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Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:10 PM
We needed a game thread so here we go.

Hans starts in place of Josh.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:11 PM
Rush and Hans in the starting line-up...

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:11 PM
And Brandon starts at the the 2.

So it's

Collison
Rush
Granger
Hans
Hibbert

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:12 PM
Any guess of who will lead us in SCORING tonight?

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:13 PM
I had a lot of trouble posting this thread too. It kept giving me an error. I ended up having to take "Pacers" out of the title and then edit it back in.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:14 PM
Nice bucket by Hans... Team looks off to start.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:15 PM
Hans looks very good.

tora tora
10-09-2010, 07:15 PM
Tyler feelin it!

MillerTime
10-09-2010, 07:16 PM
Hans with an early 5 points

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:16 PM
I had a lot of trouble posting this thread too. It kept giving me an error. I ended up having to take "Pacers" out of the title and then edit it back in.

That's weird, thanks for posting though!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:17 PM
I don't think we're taking that big of a step back from a talent perspective at the PF position. Josh and Tyler are a good rotation.

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:17 PM
Wow I forgot how tall Yao was... crazy

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:19 PM
LOTS of PnR early on.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:20 PM
Man Collison is quick!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:21 PM
Hans looks very good, very active, fighting for boards.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:22 PM
Yeah Hans and Collison looking good! Hans getting physical, that is what I wanted to see!

tora tora
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Danny needs to step his game up.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Hmm, gonna go eat some dinner, hopefully won't miss much.

tsm612
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Brandon Rush is doing some good things.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Also, Rush is trying to be aggressive, but he's missing open looks.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
high low action going we are sloppy

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:29 PM
amazing pass roy

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Roy's outlet pass looked just like vintage Bill Walton

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:29 PM
glad this is on nba tv i am loving hibberts game right now

flox
10-09-2010, 07:30 PM
i'm so glad that we have rush. he's doing such a good job on kmart that he would have shut down carter last night.

especially after all the haterade poured on MDJ last night about carter.

Doddage
10-09-2010, 07:31 PM
I love a starting lineup (or just a lineup in general) of DC, Rush, DG, Hans, and Hibbert.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:33 PM
ugg posey playing 4

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:34 PM
Yes, Hibberts movement and quickness has improved a lot!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:35 PM
holy **** jordan hill lol

immortality
10-09-2010, 07:37 PM
so many outside shots pacers...

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 07:37 PM
I hate hate hate hate Foster and Posey in together. Old, slow, no inside offense. Like a couple of mummies out there.

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 07:39 PM
Good god these announcers are aaaaawwwwwwwwwwffffffuuuuullllllllll

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:40 PM
should of been traveling by AJ but ill take it

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:41 PM
Good god these announcers are aaaaawwwwwwwwwwffffffuuuuullllllllll

thats clyde drexler dont hate on clyde "the glide" lol. i agree he is pretty bad

Psyren
10-09-2010, 07:43 PM
Good god these announcers are aaaaawwwwwwwwwwffffffuuuuullllllllll
Couldn't agree more. I'm almost tempted to mute the TV and just watch the game in silence.

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:43 PM
should of been traveling by AJ but ill take it

he should have passed it to George at the top of the key....

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:44 PM
great D paul

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:45 PM
Love Paul's length, he is going to be a really good defender if he keeps working!

Peck
10-09-2010, 07:46 PM
In all honesty I have no idea how this game is this close. I don't think we are playing well at all.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:47 PM
maybe we didnt need to trade for a PG with the way AJ has played lol glad we have a really good backup.

Deadshot
10-09-2010, 07:48 PM
maybe we didnt need to trade for a PG with the way AJ has played lol glad we have a really good backup.

Now we won't be forced to play TJ.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:49 PM
Paul George has a very effortless running style, he looks like he is gliding up and down the court, sort of like Kobe. Think of the opposite running style of a guy like SJax who looked labored getting up and down the court at times.

Very good coordination IMO.

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:50 PM
maybe we didnt need to trade for a PG with the way AJ has played lol glad we have a really good backup.

AJ can't penetrate like DC, he isn't as good on defense, and doesn't have that second gear, he does however have a better 3 pt shot...

Forgot DC has alot better vision than AJ imo

Pacerfan
10-09-2010, 07:50 PM
Jeff showing why he gets playing time. His hustle helping get rebounds esp on the offensive end.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 07:51 PM
Geez get a hand in his face Dunleavy....

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:51 PM
AJ is really scoring well so far this year, I'm impressed!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:51 PM
Foster looks better tonight, I'll give him credit. Maybe he saw my thread? ;)

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:52 PM
paul i playing really hard but his jumper is still off

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
AJ can't penetrate like DC, he isn't as good on defense, and doesn't have that second gear, he does however have a better 3 pt shot...

Forgot DC has alot better vision than AJ imo

i know i was just making a joke. He is really impressing me thoe.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
DG for three!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
Collison
Dun
Posey
Granger
Hibbert

The lineup now. Granger drains a three.

tsm612
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
I like that Paul is getting some playing time with the vets.

Pacers#1Fan
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
Just muted my tv. I can't take it anymore.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 07:53 PM
Okay I know Roy is silky smooth, but sometimes you just gotta throw it down big man.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:54 PM
Granger back to back threes.

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:54 PM
DG for three x2

Pacers#1Fan
10-09-2010, 07:54 PM
Impressive on the offensive glass tonight.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 07:55 PM
Could tell that last 3 he took as terrible he pump faked it in the middle of the shot and never got his full motion.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:55 PM
I am not liking posey very much

judicata
10-09-2010, 07:56 PM
Roy looks like a completely different man out there. Quicker, more agile, leaner, better hands. I'm very impressed.

vnzla81
10-09-2010, 07:56 PM
anybody watching the game on u-verse?

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:56 PM
paul i playing really hard but his jumper is still off

Yeah I'm happy that he is getting more comfortable out there one thing that I didn't think would be a problem with him(even though someone on here said it would) is his slow release, it will be interested to see if the coaches try to get him to adjust it...

Psyren
10-09-2010, 07:56 PM
I am not liking posey very much
I wish Posey would pop those 3's that he's getting when he's WIDE open. He's passing too much to guys that don't have a shot. If you're that open, take it.

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 07:57 PM
Dammit Hibbert!!!! Stop being such a pansy. YOU GOTTA DUNK THAT *****!!!!!!!!!!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Granger looks much better tonight.

Really?
10-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Just muted my tv. I can't take it anymore.

what is it that you dont like, their voices? what comments did you not like that they made? just wondering...?

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:59 PM
bad D how bout great pass by roy cylde

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 07:59 PM
what is it that you dont like, their voices? what comments did you not like that they made? just wondering...?

they are bad but i wont mute my tv lol

odeez
10-09-2010, 07:59 PM
Wow, nice passing by the Rockets!

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:00 PM
what is it that you dont like, their voices? what comments did you not like that they made? just wondering...?

Got great food here at the Toyota Center, You love the food!

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:01 PM
Scola is a great player, you wouldn't think by looking at him, but he so solid!

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:01 PM
Can't believe nobody called timeout in that scrum.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 08:01 PM
LMAO, I think that little point guard has now managed to irritate both of our PGs.

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:01 PM
they are bad but i wont mute my tv lol

Bad how? what are they doing? misquoting stuff, not funny enough, think they are funny when they are not. Are they bashing the Pacers... Just want something else to go on besides them being bad, idk...

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:02 PM
Got great food here at the Toyota Center, You love the food!

lol

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:05 PM
did cylde really just say hibbert travled?? it is called pivoting lol

Psyren
10-09-2010, 08:05 PM
Man, I love me some Hansbrough. When he grabs a board, nobody is going to take it from him.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Turning the ball over too much!

NapTonius Monk
10-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Our defense...

Pacers#1Fan
10-09-2010, 08:07 PM
what is it that you dont like, their voices? what comments did you not like that they made? just wondering...?
Very redundant, voices aren't really annoying. I think we have high quality commentators for Pacers games and am probably a little spoiled by them.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:07 PM
Wow Danny getting beat down here last few series, unacceptable to let that 2nd rounder beat you on the break like that.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:07 PM
"courtney lee could be a starter for many teams"

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Ishmal Smith is a good player not sure why he didn't get drafted, not sure how well he would work in our system though.

Also Chase Budinger is an interesting player, he has a shot, decent D, goes up for boards, it will be interesting to see how he develops.

tsm612
10-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Hansbrough is WAY better than I thought we was going to be right now. McRoberts' starting spot may not be a lock.

Psyren
10-09-2010, 08:09 PM
"Collison is quick as a cat". "Lee is quick as a cat". "Smith is quick as a cat".

Please, make it stop.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:09 PM
flush Brush

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:09 PM
I would like everyone to admit that the play call to end the half there to Rush by O'Brien was called out of a timeout and was an absolutely fantastic coaching decision.

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:10 PM
"courtney lee could be a starter for many teams"

Lee's problem is that his shot has been so inconsistent, he can be a very good player though.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:10 PM
hibbert 7 & 6 i really like the 6 rebs.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Lee's problem is that his shot has been so inconsistent, he can be a very good player though.

ya that was a quote from cylde

Sookie
10-09-2010, 08:11 PM
"Collison is quick as a cat". "Lee is quick as a cat". "Smith is quick as a cat".

Please, make it stop.

"reminds me of AJ"
"AJ...."
"The kid who was just in the game.."

And the little point guard and AJ aren't anything alike...

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Very redundant, voices aren't really annoying. I think we have high quality commentators for Pacers games and am probably a little spoiled by them.

Ok cool, just wondering I am not hearing everything because I am switching between this game and the PU NW game, I am probably missing alot of the commentary...

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:12 PM
lol they didnt know they were on the air LOL

NapTonius Monk
10-09-2010, 08:12 PM
I would like everyone to admit that the play call to end the half there to Rush by O'Brien was called out of a timeout and was an absolutely fantastic coaching decision.Funny how proper execution can make a play call look brilliant. Great job JOB! Great execution team!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:13 PM
"reminds me of AJ"
"AJ...."
"The kid who was just in the game.."

And the little point guard and AJ aren't anything alike...

ya he was like aj who lol. Then he said TJ LOL.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:13 PM
hibbert 7 & 6 i really like the 6 rebs.

Indeed! He has to be to able to get some boards for us, and at his height it's a must!

vnzla81
10-09-2010, 08:13 PM
anybody watching the game on u-verse? please

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:14 PM
ya that was a quote from cylde

gotcha

Trophy
10-09-2010, 08:14 PM
Roy is having a tough time scoring in the paint, but 7 points and 6 rebounds is good so far.

Danny's scoring and shooting has been very good and I'm pleased with Mike's as well.

EDIT: And Tyler's outside shooting and hustle has been great in the time he's played in.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:14 PM
OT: But I'm listening to Black Violin while watching the game, these guys are FIRE!

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:14 PM
anybody watching the game on u-verse? please

No, sorry man

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:15 PM
Is Patrick Patterson hurt?

Noodle
10-09-2010, 08:19 PM
I love a starting lineup (or just a lineup in general) of DC, Rush, DG, Hans, and Hibbert.

McRoberts has better chemistry with the starters, and will be a toy for Collison to pass to. I'd like to see them slpit time with Hansbrough giving us more options offensively off the bench.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:20 PM
Is Patrick Patterson hurt?

idk the commators didnt mention anything

Noodle
10-09-2010, 08:21 PM
anybody watching the game on u-verse? please

Why? Is the cable TV screwing up. Heard a lot of negativity towards U-verse and their sub-par TV performance...

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Well, I've had him pegged as a soon to be resident of bustville so I was wondering if there was any reason he wasn't playing other than they don't think he deserves minutes.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:23 PM
WORST HALFTIME SHOW EVER !!!!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:24 PM
Well, I've had him pegged as a soon to be resident of bustville so I was wondering if there was any reason he wasn't playing other than they don't think he deserves minutes.

we could use him lol like his game he can stroke it from the 17ft

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:26 PM
Collison
DJ
Rush
Hans
Solo

Start the 2nd. WTF?

TheDon
10-09-2010, 08:27 PM
I don't think it is asking too much to keepn our opponents below 50% in fg% is it ?

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:29 PM
Collison
DJ
Rush
Hans
Solo

Start the 2nd. WTF?

thats wat i said Djones didnt even play last game was he hurt?

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:30 PM
All I can imagine is that Obie is trying out different situational lineups.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:30 PM
Solo shooting it every chance he gets!

TheDon
10-09-2010, 08:32 PM
This lineup blows let us never speak of it again

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:32 PM
i want to see PG24 and magnum & lance

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:36 PM
WTF JOB change the lineup

TheDon
10-09-2010, 08:36 PM
Solomon jones on yao = LOL

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:36 PM
Solo Jones=not impressive.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:39 PM
Well this lineup has just gotten the snot kicked out of it.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 08:39 PM
To be fair it's not solomon jones' fault our coach is an idiot

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:40 PM
Tyler has alot of straight line speed, I know that is out of left field but just something that I noticed... he will never get beat on D because he didn't get back in time...

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:40 PM
Yeah, this line-up is a joke!

spazzxb
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
finding out what lineups don't work is what preseason is for. Of course who on our team, besides Roy, has a chance at guarding Yao.

Noodle
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
To be fair it's not solomon jones' fault our coach is an idiot

It's sabotage.

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
didnt realize the blue & gold were on this evening.. luckily i caught it in time to catch the 2nd half. odd lineup to start, very pleased to see hansbro is out there and able to play, he will help the PF position significantly.. and we will know if he is the answer at the position or if we need to continue the search next offseason.. or sooner even.

looking forward to seeing PG and the other rookies this half as well!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
Yao Ming just ate Solo alive, bones and all.

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:42 PM
I think I'm gonna recant my prediction for this team for the year. They got me again, I thought this year was gonna be different. Nope. No defense, lost offense, JOB ball.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:43 PM
Both of our Jones's are still the same inept players they always were.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 08:43 PM
Jimmy, haven't you seen enough of this lineup to know it sucks..

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 08:44 PM
dc, jones, rush, hans, solo: pretty terrible lineup. maybe they want to see what solo has to offer before we cut him loose.

and he drains a 10 footer... damn its nice to see DC in a blue & gold jersey!!!

Magic P
10-09-2010, 08:44 PM
Yao Ming just ate Solo alive, bones and all.

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/karatekid-mr-miyagi-chopsti.jpg

Noodle
10-09-2010, 08:46 PM
I think we need to cut/buyout D. Jones and Posey.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:46 PM
New lineup

Price
Dun
Posey
Granger
Hibbert

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:47 PM
Wow so much for the new technical foul calling.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:48 PM
i want to see AJ & DC play at the same time

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:48 PM
Roy is killing me here! He is 7'2 but we have to bounce pass to him because a strong wind will make him bend over, so if we throw it high it will go past him.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:48 PM
I think we need to cut/buyout D. Jones and Posey.

yes and solo

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:49 PM
We're getting ROFL-stomped.

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Roy may not be the worst starting center in the league, but he certainly is the weakest.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 08:49 PM
I am all for trying different combinations and seeing what works but anybody who watches the pacers play knew that lineup to start the second half was absolute garbage without having to see them play.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:49 PM
We are just getting out played and these line-ups, preseason or not aren't working.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:50 PM
Wow Clyde just said the most apt assessment of Hibbert.
"For a guy who is 7-2 you'd think he just dunk those"

Thanks Clyde! Your okay in my book.

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 08:50 PM
Jimmy, haven't you seen enough of this lineup to know it sucks..

ive seen enough of jimmy to know he sucks! i like were feeding hibbs the ball.. bout darn time. damn this offenseive system looks awful. i know its preseason but wtf!

miss carlisle.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:51 PM
Same thing as last night, third qtr beat down!

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:51 PM
Oh gawd, Peck and I have to sit through 41 games of this?!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:52 PM
It's just preseason, it's just preseason, it's just preseason...

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:53 PM
90 points at the end of the 3rd. Wow. :suicide: Colts have a bad season going, Pacers are like "oh yeah," well we'll show you a bad season.

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:54 PM
Oh gawd, Peck and I have to sit through 41 games of this?!

I'm sorry, I hope it gets better, otherwise this is going to be another long long season.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:54 PM
It's just preseason, it's just preseason, it's just preseason...

You mean in the regular season our 7-2 center won't be trying reverse layups and getting blocked by guards who are only 6ft tall?

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:54 PM
Please let me know when, Paul, Lance, or Rolle gets in the game right now they are about the only ones that I am interested in see... sorry

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:55 PM
WHY IS POSEY STILL N THE GAME!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:55 PM
Please let me know when, Paul, Lance, or Rolle gets in the game right now they are about the only ones that I am interested in see... sorry

me 2 bro

odeez
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
Bout time Hibbs!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
They are ripping on Roy HARD :(

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
this is awful.. thank god its only preseason i guess.

nice pass posey?? these guys get paid millions to play like this.. ive seen better at a ymca league?!?!

nice dunk hibbs!

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
It's just preseason, it's just preseason, it's just preseason...

It's just preseason... but they are terrible so far. The pieces might be there to find a decent lineup, but who here really thinks our coach is going to do that?

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
Wow the announcers are really clowning on Roy now.

Really?
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
lol Lance is so slow, good thing he is quick or he would have a horrible time getting his shot off..

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 08:58 PM
Roy says I'm 7'2 and I just remembered it.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 08:59 PM
Roy says I'm 7'2 and I just remembered it.

i muted the tv after they said that

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:01 PM
Roy drives me crazy. He needs another summer with Bill, or better yet, a summer with Dale Davis.

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:02 PM
i muted the tv after they said that

Why? Someone needed to say it.

odeez
10-09-2010, 09:03 PM
DG has been really careless with the ball tonight!?!

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:03 PM
Scolo with the baseline jumper, 5 pacers standing around waiting for the Rebound. No one blocks out, Scolo beats all 5 Pacers to the ball to get his own rebound...

WTF

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:03 PM
Roy drives me crazy. He needs another summer with Bill, or better yet, a summer with Dale Davis.

He'd never be back after a summer with Dale.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:04 PM
lmao lance just got embarassed

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Has any Pacer blocked out anyone for a rebound in the whole game yet?

tora tora
10-09-2010, 09:05 PM
Well after finally being able to watch these guys play together I think it's safe to say they won't win more than 30 games.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:05 PM
5 turnovers for Granger...

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:05 PM
So much for Murphy being the reason for the poor defense. Hell Brandon Rush could score on us.

vnzla81
10-09-2010, 09:05 PM
Roy says I'm 7'2 and I just remembered it.

I am not watching the game but I'm going to ask the question again, the Roy losing weight is helping him or making him worse?

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:05 PM
this is sad why is posey still in why does JOB have job

Really?
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
DG has been really careless with the ball tonight!?!

So has Roy, so has DJ, So Has Posey... I guess this is one of the things that you get with this motion offense with all these passes

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
Making scola look like a basketball god is embarassing. We should start advertising career night come see opposing players put up career numbers! Career night with your indiana pacers

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
Has any Pacer blocked out anyone for a rebound in the whole game yet?

we won the reb. battle first half 23 -13 lol

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
This is an embarrassment, I mean its okay in preseason when you scrubs get jacked by starters, but when your starters get jacked by the other teams bench....

odeez
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
Based on what we have seen so far this is going to be another horrible season, I haven't seen anything to be hopeful for... I know it's preseason, but this is just bad basketball! Shouldn't there have been some adjustments made since the last two games. Yuck!

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
what is the point in having LS in the lineup with the starters..?? these lineups JOB is implementing are mindboggling.

hibbs needs some muscle. him and hansbro should partner up in the gym. wow.. at this point i would rather see slick leonard coaching this team. wheres PG?

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:07 PM
lmao lance just got embarassed

It's not his fault..

WTF is up with Danny..

Posey is like..depression on the court. He just sucks the energy out of the team.

I think Roy has to adjust to his new body. Personally.

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:08 PM
I am not watching the game but I'm going to ask the question again, the Roy losing weight is helping him or making him worse?

It might be partially that, but it's also the lack of a killer instinct. He is a big dude trying to play a finesse game. He needs to learn to play a power game.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:08 PM
we won the reb. battle first half 23 -13 lol

Yep, and it was the only reason the game was close because of how terrible our shooting has been.

Roy is 7/18. That's unacceptable for a big man.

odeez
10-09-2010, 09:08 PM
5 turnovers for Granger...

Wow, sad, no excuse for DG to be turning it over like that!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:08 PM
did they say Ish. Smith looks like a young jason kidd or am i hearing things?

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:09 PM
Yep, and it was the only reason the game was close because of how terrible our shooting has been.

Roy is 7/18. That's unacceptable for a big man.

7/18 ????

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:09 PM
I am not watching the game but I'm going to ask the question again, the Roy losing weight is helping him or making him worse?

Imagine Marcus Camby, but with no leaping ability or natural shot blocking instincts. This is the new Roy Hibbert.

Really?
10-09-2010, 09:09 PM
WOW... time to turn off the tv....

Psyren
10-09-2010, 09:09 PM
This is going to be the most miserable season in years if the defense keeps playing like this.

Even the shots Houston is missing are WIDE open. No one on our team is playing any form of defense.

There's more than one person I'd like to see gone off this team. That's for sure.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:09 PM
We can pin this on JOB, but personally not a single person on the court of the Pacers has looked like they gave a damn this entire second half. They all look like they were just going through the motions.

odeez
10-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Another turnover, who wants to win, someone step up and say enough already, preseason or not!

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:10 PM
we won the reb. battle first half 23 -13 lol

I just started watching in the late 3rd. From what I have seen it is just pitiful, not just in rebounding, but in every facet of the game.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Chase buddinger = next michael jordan apparently...that's right chase...freaking...buddinger

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:10 PM
7/18 ????

7/19 now. Y'all thought JO put up some bad shooting nights...

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:11 PM
Chase Budinger's dunk may be a microcosm or the upcoming season.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:11 PM
This is going to be the most miserable season in years if the defense keeps playing like this.

Even the shots Houston is missing are WIDE open. No one on our team is playing any form of defense.

There's more than one person I'd like to see gone off this team. That's for sure.

They quit on defense, but the offense was even worse before they gave up. No one was making good decisions.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 09:11 PM
Wow we just got called the Washington Generals.

PaceBalls
10-09-2010, 09:12 PM
god just throw in the towel.

Rockets announcer "Are we watching the Globetrotters?" "The Pacers kinda look like the Washington Generals"

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:12 PM
am i watching a video game??

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 09:12 PM
ok, the one positive ive seen so far is we are working it inside to hibbs. jesus.. does anyone know how to rebound or play D on this team?

im going to keep the glass half full and presume its simply due to preseason and hope this is not a microcosm of things to come.

odeez
10-09-2010, 09:12 PM
Clyde is jus clowning us over and over, can't blame him the way we've played.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:13 PM
god just throw in the towel.

Rockets announcer "Are we watching the Globetrotters?" "The Pacers kinda look like the Washington Generals"

ya i have to agree with him for once we look horrible

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:13 PM
I might just not watch another game during the preseason...

Really?
10-09-2010, 09:13 PM
Hummmm... offense just doesnt look the same when DC isn't in there... idk... and I wouldn't blame this on JOB, I mean what better time to see how people coming of the bench will play together than the preseason

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:13 PM
Wow, those with small children turn the TV off now!!!! This could keep them up for nights on end. I fully expect to wake up in a cold sweat screaming "ALLEY OOOOPPPP!!!!!!"

kester99
10-09-2010, 09:13 PM
Lots of folks seem to only want to see the young guys on the floor. Well, there they are, getting that development time.

Cherokee
10-09-2010, 09:15 PM
Is "Red Rising" referring the blood-letting on the court?

LG33
10-09-2010, 09:16 PM
At what point, if any, do we begin to worry about pre-season losses?

InYaFace
10-09-2010, 09:16 PM
I can tell you that...preseason is preseason...but sadly the Pacers are the Pacers, so they will play the same way in the regular season...wow, this is so emberassing...they can learn from Houston how to move the ball, play D and DUNK this freaking ball!!! Hey and who the hell is this Smith guy??? He looks pretty comfortable with the Rockets, gotta give him credit!

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:16 PM
I'm trying to avoid any worrying until the regular season. That would seem to be the "rational" thing to do, but if I was going to start worrying about preseason losses, it would probably be after this game.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:17 PM
7/19 now. Y'all thought JO put up some bad shooting nights...

ya he looks like JO in the post goes down there and just shoots no matter wat 2nite

Deadshot
10-09-2010, 09:17 PM
With Roy being pushed around so easily, we can see the value of having a physical PF to play beside him. This could be Josh (as worked so well last night) or Tyler. I don't know if I would put Jeff in this spot anymore but having one of these 2 guys there beside him is a must.

Really?
10-09-2010, 09:17 PM
At what point, if any, do we begin to worry about pre-season losses?

When we play our starting line up for most of the game

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:17 PM
We can pin this on JOB, but personally not a single person on the court of the Pacers has looked like they gave a damn this entire second half. They all look like they were just going through the motions.

He sent a lineup out there of DC, DJones, Rush, Granger, Solo...and they got their butts handed to them (shocking) Set the tone...(not that it excuses the turnovers..)

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:18 PM
Roy just steped out of bounds another TO

Diamond Dave
10-09-2010, 09:18 PM
At what point, if any, do we begin to worry about pre-season losses?

Never. Its not a big deal if your starters come in, play winning bball then go to the bench. Expirement time after that gets you a loss, no big deal.

However you need to start worrying right now that we havent seen any winning caliber ball. This looks disasterous.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:18 PM
It is preseason, and it is a back to back, but at some point people should have some priide and step up and not allow us to get beat this bad this gonna be a 30+ loss. Dare I watch us play against the hornets? If things continue I give it 10 games before the team completely tunes out the coach if they haven't already.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:19 PM
Hummmm... offense just doesnt look the same when DC isn't in there... idk... and I wouldn't blame this on JOB, I mean what better time to see how people coming of the bench will play together than the preseason

It doesn't look the same without Josh. The offense was pretty pathetic the entire game, with the exception of the Price, Dun, Posey, Foster, Granger lineup..which still wasn't efficient but they rebounded well.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:19 PM
He sent a lineup out there of DC, DJones, Rush, Granger, Solo...and they got their butts handed to them (shocking) Set the tone...(not that it excuses the turnovers..)

No the lineup that got their butts handed to them to start the third was

DC
DJones
Rush
Hans
Solo

No Granger, not that it would have mattered the way he's played.

graphic-er
10-09-2010, 09:19 PM
Pick and Roll owns the Pacers, nobody on our team knows how to defend it.

LG33
10-09-2010, 09:20 PM
At least we won the rebounding battle this time!

Really?
10-09-2010, 09:20 PM
Ishmal Smith is better than Randy Foye at the Point.... Foye better watch out for his back-up spot

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:20 PM
"quick as a cat cool as a cuecumber" lol

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Ishmal Smith is better than Randy Foye at the Point.... Foye better watch out for his back-up spot

kyle lowry u mean right

D-BONE
10-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Glad I did not get this telecast.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:21 PM
No the lineup that got their butts handed to them to start the third was

DC
DJones
Rush
Hans
Solo

No Granger, not that it would have mattered the way he's played.

Okay..that's what I thought but I was sure JOB had to play Danny
..just ew..

I wish he'd experiment with lineups that make sense.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Best lineup tonight IMO was the one that started the game.

DC
Rush
Danny
Hans
Hibbert

That's about the only positive thing I can say.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:22 PM
Pacers basketbaall, where 34 point losses agaist the rockets jv squad happens.

Cherokee
10-09-2010, 09:23 PM
Instead of post-game threads, we might want to call them autopsies.

Psyren
10-09-2010, 09:23 PM
I can tell you that...preseason is preseason...but sadly the Pacers are the Pacers, so they will play the same way in the regular season...wow, this is so emberassing...they can learn from Houston how to move the ball, play D and DUNK this freaking ball!!! Hey and who the hell is this Smith guy??? He looks pretty comfortable with the Rockets, gotta give him credit!
Couldn't agree more.

If this was any other team, I'd say "it's ok, it's just the preseason".

But with the Pacers, we will play the exact same way, for 82 regular season games.

Oh lord, please help us...:(

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 09:24 PM
memo to Bird:

do not trade the first round pick unless its lottery protected. to borrow a line from jim mora..

playoffs? plaoffs?? lol

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:25 PM
Couldn't agree more.

If this was any other team, I'd say "it's ok, it's just the preseason".

But with the Pacers, we will play the exact same way, for 82 regular season games.

Oh lord, please help us...:(

Huh? If anything I'd say the Pacers are the most likely team in the NBA to play a completely different way one night than they are the next.

The 5 game win streak and the sudden good basketball played at the end of last season are proof of that.

PacersPride
10-09-2010, 09:26 PM
memo to Bird:

do not trade the first round pick unless its lottery protected. to borrow a line from jim mora..

playoffs? plaoffs?? lol

revised to add to the memo:

fire JOB!

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:27 PM
Instead of post-game threads, we might want to call them autopsies.

ya we had 0 engery out there 2nite. i want the jones brothers and posey gone

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:28 PM
revised to add to the memo:

fire JOB!

yes he preches D LOL that would be like me preching grammer. LOL

Trophy
10-09-2010, 09:28 PM
I just don't think we cared to play hard tonight and the reason is because it's preseason.

Our defense isn't that great, but it's usually not this bad.

We should just put this crappy loss and crappy game behind because it's preseason and wait and hope for a successful regular season.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Best lineup tonight IMO was the one that started the game.

DC
Rush
Danny
Hans
Hibbert

That's about the only positive thing I can say.

They got beat.

The only lineup to not get beat was
Price
Dun
George
Posey
Foster

No lineup looked good offensively or on defense, but the one that didn't get beat at least had some effort too it. (Well, and it helped that AJ and Dun were the only Pacers to have a remotely decent offensive game. )

Who would have guessed, but I think we really need Josh. Josh brings some toughness defensively (and athleticism) He plays well with Hibbert offensively (I think that hurt Hibbert tonight) He brings a lot of energy and hustle (and ball movement) too.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:31 PM
scola made us look dumb he was getting to every loose ball

Psyren
10-09-2010, 09:31 PM
Huh? If anything I'd say the Pacers are the most likely team in the NBA to play a completely different way one night than they are the next.

The 5 game win streak and the sudden good basketball played at the end of last season are proof of that.
Let me re-phrase.

We'll play completely different, but the results will be the same.

Wide open shots on every possession for the opposing offense.

Stagnant offense where everyone wants to play 1 on 1.

Players that look like they couldn't care less.

TheDon
10-09-2010, 09:32 PM
I think they should have a fan poll for starting lineups as well as the rotation players its pretty clear job doesn't know what works and what doesn't so what could it hurt?

kester99
10-09-2010, 09:33 PM
The starting line-up of Hibbert, Hans, Granger, Rush and Collison started out fine. The second unit that replaced them did just as well...that was Dun, Jeff, AJ, Posey and George.

It's when we started mixing and matching line-ups that we fell apart. And we did that for a couple of understandable reasons...because Josh wasn't there, because they limited Tyler's and Jeff's minutes on this back-to-back game, because that made it the right time to give Solomon his shot, and to give D. Jones his shot. There were things going on there that had nothing to do with winning the game.

I think if we'd stuck with a rotation of that first ten, the results would have been quite a bit different. Not saying we'd have won, but it wouldn't have been a blow-out. I think.

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:34 PM
I think they should have a fan poll for starting lineups as well as the rotation players its pretty clear job doesn't know what works and what doesn't so what could it hurt?

and we should also do a poll on who we want to be the coach. I vote Mike Brown or Sam Mitchell.

MillerTime
10-09-2010, 09:35 PM
The game was ugly, but its preseason. Everyone is getting extended minutes. If this were a regular season game, Solo wouldnt be getting all those minutes.

If we win or lose, its not making a difference. Lets just let our young guys get out there and get some experience.

Trader Joe
10-09-2010, 09:36 PM
They got beat.

The only lineup to not get beat was
Price
Dun
George
Posey
Foster

No lineup looked good offensively or on defense, but the one that didn't get beat at least had some effort too it. (Well, and it helped that AJ and Dun were the only Pacers to have a remotely decent offensive game. )

Who would have guessed, but I think we really need Josh. Josh brings some toughness defensively (and athleticism) He plays well with Hibbert offensively (I think that hurt Hibbert tonight) He brings a lot of energy and hustle (and ball movement) too.

They played the Rockets starters pretty close. Let's be honest that lineup you listed would never cut it in an actual game.

90'sNBARocked
10-09-2010, 09:37 PM
this is borderline severe depression

What does Bird think is going to happen?

Jim O Brien : The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result.

Please for the love of God fire Jim now!!!!!

not tomorrow , not at the break

Today

Looking forward to the same BS again and another 30 win season

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:40 PM
this is borderline severe depression

What does Bird think is going to happen?

Jim O Brien : The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result.

Please for the love of God fire Jim now!!!!!

not tomorrow , not at the break

Today

Looking forward to the same BS again and another 30 win season

maybe we will get perry jones in the draft that is are only hope if we keep this up.

that quote is wat my golf coach tells me all the time and it is so true.

Sookie
10-09-2010, 09:41 PM
They played the Rockets starters pretty close. Let's be honest that lineup you listed would never cut it in an actual game.

No, I'd like to not see it again (although I think Dun, AJ, and Hans would be a good second unit. Along with Foster to back up Roy. )

But they fought and took the lead from the Rockets (whereas the starters came back in and lost it again) So for..tonight..they were the best lineup. Just..it's not necessary to let them try it again. ;)

As I said, I think our offense really missed Josh.

And all that said, this isn't a big deal. It's preseason. Yes, they got slaughtered, but it was a back to back, we're missing a starter, and there's an unfamiliarity with this team.

And not to mention..yes, this is a talanted team. But it's also a young team. Which is going to equal inconsitency. Personally, I think Roy wasn't very confident this game, and it showed. Danny was off in la la land. Collison was passive, and I think Aaron Brooks shook him up a bit. But there are going to be some games where they are all playing well together, too.

InYaFace
10-09-2010, 09:42 PM
In my opinion, there are no excuses for that game...gotta give more effort even when it's preseason...damn even I am able to shoot some stupid shots, so I gotta call the Pacers if they need me...I am cheaper for sure!
But I know, the mix up changed the game drastically...so there is this thing called hope, what keeps my head up in such moments...
Man I hope LB is playing some NBA2k11, cause when you try to trade Solo and TJ it shows you a possible trade for James Thompson!

I don't even wanna think about, what happens when the injuries come back...
Pacers Basketball...scarier then a horror movie!

vnzla81
10-09-2010, 09:42 PM
this is borderline severe depression

What does Bird think is going to happen?

Jim O Brien : The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result.

Please for the love of God fire Jim now!!!!!

not tomorrow , not at the break

Today

Looking forward to the same BS again and another 30 win season

30 wins? haha

90'sNBARocked
10-09-2010, 09:43 PM
maybe we will get perry jones in the draft that is are only hope if we keep this up.

that quote is wat my golf coach tells me all the time and it is so true.

im sick of "wait till next year"

This piece of garbage masking as a coach simply zaps any enthusiasm you once had

This is gonna be a long fkin season

pacer4ever
10-09-2010, 09:45 PM
In my opinion, there are no excuses for that game...gotta give more effort even when it's preseason...damn even I am able to shoot some stupid shots, so I gotta call the Pacers if they need me...I am cheaper for sure!
But I know, the mix up changed the game drastically...so there is this thing called hope, what keeps my head up in such moments...
Man I hope LB is playing some NBA2k11, cause when you try to trade Solo and TJ it shows you a possible trade for James Thompson!

I don't even wanna think about, what happens when the injuries come back...
Pacers Basketball...scarier then a horror movie!

yes and if posey and the veterns wont give effort bench them for lance allred and the rookies. You cant just keep them out there playing with no effort. JOB should of done that to show that he was serious when he said he'll focus on D and effort.

BringJackBack
10-09-2010, 09:46 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... Let's get back to reality here. Lets stop being hyperbolic about everyones pessimism so we look like know-it-alls.

We started Brandon Rush and Tyler Hansbrough compared to Mike Dunleavy and Josh McRoberts. Thats where our offense went. When Roy posted up, nobody moved because Brandon was standing in the corner picking his nose and Tyler was waiting for a rebound. It it were Mike, he'd be moving. If it were Josh, he'd me making over the top passes and dishing for easy buckets.

Luis Scola and Yao Ming look like Gods out there because of the PnR. We have no shot blocking ability.. Oh wait, Josh isn't here.

The Jones' suck and they are playing in the second unit. Their basketball IQ is so terrible that they make Ike look like Albert Einstein. We were killing on the boards until we went small and Solomon Jones decided to come in to suck the life out of us

Preseason doesn't matter.

And last but not least Roy Hibbert had a bad FG%. Lets remember that Darryl Morey and Rick Adelman are statistical and scouting report gurus, and Yao Ming and Chuck Hayes are very good post up defenders.

And no, losing weight didn't hurt Roy Hibbert. He used to get in foul trouble, and he doesn't anymore. Wonder why?

This isn't coming from a complete homer either.