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dgranger17
11-05-2010, 02:31 PM
Andrew Bogut: AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE, MISS MISS MISS (or SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS or BRICK BRICK BRICK).

Brandon Jennings: One Hit Won-der or Un-der Arm-or

Maggettee: My-ron Pig-gie

I don't know, just a few ideas... anything but CANT SHOOT FREE THROWS

pacer4ever
11-05-2010, 02:33 PM
WE HATE SAMPSON

BillS
11-05-2010, 02:48 PM
How about some chants stirring up people to cheer FOR the Pacers? There's too much focus on cutting down the other team's players, what does that do?

dgranger17
11-05-2010, 03:02 PM
How about some chants stirring up people to cheer FOR the Pacers? There's too much focus on cutting down the other team's players, what does that do?

This is for when they're shooting free throws. Should we chant M-V-P (for Granger or Hibbert) while Bogut is at the line. I mean, we could give it a shot I guess

MTM
11-05-2010, 03:04 PM
For Hibbert: "He's our Lead-er" clap, clap, clap clap clap

For Tyler: "Tyler!" clap clap "Hansbrogh!" clap clap

Anytime Josh dunks on someone: "Facial" clap clap "Facial" clap clap

Danny: "Danny, Danny Danny" just like we did with Reggie

Anytime the bucks have the ball: "Baaammmm-beeee" "Baammmmmm-Beeee"

Scot Pollard
11-05-2010, 03:18 PM
kill the deer! kill the deer! kill the deer!

or chant lets go (female deer i think its called a doh)

orrr haha little boykins! clap clap clap clap clap little boykins!

CableKC
11-05-2010, 03:55 PM
^^^

How about "Doe a Deer, a Deer a female deer!?

mrpeters
11-05-2010, 04:00 PM
WE HATE SAMPSON

Kel-VIN SANC-tions is better

Lance George
11-05-2010, 04:50 PM
I recall "Bogut's ugly" chants back when he was at Utah.

HeliumFear
11-05-2010, 06:03 PM
BUUUUUUUST-GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT (Bust-gut,only really drawn out like airball)

How bout MIP chants for Hibbert at the foul line? I think that would be good for the whole season.

Day-V
11-05-2010, 06:15 PM
I don't think the negative chants are a bad thing, they're mostly funny and harmless. I think, as long as their not TOO personal, keep them up. I love 'em. Positive chants are weak. They don't cause star players to miss Free Throws. "They-Won't-Trade-You" and "Can't-Make-Free-Throws" do.

CableKC
11-05-2010, 06:33 PM
For Maggette, you should chant "Bad Porn"

cdash
11-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Im at this game right now..you guys need to step the **** up. Those bucks fans are so much louder than you guys.

flox
11-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Games like this make me wish I was down in Indy and a part of area 55.

There needs to be some housecleaning tonight.

Hoop
11-05-2010, 10:03 PM
The little Bucks section really out did Area 55 tonight, embarrassingly so.

Psyren
11-05-2010, 10:13 PM
The little Bucks section really out did Area 55 tonight, embarrassingly so.

Agreed. I love Area 55 as much as anyone here, but that was bad. On TV, I could hear the Bucks fans all night, and I'm not sure I ever heard Area 55.

Day-V
11-05-2010, 10:17 PM
Reading El Pacero's tweets, he is NOT happy about tonight's effort.


Can't say I'd blame him.

Dr. Awesome
11-05-2010, 10:23 PM
I'm pissed. I would do anything to be in Area 55(except buy a plane ticket for every game) and here it seems a lot of them are taking it for granted.

Psyren
11-05-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm pissed. I would do anything to be in Area 55(except buy a plane ticket for every game) and here it seems a lot of them are taking it for granted.

Agreed. I'd do anything to be in it as well and there seems like about 10 of them who actually cheer and are into it.

El Pacero does a great job along with Superfan and several others. But there are too many who are a complete waste. Roy needs to kick them out and put people who actually cheer in it.

Day-V
11-05-2010, 10:28 PM
I'm pissed. I would do anything to be in Area 55(except buy a plane ticket for every game) and here it seems a lot of them are taking it for granted.

I mentioned this in another thread. I tried out, but didn't make it, and REALLY wanted to be in it. I love being in that "student-section" of sporting events where I can scream my head off and go crazy for my team, and have other people next to me doing the same thing.

And yet, with Area 55, I'm seeing winners sitting in different sections at Conseco, those who are actually in the section just sitting down and seemingly disengaging from the game, and worst of all, I'm seeing the road team's fanbase wipe the floor with them on their home court.

Roy needs to light a fire under these people. Or kick them out, one of the two.

Psyren
11-05-2010, 10:30 PM
I mentioned this in another thread. I tried out, but didn't make it, and REALLY wanted to be in it. I love being in that "student-section" of sporting events where I can scream my head off and go crazy for my team, and have other people next to me doing the same thing.

And yet, with Area 55, I'm seeing winners sitting in different sections at Conseco, those who are actually in the section just sitting down and seemingly disengaging from the game, and worst of all, I'm seeing the road team's fanbase wipe the floor with them on their home court.

Roy needs to light a fire under these people. Or kick them out, one of the two.
This.

Greenway (Superfan) and El Pacero do great but some people would be better off not being there.

pwee31
11-05-2010, 10:43 PM
I watched on TV and the Bucks section seemed WAY more into the game than Area 55.

I was actually wondering early in the game why Area 55 was so loud when the Pacers were shooting free throws, than I realized it wasn't them at all.

They were also very smart with the shot clocks chants.. it worked a few times, if not, it caused players to take a 2nd glance just in case

grace
11-05-2010, 10:49 PM
You guys do realize that "little Bucks' section" was part of Squad 6, don't you? I recognized the guy with the gold belt.

I was at the game. I'm pretty sure I never heard anything from Area 55 either. I couldn't see them because I was on the other side of the jumbo tron (behind BillS if he wondered who that was cheering for the other team).

Hope you're all sitting down because I have something possitive to say about being at a Pacers game...I like the drums. Seriously. I would have loved it if they would have been around when Kegboy and I had season tickets.

OrganizedConfusion
11-05-2010, 10:54 PM
They were also very smart with the shot clocks chants.. it worked a few times, if not, it caused players to take a 2nd glance just in case

I loved how they tricked TJ into putting up a jumper with 6 seconds left on the shotclock. Their reaction after he sank the shot was priceless!

cdash
11-05-2010, 11:31 PM
You guys do realize that "little Bucks' section" was part of Squad 6, don't you? I recognized the guy with the gold belt.


Yeah I figured as much. They were really loud. It was embarrassing. My first Pacers game at Conseco in a couple years, and it kinda sucked. Lost to a team we should have beaten (without Bogut...we should absolutely beat the Bucks), and their fans took over our arena.

mrpeters
11-05-2010, 11:39 PM
Yeah I figured as much. They were really loud. It was embarrassing. My first Pacers game at Conseco in a couple years, and it kinda sucked. Lost to a team we should have beaten (without Bogut...we should absolutely beat the Bucks), and their fans took over our arena.

VERY embarrassing

i was in section 17 and we were up the whole game as loud as possible trying to get folks in our area to at least chant defense on occasion and it was just deflating to listen to them

but, kudos to them. i think its awesome that they would travel this far I just wish our crew was doing the same thing

JonnyB83
11-05-2010, 11:42 PM
Myself and USF gave up 12th row tickets to go be up by area 55 to try and help out as much as two people could. Obviously it wasn't much, but I have a very sore throat and a headache from yelling.
If people that were given tickets aren't doing their part, they MUST be kicked out. They unlike anyone at the fieldhouse have a job to do. Hopefully Area 55 learned something from squad 6.
I'm thinking us real Pacer fans need to get a group together and head to MIL on Feb 12..... just sayin

pacer4ever
11-05-2010, 11:50 PM
Myself and USF gave up 12th row tickets to go be up by area 55 to try and help out as much as two people could. Obviously it wasn't much, but I have a very sore throat and a headache from yelling.
If people that were given tickets aren't doing their part, they MUST be kicked out. They unlike anyone at the fieldhouse have a job to do. Hopefully Area 55 learned something from squad 6.
I'm thinking us real Pacer fans need to get a group together and head to MIL on Feb 12..... just sayin

ill go to MIL the ticket rep says he can get us tickets to almost any away games

JonnyB83
11-05-2010, 11:59 PM
ill go to MIL the ticket rep says he can get us tickets to almost any away games

Yeah we've talked to our rep about getting tix at a few away games and she said she can normally get them for the season ticker holder price.

imawhat
11-05-2010, 11:59 PM
Area 55 is embarrassing. It's too bad that several people are ruining it for the fans that are trying.

To the people who aren't committing: commit or do our team a favor and stay home. What I would give to go to Conseco every game and cheer on my team for free. SMH

Aw Heck
11-06-2010, 12:03 AM
Aside from needing more fans that are willing to stand and yell all game, Area 55 desperately needs a designated chant leader. At least at this stage.

No one in the section knows what to do or what chant should come next. After a possession is over, more often than not, it seems like most of the section is waiting for someone to start a chant. They don't know who to look to.

Because of all of this waiting, sometimes chants don't really get going until about 10 seconds into a team's possession. Then the possession will end and the chant will have lasted for all of about 5 seconds.

Sometimes, someone will start a chant and most of the section will join in. Sometimes no one starts one and Area 55 becomes silent for several possessions. Other times, someone starts one and only half of the section joins in.

The whole section needs one person (maybe two) to look to in order to know what to do next. One person to lead the chants so there's no indecision about who's starting the chant or what chant they're going with.

Maybe after a while, perhaps when better fans make their way into the section and when the group gets more experience together, there won't be a need for a "leader." But at this point, the group needs one.

cdash
11-06-2010, 12:06 AM
I nominate El Pacero or greenway to be the leader. Greenway isn't afraid to call people out, good for him. Regardless, it needs to get figured out.

redfoster
11-06-2010, 12:20 AM
Absolutely. I joked on Twitter tonight that ElPacer = ElBuckero but he was completely correct in his disappointment. Squad 6 came to our place and we barely showed up.

I like Aw Heck's idea of designated chant leader(s). We need more organization to do this right. Sec of Chants does a great job getting the word out, but we need someone who leads us during the game, as well.

It wouldn't hurt if we could get together at some point and have some brainstorm/practice sessions. It would be fun and help us for nights like tonight.

Thoughts?

El Pacero
11-06-2010, 12:34 AM
I already went on my twitter tirade so I'm not gonna repeat myself on here. We had a rough night, and it wasn't the first, but until some kind of changes are made I don't see it getting a lot better... even if a small core group practices a bunch. Also, Will Prim is the guy that starts at least 75% of the chants and if anyone should be the leader, it should be him. He's just as frustrated as I am.

After being completely exhausted and covered with sweat from head to toe, and realizing I barely made a difference because there were only like 20 of us cheering most of the time... I got disappointed to say the least.

cdash
11-06-2010, 12:37 AM
I already went on my twitter tirade so I'm not gonna repeat myself on here. We had a rough night, and it wasn't the first, but until some kind of changes are made I don't see it getting a lot better... even if a small core group practices a bunch. Also, Will Prim is the guy that starts at least 75% of the chants and if anyone should be the leader, it should be him. He's just as frustrated as I am.

After being completely exhausted and covered with sweat from head to toe, and realizing I barely made a difference because there were only like 20 of us cheering most of the time... I got disappointed to say the least.

Yeah, I saw you in the parking garage after the game. Looked dejected. Thought about saying hi, but some kids recognized you and started screaming "El Pacero!" at you. First time I've seen your outfit in person. Very nice. The Ulimate Warrior tassles around your legs were awesome.

Sookie
11-06-2010, 12:41 AM
I'm pretty sure the Cameron Crazies hand out cheer/chant cards (with some instructions..like.."say this when other team is shooting) so that the fans know what to chant and do.

If you guys aren't doing that already, that might help. You guys can come up with them, type them out, and pass them around..it might help with the unity a bit.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 12:45 AM
I'm pretty sure the Cameron Crazies hand out cheer/chant cards (with some instructions..like.."say this when other team is shooting) so that the fans know what to chant and do.

If you guys aren't doing that already, that might help. You guys can come up with them, type them out, and pass them around..it might help with the unity a bit.

we do that but we dont have unity

Aw Heck
11-06-2010, 12:45 AM
OK. Here's a scenario. Let me know what you think.

Will Prim gets designated the chant leader. He gets moved to the front row of the section so that everyone in the section can see him and also so that he can turn around and face the whole section.

He AND ONLY HE gets to start chants. If not him, then only one other person, who is sitting next to him. Maybe each person can take turns. One for offense, one for defense, perhaps?

This might not sit well with everyone at first. I'm sure a lot of people want to start their own chants but everyone needs to be on the same page, for the good of the section. Everyone needs to be able to look to one person to get their cues from and then start chanting.

There should be little to no thought process for them. Possession over, look/listen to the leader, get cue, start chanting.

ColeTheMole
11-06-2010, 12:46 AM
Yeah put Will as the chant leader. I am the kid who literally screams as loud as can as if in pain at random times on defense. But I agree. The chants need to be way more simple. No more of all of this creativity. Its really hurting the loudness because people have to realize what one is saying, then when they figure it out, it is already stopped.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 12:47 AM
OK. Here's a scenario. Let me know what you think.

Will Prim gets designated the chant leader. He gets moved to the front row of the section so that everyone in the section can see him and also so that he can turn around and face the whole section.

He AND ONLY HE gets to start chants. If not him, then only one other person, who is sitting next to him. Maybe each person can take turns. One for offense, one for defense, perhaps?

This might not sit well with everyone at first. I'm sure a lot of people want to start their own chants but everyone needs to be on the same page, for the good of the section. Everyone needs to be able to look to one person to get their cues from and then start chanting.

There should be little to no thought process for them. Possession over, look/listen to the leader, get cue, start chanting.

that is the promblem dont have a leader 4 different people starting different chants at the sane time every1 gets :confused:

redfoster
11-06-2010, 12:49 AM
Yeah put Will as the chant leader. I am the kid who literally screams as loud as can as if in pain at random times on defense. But I agree. The chants need to be way more simple. No more of all of this creativity. Its really hurting the loudness because people have to realize what one is saying, then when they figure it out, it is already stopped.
Nice, I sat beside you and your girlfriend tonight and screamed along with you. Good effort tonight. NOISE.

El Pacero
11-06-2010, 12:50 AM
cdash - I never look dejected or get upset even after ugly Pacers losses. Those kids helped a tiny bit, ha. I'm always looking to talk to Pacers fans, especially PD members, so say Hi next time.

Sookie: Usually we have a chant sheet for the free throws, but you're right. We need a main cheat sheet and decide on a bunch of general chants.

Wasn't going to say this, but after talking to Squad Six member... I think the bottom line is Squad Six set expectations from the beginning and has strict rules for not only attendance, but standing up and cheering the entire time. That results in everyone trying as hard as they can to stay on the squad. We don't have anything close to that.

Scot Pollard
11-06-2010, 12:53 AM
el pacero is the leader of area 55 hands down

i wanted area 55's chants to crush those milwaukee intruders

more importantly i wanted the pacers to crush the bucks but nooooooooooo it was all about playing lazy and giving up to a bunch of freakin deer

croz24
11-06-2010, 12:53 AM
yea i posted on pd at the game because it was just too pathetic to listen to. those 30 bucks fans were louder than all of conseco at times. just pathetic...

Day-V
11-06-2010, 01:05 AM
I said this exact thing in the explain area55 thread and got shot down and mocked. But most of the people commenting were non area55 fans

Don't worry about that stuff, dude. Some people have to be dicks on the internet to counter-balance their terrible social lives.

As a complete outside bystander, I think you and El Pacero, as well as a few others who I saw in Area 55, do a tremendous job. It's just a shame that the others won't match your guys' enthusiasm and dedication to the Pacers and Roy.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 01:08 AM
I said this exact thing in the explain area55 thread and got shot down and mocked. But most of the people commenting were non area55 fans

it is a good idea i just want easier cheers that i dont need to look at a sheet for. I like cheers that are simply like the one Roy suggested after the game 2night. yell when the other center has the ball. Simpler will make us louder and more of a unit.

Day-V
11-06-2010, 01:10 AM
it is a good idea i just want easier cheers that i dont need to look at a sheet for. I like cheers that are simply like the one Roy suggested after the game 2night. yell when the other center has the ball

I've seen some of the other chants, and they don't take rocket scientists to read and comprehend.......

Kuq_e_Zi91
11-06-2010, 01:14 AM
I wish I was in Indy to help you guys out.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 01:15 AM
I've seen some of the other chants, and they don't take rocket scientists to read and comprehend.......

but when 4 different chants are going at once I dont know which one to do. LOL


we just need to be on the same page have one leader who starts every chant.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 01:38 AM
I don't know if I have it in me to be a good A55 guy 41 times a year, but I wouldn't mind giving it a try once or twice just to 'try it on.' Maybe someday.

kielbeze
11-06-2010, 01:38 AM
OK. Here's a scenario. Let me know what you think.

Will Prim gets designated the chant leader. He gets moved to the front row of the section so that everyone in the section can see him and also so that he can turn around and face the whole section.

He AND ONLY HE gets to start chants. If not him, then only one other person, who is sitting next to him. Maybe each person can take turns. One for offense, one for defense, perhaps?

This might not sit well with everyone at first. I'm sure a lot of people want to start their own chants but everyone needs to be on the same page, for the good of the section. Everyone needs to be able to look to one person to get their cues from and then start chanting.


There should be little to no thought process for them. Possession over, look/listen to the leader, get cue, start chanting.

Thats been my idea all along I usually sit by will but tonight we were on opposite ends and it was kind of cool. We were yelling to eachother and getting both sides on key together. We m have been trying to take control
to get everyone on point but no matter who is in the lead or whatever we have to have fans willing to listen and play along. OR WE LOOSE!

kielbeze
11-06-2010, 01:41 AM
We need to ask some staff to make area55 "officially" non designated seating. I'm tired of having to move 3 times because one or 2 people are obsessed with having their seats so they can sit. It needs to be posted as well. Also I liked that the "real" area 55 fans were bunched together tonight. We should use 101 till it fills up and put the runover in 102
Also on that point I think it is funny when people come down and get all pissy. Excuse me your in my seat ! But then they want to sit all game. oops looks like yous should have just went to 102 lol.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 01:45 AM
Also on that point I think it is funny when people come down and get all pissy. Excuse me your in my seat ! But then they want to sit all game. oops looks like yous should have just went to 102 lol.

ya lol people really got mad lol there are only 25 emty seats in 102 lol people need to chill

cdash
11-06-2010, 01:48 AM
Me being positive: I think tonight could actually be a good experience for our young Area 55 group. Seeing a superior cheer group come into our house and hand your asses to you could motivate you guys to get on the same page with better organization and give you something to strive towards. I suspect they will be much better against Denver on Tuesday night (wtf is with all these gaps between games?).

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 05:02 AM
Hey guys, I'm an outsider here but I was at your game tonight. I'm one of the Squad 6 members that helped organize this trip. I want to stress that it ultimately wasn't our goal to come there and show you up, don't get me wrong we don't mind doing that but we just love cheering on the Bucks first and foremost, I'm sure as die hard Pacers fans you can at least understand that.

Also we have a year on you.

I keep hearing the number of 30 people thrown around, we had 41 people there today.

As for the game, it was pretty sloppy by both teams for the most part, pretty ugly game. Had a lot of fun in your arena and I wish the Bradley Center was as nice as Conseco.

I have nothing but positive things to say about Pacers fans, we drilled into our groups heads that they weren't to respond to any fans trying to antagonize us and try to start something, we did leave a little exception for Area 55 since you were sort of our "competition". I have mad respect that the ushers and other fans let us do our thing.

I'm sure we were a bit annoying or irritating or whatever you want to say it and obviously you guys aren't happy with the outcome of the game but I give you guys some props for sure. You are young and starting to find your way, it will get there.

Oh and of the group there, I think I counted 22 or 23 as actual Squad 6 members, the rest are just friends who know what we are about and followed along. You will get there and thanks for lending us your arena tonight :) Maybe we will come back in April it is pretty nice there :)

I probably rambled on a little bit here but its 4am my time back here in Milwaukee and I've been up for almost 24 hours now.

Roaming Gnome
11-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Greenway, I didn't agree with you and thought that you were wound way too tight over in the Explain area 55 thread, but Friday night totally proved your point & rested your case!!!

When we got to the arena, I thought that it was odd the number of Bucks fans there last night. Usually, the Bucks don't bring a big road crowd.

I quickly figured it out during the visitor line-ups when the cheers for the Bucks players were pretty loud and organized.

I knew we were in for a show down when I could clearly hear, "Let's Go Bucks" over the noise of our starting lineup montage and our player intros.

I knew we were in TROUBLE on the Pacers first possession when the loudest sound in the building wasn't the fans, the organ, or the drum line.... It was the chant of DE-FENSE coming from Section 20!

I hate to say it, but Area 55 is an EPIC FAIL as it stands. Anyone that sits on the far side of the Fieldhouse at the Home Opener and especially Friday night could tell that Area 55 really needs some work!

On chants, follow the K.I.S.S. Rule: Keep it simple, stupid! I know everyone wants to be creative, but whats the use if no one on the other side of the building understands what you're saying? This kind of rolls into how Squad 6 & friends crushed Area 55 last night. I heard their "41" loud and clear because their chants were SIMPLE!


"Mil-Wau-Kee" Doesn't get simpler than that!
"OOOOOOHHHhhhhhh" with the jumping up and down- again, simple!
" Buck's player at that position is Better!" to an opposing player at the line- Again, simple!
"Counting" - Yep.... Easy as 1,2,3!
"Darrrrreeeen" The old Bronx Cheer when Collison was at the line the first time was classic.
"You got traded" - To Collison at the line the second time was even better!

Not cutting edge stuff, but hey I could hear it, understand it & if I was a Bucks fan... I could join right into the chant along with others in the arena.

Honestly, I don't know if Area 55 has meetings or what but Area 55 has always seemed "rudderless" from the first time that I spoke to someone within PS&E about what happens when Area 55 members "don't come to games", "don't fit in" or "just don't get the concept" of what you want to accomplish? I was looking for the answer of "Kick 'em out" but to my amazement.... that wasn't what I heard. When I mentioned how rigid the rules were for "Squad 6" in Milwaukee, I was told that we're not looking to kick people out unless "absolutely necessarily"! From what I understand... This person that I spoke to is one of the head honchos of Area 55. "Tragic!"

I won't go as far as what Mrs. Gnome said last night, "Cut 'em all and hold new auditions!!", but unless something changes Area 55 is nothing but another good idea to sale tickets.

Sorry Roy, but Bogut is getting more bang for his :bucks: when it comes to the rowdy fan section!

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 09:45 AM
Greenway, I didn't agree with you and thought that you were wound way too tight over in the Explain area 55 thread, but Friday night totally proved your point & rested your case!!!

When we got to the arena, I thought that it was odd the number of Bucks fans there last night. Usually, the Bucks don't bring a big road crowd.

I quickly figured it out during the visitor line-ups when the cheers for the Bucks players were pretty loud and organized.

I knew we were in for a show down when I could clearly hear, "Let's Go Bucks" over the noise of our starting lineup montage and our player intros.

I knew we were in TROUBLE on the Pacers first possession when the loudest sound in the building wasn't the fans, the organ, or the drum line.... It was the chant of DE-FENSE coming from Section 20!

I hate to say it, but Area 55 is an EPIC FAIL as it stands. Anyone that sits on the far side of the Fieldhouse at the Home Opener and especially Friday night could tell that Area 55 really needs some work!

On chants, follow the K.I.S.S. Rule: Keep it simple, stupid! I know everyone wants to be creative, but whats the use if no one on the other side of the building understands what you're saying? This kind of rolls into how Squad 6 & friends crushed Area 55 last night. I heard their "41" loud and clear because their chants were SIMPLE!


"Mil-Wau-Kee" Doesn't get simpler than that!
"OOOOOOHHHhhhhhh" with the jumping up and down- again, simple!
" Buck's player at that position is Better!" to an opposing player at the line- Again, simple!
"Counting" - Yep.... Easy as 1,2,3!
"Darrrrreeeen" The old Bronx Cheer when Collison was at the line the first time was classic.
"You got traded" - To Collison at the line the second time was even better!

Not cutting edge stuff, but hey I could hear it, understand it & if I was a Bucks fan... I could join right into the chant along with others in the arena.

Honestly, I don't know if Area 55 has meetings or what but Area 55 has always seemed "rudderless" from the first time that I spoke to someone within PS&E about what happens when Area 55 members "don't come to games", "don't fit in" or "just don't get the concept" of what you want to accomplish? I was looking for the answer of "Kick 'em out" but to my amazement.... that wasn't what I heard. When I mentioned how rigid the rules were for "Squad 6" in Milwaukee, I was told that we're not looking to kick people out unless "absolutely necessarily"! From what I understand... This person that I spoke to is one of the head honchos of Area 55. "Tragic!"

I won't go as far as what Mrs. Gnome said last night, "Cut 'em all and hold new auditions!!", but unless something changes Area 55 is nothing but another good idea to sale tickets.

Sorry Roy, but Bogut is getting more bang for his :bucks: when it comes to the rowdy fan section!

So why don't you join us in A55 and make your ideas and presence felt instead of simply critiquing the A55 members here?

Roaming Gnome
11-06-2010, 10:14 AM
So why don't you join us in A55 and make your ideas and presence felt instead of simply critiquing the A55 members here?

I hope you are not thinking that I'm calling the members out, I just think Area 55 is flawed in the leadership from PS&E not being specific in what they want from the A55 members.

As for joining you, I would enjoy it a time or two, but honestly a majority of the time I want to just watch the game and get up when the team or the spirit moves me. Nothing wrong with that, but that sure as hell not fair to those like Greenway and El Pacero that are there to "Bring It"! Don't get me wrong many on this board will tell you I have no problem being loud and obnoxious. I've made my presence felt in Conseco long before Area 55 or Squad 6 was a wet dream! Doing that for 48 minutes is a commitment that I wasn't ready to fill. Kudos to you that took up the challenge and are following through! Anyway, bringing my wife and child to Area 55 is what you're trying to avoid! You only want fans there with one purpose in mind... Bring it with reckless abandon, not some guy with others in-tow that think "it's neat to be a part of the fun".

I knew I wasn't up for the commitment, but it sounds like there are some that took on the "commitment" without realizing that it was just that. "A COMMITMENT", not just free tickets to the games!!! Selling whole season's down there was just a bad idea all way around... Hard to move someone out if they're paid to be there!

RWB
11-06-2010, 10:28 AM
So why don't you join us in A55 and make your ideas and presence felt instead of simply critiquing the A55 members here?

Maybe because he prefers his season ticket location he's had forever. Plus no one, and I mean no one, can yell any louder than Gnome from that location. :D

I was setting in the lower level corner between and below the A55 section last night and there are some really dedicated members. I know there were two guys near the first row railing that were standing the entire time or least when I turned around to look. Also the guy trying to get people to stand up constantly took his job seriously.

Bottom line...it is not a total failure as you've got some good bones to work with so to speak. As others have said, from my first impression, the folks who are really dedicated to do this is spread out too much and yes keep it simple so non Area55 folks will chime in.

What really gets folks vocal is when they have an enemy to hate. Maybe you have certain rules that prevent this, but over the years it seems fans really get into the game when it seems refs are blowing their whistles one way. It is amazing how a crowd can get loud when it feels it is getting hosed. Some folks just need an excuse to let loose. Nothing finer than an entire arena chanting bulls#*t together after Knick Bavetta makes one of his anti Pacer calls.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 11:02 AM
What really gets folks vocal is when they have an enemy to hate. Maybe you have certain rules that prevent this, but over the years it seems fans really get into the game when it seems refs are blowing their whistles one way. It is amazing how a crowd can get loud when it feels it is getting hosed. Some folks just need an excuse to let loose. Nothing finer than an entire arena chanting bulls#*t together after Knick Bavetta makes one of his anti Pacer calls.

Per the Pacers Suits, we in A55 aren't supposed to say anything about bad calls or get on the refs. That's why you don't hear the BS Chant from A55.

imawhat
11-06-2010, 11:04 AM
I think you guys should bring some noisemakers or something else to spice it up for the reserved fans. Some cowbells would be nice. Party favors for opposing teams free throws would be hilarious. Another thing I like about squad 6 is the constant ahhh sound during stretches.

I Love P
11-06-2010, 11:06 AM
Maybe because he prefers his season ticket location he's had forever. Plus no one, and I mean no one, can yell any louder than Gnome from that location. :D

I was setting in the lower level corner between and below the A55 section last night and there are some really dedicated members. I know there were two guys near the first row railing that were standing the entire time or least when I turned around to look. Also the guy trying to get people to stand up constantly took his job seriously.

Bottom line...it is not a total failure as you've got some good bones to work with so to speak. As others have said, from my first impression, the folks who are really dedicated to do this is spread out too much and yes keep it simple so non Area55 folks will chime in.
What really gets folks vocal is when they have an enemy to hate. Maybe you have certain rules that prevent this, but over the years it seems fans really get into the game when it seems refs are blowing their whistles one way. It is amazing how a crowd can get loud when it feels it is getting hosed. Some folks just need an excuse to let loose. Nothing finer than an entire arena chanting bulls#*t together after Knick Bavetta makes one of his anti Pacer calls.

LOL! Other Area55 members to chime in? Conseco might have the poorest fans in all 4 major sports, I can't even hear a "defense" chant unless were down two with less than a minute left. How many people besides Area55 members even wear Pacers' gear? I mean, all I see are sweaters, polos and suits. I spotted like four or five yellow shirts in the lower bowl last night. Fans in Conseco are terrible, no wonder we don't pull out games like last night...there is NO home court advantage.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Maybe because he prefers his season ticket location he's had forever. Plus no one, and I mean no one, can yell any louder than Gnome from that location. :D

Fine and dandy. But then don't knock those of us in A55 (only 55 of whom were selected to do the yelling with the rest in there, having apparently no obligation to do anything other than watch the game) who also stand, yell, and try to fulfill our responsibilities. If you don't like the job we're doing, fine. But don't put all the responsibility for being loud in Conseco on us.

Another thought. Mostly when people could hear the Squad 6 people from Milwaukee, it was during times when our players were shooting free throws. At that time A55 was trying to be quiet. They, on the other hand, were free to make noise. That's when they were most audible. Big deal. What did you expect in that situation?

imawhat
11-06-2010, 11:08 AM
Also, I've been afraid to say it since the details were announced, but I surely can't be the only person thinking it. I think area55 is too far away from the court to reach its full potential. I think the Bucks fans were closer and that helped. Btw the shot clock chant was brilliant. We took 2-3 early shots because of it.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 11:15 AM
I hope you are not thinking that I'm calling the members out, I just think Area 55 is flawed in the leadership from PS&E not being specific in what they want from the A55 members.

As for joining you, I would enjoy it a time or two, but honestly a majority of the time I want to just watch the game and get up when the team or the spirit moves me. Nothing wrong with that, but that sure as hell not fair to those like Greenway and El Pacero that are there to "Bring It"! Don't get me wrong many on this board will tell you I have no problem being loud and obnoxious. I've made my presence felt in Conseco long before Area 55 or Squad 6 was a wet dream! Doing that for 48 minutes is a commitment that I wasn't ready to fill. Kudos to you that took up the challenge and are following through! Anyway, bringing my wife and child to Area 55 is what you're trying to avoid! You only want fans there with one purpose in mind... Bring it with reckless abandon, not some guy with others in-tow that think "it's neat to be a part of the fun".

I knew I wasn't up for the commitment, but it sounds like there are some that took on the "commitment" without realizing that it was just that. "A COMMITMENT", not just free tickets to the games!!! Selling whole season's down there was just a bad idea all way around... Hard to move someone out if they're paid to be there!

Sorry if I seemed hot. Do come and join us, and bring your enthusiasm and ideas, cowbells, party favors, fatheads, whatever. It'll help, I'm sure, and you'll get a better feel for who is in A55 and who is pulling their weight and isn't.

redfoster
11-06-2010, 11:19 AM
LOL! Other Area55 members to chime in? Conseco might have the poorest fans in all 4 major sports, I can't even hear a "defense" chant unless were down two with less than a minute left. How many people besides Area55 members even wear Pacers' gear? I mean, all I see are sweaters, polos and suits. I spotted like four or five yellow shirts in the lower bowl last night. Fans in Conseco are terrible, no wonder we don't pull out games like last night...there is NO home court advantage.
This.

It really sucks when we can't get 10 fans in the lower level to chant a single time during play, but as soon as that freaking t-shirt cannon comes out everyone goes wild. Just pathetic. If we could get even 10% of the crowd to go with us as we chant, you would see a HUGE difference.

idioteque
11-06-2010, 11:21 AM
I don't think Area 55's struggles should be all that surprising. New organizations always have trouble at the start. That being said, Roy should have divided up the tickets among anyone who took the time to try out this year, then have PSE watch and take a few notes on each person, and next year allow only the best people to come back for every game. Sort of like a fraternity pledging period for Area 55. Otherwise, you're going to get a lot of dead weight, just like you would in a fraternity if you didn't make people be pledges first.

Also, from someone who sat in a college basketball student section for four years, I advise you to stop trying to be obsessed with being so creative. We're talking about basketball chants here, no one needs to be James Joyce, just keep it simple. Have 5-10 core chants, MAYBE a couple of unique chants for each team once you get more organizational coherence, and most definitely a cheer leader.

Shame on the deadweight though. What I would do to be able to go to every Pacers game FOR FREE.

El Pacero, you've been to DC before, you know their fans are horrible. At least we'll be able to show up the whole Verizon Center this year like Squad 6 just did to the Pacers.

redfoster
11-06-2010, 11:21 AM
One more thing: who ever mentioned the drums being a nice touch is right. Are the guys that work for the Pacers the only people allowed to have those? If we could designate a drum guy that would be there all game beating that thing, it would be really helpful.

imawhat
11-06-2010, 11:22 AM
Hoya, I watched the game from 2,000 miles away and I heard squad 6 all night. They were quite loud.

And nobody's knocking you or anyone else that is trying. It's the members that just sit there reserved that are getting our criticism. If I were you I'd be just as pissed that some members aren't pulling their weight.

Trophy
11-06-2010, 11:22 AM
Try and make it a more college atmosphere like the Bucks fans do.

I think it suits our team because we have a lot of young guys and it'll get the whole team pumped up.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 11:24 AM
Hoya, I watched the game from 2,000 miles away and I heard squad 6 all night. They were quite loud.

And nobody's knocking you or anyone else that is trying. It's the members that just sit there reserved that are getting our criticism. If I were you I'd be just as pissed that some members aren't pulling their weight.

I watched the replay myself after I got home. Mostly what you heard from Squad 6 was during our players' free throws. As I said, big deal. It's kind of easy to be heard when everyone else in the Arena is being quiet.

As I see it, they brought 41 people. We have 55. And everybody else in Conseco just sits on their butts and thinks A55 has the entire responsibility for generating crowd noise. And the "Roy's sure not getting his money's worth" from us and other critiques like that really rankle me. If Conseco were anything other than blue haired Carmel ladies and tassel-loafered high rollers, maybe 41 interlopers from another town wouldn't have been heard at all. If Squad 6 "outperformed" us, well, it sure wasn't because A55 wasn't trying. Part of the problem lies in the other 18,445 ticket holders in Conseco sitting on their asses and doing zero to back what has the makings of a pretty good NBA team.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 11:41 AM
Hoya, I watched the game from 2,000 miles away and I heard squad 6 all night. They were quite loud.

And nobody's knocking you or anyone else that is trying. It's the members that just sit there reserved that are getting our criticism. If I were you I'd be just as pissed that some members aren't pulling their weight.

Well, my contention is that the A55 members ARE pulling their weight. And we have lots of simple cheers. We were doing DEFENSE all night. What could be simpler than that? And we got ZERO reaction from Conseco.

Most of our cheers are ridiculously simple. The fact is that nobody else in Conseco wants to cheer. I don't buy the: "Your cheers are too hard to follow". That's baloney. What's simpler than "Defense" or "Let's go Pacers, let's go. Clap clap clap. A moron could follow Puh-Puh-Pacers.

BillS
11-06-2010, 11:56 AM
I take rather exception to that, as the sections around the drum corps were pretty loud all night.

I buy my tickets so I can watch the game, not stand and scream randomly. I yell DE-FENSE and yell specific things rather than chants (my wife often tries to get me to shut up, in fact).

I could hear the Squad 6 folks yell DE-FENSE, I could not hear A55. Now, I'm the other side of the center scoreboard, but there should still be something coming through.

The free tickets in A55 were given to people for the purpose of making noise all night. I bought my tickets. Don't be calling me out, here.

croz24
11-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Well, my contention is that the A55 members ARE pulling their weight. And we have lots of simple cheers. We were doing DEFENSE all night. What could be simpler than that? And we got ZERO reaction from Conseco.

Most of our cheers are ridiculously simple. The fact is that nobody else in Conseco wants to cheer. I don't buy the: "Your cheers are too hard to follow". That's baloney. What's simpler than "Defense" or "Let's go Pacers, let's go. Clap clap clap. A moron could follow Puh-Puh-Pacers.

were you at the game? if so, you would acknowledge that area 55 was a joke last night and the squad 6 members were far louder throughout the night.

and if you are actually apart of area 55, it's impossible for you to gauge how loud or quiet you guys actually are by being in that section. the bucks fans were far louder and just about every pd member who was at the game last night has commented on how bad area 55 was.

grace
11-06-2010, 12:16 PM
When Conseco first opened up pretty much everyone cheered. Not sure which year it was but cheering came to a screaching hault during a playoff series against Detroit. I distinctly remember Kegboy standing up trying to get the rest of our section to do so. I couldn't believe people weren't getting into a playoff game!

I don't really have a problem with people not cheering during play as long as you're at least paying attention to the game. The woman sitting at a table in Legand's with her back to the court the entire game...now that I have a problem with.

tikitomoka
11-06-2010, 12:17 PM
i feel like there's no unity in area 55, and that creates the problem. if there were chants already designated at the first meeting thing you guys had, then someone should have made a video demonstrating them and showing how to do them (or i could be wrong, and that was done). this may just be coming from someone who's used to a crazy high school football crowd every week, but what would be so bad about talking to roy to say to the people that are just sitting and watching the game that they need to either 1) get loud like the rest of the group or 2) lose your tix?

grace
11-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Most of our cheers are ridiculously simple. The fact is that nobody else in Conseco wants to cheer. I don't buy the: "Your cheers are too hard to follow". That's baloney. What's simpler than "Defense" or "Let's go Pacers, let's go. Clap clap clap. A moron could follow Puh-Puh-Pacers.

I was at the game in the first row of section 223 and NEVER heard any cheers from Area 55 so I don't know if they're reciculously simple or not.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 12:48 PM
were you at the game? if so, you would acknowledge that area 55 was a joke last night and the squad 6 members were far louder throughout the night.

and if you are actually apart of area 55, it's impossible for you to gauge how loud or quiet you guys actually are by being in that section. the bucks fans were far louder and just about every pd member who was at the game last night has commented on how bad area 55 was.

Yes, I was. I was there. Were you at the game? Buckner and Chris Denari commented about our presence in the TV replay. They thought we were loud. And we were pretty loud as far as I could tell. Yeah, it is hard to gauge how loud we are when you're in A55 screaming your lungs out. But it sounded to me like we were as loud as 55 people could be.

And I didn't hear much from anyone else at Conseco. Were you there screaming your lungs out? I didn't hear you. So, don't criticize us. You have no right to.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 12:53 PM
I was at the game in the first row of section 223 and NEVER heard any cheers from Area 55 so I don't know if they're reciculously simple or not.

Well, you seem to be a Bucks fan. So maybe you weren't listening. We were plenty loud. Some people only hear what they want to hear.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 12:58 PM
I take rather exception to that, as the sections around the drum corps were pretty loud all night.

I buy my tickets so I can watch the game, not stand and scream randomly. I yell DE-FENSE and yell specific things rather than chants (my wife often tries to get me to shut up, in fact).

I could hear the Squad 6 folks yell DE-FENSE, I could not hear A55. Now, I'm the other side of the center scoreboard, but there should still be something coming through.

The free tickets in A55 were given to people for the purpose of making noise all night. I bought my tickets. Don't be calling me out, here.

Well, you guys are calling us out, aren't you? If you buy tickets and want to watch the game, fine. That's OK with me. Just don't dump on me for not being loud when I (and the 55 others that got free tickets) were chanting, cheering, and standing THE ENTIRE GAME.

tikitomoka
11-06-2010, 01:06 PM
Yes, I was. I was there. Were you at the game? Buckner and Chris Denari commented about our presence in the TV replay. They thought we were loud. And we were pretty loud as far as I could tell. Yeah, it is hard to gauge how loud we are when you're in A55 screaming your lungs out. But it sounded to me like we were as loud as 55 people could be.

And I didn't hear much from anyone else at Conseco. Were you there screaming your lungs out? I didn't hear you. So, don't criticize us. You have no right to.
instead of criticizing the rest of conseco because your group is getting constructive critisicm maybe you should try and get the rest of the section to get loud. i wasn't at the game last night, but i was at the home opener and couldn't even hear you guys from the other side of the stadium (my suite was directly across from area 55).

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 01:09 PM
instead of criticizing the rest of conseco because your group is getting constructive critisicm maybe you should try and get the rest of the section to get loud. i wasn't at the game last night, but i was at the home opener and couldn't even hear you guys from the other side of the stadium (my suite was directly across from area 55).

Hard to get a stadium excited when there is nothing to get excited about. How about this chant " Drive the Ball........Drive the Ball.......Don't shoot the three and just Drive the Ball!!!!!!!!"

croz24
11-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Yes, I was. I was there. Were you at the game? Buckner and Chris Denari commented about our presence in the TV replay. They thought we were loud. And we were pretty loud as far as I could tell. Yeah, it is hard to gauge how loud we are when you're in A55 screaming your lungs out. But it sounded to me like we were as loud as 55 people could be.

And I didn't hear much from anyone else at Conseco. Were you there screaming your lungs out? I didn't hear you. So, don't criticize us. You have no right to.

yes, and as was stated area 55 was not loud at all. grace even just stated as much. read the threads and you'll find more people who agree. you may think you guys are loud, but i wasn't too far from the area 55 section and could hardly distinguish anything that you guys were doing. whereas the squad 6 i could.

also, being apart of area 55 is like a job. it is your job to be on your feet during the games chanting and screaming. you get free tickets to do so. i paid for my tickets as did most of the people in coseco. therefore, we can pretty much do as we damn well please.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Hard to get a stadium excited when there is nothing to get excited about. How about this chant " Drive the Ball........Drive the Ball.......Don't shoot the three and just Drive the Ball!!!!!!!!"

ya i hate are offense

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 01:15 PM
ya i hate are offense

Seriously if I played my video games like the Pacers played in real life I would get my *** handed to me every game. Maybe JOB should join our NBA2K league and you guys could give him some pointers.

pacer4ever
11-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Seriously if I played my video games like the Pacers played in real life I would get my *** handed to me every game. Maybe JOB should join our NBA2K league and you guys could give him some pointers.

i run my offense in 2k with hibbert normaly and drive with PG24 and danny. also the 1 double with DC i love very good play.

jhondog28
11-06-2010, 01:22 PM
i run my offense in 2k with hibbert normaly and drive with PG24 and danny. also the 1 double with DC i love very good play.

I am guessing MDJ does not even see the floor huh? Hahahaha

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 01:24 PM
therefore, we can pretty much do as we damn well please.

Okay, do as you please. Sit on your hands and watch the game.

I'll do as I please and call you on it. And if you like Squad 6 so much, go join it. I refuse to be criticized for not being loud by people that "just do as they damn well please" and just sit and watch the game.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 01:27 PM
instead of criticizing the rest of conseco because your group is getting constructive critisicm maybe you should try and get the rest of the section to get loud. i wasn't at the game last night, but i was at the home opener and couldn't even hear you guys from the other side of the stadium (my suite was directly across from area 55).

If you weren't there, then how can you criticize anyone? You weren't there.

tikitomoka
11-06-2010, 01:30 PM
If you weren't there, then how can you criticize anyone? You weren't there.
its pretty obvious from this thread that A55 was subpar at best, and needs to improve. that's all i'm trying to say, but you're getting defensive towards everyone and attacking basically everyone not sitting in area 55.

El Pacero
11-06-2010, 01:35 PM
One more thing: who ever mentioned the drums being a nice touch is right. Are the guys that work for the Pacers the only people allowed to have those? If we could designate a drum guy that would be there all game beating that thing, it would be really helpful.

I got my gold sparkle snare drum and sling all ready for the first pregame, and lobbied the Pacers to let me use it, but they wouldn't let it in. The Bucks got permission from NBA to use a snare drum and a Squad Six member uses it to start off chants. Right now we have to try and get everyone's attention and count to three just to say something simple like "Boom Baby" - it barely works. A three-count from a drum would make it a lot easier.

But the Pacers employee who came down with the Boomer drum and instructed us in the "P-A-C-E-R-S PACERS!" 2nd quarter chant was awesome and we need more of that.

And IndyHoya, I wouldn't take this too personal with the criticism of Area 55. We are rooks and half of our team doesn't want to play. Trust me bro, as a Pacers fan I took our fan section loss very personal last night.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 01:46 PM
its pretty obvious from this thread that A55 was subpar at best, and needs to improve. that's all i'm trying to say, but you're getting defensive towards everyone and attacking basically everyone not sitting in area 55.

I'll try to restrain my rage :)

But, yeah, I am defensive. It seems to me that everyone NOT in Area 55 gets off on attacking us. I've heard it all. Our cheers are too complex; we don't stand up at half time; Roy isn't getting his money's worth; you make too much noise when our players shoot free throws; you don't jeer enough at BS calls, Squad 6 "outperformed" you, you aren't compact enough, I sat on the other side of the arena and I couldn't hear you, Squad 6 was more innovative, you aren't innovative enough, you're too innovative - no one understands you, I was there, I couldn't hear you, I just watch the game but you should be louder because that's your job, you need cowbells, you need drums, you need party favors, your fatheads get in my way, I can't see, you're disorganized...

Well, I'm tired of it.

Roy Hibbert thanked us all last night. He said he heard us. He gave us a suggestion for something he'd like to hear from us to rankle an opposing center. We'll do it. Roy bought my ticket. If he's OK with me, I'm happy. I don't see having any obligation to anyone else but him. I certainly don't have to sit around and listen to criticism that isn't constructive and just runs us down.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 02:09 PM
ya lol people really got mad lol there are only 25 emty seats in 102 lol people need to chill

If I pay money for section X, row Y, seat Z, I expect to be able to sit there at any time I wish.

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 02:15 PM
I got my gold sparkle snare drum and sling all ready for the first pregame, and lobbied the Pacers to let me use it, but they wouldn't let it in. The Bucks got permission from NBA to use a snare drum and a Squad Six member uses it to start off chants. Right now we have to try and get everyone's attention and count to three just to say something simple like "Boom Baby" - it barely works. A three-count from a drum would make it a lot easier.

But the Pacers employee who came down with the Boomer drum and instructed us in the "P-A-C-E-R-S PACERS!" 2nd quarter chant was awesome and we need more of that.

And IndyHoya, I wouldn't take this too personal with the criticism of Area 55. We are rooks and half of our team doesn't want to play. Trust me bro, as a Pacers fan I took our fan section loss very personal last night.

We don't have a snare drum, we had one last year but we do not this year. Last year they also let us use Vuvuzelas but those were banned by the NBA this year, at the league meetings they specifically showed video of Squad 6 from last year when they announced some of the new rules. We are sad about it but we have adapted last night we had no noisemakers or anything was all voices and clapping.

We want to get our snare drum back because it definitely does help lead chants but for now we don't have one and don't know if we will get one back, we have adapted so far but it definitely helped us last season.

dgranger17
11-06-2010, 02:16 PM
I have a tamberine...haha. But yes we need a drumer. Also I would like to get everyone a cheerphone or miniphone. Whatever you want to call them. We need a meeting just for chants and so on. Just one, im not asking for every week or game but at least one mandatory meeting.

I'm down for a live brainstorming session. 79-3

croz24
11-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Okay, do as you please. Sit on your hands and watch the game.

I'll do as I please and call you on it. And if you like Squad 6 so much, go join it. I refuse to be criticized for not being loud by people that "just do as they damn well please" and just sit and watch the game.

who said i was sitting on my hands all game? people who paid for their tickets should be able to act however they want to at games within reason. if someone paid good money for seats, why would you call them out for sitting in their seats if that's how they enjoy games? how many games have you paid for out of your own pocket? you won free seats on one condition, to cheer and improve the atmosphere at pacers games. from pacersdigest perspective, you aren't doing a very good job.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 02:20 PM
who said i was sitting on my hands all game? people who paid for their tickets should be able to act however they want to at games within reason. if someone paid good money for seats, why would you call them out for sitting in their seats if that's how they enjoy games? how many games have you paid for out of your own pocket? you won free seats on one condition, to cheer and improve the atmosphere at pacers games. from pacersdigest perspective, you aren't doing a very good job.

You have your perspective, and I have mine. From my perspective, you didn't give me my tickets. Roy did. When Roy tells me he's unhappy, I'll listen. When I hear you're unhappy, why should I care? I'm not your performing seal.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 02:22 PM
Well, you guys are calling us out, aren't you? If you buy tickets and want to watch the game, fine. That's OK with me. Just don't dump on me for not being loud when I (and the 55 others that got free tickets) were chanting, cheering, and standing THE ENTIRE GAME.

They're not dumping on you, they're dumping on your quiet co-members.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 02:24 PM
I got my gold sparkle snare drum and sling all ready for the first pregame, and lobbied the Pacers to let me use it, but they wouldn't let it in. The Bucks got permission from NBA to use a snare drum and a Squad Six member uses it to start off chants.

That's unacceptable. If the snare drum is allowed in Milwaukee, it damn well better be allowed in Indianapolis!

Hicks
11-06-2010, 02:25 PM
We don't have a snare drum, we had one last year but we do not this year. Last year they also let us use Vuvuzelas but those were banned by the NBA this year, at the league meetings they specifically showed video of Squad 6 from last year when they announced some of the new rules. We are sad about it but we have adapted last night we had no noisemakers or anything was all voices and clapping.

We want to get our snare drum back because it definitely does help lead chants but for now we don't have one and don't know if we will get one back, we have adapted so far but it definitely helped us last season.

Ah, damn. Well, as least that explains it.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 02:32 PM
They're not dumping on you, they're dumping on your quiet co-members.

I'll try to tone it down. I'm about spent anyway. But honestly, the basic 55 that Roy selected really ARE loud and doing what they're supposed to be doing. For some reason, other people are being admitted -- buying reduced rate tix, I suppose -- that aren't so noisy. That's not our fault. I don't get wanting to sit in Area 55 and not cheering, but that's what's happening.

croz24
11-06-2010, 02:42 PM
I'll try to tone it down. I'm about spent anyway. But honestly, the basic 55 that Roy selected really ARE loud and doing what they're supposed to be doing. For some reason, other people are being admitted -- buying reduced rate tix, I suppose -- that aren't so noisy. That's not our fault. I don't get wanting to sit in Area 55 and not cheering, but that's what's happening.

when i say "you", i'm talking about those sections. because of members of squad 6 being in conseco last night, the cheering or lack thereof from area 55 was magnified. squad 6 was standing and cheering non stop all night long and their chants could be clearly heard all game. area 55 not so much. far too many people from those sections were sitting or standing up and not doing anything.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 02:57 PM
when i say "you", i'm talking about those sections. because of members of squad 6 being in conseco last night, the cheering or lack thereof from area 55 was magnified. squad 6 was standing and cheering non stop all night long and their chants could be clearly heard all game. area 55 not so much. far too many people from those sections were sitting or standing up and not doing anything.

Look, I'm sorry about maybe not being civil. If we weren't loud, or perceived as being loud, I guess we should be told that that's the case. When you are in Area 55 you can't hear much from outside it and you sort of lack a frame of reference.

I couldn't hear much of anything from Squad 6. I heard a sort of dim "Fear the Deer" cheer..once...to which we responded: "Road-Kill". They didn't like it and were waving their arms at us. Aside from that, the only time I heard them was when our guys were shooting free throws. And of course then their audibility is understandable.

But if Squad 6 was as loud and audible as everyone here says they were, I think that says more about the general enthusiasm of the fan base in Conseco and the pervasive silence that typically rules there than the lack of noise or effort from the 55 people in Area 55, who now, it seems, have been tasked with the mission of somehow singlehandedly energizing all of the lethargic zombies that normally populate our Arena.

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 03:13 PM
Look, I'm sorry about maybe not being civil. If we weren't loud, or perceived as being loud, I guess we should be told that that's the case. When you are in Area 55 you can't hear much from outside it and you sort of lack a frame of reference.

I couldn't hear much of anything from Squad 6. I heard a sort of dim "Fear the Deer" cheer...to which we responded: "Road-Kill". They didn't like it and were waving their arms at us. Aside from that, the only time I heard them was when our guys were shooting free throws. And of course then their audibility is understandable.

But if Squad 6 was as loud and audible as everyone here says they were, I think that says more about the general enthusiasm of the fan base in Conseco and the pervasive silence that typically rules there than the lack of noise or effort from the 55 people in Area 55, who now, it seems, have now been tasked with the mission of somehow singlehandedly energizing all of the lethargic zombies that normally populate our Arena.

Actually we were waving our arms at you because we couldn't understand what you are saying. I didn't know that chant until I saw a video posted on the Area 55 website that I came across this morning.

As for not hearing anything out of your section that is very accurate. Even within Squad 6 we never have an idea of how loud we are. I have people who tweet me during games that I check during time outs and quarter breaks to see how we are doing, sometimes we can tell we are weaker than others, we have a Bucks employee who at times will check at different parts of the arena. We are in a similar location to you at our home games and the weakest part of where our sound is would be on the opposite corner but when we are on our game you can hear us just fine there.

We do have one benefit in that our arena is flatter and more spread out(makes for worse seating and sight lines, our arena was unfortunately built for hockey and not basketball) so we are closer to the court and lower so the scoreboard doesn't block us at all.

BTW I love your arena compared to ours, makes me realize even more how badly we need a new arena, ours was built for hockey and is severely outdated. Your fans and ushers were also very classy and I cannot stress enough how fun the trip was for us. I know you guys are obviously a little frustrated that we came and did that in your house and the result of the game but we mean it all in good fun, hopefully we can have a friendly rivalry because your fans showed a lot of class out there last night.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Actually we were waving our arms at you because we couldn't understand what you are saying. I didn't know that chant until I saw a video posted on the Area 55 website that I came across this morning.

BTW I love your arena compared to ours, makes me realize even more how badly we need a new arena, ours was built for hockey and is severely outdated. Your fans and ushers were also very classy and I cannot stress enough how fun the trip was for us. I know you guys are obviously a little frustrated that we came and did that in your house and the result of the game but we mean it all in good fun, hopefully we can have a friendly rivalry because your fans showed a lot of class out there last night.

The Bradley Center is a lot flatter than Conseco. I saw a couple of GU-Marquette games there. I was courtside and had good seats, but I can guess that the flatness of the place would make for poor viewing if you are seated further to the rear.

Your beer halls and German restaurants within walking distance are nice tho. Fetching frauleins showing lots of cleavage and absolutely wonderful beer. We've got you on the Arena, but your beer is out of this world good.

And don't worry. We're already plotting our revenge. Please do return and see us again. We'll be ready.

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 03:46 PM
I'm not sure if another road trip to Indianapolis will be in the works this year or not, we only play you one more time this year and its not until April so it could be considered. It was quite a bit of stress and work to plan this trip but worth every single minute of it in the end.

We do have some good pre game options near the arena, we ended up going to Coaches for our pre game food/drinking down at your place, no idea what the best places in your area are but I thought Coaches was decent and they treated us well(we had called ahead and prepared them for our big group).

We actually ran into our waitress in the arena after the game which was kind of cool too.

Anyways I hope we can make it back down there either this year or next, maybe you guys can even make it up to Milwaukee sometime.

Also I know there was some confusion as to who paid for this trip, we all paid out of our pockets for ticket and chartering a bus down there. It was actually a surprise to the Bucks players that we were there, a few Bucks employees knew we were coming but we kept the thing organized in privacy and it was all our doing. I'm sure those of you in Area 55 feel grateful for what Hibbert has done in buying tickets much like we do for Bogut, this was a way of us showing our thanks to him.

So anyways, no promises about coming back this season but would love to make another trip down there if the logistics can be worked out. It was a lot of planning and stress to help organize this and for now I'm happy it went well and going to take a little time off before thinking about organizing our second road trip.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Then I would suggest you not buy tickets in Area55. I had a 2 guys and 1 older woman at 2 seperate times try and sit in my row that was full. i told them no sorry its general seating tonight. If they had a problem with it to take it up with 1 of the 3 guys in suits.

And if I were them, and those were my seats, that's exactly what I would do.

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 04:54 PM
So it seems that regular fans can buy tickets in the area 55 section for your games?

I'm not sure of the details, Squad 6 has our own section and fans can buy seats in front of us or to the side but not in our section. I could see how that could bring problems.

We also don't do assigned seating within our section, its pretty much first come first serve but as the season goes on people get sort of used to where they are sitting and some people are sitting in certain locations because they lead chants or help keep things moving.

So we don't have assigned seating but most people are in the same seats for most games but that is based on first come first serve, being loud or looking creative, leading a particular chant or whatever the case may be.

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 05:16 PM
So it seems that regular fans can buy tickets in the area 55 section for your games?

They can and they do. Some are just fine. They bought tickets because they wanted to be there and want to cheer. But they don't have the personal indebtedness or commitment to RH like those of us that got freebies. They paid for their tix so if they don't feel like cheering sometimes then that's their right.

But there are a lot of people that seem to be showing up in 101 that don't want to do anything but sit there. They're different faces every game. I don't know how they get their tix -- like I said, they just seem to buy them and get seated with us. These are the ones people look at below and see sitting down and not "bringing it". Like I said, I can't figure out why they want to sit in A55 and not be a part of it, but that's the case. As Hicks said, they bought their ticket, I guess, so they can do what they want.

So a lot of the "lack of compactness" and "not bringing it" that people see and criticize has nothing to do with the rest of us.

Hicks
11-06-2010, 05:26 PM
It seems to me that PS&E should have only sold A-55 tickets in section 102, and left 101 to the folks who prefer general seating and are most likely to get up and cheer a lot (aka the people who auditioned for free tix).

IndyHoya
11-06-2010, 05:34 PM
It seems to me that PS&E should have only sold A-55 tickets in section 102, and left 101 to the folks who prefer general seating and are most likely to get up and cheer a lot (aka the people who auditioned for free tix).

Agreed. Management needs to sort it out. It's a problem.

chuckleslove
11-06-2010, 05:47 PM
I'm an outsider and not going to tell them how they should do it but I know from my perspective I'm glad that Squad 6 has our own section. I love other fans, I love fans that join in with our cheers, our ultimate goal is to get the entire arena joining in with us and on occasion we have and do, those are my best memories of last season.

That being said I wouldn't be happy with them in our section, as you guys saw last night we stand the entire game, we are loud the entire game and thats not always enjoyable for other fans, we understand that and all the more reason that your average fan shouldn't be in the middle of this sort of thing. Also being able to have general seating is beneficial.

Hopefully you guys can get the kinks worked out and go from there. As another team in a mid sized market I do wish you guys the best, other than the 4 games a year when you play the Bucks :P

Plus I loved that Collison trade for you guys and I love the way Hibbert is improving this year. You guys have a nice young core(I love George too), Granger is really the only player on your team that I don't like, well and TJ Ford. Maybe some others but I can't think of them right now. I like the young core.

vapacersfan
11-06-2010, 06:26 PM
Wow.

This seemed like a great idea in theory.

Sadly, whoever organized this even dropped the ball, big time.

As far as cheering, maybe you guys should contact PS&E and see if you can get suggestions from them. That or try to meet up one weekend and see if you guys cant work something out.

I loved this idea when I read it, but this should not EVER turn into a question of fandom.

That said this is a first year program. Give it time, and if you need some assistance have a drink or two before the game ;) just kidding...kind of

GO PACERS!

Brad8888
11-06-2010, 07:15 PM
Completely off topic, but, welcome to Pacers Digest chuckleslove.

You definitely have posted in a respectful and insightful way. I hope you stop back by the board on occasion in the future. We've got a few other good posters who post here who are not necessarily Pacers fans, and you appear to be very levelheaded and friendly, so it would be nice to see you back here sometimes in my opinion.

Good luck to your Bucks, except obviously when they play the Pacers.

JonnyB83
11-06-2010, 07:33 PM
I'm an outsider and not going to tell them how they should do it but I know from my perspective I'm glad that Squad 6 has our own section. I love other fans, I love fans that join in with our cheers, our ultimate goal is to get the entire arena joining in with us and on occasion we have and do, those are my best memories of last season.

That being said I wouldn't be happy with them in our section, as you guys saw last night we stand the entire game, we are loud the entire game and thats not always enjoyable for other fans, we understand that and all the more reason that your average fan shouldn't be in the middle of this sort of thing. Also being able to have general seating is beneficial.

Hopefully you guys can get the kinks worked out and go from there. As another team in a mid sized market I do wish you guys the best, other than the 4 games a year when you play the Bucks :P

Plus I loved that Collison trade for you guys and I love the way Hibbert is improving this year. You guys have a nice young core(I love George too), Granger is really the only player on your team that I don't like, well and TJ Ford. Maybe some others but I can't think of them right now. I like the young core.

I'll say this you and your squad 6 peeps sure made the game fun. It sucked the Pacers lost but it was fun to feel like I was competing against someone. I'm not in Area 55 but I worked my way close so I could stand and yell the entire game. It made our 5th game of the year feel like a playoff game. I've missed that feeling

Hicks
11-06-2010, 08:03 PM
And some did and they were told exactly what I said. General seating for last nights game. So what's your point

My point was based on the idea that general seating was an unofficial rule made up by you guys, not PS&E.

If the Pacers themselves have declared it open/general seating, then there's nothing left to say.

El Pacero
11-06-2010, 09:32 PM
I don't think there was an official General Admission section in Area 55 last night. A Pacers employee may have told that to Greenway, but no one else I know said anything about it. We had hardcore members in the front losing our "GA seats" to lame people that should be in the back (and I don't really care if they paid $13 a ticket or got free tix from PS&E w/o auditioning, they're hurting Area 55.)

I've requested official general admission for 101.

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 12:02 AM
Completely off topic, but, welcome to Pacers Digest chuckleslove.

You definitely have posted in a respectful and insightful way. I hope you stop back by the board on occasion in the future. We've got a few other good posters who post here who are not necessarily Pacers fans, and you appear to be very levelheaded and friendly, so it would be nice to see you back here sometimes in my opinion.

Good luck to your Bucks, except obviously when they play the Pacers.


I'll definitely check in around the times when the Bucks and Pacers are playing and probably if anything big happens with your team.

I'd like to think I'm level headed most of the time, I get homer goggles at time like any good fan ;)

If you guys ever want to stop by our "official" forum you can find all the best bucks fans over at http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=21

Your fans have been very great about what we did, no one has trashed us at all and I have mad respect for that, the trip was really fun and I've even heard plenty of Pacers fans saying we added to the fun so glad everyone came away thinking it was a good experience. As one of the planners of this event I have to admit I was worried that it could have blown up in our face with fights or people drinking too much or whatever causing problems. Glad that not only did we have fun but for the most part Pacers fans enjoyed the friendly competition from what I can tell.

Scot Pollard
11-07-2010, 12:40 AM
my girlfriend i enjoyed the chants from the game but we're not sure if we will be going to the game tuesday because the pacers are letting all of us down

we probably will though

kielbeze
11-07-2010, 01:08 AM
Also something i thought about. Someone posted a squad 6 video here. if you notice the music on the Pa there is built around them not over them. Just thought I would point that out. They broke out in the seven nation army melody and magically the arena joins in and the Pa plays seven nation army right on time. We get to Chant over the cha cha slide and guns and roses all night.

pacer4ever
11-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Also something i thought about. Someone posted a squad 6 video here. if you notice the music on the Pa there is built around them not over them. Just thought I would point that out. They broke out in the seven nation army melody and magically the arena joins in and the Pa plays seven nation army right on time. We get to Chant over the cha cha slide and guns and roses all night.

that is one of the major problem s

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 01:50 AM
Bucks game was the first game we've had the drumline and they totally drown us out from what I'm hearing. They also played the Eye of the Tiger / Roy Roy Roy song, but I guess we didn't hear it to sing along?

I think one of our biggest hurdles is that half the time we start a chant, music or sound effects come piping in a few seconds later and seem to kill the chant. We can't chant over that like kielbeze is saying. There needs to be some communication with the "organ guy".

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 01:51 AM
Also something i thought about. Someone posted a squad 6 video here. if you notice the music on the Pa there is built around them not over them. Just thought I would point that out. They broke out in the seven nation army melody and magically the arena joins in and the Pa plays seven nation army right on time. We get to Chant over the cha cha slide and guns and roses all night.

That is played going into the 4th quarter, it was started to be similar but unique from the Wisconsin Badgers tradition of playing "Jump Around" going into the 4th quarter.

Our sound system probably played significantly less sound stuff than most/all NBA arenas. We lead most of the chants for the crowd to get into at this point. If the PA announcer starts doing something like a defense chant or Go Bucks Go or whatever we follow along with that.

They only play music stuff during time outs. I did notice you guys had more music/sounds during the game and even some defense crowd noise piped in over the sound system. Just another one of those things you have to figure out.

A couple of times last season we had someone filling in for the normal sound guy and they were always playing sounds over us and it was awful to us so something you have to just get better at over time, hopefully the Pacers are committed to helping you make this as best as possible.

I know we have someone from our gameday operations that works very closely with us to come up with new and fun ideas. Today we started during player announcements Squad 6 and the entire crowd said the players last name, not sure how it sounded outside of Squad 6 but I think it worked well. So it was along the lines of:

PA announcer: "Starting at center, from Utah, 7 foot center Aaaaaaandddrewwwwwwwwwwwww"
Squad 6/Crowd: "Booooooooguuuuuuuttttttttt"

Was our first time trying it but I think it worked great and got the crowd involved. I hope you guys have someone inside the Pacers willing to look at these things and help make your group as successful as possible. Lots of fun things you can do if the support is right.

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 01:53 AM
As soon as I walked into the area55 section stutz pulled me to the side and said be sure to sit anywhere in 101 to fill it up.

I'm not doubting you bro, but the people he didn't tell that to obviously tried to sit in their usual seats and kick out people who were chanting. Pretty sure it's going to be official GA, everyone will know and we can get all loud people together to unite as one.

cdash
11-07-2010, 01:58 AM
That is played going into the 4th quarter, it was started to be similar but unique from the Wisconsin Badgers tradition of playing "Jump Around" going into the 4th quarter.

Our sound system probably played significantly less sound stuff than most/all NBA arenas. We lead most of the chants for the crowd to get into at this point. If the PA announcer starts doing something like a defense chant or Go Bucks Go or whatever we follow along with that.

They only play music stuff during time outs. I did notice you guys had more music/sounds during the game and even some defense crowd noise piped in over the sound system. Just another one of those things you have to figure out.

A couple of times last season we had someone filling in for the normal sound guy and they were always playing sounds over us and it was awful to us so something you have to just get better at over time, hopefully the Pacers are committed to helping you make this as best as possible.

I know we have someone from our gameday operations that works very closely with us to come up with new and fun ideas. Today we started during player announcements Squad 6 and the entire crowd said the players last name, not sure how it sounded outside of Squad 6 but I think it worked well. So it was along the lines of:

PA announcer: "Starting at center, from Utah, 7 foot center Aaaaaaandddrewwwwwwwwwwwww"
Squad 6/Crowd: "Booooooooguuuuuuuttttttttt"

Was our first time trying it but I think it worked great and got the crowd involved. I hope you guys have someone inside the Pacers willing to look at these things and help make your group as successful as possible. Lots of fun things you can do if the support is right.

This guy is full of great information. Thanks for coming here and sharing with us. I'm not in Area 55, but I appreciate your insight and advice. I want to see Area 55 succeed.

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 02:07 AM
Hola chuckleslove, we need to have some cervezas sometime. By the way, tell the big guy I saw with the wrestling belt that rolling around with sweaty guys isn't exactly my idea of fun.

While you're at it, what are you guys NOT allowed to do? Can you chant at refs about a bad call? Can you say the word "sucks"? Stuff like that...

(Really appreciate your nice posts you evil Bucks fan you.)

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 09:18 AM
Oh yeah we get on the refs, call them D-League refs, YMCA refs, tell them to quit their day job.

One of our standard chants is "That's not a good call, I don't like that call, That's not a good call, I don't like that call, Don't do it again" Its a play on the LaDainian Tomlinson shuffle which you could find on youtube, its a pretty cheesy video.

We also chant "Let them play" when they start calling ticky tacky fouls since our team does play an aggressive defensive oriented style of basketball letting them play a little benefits us more than a finesse team.

Last week when Stephen Jackson traveled into a blocking foul we chanted travel over and over while he was shooting free throws.

So yeah we get on the refs. We had a pre season game this year up in Green Bay(2 hour drive from Milwaukee) and 5 of us made the trip up there in my car, Dick Bavetta literally turned and yelled at us in the stands to settle down because we were giving him so much crap, he gave us the look of death and I thought he was going to toss us out.

We use the word sucks, not regularly as part of a chant but sometimes during a timeout they play that one common sports song, I don't know the name off the top of my head but it plays the melody you would know and then we all do "Hey, YOU SUCK!" as we point at the visiting bench. Or we yell at the refs individually that they suck.

We aren't allowed to use profanity for obvious reasons, though people in the group have been known to drop profanity under their breath due to bad play, I'm sure you guys know how that goes.

We aren't allowed to bring a players family into our chants or diseases and such, those should be pretty common sense lines to cross. We did chant "John the Gardener" for Tony Parker, apparently thats who his wife is involved with or having an affair with on Desperate Housewives or was last year, I don't watch the show so I don't know but that isn't the same as going after the family but is also still creative. Our philosophy is even if something seems silly or whatever if it makes the player think a little and takes them off their game even a little it was worth it.

So far this year we have had a player look at us and acknowledge our chants in one way or another in all 4 regular season games(3 home games + Hibbert looked up and pointed at us in Indy) and 1 pre season game. If we can get in their head even a little we consider it a success for that particular chant, not that them ignoring us is a failure obviously.

Last night Chris Paul was *****ing and moaning to a ref after he got called for a foul and we were yelling at him to stop whining and he gave us quite a glance while our player shot his free throws, those things are entertaining and fulfilling to say the least.

So yeah other than profanity, attacking medical conditions they give us pretty decent freedom, we have a Bucks employee who is part of Squad 6 but at the same time keeps us in line, helps organize as needed and all of that so if we get out of line on a particular chant they will stop it pretty quick. He didn't go to the game in Indy because he had to work his other job so it was myself and 2 others that helped organize this trip to Indy that made sure we didn't cross any lines this time. We have a couple members who love to push the envelope which has led to some good chants but at the same time we just know to watch it.

So yeah, we always try to walk a thin line between appropriate and trying to intimidate and get in the heads of the players while also not offending anyone. For instance we never would have chanted cancer patient at Charlie Villanueva, some lines are only for Kevin Garnett to cross :P

kielbeze
11-07-2010, 09:31 AM
I think chuckles is a pacer fan in the closet I like this guy!

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 09:35 AM
Nope not even in the slightest, I do like your young talent and have nothing against your team as a whole other than Granger being a complete idiot and a piece of garbage :P

I also never liked Reggie Miller which I'm guessing might be sort of sacrilegious for a true Pacers fan.

That being said I spent roughly 10 years growing up living out near Seattle so those are my secondary teams(Mariners, Seahawks, Sonics) and I don't ever want any mid sized market to go through what I went through as a Sonics fan. After that crap went down I sort of feel like small/mid sized NBA teams need to look out for eachother or David Stern might try to steal our team away too.

EDIT: also with the Bucks off to a 2-5 start our board is bordering on intolerable right now, people are coming up with some great ideas on how we should trade for Baron Davis and get rid of Brandon Jennings. This board is more enjoyable until people settle down.

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 09:49 AM
EDIT: also with the Bucks off to a 2-5 start our board is bordering on intolerable right now, people are coming up with some great ideas on how we should trade for Baron Davis and get rid of Brandon Jennings. This board is more enjoyable until people settle down.

I feel you bro. We are halfway sane right now. Thanks for the extra thoughts. We were told we can't say anything about the refs... so that's gonna change ASAP!

I was ready to challenge Violet Palmer with all those fouls she was calling your way.

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 09:53 AM
I feel you bro. We are halfway sane right now. Thanks for the extra thoughts. We were told we can't say anything about the refs... so that's gonna change ASAP!

I was ready to challenge Violet Palmer with all those fouls she was calling your way.



I was ready to destroy our refs last night, I thought they had a good first half and in the second half/4th quarter they decided to be awful. Hard to say how much of that was homer goggles in the heat of the moment though, amazing how you and I could probably watch a Pacers vs Bucks game right next to eachother and see two different things on a lot of calls. I consider myself pretty fair if I see a foul against the Bucks I have no problem admitting it but I imagine most calls that were close I'd see for the Bucks and you would see for the Pacers ;)

EDIT: also its probably easier to stay sane when you went into the season with lower expectations, obviously as a die hard fan you want your team to be the best but you probably didn't go into the season expecting 50 wins like a lot of Bucks fans did

Kaufman
11-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Hola chuckleslove, we need to have some cervezas sometime. By the way, tell the big guy I saw with the wrestling belt that rolling around with sweaty guys isn't exactly my idea of fun.


http://www.memphisflyer.com/images/blogimages/2010/03/10/1268241604-andykaufman.jpg

avoidingtheclowns
11-07-2010, 11:54 AM
Last night Chris Paul was *****ing and moaning to a ref after he got called for a foul and we were yelling at him to stop whining and he gave us quite a glance while our player shot his free throws, those things are entertaining and fulfilling to say the least.

Just so y'all know, Pacer fans learned the hard way what happens when you **** Chris Paul off (http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=43451).

Eddie Gill
11-07-2010, 12:23 PM
I agree with kielbieze about the PA music hurting. IIRC the Pacers were the first team in the league to pump in sound effects during games. Not only does this hurts A55, but I think its largely to blame for the general malaise at Conseco that several people have alluded to. People sit around and wait to be entertained rather than be vocal and be a part of the action. It's always been one of my biggest pet peeves about going to Pacers games - I just feel like it creates this artificial, sterile, atmosphere which in no way benefits the players on the court. I think if the PA does less people will fill the void. It's just tough to create a home court advantage when the PA is drowning out the fans.

chuckleslove
11-07-2010, 12:30 PM
I really hope some of you can make it up to a Bucks game to see us in person. Even if you can't get a big group like we had down there and even if its not for a Pacers game though I think you would obviously enjoy that more. If you could even get 2-5 people up there to see how it runs in person I think you would enjoy it and benefit. Might be better to not be a Pacers game so you could pay more attention to us and less to the game :P

pacer4ever
11-07-2010, 01:58 PM
Nope not even in the slightest, I do like your young talent and have nothing against your team as a whole other than Granger being a complete idiot and a piece of garbage :P

I also never liked Reggie Miller which I'm guessing might be sort of sacrilegious for a true Pacers fan.

That being said I spent roughly 10 years growing up living out near Seattle so those are my secondary teams(Mariners, Seahawks, Sonics) and I don't ever want any mid sized market to go through what I went through as a Sonics fan. After that crap went down I sort of feel like small/mid sized NBA teams need to look out for eachother or David Stern might try to steal our team away too.

EDIT: also with the Bucks off to a 2-5 start our board is bordering on intolerable right now, people are coming up with some great ideas on how we should trade for Baron Davis and get rid of Brandon Jennings. This board is more enjoyable until people settle down.

please do my 2nd favorite team is the clippers and Baron is horrible. Eric Blesdose is better right now. Trading jennings would be a horrible move. He is struggling with his shot but it will com around. I watch a lot of the bucks on league pass pretty fun team to watch.

imawhat
11-07-2010, 02:19 PM
I really hope some of you can make it up to a Bucks game to see us in person. Even if you can't get a big group like we had down there and even if its not for a Pacers game though I think you would obviously enjoy that more. If you could even get 2-5 people up there to see how it runs in person I think you would enjoy it and benefit. Might be better to not be a Pacers game so you could pay more attention to us and less to the game :P

I watch a lot of Bucks games (including last night's) and I think the atmosphere Squad 6 has created is great. Part of it seemed to be Jennings' hot start last season, but I can't believe the crowd difference between '08-'09 and '09-'10 (and this season). I'm glad some of you showed up on Friday so our squad could see how it should be done.

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 03:33 PM
Did you see us on TV?

Every game FSI have showed the fans in Area 55. In the Bucks game they showed section 101 about 53 minutes in, for about ten seconds. If someone with more computer savvy than me can post it, I would appreciate it.

I paused my DVR and took a closer look. The first three rows are the paid less than half-price for my seat people. The third row is standing up but half of them do not have the Pacer gear on. The fourth row is where the hard-core 55ers start. You can clearly see the "Secretary of chants", Will "the Chancellor" (chant leader) and El Pacero. They are the heart of Area 55 and it's good to see them all together.

The problem starts right behind them with the four grandma's. Now the redhead is a sweet old lady that must have been a cute flower girl in the 1960's but her friend could not keep up. The other two grandma's should not have been there. They sat the whole time with frowns, not making a peep. How can they enjoy themselves when people are standing in front of them, blocking their view? They should have been placed elsewhere. I say the "Chairman" needs to tactfully talk to the "suits" and get them to move.

Behind the four grandma's were "Colts Superfan", "PTO President", me and the "Fathead guy". Behind us were "pacers4ever", "indyhoya" & "CLott". Our little core group was loud, proud and protecting the promise.

There are about a dozen hard-core 55ers, a dozen good 55ers, a dozen good wannabe's and the rest are an embarrassment. We go to the post-game meeting with Roy and there is over a hundred people in attendance.

Area 55 where we chant "de-fence" about every possession and no one can hear us. Go Pacers!

Naptown_Seth
11-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Guys, can I put in a request. Last year I had a great idea but was to lazy to make good on it. Some of you might recall that the Orlando Summer League announcers called Roy "Hungry Hungry Hibbert". Then the Star had a photo of Roy sitting at the table with a knife and fork digging into a basketball to start the season.

My plan for last year was to make a sign with Hungry Hungry Hibbert on one side and then a "xXx" on the other but obviously using capital H's instead (but same small-large-small style). It's begging to be something. Even though it's a bit corny it just lends itself to chants and all sorts of fun gags and gimmicks. His offseason dedication only adds to that "hungry" angle.

Heck, I'm wanting to do a vid mashup of the HHHippo commerical (hippos grabbing the marbles) cut with Roy grabbing rebounds.

Could you add in a Hungry Hungry Hibbert chant at some point? I'm hoping to make a sign for the FRI game (finally).

Then after that I need to get my custom jersey with the name McBeard on it. :D

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 03:51 PM
The "Secretary" and the "Chancellor" need to get on PD so they can get in the know. How can you lead us when you don't know what's going on?

Aw Heck
11-07-2010, 04:48 PM
Here's a chant idea. How about a drawn-out "Yeeeeeeaah Royyyyy!" (a la Flava Flav's "Yeah Boy!")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wUsbhzt_lI

Simple enough. I know there's already a "Hib Hib HooRoy" chant, but this could be an alternative. Maybe for blocked shots?

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 04:56 PM
Their are a lot of good chant ideas but the problem is that our "Secretary" and our "Chancellor" are out of touch. They need to be called out.

Area 55 where our leaders don't join PD. Go Pacers!

Deadshot
11-07-2010, 05:10 PM
Their are a lot of good chant ideas but the problem is that our "Secretary" and our "Chancellor" are out of touch. They need to be called out.

Area 55 where our leaders don't join PD. Go Pacers!

If they aren't on here then it doesn't make much sense to keep complaining about it here.

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 05:20 PM
If they aren't on here then it doesn't make much sense to keep complaining about it here.

Maybe somebody else can guilt them into joining and tell them they are being called out. Maybe El Pacero can help us out?

Hicks
11-07-2010, 05:23 PM
Here's a chant idea. How about a drawn-out "Yeeeeeeaah Royyyyy!" (a la Flava Flav's "Yeah Boy!")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wUsbhzt_lI

Simple enough. I know there's already a "Hib Hib HooRoy" chant, but this could be an alternative. Maybe for blocked shots?

I like that.

vapacersfan
11-07-2010, 05:38 PM
I know the Pacers monitor Pacers fan sites, so hopefully they are following this thread.

I think having someone from PS&E involved would be a great idea.

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 06:06 PM
If a chant doesn't get approved by the Chancellor it doesn't get done. We have "De-fense" & "D D D De-fense" but can't seem to mix in a "D it up". If the Chancellor would make a PTO meating we could get on the same page. If the Secretary was an adult we could ask him to print out some sheets with the basic chants and when to use them. At half-time the hard-core 55ers get together and talk shop but that's not enough.

At the last meeting with Roy, he asked us to yell at the opposing center when they had the ball. I got the impression that he didn't like us yelling when he had the ball. The defense chant is going to be hard to stop just because Roy is getting posted up.

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Their are a lot of good chant ideas but the problem is that our "Secretary" and our "Chancellor" are out of touch. They need to be called out.

Area 55 where our leaders don't join PD. Go Pacers!

Hey Markus! Maruks! Hey over here... no this way. I am right here!

PS&E is watching this thread. I talked to them yesterday and expect some changes.

I'm no Chancellor by the way. How many times do I have to tell you, you must only refer to me as El Pacero?!? ;)

indianapolismarkus
11-07-2010, 07:59 PM
PS&E is watching this thread. I talked to them yesterday and expect some changes.

I'm no Chancellor by the way. How many times do I have to tell you, you must only refer to me as El Pacero?!? ;)

Will is the Chancellor. If you can get a hold of him and/or the Secretary and tell them they need to get on PD I'd appreciate it.

El Pacero
11-07-2010, 08:01 PM
Will is the Chancellor. If you can get a hold of him and/or the Secretary and tell them they need to get on PD I'd appreciate it.

Ahh good. I just want to be a fun guy. I'll talk to Will.

kielbeze
11-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Ok i am All for getting this thing together and getting it organized.
But whats up with some new material we need to get creative and just get some original stuff here. I know i Have had a few ideas and squad six kind of used one but mine is different. Mine was when the opponents foul we chant "On you, on you, on you on you on you HUUUH And i really liked Steve Ewing and his wifes idea of singing we ready while were turned around during the opposing teams intros. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFDlShmOng&ob=av2e

spazzxb
11-08-2010, 12:20 AM
I was at the game Friday and thought I would share my observations from section 15. If you look at the picture below you will see a couple things standing out. First the guy sitting in the first row looking at his cellphone looked boring all night, this is the face of area 55 and just looks very bad with his close lying over the glass. The face of area 55 should be at least involved and energetic if your going to sit or just stand with your hands in your pockets you should not be in the front of such a visible section. If anything is going to be draped over the glass it should be a pacers or Area 55 banner not someones junk. I have heard cellphones are off limits but obviously this wasn't the case here. Also if you wonder what everyone is looking at, I believe they are watching the section 6 group, which I will comment on after the picture.

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr272/spazzxb/pacers%20nov%202010/DSC04339.jpg


I know this is new and that the bucks fans have been at this for a while, however, as I know everyone is well aware, they basically turned this game into a bucks home game crowd-wise. These are my suggestions to help improve the section.


Anyone who isn't activly participating should not be allowed in area 55 and/or be forced to the back of the section. If the front row isn't into it everyone looks bad.
recognize that its more important to make noise than be creative. We can't understand most of it anyway.
integrating chants with graphics should be utilized for a few generic cheers to encourage total fan participation(like Hib Hib Hooray but . through repitition comes education.
some integration with the drumline would be great. they were the onlt thing that competed with section 6. (defens, Bang Bang, Defense, bang bang)
again be loud, creativity is really is secondary. Say the same chants 5 times a night just be loud.


I know you have all heard how bad things were friday and I am sure it will improve but I just wanted to let you know what I saw and share this photo.

redfoster
11-08-2010, 01:15 AM
Hah, could it be he was banned at some point and can't come here? :p

I don't understand why he doesn't want to at least come and check out these discussions.

indianapolismarkus
11-08-2010, 01:22 AM
Thanks Spazz, that picture is much better than the ten seconds we had on FSI.

The hole in the middle behind El Pacero is a shame. The people that do not have Pacer gear on is a shame. I say we need to add another rule. No, bare man nipples. The kids from Carmel high school can't seem to keep there shirts on.

It would be nice if someone could get a picture when we are all excited about a good Pacer play like a dunk or a three pointer.

vapacersfan
11-08-2010, 01:43 AM
Hah, could it be he was banned at some point and can't come here? :p

I don't understand why he doesn't want to at least come and check out these discussions.

Believe it there are quite a few fans who really do not like message boards.

Then again, there are quite a few people who do not like twitter :laugh:

spazzxb
11-08-2010, 02:26 AM
Thanks Spazz, that picture is much better than the ten seconds we had on FSI.

The hole in the middle behind El Pacero is a shame. The people that do not have Pacer gear on is a shame. I say we need to add another rule. No, bare man nipples. The kids from Carmel high school can't seem to keep there shirts on.

It would be nice it someone could get a picture when we are all excited about a good Pacer play like a dunk or a three pointer.

Unfortunatly, this is the best I can do. The most energized I saw the section was during the air guitar thing. Most my attention was, however, on the court.

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr272/spazzxb/pacers%20nov%202010/DSC04353.jpg

El Pacero
11-08-2010, 02:53 AM
These pics are great spazzxb. Since we all grouped up for this game, it looks like Rows 3 - 6 are pretty much the hardcore members. My one fear with general admission, is a group like the Carmel kids will get stuck in the back again... they pretty much equal a whole row. They need to be with the core group or they lose focus (and because they make a big difference.) Hopefully we end up like Squad Six and we figure out where we're sitting and everyone respects that for the rest of the season.

I Love P
11-08-2010, 03:00 AM
We all need to match like squad 6 and im talking about a darker yellow than that ugly area55 shirt

El Pacero
11-08-2010, 03:47 AM
We all need to match like squad 6 and im talking about a darker yellow than that ugly area55 shirt

Totally bro. The fact they all matched (which they planned for that game) was huge to make them all look like a group. I never thought about the shade of yellow, but if we at least all wore the Area 55 shirts it would make a big difference.

Edit: Looking at the design from far away, they used light yellow shirt so the dark yellow print in middle of Pacers logo would show up. Could have kept it simple & cheaper and printed only blue on dark yellow shirt. I still think it's cool cause it says Area 55 and I'm a Pacers dork.

IndyHoya
11-08-2010, 08:44 AM
Totally bro. The fact they all matched (which they planned for that game) was huge to make them all look like a group. I never thought about the shade of yellow, but if we at least all wore the Area 55 shirts it would make a big difference.

Edit: Looking at the design from far away, they used light yellow shirt so the dark yellow print in middle of Pacers logo would show up. Could have kept it simple & cheaper and printed only blue on dark yellow shirt. I still think it's cool cause it says Area 55 and I'm a Pacers dork.

I like the brighter T-Shirt idea. I'll bring the lighter one tho for Denver until we get something better. Day-Glo Pacer Yellow or Deep Blue would be nice. Minimally, everybody in A55 should have some kind of Pacers gear on. We can have a few extra T-shirts for those that don't have anything or for kids. Oughta be a rule that no one sits in 101 without some sort of obvious Pacer gear or at least a Pacers T. If PS&E seats non-55 people there, they ought to at least make them wear shirts.

I'm also gonna get everybody in A55 to give us their emails. We shoulda had a mailing list a long time ago just for commo purposes. We coulda been much better alerted and forewarned about things like Squad 6 invasions that way and had an ability to counter better.

And one thing is certain. We're going to have lotsa dirt simple cheers repeated ad nauseam Tuesday as many here have suggested. It will be a nice experiment to see if the Conseco crowd picks up some of them and repeats them. If complexity of our cheers is a problem, as some here have claimed, we'll find out Tuesday night. A55 isn't supposed to be just entertainment for the masses. We're also supposed to be a catalyst for generating crowd noise. If it's simple cheers that are needed to engage the rest of the Arena, we'll see if we can do that.

There's also way too much cell-phoning and texting going on in A55. We ought to ban that during game time. Maybe we should ban eating anything during the game too. Do it at halftime only. If PS&E seats people in 101, they need to abide by the rules that are in place there too.

We'll also try to get more compact and be less spread out too and get some of the old timers in the front so they can see better and sit if they have to occasionally.

One thing people at PD need to remember, when comparing A55 to Squad 6, is that Squad 6 is probably bigger and generally a lot younger, on average, than us. Bogut bought 100 tix, I think and from the pictures I've seen of Squad 6, they are pretty young. Roy bought 55 tix and Roy's selections were more eclectic - lots of older types were selected. They're generally enthusiastic, but it's physically difficult for some of them to be standing the entire game and cheering loudly. One lady in A55 is 85 and another 73. One kid is a Special Olympics member and disabled. We try to accomodate everybody. PD needs to remember this and be charitable in its criticism.
But A55's biggest problem, if you look at the pictures posted earlier, are the admittees that get in and do nothing but sit there. If PS&E can address this and seat zanies that are there to be participatory instead of just sitting there and making us look lame, then it would be a big, big plus.

IndyHoya
11-08-2010, 09:10 AM
An afterthought. Those members of PD who have expressed a desire to be in A55 for a game or two ought to consider coming in. 101's seats generally aren't totally filled and there always seem to be seats empty in 102. Dunno if that would be OK with PS&E, but it's just a thought.

Hicks
11-08-2010, 01:26 PM
How much is a single game ticket in A-55?

pacer4ever
11-08-2010, 01:31 PM
How much is a single game ticket in A-55?

they dont sell single game tickets only season tickets

RWB
11-08-2010, 02:06 PM
How much is a single game ticket in A-55?

If you can't get a ticket that way, maybe we need to do a PD group ticket night?

Hicks
11-08-2010, 02:16 PM
That, or we get multiple PD folks to pool for one A-55 season ticket, and we schedule who goes when amongst the group.

Trophy
11-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Are all the seats full in the section?

Hicks
11-08-2010, 02:38 PM
Start a new one, explain what it's for, and I'll sticky it.

pacer4ever
11-08-2010, 02:42 PM
I dont know if it has changed, but originally you had to pick up each ticket at will call with the I.D. of the ticket holder. They dont give them all to you in advance to prevent resale. pacer4ever can elaborate or say if that has changed.

I had originally wanted to have my wife and 2 brothers go in together to get a package, but like I said whosever name they are purchsed under has to pick them up the day of the event.

I picked mine up at will call for the first 10gms. So maybe have one person who picks them up then share the tickets idk.

dgranger17
11-08-2010, 03:13 PM
Totally bro. The fact they all matched (which they planned for that game) was huge to make them all look like a group. I never thought about the shade of yellow, but if we at least all wore the Area 55 shirts it would make a big difference.

Edit: Looking at the design from far away, they used light yellow shirt so the dark yellow print in middle of Pacers logo would show up. Could have kept it simple & cheaper and printed only blue on dark yellow shirt. I still think it's cool cause it says Area 55 and I'm a Pacers dork.

Nobody ever told me about the meeting at Jillian's so I never got a shirt.

About those Carmel kids... they're absolutely nuts and need to be in front for sure. They also need to bring everybody they know, because the more they have... they crazier they get. Put El Pacero and Will behind them and we got ourselves a great start to AREA 55. I'm glad PS&E reads these threads, because I came up with a wonderful idea. Every A55 member who stands, yells, and chants all game gets 3 free beers! I'm tired of spending $21 every game and walking away disappointed because our section makes my heart hurt :(

I'll stand wherever you guys want me to (preferably not behind the 2 older women who sit all game) but I stay in Row 8 just because my ticket says it. I'd be more than happy to move down to 4-7 with Bender and IndianapolisMarkus. Also, IndyHoya has a deafening sound he makes with his mouth/hands that we all need to learn. If we can get 35+ people making that noise, I don't even see Reggie coming back and making a free throw

79-3

I Love P
11-08-2010, 04:36 PM
My voice won't be heard again tomorrow night but it will be well rested vs Houston.

Go P.

pacer4ever
11-08-2010, 05:14 PM
These could be some medium sized sign for us. facing us. so say will prim wanted to start puh puh puh pacers he can hold up the sign for a sec first. these r just a few simple ones. we can have our simple basic every possesion chants. then save the creative sutff for opposing teams free throws.

add 2much4u and really m i k e ?? all are her ones are really good and like the idea

brkyrd
11-08-2010, 06:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117279481668974&index=1 Heres the link to the tailgate tommorow. I think we need to be patient with the fans and with our lame season ticket holders in the lower level, they will catch on. It will be easier for them to learn on weeknights where Conseco wont be as full. 101 needs to be GA, and no one should sit during play in 101. If we had a full season under our belts and went up to MIL and squad 6 was in thier 1st year..we would have great success as well. I'd say by new years we should be firing on all cylinders...55 cylinders.

Trophy
11-08-2010, 06:12 PM
[IMG]Danny Granger = ?

I think someone said this already, but chant like how everyone used to chant for Reggie Miller (Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!), but instead chant Danny! Danny! Danny!

pacer4ever
11-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Area55 members need to show up at the pto tailgate before the gameso we can get a little organized

how about we meet at the area i swear 10mins b4 the game started there were only 10 people there in there seats.

spazzxb
11-08-2010, 08:21 PM
Well, my contention is that the A55 members ARE pulling their weight. And we have lots of simple cheers. We were doing DEFENSE all night. What could be simpler than that? And we got ZERO reaction from Conseco.

Most of our cheers are ridiculously simple. The fact is that nobody else in Conseco wants to cheer. I don't buy the: "Your cheers are too hard to follow". That's baloney. What's simpler than "Defense" or "Let's go Pacers, let's go. Clap clap clap. A moron could follow Puh-Puh-Pacers.

Ummm, you let a small group come all the way from Milwakee and embarrass you, I was there and somewhat embarrassed myself . I understand this was new and they were well organized but (as many of your a55 mates would agree) , that was nowhere near good enough .

spazzxb
11-08-2010, 09:51 PM
Move on.

I didn't realize that guys defensive post was old. Where were you sitting anyway. I didn't see you Friday night or in my picture. Just curious

redfoster
11-08-2010, 10:23 PM
He was directly above me, right by kielbeze and his wife. You didn't get either of us in your shot.

ColeTheMole
11-08-2010, 10:32 PM
So where exactly is the tailgating before the game? I'm sorry I missed it I just want to be on the same page with all the other area 55ers.

redfoster
11-08-2010, 10:36 PM
So where exactly is the tailgating before the game? I'm sorry I missed it I just want to be on the same page with all the other area 55ers.
Here is the info: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117279481668974

And here is a small map to help you find it: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs459.ash2/73241_173360252680465_100000194755448_617448_37473 87_n.jpg

ColeTheMole
11-08-2010, 10:41 PM
I will for sure be there if I can find the freaking place from that tiny map.

redfoster
11-08-2010, 10:43 PM
Yeah, I will definitely make it. Coming with a few beers and maybe some brats. Very pumped about tomorrow.

brkyrd
11-08-2010, 11:35 PM
haha...PTO mens room..thats good. I hope you guys have a grill, were not buyin food tommorow..were low on dough..just have enuff to park buy beer outside and in, he can bring his grill if u guys dont have one tho. I am so excited this thing is growing, after us 2 all year last year..its great to see people out there.

Abmowrey_PS&E
11-09-2010, 12:01 AM
Just wanted to let all the A55 members know that I (and a few others at PS&E) are on here quite often monitoring PD - mainly A55 related stuff. Can't promise how much I will post, but this is a good way from us to get beat on what's going on.

Since Opening Night we have been talking in the office on how we can improve A55. We have some ideas and a lot of them come from this message board. Keep the ideas and suggestions coming.

I know Friday was a little rough. Squad 6 was pretty determined to come in and send a message. In my opinion, I thought A55 outdid Squad 6 in the 2nd half. It's a long season and A55 will continue to get better and better each game. Let's not underestimate the difference A55 has already made on the atmosphere in CFH.

Let's be loud tomorrow!

brkyrd
11-09-2010, 03:09 AM
cool...ill talk to him tommorow

IndyHoya
11-09-2010, 08:37 AM
how about we meet at the area i swear 10mins b4 the game started there were only 10 people there in there seats.

It's always that way. Seems like Conseco (and Area 55) only fills up 5 minutes before gametime. Personally, I wish we'd get there earlier - like 20 minutes or so. We can do our socializing, tune up, learn whatever is new that we're doing and then bring it better when the game starts. I doubt that it'll happen though unless we inaugurate a hard and fast rule. It'll also cut into the tailgating time a little.

kielbeze
11-09-2010, 09:22 AM
Its so funny maybe its a PD thing but I am looking at this thread, looking who posted in it and all of the great 55ers Are right here on pd.
Kind of makes me proud :dance::champions

brkyrd
11-09-2010, 02:30 PM
If he'd be willing to bring his grill I could give him a propane tank for his troubles. I haven't bought my own grill yet. I bought brats buns and beer already. If not no biggie.

yea..hes gonna bring his grill, so game on! :buddies:

IndyHoya
11-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Its so funny maybe its a PD thing but I am looking at this thread, looking who posted in it and all of the great 55ers Are right here on pd.
Kind of makes me proud :dance::champions

I only found out about PD when Hicks mentioned it at the meeting A55 had a Jillians. It is a great blog. There's no better place to find out what's going on with the Pacers than here. I'm sure that ultimately all the Area 55 people will wind up joining.

IndyHoya
11-09-2010, 04:29 PM
By the way, in case anyone was wondering, Nene's real name was Maybyner Rodney Hilario. I'm sure we can do something with Maybyner.

I Love P
11-09-2010, 04:35 PM
Just saw the chants for tonight by the" secretary of chants". Once again they are not good...enjoy the game tonight a55.

Scot Pollard
11-09-2010, 04:51 PM
me and my girlfriend got our tickets for tonight and are expecting area 55 to rock the fieldhouse

i think we'll have a good crowd tonight in total tonight is a good matchup and we can win this game

remember the more we lose, the less amount of people will come

pacer4ever
11-09-2010, 04:55 PM
me and my girlfriend got our tickets for tonight and are expecting area 55 to rock the fieldhouse

i think we'll have a good crowd tonight in total tonight is a good matchup and we can win this game

remember the more we lose, the less amount of people will come

thats tight ill be there at 5:30 ready to rock

Hicks
11-09-2010, 05:22 PM
I only found out about PD when Hicks mentioned it at the meeting A55 had a Jillians. It is a great blog. There's no better place to find out what's going on with the Pacers than here. I'm sure that ultimately all the Area 55 people will wind up joining.

So... apparently there's someone going to A-55 meetings claiming to be me, then?

spazzxb
11-09-2010, 10:37 PM
i was standing next kielbeze and his wife. wasnt wearing the super fan get up. just a yellow zip pacer hoodie, and area 55 net hat.https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=dc6f84471b&view=att&th=12c2e75870e49501&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1351897207107747840-1&zw


I have a gift for you.

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr272/spazzxb/pacers%20nov%202010/th_IMG_6127.jpg (http://s491.photobucket.com/albums/rr272/spazzxb/pacers%20nov%202010/?action=view&current=IMG_6127.jpg)

flox
11-09-2010, 10:37 PM
Good job tonight, I could hear you guys!

pacer4ever
11-09-2010, 11:20 PM
Good job tonight, I could hear you guys!

we were great until the 5t row came in the 2qt :mad::mad: uggg

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 01:52 AM
I recorded the game on League Pass since I had my own game to go to. Could definitely hear you guys loud and clear early on some defense chants and it sounded like you guys did the whole jumping up and down just making a lot of noise thing as well?

Definitely noticed a drop off in the second quarter but good progress too, I'm sure you guys can improve on it game by game.

El Pacero
11-10-2010, 03:15 AM
I recorded the game on League Pass since I had my own game to go to. Could definitely hear you guys loud and clear early on some defense chants and it sounded like you guys did the whole jumping up and down just making a lot of noise thing as well?

Definitely noticed a drop off in the second quarter but good progress too, I'm sure you guys can improve on it game by game.

Thanks for watching us chuckleslove. That shows some love. We were real loud early for Area 55, but then close to 2nd quarter some seemingly-non-Area55-Members said they owned our seats so we were gone and so was Area 55.

After that fiasco we were never the same. We all moved to the back and tried to start over 2nd half, but it got all messed up after we got messed with. 2nd half was OK cause it was easy to be excited for us.

Trophy
11-10-2010, 09:47 AM
I heard the chants clearly. Nice job A-55.

Were there still Nuggets fans there in the 3rd? I heard a lot of cheering in the beginning of the game then I heard like 1 small "yay!" when they finally scored in the 3rd.

I guess they wanted to get their money's worth. The Nuggets only come once a season.

IndyHoya
11-10-2010, 11:23 AM
So... apparently there's someone going to A-55 meetings claiming to be me, then?

Maybe not, as I think about it. But there was a guy at the Jillian's meeting that stood up, as Roy came into the room, and said we should all be on Pacers Digest and gave me the distinct impression that he was the guy running the PD blog. As I look at your pic, he obviously wasn't you. I can't say that I've ever seen him again. My thinking that he was you stems from this. Possibly my bad, dunno. Anyway, his statement brought me here. I'm glad I came.

BPump33
11-10-2010, 11:36 AM
Here is an article written about Squad 6's trip to Indiana:

http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/11/09/10/Squad-6-invades-Indiana/landing_bucks.html?blockID=349277&feedID=5060

By Paul Imig
Special to FOXSportsWisconsin.com

INDIANAPOLIS -- When Squad Six realized that the Indiana Pacers were attempting to imitate them with a group of its own, Andrew Bogut’s crew of Milwaukee Bucks fanatics decided it was time to teach them a few things about creating a home-court advantage.

Squad Six members Chuck Schilling, Dan Hoelzl and Nick Honeck organized a road trip to Indiana to surprise Bucks players and turn Conseco Fieldhouse into Bradley Center East.

After more than two months of planning, 30 Squad Six members jumped into a bus at 10 a.m. Friday, the morning of Milwaukee’s game against the Pacers, and began the five-hour trek. They were also met by another eight fans who traveled in separate cars, as well two Bucks fans from Indianapolis and one from Pittsburgh.

“It’s a small token of appreciation for Bogut,” Schilling said. “Even renting a bus doesn’t even come close to what he pays for us for the season tickets.”

Before last season Bogut decided to inject some extra energy into the Bradley Center by purchasing 100 season tickets and giving them to the rowdiest bunch that he could find.

Squad Six had considered trying a road trip last season, but was unable to set the plan into motion. But after a year of experience together, the group felt that the time was right to give it a shot.

After initially discussing traveling to Minnesota, the plan was switched to Indiana after getting word that Pacers center Roy Hibbert was looking to start his own version of Squad Six, a group he calls Area 55.

“We’re going to defend our honor,” Schilling said.

The trip was considered top-secret by Squad Six members. They were all told to never address it publicly, fearing that some of the Bucks players would find out about it and put a damper on their unveiling at tip-off.

Returning members from last season discreetly handed out flyers at this year’s auditions. They also used careful wording on Facebook to let people know that something was in the works without completely giving it away.

Unfortunately for Squad Six, they were in for a surprise of their own.

Less than an hour before the game, Bucks coach Scott Skiles was asked if the team was sticking with the same starting lineup. It was then that Skiles casually mentioned that Bogut was not at the arena and would not be playing due to a migraine.

After receiving word about Bogut’s absence, Squad Six’s enthusiasm was temporarily deflated.

“I was really dejected,” Hoelzl said. “Not only that he wasn’t able to play, but that he wasn’t in the building and see that we were there.”

Schilling was given the less-than-desirable task of telling his mates about the Australian-born big man being out of the lineup for the game.

“They thought I was just joking with them because we were talking about it earlier in the day,” Schilling said. “On the car ride this morning on the way to the bus, we were talking about his migraines and what would happen if he got one tonight.

“But I knew word would get to him. We don’t just come to root for Bogut; we come to root for the Bucks. We just had to bring it that much harder. We had to make sure that we were loud enough that word would get to Bogut.”

Once the game started, Squad Six was quickly noticed by fans and players.

Brandon Jennings said after the game that he immediately recognized the group dressed all in red screaming from the second level.

Despite having only half as many members in Indiana (40) than are at Milwaukee home games (80), Squad Six wasted no time in chanting at Hibbert when the 7-foot-2 Pacers center was at the free throw line.

“BO-GUT’S BET-TER,” they yelled.

It didn’t take long for Area 55 to come to Hibbert’s aide.

“WHERE IS BO-GUT?” the Indiana group chanted in reply.

Apparently, Area 55 was not loud enough for Squad Six to hear them three sections over.

“WE CAN’T HEAR YOU,” they shouted back.

Early in the game, when the Pacers jumped out to a lead, Squad Six was undeterred.

“It seemed like Area 55 at first was shell-shocked by our presence there,” Honeck said. “Then they tried to engage us by chanting at us. I think it frustrated them that we didn’t take the bait.”

Indiana’s mascot, Boomer, came around with silly-string in the second quarter and covered Squad Six, much to the delight of the home crowd.

But there was even a chant ready for Boomer.

“BAN-GO’S BET-TER,” Squad Six yelled back in support of the Bucks mascot.

Trailing by six entering the fourth quarter, Milwaukee outscored the Pacers by 10 in the final period to bring home a 94-90 win.

Squad Six believes that they, as well as Bogut, played a role in the victory despite neither stepping on the court.

“Even though we were disappointed that Bogut couldn’t be there tonight, I thought that he still was able to impact this Bucks victory,” Hoelzl said. “Without Bogut there would be no Squad Six and we would not have been in the crowd to provide the Bucks with the emotional support that I think allowed them to make the comeback they did.”

After soaking up the enjoyment of being able to walk out of Conseco Fieldhouse with a win, Squad Six piled back into the bus and headed back to Milwaukee.

All in all, the group viewed their first-ever road trip as a huge success.

“Leading up to it was very nerve-wracking,” Honeck said. “It was very easy to tell once we boarded the bus that we had the right group of people. Because of everyone that we had here it was awesome.”

Five hours on the road and one pit stop for fast food later, Squad Six arrived home at 3:30 a.m.

With a home game later that night, the group marveled at how players do that on a fairly routine basis.

But with plans to possibly invade either Chicago or Detroit for a second road trip on the agenda, Squad Six is ready to do it all over again.

The following note was sent to Squad 6 by fellow member and Bucks employee Zak Grim upon the group's return from Indianapolis:
I wanted to give a big shout out to all the members that took the trip down to Indianapolis for last night’s game against the Pacers. Not only did it sound like a great experience for everyone that was able to attend, but it sounds like a lot of people were impressed by the job you guys did. I haven’t heard anything but positive things from those I’ve talked with; you guys & girls represented the Milwaukee Bucks, Andrew Bogut, and Squad 6 well.

I took a look at some websites and forums today and wanted to pass along some of the things that Pacer fans are saying about Squad 6:

“The little Bucks section really out did Area 55 tonight”

“On TV, I could hear the Bucks fans all night”

“I heard squad 6 all night. They were quite loud.”

“I watched on TV and the Bucks section seemed WAY more into the game”

“The shot clock chant was brilliant. We took 2-3 early shots because of it.”

“Squad 6 was literally non-stop”

“Squad 6 was standing and cheering non-stop all night long”

“Those Bucks fans were louder than all of Conseco at times”

“I have never been more tired in my life competing against Squad Six”

“I knew we were in TROUBLE on the Pacers first possession when the loudest sound in the building wasn’t the fans, the organ, or the drum line…. It was the chant of DE-FENSE coming from Section 20!”

“Bogut is getting more bang for his Buck when it comes to the rowdy fan section!”

Looks like people are really starting to ‘Fear the Deer’ all over the NBA. Let’s get ready for tonight’s game against the Hornets and keep the momentum going through the rest of the season. ~Zak Grim

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 11:46 AM
Maybe not, as I think about it. But there was a guy at the Jillian's meeting that stood up, as Roy came into the room, and said we should all be on Pacers Digest and gave me, the distinct impression anyway, that he was the guy running the blog. As I look at your pic, he obviously wasn't you. I can't say that I've ever seen him again. My thinking that he was you stems from this. Possibly my bad, dunno. Anyway, his statement brought me here.

Not sure if he has a picture posted somewhere else or just the forum avatar but his avatar is Bryan Cranston from Breaking Bad one of the best shows currently on TV.

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 11:47 AM
Regarding that article, if you actually go to the page you can see an accompanying video there. Paul did a great job and I know ElPacero had contacted me worrying that some of his venting on twitter might make it into the article but I think they did a great job of just highlighting what a good experience it was for the Bucks rather than trashing or putting negativity on you guys. Hope you feel the same way.

IndyHoya
11-10-2010, 01:09 PM
Not sure if he has a picture posted somewhere else or just the forum avatar but his avatar is Bryan Cranston from Breaking Bad one of the best shows currently on TV.

LOL...I shoulda picked up on that. I have no idea who Hicks really is then.

Peck
11-10-2010, 01:17 PM
http://www.icenews.is/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bodybuilding-iceland.jpg

Here is a photo I snapped of Hicks as we were leaving our last admin. meeting. He had just put Roaming Gnome in a headlock prior to this photo because he was being to rowdy.

Usually he wears less cloths than this in public.

brkyrd
11-10-2010, 01:52 PM
CHICKEN NUGGETS!!!!

MyFavMartin
11-10-2010, 01:58 PM
http://www.icenews.is/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bodybuilding-iceland.jpg

Here is a photo I snapped of Hicks as we were leaving our last admin. meeting. He had just put Roaming Gnome in a headlock prior to this photo because he was being to rowdy.

Usually he wears less cloths than this in public.

This is what happens after an Oompa-Loompa gets mad from all the teasing he gets. Unfortunately, the steroids do nothing for the 8" legs and we all can out run Hicks... except for Roaming Gnome. No one runs in his family. :laugh:

BillS
11-10-2010, 02:54 PM
... except for Roaming Gnome. No one runs in his family. :laugh:

Well, lots of things run in Gnome's family, but they aren't very nice... :zip:

IndyHoya
11-10-2010, 03:07 PM
http://www.icenews.is/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bodybuilding-iceland.jpg

Here is a photo I snapped of Hicks as we were leaving our last admin. meeting. He had just put Roaming Gnome in a headlock prior to this photo because he was being to rowdy.

Usually he wears less cloths than this in public.

Thanks for the heads up. This was definitely NOT the guy at Roy's Jillians soiree.

kielbeze
11-10-2010, 03:08 PM
Maybe not, as I think about it. But there was a guy at the Jillian's meeting that stood up, as Roy came into the room, and said we should all be on Pacers Digest and gave me the distinct impression that he was the guy running the PD blog. As I look at your pic, he obviously wasn't you. I can't say that I've ever seen him again. My thinking that he was you stems from this. Possibly my bad, dunno. Anyway, his statement brought me here. I'm glad I came.
That would have been me that said that lol.
PS&E told everyone to follow on twitter and facebook so I had to get PD in there.

kielbeze
11-10-2010, 03:15 PM
By the way chuckles the best chant of the night you missed.
It was after the game walking down stairs when two nugget "fans"
Came down the stairs in their nugget jerseys. We heckled them a little bit and chanted its a blowout. Then I noticed one of them had the tag still on the jersey hanging out of the back with a bright orange clearance sticker on it.
So we followed them out chanting "IT WAS ON CLEARANCE" LMAO

Hicks
11-10-2010, 03:19 PM
Thanks for the heads up. This was definitely NOT the guy at Roy's Jillians soiree.

:laugh:

IndyHoya
11-10-2010, 03:19 PM
That would have been me that said that lol.
PS&E told everyone to follow on twitter and facebook so I had to get PD in there.

Hey...now that you mention it, it was a sorta ugly heavy set, bearded guy. The way you were throwing your weight around, I figured you for being PD's head honcho!

How wrong I was!

Maybe Hicks should put you in a headlock!

kielbeze
11-10-2010, 03:29 PM
Hey...now that you mention it, it was a sorta ugly heavy set, bearded guy. The way you were throwing your weight around, I figured you for being PD's head honcho!

How wrong I was!

Maybe Hicks should put you in a headlock!
now that we bring it up Hicks will probably ban me!
Its the reason your here.

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 03:40 PM
By the way chuckles the best chant of the night you missed.
It was after the game walking down stairs when two nugget "fans"
Came down the stairs in their nugget jerseys. We heckled them a little bit and chanted its a blowout. Then I noticed one of them had the tag still on the jersey hanging out of the back with a bright orange clearance sticker on it.
So we followed them out chanting "IT WAS ON CLEARANCE" LMAO

Nice, we are big fans of simple and obvious chants like "It was on Clearance" that sort of stuff is awesome.

Apparently the Knicks bench last night was cracking up when we chanted "second choice" at Amar'e but I didn't notice.

Our best received chant from year 1 was singing "Dude Looks Like a Lady" to Joakim Noah. Literally had both Bucks and Bulls players laughing on the line as Joakim tried to shoot free throws.

Never underestimate the value of a simple chant to get in someone's head.

BillS
11-10-2010, 03:45 PM
Having spent the better part of my Pacer Fandom in exile in Atlanta, I don't like to see opposing fans heckled too much. It takes a lot of guts to show up and support your team in the heart of the enemy, and while good-natured ribbing is OK, organized humiliation doesn't sit well.

El Pacero
11-10-2010, 03:49 PM
Having spent the better part of my Pacer Fandom in exile in Atlanta, I don't like to see opposing fans heckled too much. It takes a lot of guts to show up and support your team in the heart of the enemy, and while good-natured ribbing is OK, organized humiliation doesn't sit well.

I agree Bill. I went and shook their hands during our little heckling and they were smiling about it.

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 04:04 PM
Having spent the better part of my Pacer Fandom in exile in Atlanta, I don't like to see opposing fans heckled too much. It takes a lot of guts to show up and support your team in the heart of the enemy, and while good-natured ribbing is OK, organized humiliation doesn't sit well.

There is definitely a fine line between good natured heckling and being mean. Thats why I personally like something like "It's on Clearance" or whatever. That isn't insulting and is just good clean fun.

I know when we have Lakers, Boston and this year Heat games, we love to heckle fans about their long ride back to LA, Boston or Miami(last year Cleveland) after the game. Its not mean spirited but good clean heckling :P

I mean we were severely outnumbered in Indiana and obviously we were a group so we could make our own noise but I loved it when the section to our right started getting on us in the 4th quarter and trying to out cheer us, made it a lot more fun. Just have to make sure you don't cross those lines into being mean or nasty.

Since86
11-10-2010, 04:04 PM
Having spent the better part of my Pacer Fandom in exile in Atlanta, I don't like to see opposing fans heckled too much. It takes a lot of guts to show up and support your team in the heart of the enemy, and while good-natured ribbing is OK, organized humiliation doesn't sit well.

We went to game 3 (I think) of the Pacers/Pistons series in 2004, and I will say this. Some opposing fans need more than heckled, no not phsyical altercation. A Det. fan got kicked out of the section next to us, and he's lucky that's all that happen, because there for a minute, I thought there was going to be a fight.

I'm all for having fun and throwing out comments towards each other, but you don't come into someone's house and just be an over-the-top dickhead to those around you, and expect not to get something in return.


And BTW, the best game atmosphere I've ever been at was this past Final Four, for the Butler/Michigan State game at the Hooters downtown. Hopefully someone else on the board was there that night, because it was ONE HELL of a time. There was a large gathering of MSU fans and everyone was just going back and forth with one liners, and as everyone knows, the game was amazing to watch. Afterwards, everyone shook hands and gave their goodlucks, cheered and had a drink together.

That was a great weekend in general. I think we ended up being at Hooters for almost 8hrs. Just a crazy night downtown.......

I Love P
11-10-2010, 04:18 PM
Chuck, we appreciate you trying to help our guys and gals out in A55, but...wow, Bucks fans deserve a better board.

Yea, that board is pathetic. Any ideas for Houston?

RWB
11-10-2010, 04:21 PM
can we please get an area 55 sticky

Greenway, if I'm not mistaken Hicks suggested you start a NEW thread dedicated to A55 and it will get stickied. I believe this thread has too many comments and pages to benefit what you're trying to set up.

pacer4ever
11-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Greenway, if I'm not mistaken Hicks suggested you start a NEW thread dedicated to A55 and it will get stickied. I believe this thread has too many comments and pages to benefit what you're trying to set up.

ya thats what hicks said

here hicks http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=58172

IndyHoya
11-10-2010, 04:28 PM
now that we bring it up Hicks will probably ban me!
Its the reason your here.

He'll probably ban both of us. We'd both better shut up and lie low. :)

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 04:40 PM
Chuck, we appreciate you trying to help our guys and gals out in A55, but...wow, Bucks fans deserve a better board.

What? Our board is fantastic, not sure what exactly you are talking about. It is a bit crazy right now with our team underachieving expectations but its one of the better forums I've been a part of on the internet.


You guys have a good one going here too from what I can tell.

RWB
11-10-2010, 04:44 PM
What? Our board is fantastic, not sure what exactly you are talking about. It is a bit crazy right now with our team underachieving expectations but its one of the better forums I've been a part of on the internet.


You guys have a good one going here too from what I can tell.

Maybe I've been here too long, just seemed the layout was a little hard to get use to, sorry should have explained better as I am not referring to your posters or fan base. Rather sifting through threads about Call Of Duty and New Year's Eve plans. That is the reason I removed my original post, but someone got to it before I deleted it. RWB

pacer4ever
11-10-2010, 04:47 PM
What? Our board is fantastic, not sure what exactly you are talking about. It is a bit crazy right now with our team underachieving expectations but its one of the better forums I've been a part of on the internet.


You guys have a good one going here too from what I can tell.

I just dont like realgm layout not as user friendly. I read your board from time to time (nets4nets). But after having a board like this it makes realGM look bad lol. But this site problly takes a ton of time to do.

chuckleslove
11-10-2010, 05:03 PM
I found your board hard to follow along at first too :P Still prefer the realgm layout to this one personally but to each their own :)

chuckleslove
11-11-2010, 08:38 PM
If any of you are interested Squad 6 has its own radio show on one of our local stations from 7-8pm central time on Thursday nights. Every week they have 2 different Squad 6 members in the studio and tonight the two are people who went on the trip and talking about it will be one of the main topics on the show. You can listen live online for free at:

http://bit.ly/1250wssp

Thats 8pm Eastern for those of you that are clock challenged :P in 20 minutes from this post.

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:05 PM
If any of you are interested Squad 6 has its own radio show on one of our local stations from 7-8pm central time on Thursday nights. Every week they have 2 different Squad 6 members in the studio and tonight the two are people who went on the trip and talking about it will be one of the main topics on the show. You can listen live online for free at:

http://bit.ly/1250wssp

Thats 8pm Eastern for those of you that are clock challenged :P in 20 minutes from this post.

pretty cool ty

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:13 PM
ur guys are loving Drew Gooden lol

chuckleslove
11-11-2010, 09:15 PM
ur guys are loving Drew Gooden lol


I'm stunned because that guy(Jake) really really doesn't like Gooden. But when on the air we are somewhat representative of the team so we can't trash them too much :P

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:20 PM
I'm stunned because that guy(Jake) really really doesn't like Gooden. But when on the air we are somewhat representative of the team so we can't trash them too much :P

They make great points u guys are scary deep. when does CDR come back?

You guys are so lucky u got scott as ur coach he is probly my fav. coach.

What a story about his try out lol

chuckleslove
11-11-2010, 09:21 PM
CDR is due back in 2-3 weeks I think.

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:23 PM
CDR is due back in 2-3 weeks I think.

LOL we just thrown out stuff lol cheap shot lol

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:35 PM
They said Zach the director is the key to ur squad. He makes that big of differnce?? They said we will get better if we have a fearless leader like zach. Intersting

Scot Pollard
11-11-2010, 09:37 PM
theres a bucks fan here

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:39 PM
theres a bucks fan here

ya he's cool he was at the game last week

chuckleslove
11-11-2010, 09:40 PM
They said Zach the director is the key to ur squad. He makes that big of differnce?? They said we will get better if we have a fearless leader like zach. Intersting


It's Zak ;) not that it matters, he is engaged to my younger sister so he is pretty much family to me.

He does do a great job of keeping us organized and I know the Pacers are giving you someone to help do that. I can't promise they will have as big of an impact as Zak does but we have had Zak from day 1, people respect him and his authority, he makes sure we don't cross any lines, he starts a chant if we don't start it on our own. He is very instrumental in what we do. He didn't make the trip to Indiana because he had to work one of his other jobs but we were as organized as we were in our chants in large part because of what he has done.

chuckleslove
11-11-2010, 09:43 PM
theres a bucks fan here

I come in peace :P

pacer4ever
11-11-2010, 09:47 PM
ive been watching GS on league pass they are a lot better this yr should be a fun game to watch

RWB
11-12-2010, 10:10 AM
I come in peace :P

You've been great and I suspect you'll get some votes in here for 'Best Non Pacer Fan' during the PD awards.