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Hicks
11-06-2010, 01:36 PM
A simple poll to try to take the pulse of the fan base as of today (11/06/10) on Mike Dunleavy's game.

Sandman21
11-06-2010, 01:41 PM
The only place the Black Hole of Dunleavy belongs is on the bench.

ReggiesUncle
11-06-2010, 01:42 PM
where's the option for "I don't like him and I wish he would retire right now and return any money the Pacers have given him and forfeit the remaining terms of the contract"

ECKrueger
11-06-2010, 01:45 PM
Pretty much feel the same about Dun as I do TJ. Nice, likable guy for the most part from what I can tell, and he can definitely help the team. Although this year that has been debatable. That said I would rather see George or Rush, even DJ get time.

Sandman21
11-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I could live with Dahntay getting Dunleavy minutes....

He may not be able to hit the broadside of a barn either, but his defense is better! :D

beast23
11-06-2010, 01:48 PM
Ouch.... difficult voting selections.

I do think Dunleavy should be starting because we do not have any better all around player to man the position at this time.

I do not "like" Dunleavy, but I also do not "dislike" Dunleavy. So, with the benefit of the doubt and having to choose one or the other, recognizing that I had an opportunity of being unique and/or crash and burning, I selected "like".

count55
11-06-2010, 01:50 PM
Ouch.... difficult voting selections.

I do think Dunleavy should be starting because we do not have any better all around player to man the position at this time.

I do not "like" Dunleavy, but I also do not "dislike" Dunleavy. So, with the benefit of the doubt and having to choose one or the other, recognizing that I had an opportunity of being unique and/or crash and burning, I selected "like".

I don't dislike Dunleavy either, but I chose the option I did because I think Dunleavy should start (even with Rush back), but I don't like the fact that we have a team where I think Dunleavy should start.

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 01:51 PM
This proves my point. Why don't you like the guy? What has he done here to make the guy a dislikable player. He gives back to the Indiana community, he hasn't demanded anything to change, he stays out of trouble. It seems to me that out of everyone on this team when he goes into a shooting slump and because he is a below average defender...everyone here makes him a bad person. I bet if you polled everyone on this board who they would rather have......Mike or Ron Artest...Ron would get the majority of the votes.

beast23
11-06-2010, 01:52 PM
I don't dislike Dunleavy either, but I chose the option I did because I think Dunleavy should start (even with Rush back), but I don't like the fact that we have a team where I think Dunleavy should start.I get it, I respect it and I 110% agree with it.

Mackey_Rose
11-06-2010, 01:56 PM
This proves my point. Why don't you like the guy? What has he done here to make the guy a dislikable player. He gives back to the Indiana community, he hasn't demanded anything to change, he stays out of trouble. It seems to me that out of everyone on this team when he goes into a shooting slump and because he is a below average defender...everyone here makes him a bad person. I bet if you polled everyone on this board who they would rather have......Mike or Ron Artest...Ron would get the majority of the votes.

Ron is the far superior player, so yes in a heartbeat. It isn't personal. I took it as meaning, I don't like him as a basketball player, which if anything is a severe understatement.

BRushWithDeath
11-06-2010, 01:56 PM
The dislike isn't for Mike as a person. It is for Mike as a player.

Pacers4Life
11-06-2010, 01:57 PM
He's just far too intelligent to not start for us. He understands how to keep the offense flowing. Have you ever watched Paul (or Danny) try and throw a pass into Roy? Sometimes its so god awful I can't believe it actuallly got through. I have full confidence in Mike that he will make the play that is best at the time... And as for his shooting right now... Its unbearable. But its just a slump. Have faith

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jhondog28
11-06-2010, 02:00 PM
The dislike isn't for Mike as a person. It is for Mike as a player.

Oh got it. That makes more sense. Doesn't sway me but makes sense.

WhackoJacko
11-06-2010, 02:09 PM
This proves my point. Why don't you like the guy? What has he done here to make the guy a dislikable player. He gives back to the Indiana community, he hasn't demanded anything to change, he stays out of trouble. It seems to me that out of everyone on this team when he goes into a shooting slump and because he is a below average defender...everyone here makes him a bad person. I bet if you polled everyone on this board who they would rather have......Mike or Ron Artest...Ron would get the majority of the votes.

All Mike needs to do to be liked more is beat up his girl friend or wife and get caught 3 times smoking weed. Problem solved.;)

ReggiesUncle
11-06-2010, 02:41 PM
All Mike needs to do to be liked more is beat up his girl friend or wife and get caught 3 times smoking weed. Problem solved.;)

or make more than 35% of his fg's and 24% of his threes to justify the $10 million he is making this season

my dislike is purely basketball related as is all my discussion on this board. I do not nor will I ever know these players on a personal level. I don't pay for season tickets to care what they are like off the court. I only care about the performance on the court.

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 02:48 PM
or make more than 35% of his fg's and 24% of his threes to justify the $10 million he is making this season

my dislike is purely basketball related as is all my discussion on this board. I do not nor will I ever know these players on a personal level. I don't pay for season tickets to care what they are like off the court. I only care about the performance on the court.

Ok then I will keep it on a basketball level. If Rush hadn't done a boneheaded move and gotten himself suspended for 5 games then Dun wouldn't be playing 40 minutes a night and therefore our defense would be better and maybe he could play with the second unit and help them out. I would love to see Dunleavy play along side PG. But no Rush had to smoke some weed and get himself into trouble. But lets overlook that since it does not affect what you are seeing on the court....oh wait...it does doesn't it?

Infinite MAN_force
11-06-2010, 02:59 PM
The fact of the matter is he can't hit the broadside of a barn right now. He has to start hitting shots at some point or he is just a useless player, he sure ain't out there for his defense.

CooperManning
11-06-2010, 03:02 PM
He's just far too intelligent to not start for us. He understands how to keep the offense flowing. Have you ever watched Paul (or Danny) try and throw a pass into Roy? Sometimes its so god awful I can't believe it actuallly got through. I have full confidence in Mike that he will make the play that is best at the time... And as for his shooting right now... Its unbearable. But its just a slump. Have faith

Really? What about the terrible, overthrown pass down the court in last night's game? Being an intelligent player is great if you can execute. Is Mike still capable of that?

Take a look at the FG% last two seasons compared to the two seasons before that:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/109/screenshot20101106at149.png

If I "have faith" and Mike gets his shot back, does that mean he'll be shooting .410 again? That doesn't stack up very well with other starters at his position:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/fieldGoalPct/year/2010/position/shooting-guards

kester99
11-06-2010, 03:06 PM
I voted 'backup' but I could see either Brandon or him starting for the time being, with the other as backup....at the same time keep working PG into more minutes as we go. BUT that Dunleavy jumper has to start falling. I don't know...maybe JOB should set a deadline in his own mind. 'If that shot doesn't come back by game X, then he's working himself out of the main rotation.'

Still, we have to think about Brandon's shot also. Is he going to stay consistent?

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And that bad pass last night was spectacular, but it was Mike's ONE turnover.

Mackey_Rose
11-06-2010, 03:10 PM
I voted 'backup' but I could see either Brandon or him starting for the time being, with the other as backup....at the same time keep working PG into more minutes as we go. BUT that Dunleavy jumper has to start falling. I don't know...maybe JOB should set a deadline in his own mind. 'If that shot doesn't come back by game X, then he's working himself out of the main rotation.'

Still, we have to think about Brandon's shot also. Is he going to stay consistent?

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And that bad pass last night was spectacular, but it was Mike's ONE turnover.

Even if Brandon shoots as poorly as Dunleavy has, the fact that he is a more than competent defender makes Dunleavy obsolete.

PacersPride
11-06-2010, 03:14 PM
this is a great thread to summarize everyones thoughts on Dunleavy. ive been saying this forever and i think some of the PD members get it.. but some overlook this. Dunleavy is a small forward, its his natural postion and defensively he would not be as bad if we played him there. i get that he had a breakout season 2 years ago, but that was then and this is now.

when rush gets back i hope he becomes the starter a few games in, if not right away. we need to know what rush is about this season so that going forward we know which weaknesses are a top priority.

of course O'brien is the coach so what the h3ll happens from here is anyones guess.

* i chose dun as a b/u. frankly, i wouldnt mind resigning him IF healthy a full season to a REASONABLE salary to b/u Granger.. prefer him over posey. i also think dun would be very good in the second unit w/ Price, George, Hansbro.. and whatever center we can find this offseason not named solo to backup Hibbs.

Shade
11-06-2010, 03:16 PM
Dahntay Jones > Mike Dunleavy

Haywoode Workman
11-06-2010, 03:55 PM
All Mike needs to do to be liked more is beat up his girl friend or wife and get caught 3 times smoking weed. Problem solved.;)

Yea I like making myself feel better aout my mistakes and shortcomings by recycling worn out jokes too.

Haywoode Workman
11-06-2010, 03:58 PM
And yes I like dunleavy and think his intelligence is vital, but he's not going to be on the team after this year and he can't hit jumpers or play d so he shouldn't get much time.

BringJackBack
11-06-2010, 04:09 PM
I was going to put "I like Mike, but I think he should be the backup." Then I noticed, he has terrible percentages and his contributions are anything but vital. I used to like his game, but he won't even be here afte this year. We could give the minutes to George, Rush, and Lance, who all have a chance to be here in a couple years.

Call it selfish as Mike may be better than a couple of the players I just mentioned. But he's damaged goods and I'd rather see the supposedly less talented George and Rush play over him (they are better than him in my opinion though).

Trophy
11-06-2010, 04:09 PM
It's tough to decide if he should play or should Posey.

Either way, both guys should play SF only and backup Danny.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 04:32 PM
This proves my point. Why don't you like the guy? What has he done here to make the guy a dislikable player. He gives back to the Indiana community, he hasn't demanded anything to change, he stays out of trouble. It seems to me that out of everyone on this team when he goes into a shooting slump and because he is a below average defender...everyone here makes him a bad person. I bet if you polled everyone on this board who they would rather have......Mike or Ron Artest...Ron would get the majority of the votes.

I believe in two places I specified that the "like" and "dislike" are in reference to his game.

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 04:36 PM
Oh got it. That makes more sense. Doesn't sway me but makes sense.

Hence this post I made 10 posts ago. I retracted my original statement.

d_c
11-06-2010, 04:59 PM
And yes I like dunleavy and think his intelligence is vital, but he's not going to be on the team after this year and he can't hit jumpers or play d so he shouldn't get much time.

If his intelligence really is that vital, then he'll be on the team after this year.

My guess is he won't be on the team next year.

imawhat
11-06-2010, 06:16 PM
I don't like Dunleavy on the court and I think he's gone next year. I wouldn't be torn if he rode the bench, but I'd like to see what he could do with the second unit.

vnzla81
11-06-2010, 06:21 PM
I asked this on the other thread but can anybody tell me what is Mike doing during the game running in circles is he coming or is he going?

vnzla81
11-06-2010, 06:32 PM
Mike Dunleavy after surgery = Wally Serbiac after surgery

Major Cold
11-06-2010, 09:33 PM
I think it is simple.

All the teams we have played pinch Roy in the post (front him with early help). This creates a weakside open shot. Dun is clearly not capitilizing on that shot. Which either forces us to shoot with a incapable shooter or to move away from Hibbert.

I think that the third choice is obvious. Bench him. Heck I would take DJones catching that swing pass and going hard to the rim over Dun laying his bricks.

The thing that I fear is that Roy will no longer get pinched, cause we will not go to him as much as the season moves along.

It is early, but I have never soured on JOB this quick. I have hope that Danny will return back to the first few games. I have hope that as the season goes on the turnovers will stop coming in groves. But what I do not have hope in is the sub pattern. In JOB's time here we have seen the rotation shift, change, stumble, and trip into inconsistency.

If we are yanking Paul George, who was warming up, for a brick layer like last night all the way into December I will be miffed.

Scot Pollard
11-07-2010, 01:00 AM
my girlfriend loves dunleavy and is nervous about the pacers trading him away

i like him hes a cool guy but he shouldnt be starting

DaveP63
11-07-2010, 09:55 AM
As much as I have liked and appreciated him in the past he is starting to wear on me. I find myself most nights just wishing he were playing somewhere else honestly. I like the fact that he makes the offense move when he's on the floor and, unfortunately, I think that's about all he brings to the table anymore...