that josh doesn't need to have much of a face up game but if he turns and pretends he does that it would help open things up. I think that was a prettty good observation

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:56 PM
Man, I think Posey got that steal clean and fair.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:56 PM
Depends if we keep it up all game.

Mike, Mike, Mike... come in and screw up the defense and make a bone headed play.


These referees are S-O-F-T. They make Javale McGee look like Dale Davis.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 07:56 PM
Respect the effort mike but keep your head up next time

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:57 PM
What a freakin' look from Roy.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 07:58 PM
Granger is just smothering Johnson.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 07:58 PM
Man, Roy bailed us out there on a broken play.

flox
11-16-2010, 07:58 PM
Our team defense is looking good tonight.

pacers101
11-16-2010, 08:00 PM
How many times does Josh Smith have to score on that drive against Posey before JOB makes a coaching adjustment??? He's scored on 3 drives in a row...

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 08:00 PM
Posey can't handle Josh Smith. Need to get Mcbob on him.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:01 PM
Ok does anyone else think they have the sound of the commentators on Fox Sports turned up way too high? They almost sound disconnected. It's weird. I hate it right now.

Also, why are they interviewing Marquis Teague? Enjoy going to Cheatin' Cal's for a season.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:02 PM
TJ Ford is ****ing me off not closing out on shooters. No one else has to do it but him.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:03 PM
Ford's driving me nuts tonight. One terrible play followed up by something like that pass to Dun which is really good.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:03 PM
Wow, lets hit everything.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:03 PM
Granger is definitely going to the hole more often.

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 08:04 PM
You know Mcroberts has been handling Josh Smith fine all night. Yet Jim continues to let him abuse us. I'm sure its because we need Posey to spread the floor. :rolleyes:

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:04 PM
How many times does Josh Smith have to score on that drive against Posey before JOB makes a coaching adjustment??? He's scored on 3 drives in a row...

Isn't him a defensive machine?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:05 PM
Look at that hustle!!

Posey with the 100% effort rebound followed by two boards by TJ!

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:05 PM
GREAT HUSTLE from TJ. I mean just great. Wow. Awesome play. That really was impressive way to keep after it. I like seeing that.

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 08:05 PM
I dont like dunleavys game

odeez
11-16-2010, 08:05 PM
TJ getting love from the crowd with the nice hustle!

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:05 PM
I dont like dunleavys game

Chucker.

Sookie
11-16-2010, 08:06 PM
Good hustle from TJ...lets get a good shot now...*I'm looking at you Dun*

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:06 PM
That was dumb.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:06 PM
Man, I don't know how you don't call that foul...weak.

Magic P
11-16-2010, 08:07 PM
Chucker.

lol, reminds me of that commercial: "hey wood chuck, stop chucking my wood."

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:08 PM
Man, I don't know how you don't call that foul...weak.

That was not a foul

ballism
11-16-2010, 08:09 PM
Wow @ TJ, the man really wants that next contract

daschysta
11-16-2010, 08:10 PM
That was not a foul

That play is called 90 percent of the time.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:10 PM
That was not a foul

Based on the way they've been calling the rest of this game it was.

Young
11-16-2010, 08:10 PM
What gets me are games like these. I think the Pacers should DOMINATE the paint against a team like the Hawks. On one of the first plays of the game Roy was trying to post his man up but they couldn't get him the ball. When he did get the ball he was 18+ feet from the basketball. WTF?

Pacemaker
11-16-2010, 08:11 PM
I'm glad that we are looking like a TEAM !

daschysta
11-16-2010, 08:12 PM
What gets me are games like these. I think the Pacers should DOMINATE the paint against a team like the Hawks. On one of the first plays of the game Roy was trying to post his man up but they couldn't get him the ball. When he did get the ball he was 18+ feet from the basketball. WTF?

Horford is a beast.... So is smith... I don't see how we "should" dominate them, of course Roy can hold his own, but overall their Big men are superior.

Young
11-16-2010, 08:13 PM
Watching Paul George's interview right now and love some of what he is saying...

What are you looking forward to the most? "learning"

Who helped you the most in the workouts? "Roy...he has been like a big brother to me"

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:13 PM
I really hope paul picks things up sooner rather than later I get frustrated with him ball gawking too and looking lost at times but I sure have high hopes for him and helping our cause.

In the by the way department, is tj going to play 42 minutes tonight?

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:13 PM
Based on the way they've been calling the rest of this game it was.

If you pay attention in the replay Posey was moving to his right and it was not even close.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:14 PM
I really don't feel like Smith and Horford have dominated us yet, they have 13 combined points. Bibby's threes are what killed us in that half.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:15 PM
I would also say that I hate to see TJ playing this many minutes, he is just not that good.

cordobes
11-16-2010, 08:15 PM
What gets me are games like these. I think the Pacers should DOMINATE the paint against a team like the Hawks. On one of the first plays of the game Roy was trying to post his man up but they couldn't get him the ball. When he did get the ball he was 18+ feet from the basketball. WTF?

Atlanta outscores their opponents by an average of 16 points in the paint per game - 2nd in the league, only Orlando does better. Horford is an excellent post defender + Smith is very good protecting the rim as a weakside helper.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:16 PM
Lol @ soso jones with more points than horford

Sookie
11-16-2010, 08:16 PM
I really don't feel like Smith and Horford have dominated us yet, they have 13 combined points. Bibby's threes are what killed us in that half.

Well, when you have your PG sinking down at the free throw line, that happens.

We decided we're giving up the three..we'll see if we'll continue to give up the three..

cordobes
11-16-2010, 08:17 PM
Al Horford lead the league in post-up defense last season. Allowed 0.69 points per play, 36 FG% in post-up plays. Statistically, he was the best post defender in the league.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:18 PM
Bibby got at least a couple looks off of TJ helping off of him onto Johnson when Granger and Rush had it taken care of anyway. He doesn't need to help them right now, they had it under control.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:18 PM
I would also say that I hate to see TJ playing this many minutes, he is just not that good.

He's made a lot of good plays. He hasn't closed out on Mike Bibby and no one moves when he is pounding the ball, but he isn't having one of those "I hate TJ" games.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:19 PM
Al Horford lead the league in post-up defense last season. Allowed 0.69 points per play, 36 FG% in post-up plays. Statistically, he was the best post defender in the league.

Amazing. That's great for the post season. Can he guard a Dwight Howard like Shaq or KP can cover him? I'd imagine.

Sookie
11-16-2010, 08:19 PM
Bibby got at least a couple looks off of TJ helping off of him onto Johnson when Granger and Rush had it taken care of anyway. He doesn't need to help them right now, they had it under control.

I think that's the defense though..Price did it too.

So we make a decision, either stay on Bibby or give up the three..but I'm not blaming TJ for that, as it happened too much (and with two different players) to be a players error.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:21 PM
I just don't see the point in helping on Johnson when Granger and Rush have pretty much shut him down right now.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Interesting... we've only took 8 threes.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:22 PM
I just don't see the point in helping on Johnson when Granger and Rush have pretty much shut him down right now.

He is just too good one on one

danman
11-16-2010, 08:22 PM
I would also say that I hate to see TJ playing this many minutes, he is just not that good.

I've actually been pleased with TJ playing within the offense this year. Nice to see the fans give him love for the hustle rebound. He's gotta stop helping off Bibby though... He's hitting the 3.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:22 PM
LOL @ Darren. He looks like a little church boy in that suit.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:24 PM
Offense is looking STAGNANT. Yuck

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:25 PM
Freaking jump shot time. Hilarious.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:26 PM
We look like a comletely different team now.. we need SOME defense wow.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:27 PM
**** it Mike.

Some great D only to have Mike do something stupid.

odeez
11-16-2010, 08:27 PM
DG playing great D tonight!

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:28 PM
Sigh...

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:28 PM
It'll be frustrating if we lose but we keep the defense up, I won't be as upset. ...our offense is flat how many minutes does tj have to play?

31andonly
11-16-2010, 08:28 PM
dunleavy screwing everything up at the moment.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:29 PM
Well, I hate to be pessimistic.. but this is looking like one of those games.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:29 PM
Granger has kicked Joe Johnson's *** up and down the court so far.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:29 PM
First Mike Miller and now Mike Bibby looking like an all star :hmm:

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:30 PM
Mike I swear, I hate you. Soft as these refs tonight.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:30 PM
God I ****ing can't stand Dunleavy what a terrible player to watch. He just plays terrible basketball on both ends.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:30 PM
Oleeeeeeeeeeeeeee by Dunleavy

Kuq_e_Zi91
11-16-2010, 08:31 PM
there's that basketball iq from mike dunleavy.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Well Granger and Hibbert showed up tonight, it's too bad the rest of the starters are MIA.

Dr. Awesome
11-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Faileavy.

pacers101
11-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Damnit Dunleavy sucks

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:32 PM
We need some offenseive discipline... smh smh smh

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:32 PM
Now Posey got three point happy

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:32 PM
Joe johnson bein a ***** cause danny has him on lockdown

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:33 PM
Joe johnson bein a ***** cause danny has him on lockdown

I have a feeling that Joe Johnson is going to get on fire soon

pacers101
11-16-2010, 08:33 PM
Why do we go through these long stretches where we dont move on offense at all...
What happened to giving the ball to Hibbert in the post?? it was working in the first half so stick to it.
And freaking Josh Smith hits a fadeaway three which he probably makes 10% of the time

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:34 PM
Wait til Roy sits out in the fourth.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:34 PM
I have a feeling that Joe Johnson is going to get on fire soon

He's gonna have to do it with Danny inside of his jersey then.

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 08:35 PM
How bout some damn pick and rolls that were working in the first half??!

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:35 PM
Nice foul, JJ.

IUfan4life
11-16-2010, 08:36 PM
I have tried to not be so negative in the game threads, but I hope to not see dunleavy the rest of the game

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:36 PM
Granger wants JJ tonight he wants that matchup. Even with Rush out there Danny is staying on Joe.

Man how did they miss that travel? Jeez.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:36 PM
I wanna kick these refs in the balls.

Ridiculous. Just like the Bucks game.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:37 PM
Indiana is the only team that can get homered at home...

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:38 PM
RUSH!! WOW.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:38 PM
They switched Marvin Williams to Danny now and Johnson is guarding Rush.

This is just ugly.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:38 PM
:eek:

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 08:38 PM
Jesus Brandon what were you smoking on that play.

IUfan4life
11-16-2010, 08:38 PM
why does Rush struggle so much on offense?

It's not like offense is rocket science. You're a professional basketball player. You should at least grasp some sort of offensive concept

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Danny showin' JJ whats up.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Well, about the only positive is that Danny has been the best player on the court so far, Roy's been good too, but has disappeared in the second half.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:39 PM
why does Rush struggle so much on offense?

he thinks pass first too much

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:40 PM
AJ Price just airballed an open 3. He's a terrible shooter.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:40 PM
Don't make danny angry, you wouldn't like him when he;s angry

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:41 PM
Dunleavy in for Granger. Say good bye to this game. Hawks are gonna check out.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:41 PM
This is going to get ugly now... Danny and Roy out.. closing my eyes.

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 08:41 PM
Josh Smith has 13 points. He has scored 11 directly against James Posey.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:42 PM
Wow, about 70% of Mikes shots are threes.

31andonly
11-16-2010, 08:42 PM
this lineup right now is the worst possible way to come back from a 12-point-deficit

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:44 PM
Josh Smith has 13 points. He has scored 11 directly against James Posey.

I was waiting for this game because I knew we were going to see a different Posey today, Smith is making him look like Murphy

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 08:44 PM
If dunleavys shot is falling there's no need for him bring in george!! Maybe he will bring some offensive and at least some energy!

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 08:46 PM
I was waiting for this game because I knew we were going to see a different Posey today, Smith is making him look like Murphy

It wouldn't be a problem if we had a coach capable of adjusting.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:47 PM
It wouldn't be a problem if we had a coach capable of adjusting.

Yeah but he can shoot the three and stretch the floor ;)

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:47 PM
Seriously if you're going to foul and they make a layup for an And1 it's one of the biggest Epic Fails in basketball.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:47 PM
Our defense has been a JOKE this third quarter. JOKE JOKE

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:48 PM
Wow, Jim is going to let us play until we are down by 20.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:49 PM
Rush is trying to be agressive I like that

31andonly
11-16-2010, 08:50 PM
this is f***** ridiculous. At the most critical stage of the game he benches Granger and Hibbert.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:50 PM
What a stupid quarter.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:51 PM
So can we make a trade for Jsmith?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:52 PM
Rush isn't a good shooter off the dribble.. clank clank clank

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 08:54 PM
Nice Roy

edit: bad Roy

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:55 PM
Call me crazy but I think we win this game, might just be blind hope though.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:55 PM
Roy is 4/12 from the field.

4/12 is not very good.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:55 PM
We sure aren't going to cut into this lead if we keep fouling and/or not playing defense.


No matter how hot we get on offense.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:55 PM
Call me crazy but I think we win this game, might just be blind hope though.

You're crazy.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:56 PM
Rush making a conceited effort to get to the line. Good.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:56 PM
Not many teams could have a 10 rebound advantage and still be down by double figures.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 08:57 PM
You're crazy.

Lol I knew I could count on you guys :)

odeez
11-16-2010, 08:57 PM
DG with a great blk!

ThA HoyA
11-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Love the defensive tandem of rush an granger

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Defensive epic fail.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:58 PM
Has anyone else played defense tonight other than Granger and Rush?

Young
11-16-2010, 08:58 PM
This quote sums it up:

"Indiana could have cut it to 5 but instead they trail by 12"

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 08:59 PM
Hibbert 5/14 now...that % isn't acceptable.

odeez
11-16-2010, 08:59 PM
Atlanta so many more options on offense than us, it's sad... outside DG and Roy we don't have much.

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 09:00 PM
Has anyone else played defense tonight other than Granger and Rush?

Josh Smith vs. James Posey = 18 points

Josh Smith vs. Josh Mcroberts = 2 points

Pacemaker
11-16-2010, 09:00 PM
Can Danny dunk the ball down low??

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:00 PM
Has anyone else played defense tonight other than Granger and Rush?

No.

We missed Tyler's aggressiveness and Darren Collison's shot making ability a lot.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 09:00 PM
At least we got to see some good D from Rush and Danny

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:01 PM
Can Danny dunk the ball down low??

Danny doesn't really have good hops.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 09:02 PM
Granger has just done everything for us tonight.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 09:03 PM
GRRRRRRRRRANGER

odeez
11-16-2010, 09:03 PM
DG for 3!

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 09:03 PM
BOOM BABY!

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:03 PM
Danny Granger has been out of his freakin mind recently.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 09:03 PM
TJ was ready to get out of control, nice pass tough

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 09:04 PM
Is there really any doubt who is still the best player on this team? Danny's been brilliant in all facets of the game tonight.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:04 PM
Pick n' Roll rapes up night in and night out.

Dr. Awesome
11-16-2010, 09:05 PM
...and out goes Hibbert.

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:05 PM
What the ****?! Roy needs to be in this whole fourth.

and thats what happens with Solo in and Roy out... wowsers

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 09:06 PM
Players that played well tonight:

Granger


Everyone else:
Meh-horrible.

pacers101
11-16-2010, 09:06 PM
Hey guys were definetly coming back with Solo in to finish the game instead of Hibbert

Pacemaker
11-16-2010, 09:06 PM
So Hibbert out for Soso Jones ??? 6 min to go and down by 12 ??

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:06 PM
Yeah, **** you too Jim. Trying to make us lose on purpose. and And 1 and now a turnover. Keep Roy out you idiot.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 09:07 PM
Nice job Solo, thanks god Roy is out :rolleyes:

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 09:07 PM
Is there really any doubt who is still the best player on this Floor? Danny's been brilliant in all facets of the game tonight.

Fixed.

Hawks have a lot more help for Joe Johnson though, thats for damn sure.

Infinite MAN_force
11-16-2010, 09:08 PM
Loving these brilliant rotations.

odeez
11-16-2010, 09:08 PM
too many options for the Hawks, DG can't beat the whole team.

Trader Joe
11-16-2010, 09:08 PM
I don't want to alarm anyone, but Roy's shooting 44.5% now on the season. Which is pretty terrible for a 7'2" guy. Those are like JO "My Knees are Shot" numbers. It's mildly disconcerting IMO.

TheDon
11-16-2010, 09:08 PM
Watching games like this is just demoralizing from a fan's perspective not much to say other than the hawks are just a better team.

31andonly
11-16-2010, 09:09 PM
I feel sorry for Danny.

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 09:09 PM
I really like this team on the floor, were is Dun? we need his IQ :rolleyes:

odeez
11-16-2010, 09:09 PM
Yeah ,Solo for Hibbert that's a great move, why does JOB keep doing that to ROY?

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:10 PM
Just when it couldn't get worse Mike Dunleavy comes in. fml

idioteque
11-16-2010, 09:10 PM
Area 55 people sitting down FTL (for the record, just one or two of them, and one looked like an older person).

Sookie
11-16-2010, 09:10 PM
I don't want to alarm anyone, but Roy's shooting 44.5% now on the season. Which is pretty terrible for a 7'2" guy. Those are like JO "My Knees are Shot" numbers. It's mildly disconcerting IMO.

That's not a good reason to take him out for Solo..

vnzla81
11-16-2010, 09:11 PM
yep Mike's team defense is amazing :laugh:

BringJackBack
11-16-2010, 09:11 PM
Jim's Pacers basketball. Mike gets his ankles broke nad Solo can't recover while Posey has played more minutes than Josh. Wow.