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pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 03:29 PM
Oct 06, 2010 8:05 AM EST
The Pacers currently have 17 players on their roster and will need to reduce that number by at least two before the start of the regular season.

Mike Wells of The Indianapolis Star writes that center Lance Allred, who was brought in as an extra body for training camp, will likely be cut.

Still, the Pacers will have to make a two-for-one trade in order to reach the magic number of 15 before the 2010-11 season begins.

They are open to trading one of their wing players because they have an excess of talent at the position.

Via Mike Wells/Indianapolis Star
Indiana Pacers



Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69436/20101006/pacers_open_to_trading_wing_player/#ixzz11bnb038c



front page on real gm lol

Sookie
10-06-2010, 03:31 PM
Ford and Rush? Probably something Charlotte would be interested in. I'd like to keep Brandon though. :(

jhondog28
10-06-2010, 03:33 PM
To be honest I think this has D Jones written all over it. Yes he is a defender but does he fit with JOBsoffensive style?

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 03:36 PM
Ford and Rush? Probably something Charlotte would be interested in. I'd like to keep Brandon though. :(

ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for Erik damier's contract but not any1 on thier current roster

ChristianDudley
10-06-2010, 03:39 PM
I tell you, O'Brien REALLY needs to go right now. We don't need him giving minutes to T.J., we don't need him messing with Collison, and we don't need him playing Dahntay at PF (or at least defending at the 4). Extending O'Brien was HORRIBLE and it is even more evident as the days go by. He should have been gone by the end of this past season at the very latest. Now when we have a nice young group of players, O'Brien is here to mess it all up!

I say we just trade T.J. and Solo together if possible. If not T.J., then I wouldn't mind trading Posey because he is getting up there in age. But then again, it all might just come down on releasing Solo and buying his contract out.

31andonly
10-06-2010, 03:40 PM
ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for damier's expireing but not any1 on the current roster

pardon?

MLB007
10-06-2010, 03:43 PM
Rush has looked pretty good in the limited highlights.

duke dynamite
10-06-2010, 03:43 PM
I tell you, O'Brien REALLY needs to go right now. We don't need him giving minutes to T.J., we don't need him messing with Collison, and we don't need him playing Dahntay at PF (or at least defending at the 4). Extending O'Brien was HORRIBLE and it is even more evident as the days go by. He should have been gone by the end of this past season at the very latest. Now when we have a nice young group of players, O'Brien is here to mess it all up!

I say we just trade T.J. and Solo together if possible. If not T.J., then I wouldn't mind trading Posey because he is getting up there in age. But then again, it all might just come down on releasing Solo and buying his contract out.
Please, oh please don't turn this into a Fire O'Brien thread. Please, I am begging you.

MillerTime
10-06-2010, 03:44 PM
To be honest I think this has D Jones written all over it. Yes he is a defender but does he fit with JOBsoffensive style?
I wouldnt be too worried about who fits and doesnt fit JOBs style...I dont see JOB being here past this season. His contract expires and I dont see any reason why Bird would re-sign.

ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for damier's expireing but not any1 on the current roster
I wouldnt mind Tyrus Thomas or Gerald Wallace

avoidingtheclowns
10-06-2010, 03:47 PM
To be honest I think this has D Jones written all over it. Yes he is a defender but does he fit with JOBsoffensive style?

Who exactly is just itching to trade for Dahntay Jones?


I wouldnt mind Tyrus Thomas or Gerald Wallace

Charlotte doesn't mind those guys either.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 03:47 PM
pardon?

ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for Erik damier's contract but not any1 on thier current roster

my bad was in a hurry geting back to class

duke dynamite
10-06-2010, 03:49 PM
ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for Erik damier's contract but not any1 on thier current roster

my bad was in a hurry geting back to class
How is that different from any other time you type here. I can't understand what in the hell you are talking about.

naptownmenace
10-06-2010, 03:50 PM
I wouldn't mind if they did a 2-for-1 trade to get back a backup center and a future draft pick.

That's probably the best they could do without trading Granger or Hibbert.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 03:51 PM
How is that different from any other time you type here. I can't understand what in the hell you are talking about.

lol ok im typein on my blackberry kind of hard to break the habit of not useing text form

Drewtone
10-06-2010, 04:01 PM
lol ok im typein on my blackberry kind of hard to break the habit of not useing text form

Odd, I did most of my email replies on a Blackberry while travelling, and I managed to frequently engage the use of the English language. I suppose I should've used shorthand and told my employer to 'deal with it.'

[/snide]

MillerTime
10-06-2010, 04:11 PM
How is that different from any other time you type here. I can't understand what in the hell you are talking about.


Odd, I did most of my email replies on a Blackberry while travelling, and I managed to frequently engage the use of the English language. I suppose I should've used shorthand and told my employer to 'deal with it.'

[/snide]

C'mon guys, leave the poor kid alone. Im sure writing a msg on PD and writing an email to your employer is a HUGE difference. Obviously the language you're going to use in an email to your employer is going to be different than something you post on PD

BornReady
10-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Realgm has this as their front story and there is a big picture of Dahntay too :P
When you click read story, Dahntay's avatar comes up again. Hmm...

CableKC
10-06-2010, 04:39 PM
i still think that Bird brought Inferno in as a role player for the long term......specifically beyond JO'Bs tenure given the length of his contract. The only way that I see Inferno or Posey being moved is if we take back a contract that lasts beyond this season. Otherwise, I think that he is in Bird's long term plans.

Outside of waiving Solo, if we were to do a "2fer1" deal......my guess is that the most likely candidate would be Dunleavy ( along with Solo ). Between now and the regular season.....if it looks like he's returned to form and is healthy, his trade value will go up.

Brad8888
10-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Yes, probably, but for who? I would have done it for Erick Dampier's contract, but not anyone on their current roster.

My bad. I was in a hurry getting back to class.

Fixed and translated.

sportfireman
10-06-2010, 04:58 PM
Realgm has this as their front story and there is a big picture of Dahntay too :P
When you click read story, Dahntay's avatar comes up again. Hmm...

Yeah I noticed that myself............:confused:

Trader Joe
10-06-2010, 04:59 PM
ya probly but 4 who i would have done it for Erik damier's contract but not any1 on thier current roster

my bad was in a hurry geting back to class

Translation:

Dear sirs,

I am inclined to agree, but who would you make this deal for? I would have been interested in Erik Dampier's expiring contract, but I am not enthralled by anyone on their current roster.

My apologies, I was in a rush getting back to my studies.

McKeyFan
10-06-2010, 05:06 PM
Wut we hav here is a failre to comuncte.





P.S. He's actually doing better and he has a better attitude. I'm rooting for him.

Will Galen
10-06-2010, 05:17 PM
He aggravates me too. I give him a break because he's only seventeen, and he has a goos attitude.

jhondog28
10-06-2010, 05:21 PM
So far posts regarding topic = 10
So far posts regarding a poster's use of the English language = 10

Its a tight race

MLB007
10-06-2010, 05:33 PM
So far posts regarding topic = 10
So far posts regarding a poster's use of the English language = 10

Its a tight race

And always will be..... :D

90'sNBARocked
10-06-2010, 05:54 PM
How is that different from any other time you type here. I can't understand what in the hell you are talking about.

17 years old

He is part of the "twitter generation"

Thats how they role :)

Eleazar
10-06-2010, 05:55 PM
i still think that Bird brought Inferno in as a role player for the long term......specifically beyond JO'Bs tenure given the length of his contract. The only way that I see Inferno or Posey being moved is if we take back a contract that lasts beyond this season. Otherwise, I think that he is in Bird's long term plans.

Outside of waiving Solo, if we were to do a "2fer1" deal......my guess is that the most likely candidate would be Dunleavy ( along with Solo ). Between now and the regular season.....if it looks like he's returned to form and is healthy, his trade value will go up.

It might be true that Jones was originally brought in to be a long term role player, but it isn't like he was given a $5-7 million contract. He was given a $2.5-2.9 million which is the kind of contract you give a person that you aren't confident in but are willing to take a small chance. Personally I think Jones proved he was too one dimensional and combining that with his relatively small contract Bird will most likely be more than willing to admit the mistake and trade him.

90'sNBARocked
10-06-2010, 05:55 PM
Odd, I did most of my email replies on a Blackberry while travelling, and I managed to frequently engage the use of the English language. I suppose I should've used shorthand and told my employer to 'deal with it.'

[/snide]

17 vs 41

come on guys ease up :)

CT Pacer
10-06-2010, 05:55 PM
17 years old

He is part of the "twitter generation"

Thats how they role :)

Maybe he enjoys the attention.... Hmmmm

BornReady
10-06-2010, 05:57 PM
Oh come on guys not all 17 year olds type like that

edit: or roll like that, for that matter

ZepZach
10-06-2010, 06:12 PM
The fact that its on the front page of RealGM means that this rumor actually has some merit, correct? More than just speculation.

BRushWithDeath
10-06-2010, 06:15 PM
The fact that its on the front page of RealGM means that this rumor actually has some merit, correct? More than just speculation.

No it does not.

ZepZach
10-06-2010, 06:17 PM
Haha. ok, simple enough.

Pacers#1Fan
10-06-2010, 06:21 PM
Don't be so catty. If you don't like the way he posts put him on ignore. You wouldn't be the first to do so.

xBulletproof
10-06-2010, 06:26 PM
This getting on him (pacers4ever) for his English is getting rather tired at this point.

Hicks, and a couple of others (including me) made a sincere effort once. He's done better at times since then, yet he also made it clear he won't be perfect. Get over it or ignore him. Hell, I'm getting annoyed at every time he posts someone does it. You're beating a dead ****ing horse to oblivion. At this rate posts complaining about his English will surpass "Fire OB" posts soon. Give it a damn rest.

BringJackBack
10-06-2010, 06:30 PM
All this is is some dude copied and pasted a portion of the Wells article we all read earlier today.

I bet Wells just asked a PR guy and he told him that a sg would be the first to go, of course after TJ.

vapacersfan
10-06-2010, 06:32 PM
This getting on him (pacers4ever) for his English is getting rather tired at this point.

Hicks, and a couple of others (including me) made a sincere effort once. He's done better at times since then, yet he also made it clear he won't be perfect. Get over it or ignore him. Hell, I'm getting annoyed at every time he posts someone does it. You're beating a dead ****ing horse to oblivion. At this rate posts complaining about his English will surpass "Fire OB" posts soon. Give it a damn rest.

Or you could just ingore those complaining about him....

Me, I am used to short-hand, I just really hate it. I catch myself using it at times, but I also feel there is a time and place for everything. That is just me though.

I will offer this service. I will translate all of any posters posts for the low fee of $4.99 a month. Just PM me and I will hook you up. :p

Trophy
10-06-2010, 06:40 PM
Maybe package the two Jones boys in a deal and get a PF in return or trade Brandon and Solo for a PF.

We'll need to take on another large contract if we try and move TJ + Solo and Brandon or Dahntay.

xBulletproof
10-06-2010, 06:50 PM
Or you could just ingore those complaining about him....

How about all of the people who have an issue with his English just ignore him since they don't like what what he says on every subject, and in every single post. As opposed to me ignoring a lot of people over a single subject. Then half of the topics wouldn't be cluttered with this repetitive mess.

At first he got defensive and complained about grown men having nothing better to do than to pick on him for his English when Hicks and others were initially just trying to help him. At this point however it's getting to the point of childish "picking on" and "mocking". It's rather sad how rude people can be behind a monitor. None of you would act like this to his face over anything in person. He could very well have been more correct in his initial reaction than I thought. Rather disappointing.

DGPR
10-06-2010, 07:09 PM
Please, oh please don't turn this into a Fire O'Brien thread. Please, I am begging you.


We should just fire O'Brien



:devil:

DGPR
10-06-2010, 07:13 PM
I get on my sister all the time for typing in shorthand too. She's 17 and I'm 24 and I still don't really understand it.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.........

Suaveness
10-06-2010, 07:14 PM
So, what was this thread about?

Pacers4Life
10-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Am i at 200 posts yet?

THREAD IS DEAD. ARTICLE IS TOTALLY WORTHLESS. AS WAS ALL MY TIME READING THROUGH IT. FOOL ME ONCE... SHAME ON YOU.

Game starts in like 35 mins though!

Pacers4Life
10-06-2010, 07:28 PM
Oh i did have a point... his name is veeery similar to mine. And i came here when i was 16... He's a goob... but he's one of us. Its all good

McKeyFan
10-06-2010, 07:32 PM
Thats how they role :)

You misspelled that.

It's rol.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 07:35 PM
17 years old

He is part of the "twitter generation"

Thats how they role :)

ya baby watch when i am 40 i wont be able to read the 17 year olds.

vapacersfan
10-06-2010, 07:36 PM
I apologize for de-railing the thread and not taking things to PM sooner<O:p</O:p
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Cheers,<O:p</O:p
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daschysta
10-06-2010, 07:36 PM
You misspelled that.

It's rol.

It's roll.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 07:37 PM
Fixed and translated.

the sad thing is i have a 90% in english lol

vapacersfan
10-06-2010, 07:38 PM
I get on my sister all the time for typing in shorthand too. She's 17 and I'm 24 and I still don't really understand it.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.........

The story about getting a resume written in crayon last week is true. We also got one written in "chat speak". The person had a college degress from a pretty respected college. Scary....very scary

Frostwolf
10-06-2010, 07:43 PM
It's roll.

it's actually magnum.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 07:51 PM
The story about getting a resume written in crayon last week is true. We also got one written in "chat speak". The person had a college degress from a pretty respected college. Scary....very scary

you have to understand just in the last 5 years people speak differently. like the guy was saying if you are under 20 it is very different then 5 yrs ago.

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 07:51 PM
it's actually magnum.

love that name

vapacersfan
10-06-2010, 07:57 PM
you have to understand just in the last 5 years people speak differently. like the guy was saying if you are under 20 it is very different then 5 yrs ago.

I do not want to de-rail this thread anymore, but I promise if anyone of any age submits a resume in crayon or not using full words people are going to look at it and laugh.

That said, your still in school (I assume high school). Enjoy it while you can! cause lord knows it flys by

daschysta
10-06-2010, 07:58 PM
The way people talk in the last 5 years IS a problem. Even if you learn the proper way to write and speak formally in English class, it is all for null if the theory isn't reinforced in practice...

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 07:59 PM
I do not want to de-rail this thread anymore, but I promise if anyone of any age submits a resume in crayon or not using full words people are going to look at it and laugh.

That said, your still in school (I assume high school). Enjoy it while you can! cause lord knows it flys by

yess im sad im a senior i dont want it to end

pacer4ever
10-06-2010, 08:01 PM
The way people talk in the last 5 years IS a problem. Even if you learn the proper way to write and speak formally in English class, it is all for null if the theory isn't reinforced in practice...

i know i forget everything from middle school about grammer.

Graham Mernatsi
10-06-2010, 08:49 PM
He aggravates me too. I give him a break because he's only seventeen, and he has a goos attitude.

:arrgh:


Thats how they role :)

:arrgh:

People in glass houses should dress in the basement.

Graham Mernatsi
10-06-2010, 08:52 PM
And for the record, the kid gets a pass from me. Some people are just genetically incapable of using punctuation and capital letters.

It's kinda like how Peck is genetically incapable of using the word "dominant."

:arrgh:

1984
10-06-2010, 10:49 PM
Time will tell.

Really?
10-06-2010, 10:57 PM
Looking like the minority again, but at first I wanted to keep Rush, but after watching tape of him in the scrimmages he just hasn't shown me enough, I think people forget that he has had two full seasons in the NBA already not to mention that he went all 4 yrs at KS I believe and he is still playing below a lot of peoples expectations.

At this point I really wouldn't mind if we traded him... officially getting of the Brush has tons of potential we just have to wait train, my ticket has officially expired....

Hopefully he taps into his potential and stays with the team but as of now I just can't see it anymore.

1984
10-06-2010, 11:05 PM
i know i forget everything from middle school about grammer.

Your second point is a great one. Within our means, who would the Pacers want on the Bobcats roster? Dampier. He is desirable simply because we can void the contract without penalty. I would add Diaw to the list. Diaw has one season left on his current contract. He also has a defensive skill set that is to be desired. Though he may be a rich man's James Posey (that is not to say that Posey's contract is 'cheap').

Even though I find myself wanting to avoid the issue, I have to add my two cents. I'm twenty-five years old, and I have had nearly seven complete years in the "adult world" now. What I can tell you about my experience is this: "We don't devote enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks."

Cheers.

BornReady
10-07-2010, 01:47 AM
So, what was this thread about?

This thread is about pacer4ever's grammar, as is any other thread he posts in.

Kemo
10-07-2010, 02:18 AM
This getting on him (pacers4ever) for his English is getting rather tired at this point.

Hicks, and a couple of others (including me) made a sincere effort once. He's done better at times since then, yet he also made it clear he won't be perfect. Get over it or ignore him. Hell, I'm getting annoyed at every time he posts someone does it. You're beating a dead ****ing horse to oblivion. At this rate posts complaining about his English will surpass "Fire OB" posts soon. Give it a damn rest.

+1

ya know I'd hate to be the guy who actually has trouble spelling and/or is not very educated posting here for the first time..lol





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Coop
10-07-2010, 02:22 AM
This thread is about pacer4ever's grammar

...or lack thereof.

/hit&run

rexnom
10-07-2010, 02:57 AM
And for the record, the kid gets a pass from me. Some people are just genetically incapable of using punctuation and capital letters.

It's kinda like how Peck is genetically incapable of using the word "dominant."

:arrgh:
Well-played, sir. :laugh:

BillS
10-07-2010, 09:26 AM
If I didn't find his thoughts worthwhile, I wouldn't complain.

I also could deal with one of misspellings, shorthand, or lack of punctuation. All of them together make it harder to read and sometimes change the meaning. On a forum, ASSUMING someone's meaning can lead to arguments, so clarity is vital.

Deep down, I also kind of resent the idea that anyone's thoughts are so golden and immediate and deserving of quick posting that the poster is not required to do any work to make him/herself understood, whereas I am required to do all the work not just to translate but to translate correctly. That just seems rude, really.

There's a place for shorthand - one-on-one immediate communication can handle it because you can ask for clarity or laugh it off. Group written discussion is difficult to keep clear at the best of times. Good language skills aren't some class or age war against the underprivileged, they are a key to being able to communicate well. And if communication isn't the point of this, what is?

Speed
10-07-2010, 09:37 AM
Wells was on MPOS yesterday, sounded like D Jones is really who they are trying to trade, btw.

beast23
10-07-2010, 09:46 AM
And for the record, the kid gets a pass from me. Some people are just genetically incapable of using punctuation and capital letters.

It's kinda like how Peck is genetically incapable of using the word "dominant."

:arrgh:Peck would never use the word "dominant". He would much rather use the word "revolutionize"... as in "revolutionize the power forward position".
:D

Kaufman
10-07-2010, 10:16 AM
Also keep in mind that at age 17, some of this about getting attention.

I think this young man has realized that he can get away with the language he is while overtaking threads by changing them into discussions about himself. An attention seeking high schooler's dream, right?

BornReady
10-07-2010, 10:25 AM
Also keep in mind that at age 17, some of this about getting attention.

I think this young man has realized that he can get away with the language he is while overtaking threads by changing them into discussions about himself. An attention seeking high schooler's dream, right?

No. It's only an issue because we make it one.

King Phoenix
10-07-2010, 10:31 AM
Omg! I came here to read about PACERS OPEN TO TRADING A WING. Instead I got MEMBERS OPEN TO BASHING ON A TEEN'S GRAMMAR! That's sad like ninety percent of this is two sides either bashing, trying to explain, or defending his way of typing. We are all old enough and hopefully maturing enough to let things go. We're supposed to be talking about the pacers here. Let's cntinue on that path....THANK YOU!

1984
10-07-2010, 10:46 AM
I truly don't want Dahntay to be "that guy" unless we get someone of equal potential or value in return.

Trader Joe
10-07-2010, 10:54 AM
Dahntay has potential? Could have fooled me.

He has the potential to make me want to gouge my eyes out on offense I guess.

McKeyFan
10-07-2010, 10:55 AM
You know, this may be a precursor to a serious philosophical and practical battle in our culture ten or twenty years from now.

It all depends on if texting continues to be very dominant (sorry Peck) in the years to come. (For instance, voice recognition could take some steam out of it.) But if it does, then we may see a battle between what is correct grammar. I mean, we don't use Shakespearian English any more, and those guys told Chaucer to take a hike.

So who knows?

Edit: See new thread started on this topic.

vnzla81
10-07-2010, 10:57 AM
Omg! I came here to read about PACERS OPEN TO TRADING A WING. Instead I got MEMBERS OPEN TO BASHING ON A TEEN'S GRAMMAR! That's sad like ninety percent of this is two sides either bashing, trying to explain, or defending his way of typing. We are all old enough and hopefully maturing enough to let things go. We're supposed to be talking about the pacers here. Let's cntinue on that path....THANK YOU!

By the way is continue ;)

sportfireman
10-07-2010, 11:13 AM
I would love for a Mod to close this thread so a new one can be started. I want to hear about Pacers basketball, not how everyone else thinks someone else should communicate. He didn't use correct English along with 75% of Americans...... so what. You understood what he was saying. Please move off of proper English usage.

Trader Joe
10-07-2010, 11:17 AM
The longer people keep complaining about people complaining about the kid's English, the longer the issue will perpetuate itself. It's a lot like a bunch of people "shooshing" one or two other people. All you're doing is making it louder.

If you really want it to go away stop bringing it up.

MyFavMartin
10-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Posted this in another thread:

Without looking, can anyone tell me the Charlotte Bobcats PG rotation?

Once finding out what it is, even if you must look, can one tell me why they wouldn't want TJ?

Trader Joe
10-07-2010, 11:19 AM
TJ's not that good?

McKeyFan
10-07-2010, 11:21 AM
I would love for a Mod to close this thread so a new one can be started. I want to hear about Pacers basketball, not how everyone else thinks someone else should communicate. He didn't use correct English along with 75% of Americans...... so what. You understood what he was saying. Please move off of proper English usage.

By the letter of the law, I agree.

By the spirit of the law, this thread shares information from Wells that we already heard as far back as summer league. We have a bunch of threads about basketball.

This thread morphed into a legitimate discussion of how to deal with Generation Text. It deserves its own thread, but I don't mind it taking up headquarters here.

Edit: Forget it. I just started a new thread on this topic to keep it from disrupting other threads.

MyFavMartin
10-07-2010, 11:22 AM
TJ's not that good?

Yeah, someone said that but behind Augustin is Javaris Crittendon and Sherron Collins.

With Jackson and Wallace, I'd think Larry Brown would want a more veteran presence at PG than Augustin, who, yes, can hit the 3, but I'd think just from a depth perspective, they're one injury away from either of the 2 above guys running point for them. I'd think TJ would start over any of them and with a 1 year contract, it's not that much of a risk. Maybe Bird's asking for too much or maybe Jordan is asking for too much and would nick the deal at the last second if he doesn't get exactly what he wants.

MyFavMartin
10-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Yeah, someone said that but behind Augustin is Javaris Crittendon and Sherron Collins.

With Jackson and Wallace, I'd think Larry Brown would want a more veteran presence at PG than Augustin, who, yes, can hit the 3, but I'd think just from a depth perspective, they're one injury away from either of the 2 above guys running point for them. I'd think TJ would start over any of them and with a 1 year contract, it's not that much of a risk. Maybe Bird's asking for too much or maybe Jordan is asking for too much and would nick the deal at the last second if he doesn't get exactly what he wants.


My bad... I was looking at hooshype and JC isn't with the team... They've got Shaun Livingston with the team as their backup PG, who showed some promise at the end of last season.

My opinion still stands though and I would think they're a bunch of guys that Charlotte and Larry Brown would be interested in (Ford, Posey, Dahntay).

90'sNBARocked
10-07-2010, 11:44 AM
You misspelled that.

It's rol.

17 year flashback bro :)

90'sNBARocked
10-07-2010, 11:46 AM
:arrgh:



:arrgh:

People in glass houses should dress in the basement.

mine was a type-o bro ( *** not even sure "typo" is a word)

:)

And I defended him

90'sNBARocked
10-07-2010, 11:49 AM
If I didn't find his thoughts worthwhile, I wouldn't complain.

I also could deal with one of misspellings, shorthand, or lack of punctuation. All of them together make it harder to read and sometimes change the meaning. On a forum, ASSUMING someone's meaning can lead to arguments, so clarity is vital.

Deep down, I also kind of resent the idea that anyone's thoughts are so golden and immediate and deserving of quick posting that the poster is not required to do any work to make him/herself understood, whereas I am required to do all the work not just to translate but to translate correctly. That just seems rude, really.

There's a place for shorthand - one-on-one immediate communication can handle it because you can ask for clarity or laugh it off. Group written discussion is difficult to keep clear at the best of times. Good language skills aren't some class or age war against the underprivileged, they are a key to being able to communicate well. And if communication isn't the point of this, what is?

I agree with you a 110% Bill

But do you really expect a 17 year old guy to comprehend that, at this point in his life?

Anthem
10-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Deep down, I also kind of resent the idea that anyone's thoughts are so golden and immediate and deserving of quick posting that the poster is not required to do any work to make him/herself understood, whereas I am required to do all the work not just to translate but to translate correctly. That just seems rude, really.
Sure it's rude. Absolutely.

But he's hardly the only rude person here. If I spent all of my time worrying about people's rudeness, I'd never have time to discuss basketball.

Kind of like this thread.

Anthem
10-07-2010, 11:54 AM
Peck would never use the word "dominant". He would much rather use the word "revolutionize"... as in "revolutionize the power forward position".
:D
It's an ongoing not-joke because he frequently talks about certain players and how they are capable of being "a dominate force at their position."

I keep trying to explain that they can dominate other players or they can be a dominant force.

ksuttonjr76
10-07-2010, 12:31 PM
<a href="http://www.mywebpower.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.mywebpower.com/graphics/media/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif" /></a>

English class at its finest.

beast23
10-07-2010, 06:42 PM
It's an ongoing not-joke because he frequently talks about certain players and how they are capable of being "a dominate force at their position."

I keep trying to explain that they can dominate other players or they can be a dominant force.Anthem, Anthem, Anthem.

I was merely providing a little tease for a statement Peck made about 5-6 years ago about Bender. Many of us were arguing that Bender was a wasted draft pick, since after 3 years or so he still didn't understand the offense.

I believe that one of Peck's statements was that "Bender would revolutionize the power forward position".

Peck - please correct me if I am wrong. Or perhaps Scott H can jump in here as well.

Indra
10-08-2010, 08:29 AM
I'm tired of the "he's only 17" excuse. At 17 he's literally seven or eight months away from graduating on to "higher learning." Maybe I'm just spoiled, being raised with a writer and an English teacher in the house, but being able to communicate effectively is a vital part of being an adult. I'm 23, so I suppose I could be part of this "generation text," but it seems so rude and presumptuous for him assume that he has to do as little work as possible to be understood, and expects us to try and decipher his kindergartener's cipher.

Can I understand what he's saying 85% of the time? Sure.
Does it make me boiling mad that this is how dumb our "future leaders" are? Absolutely.

Idiocracy is real. It's not the ignorance that upsets me, it's the apathy.

Fin.

TooBigNdaPaint
10-08-2010, 08:53 AM
Looks like Dahntay is a goner. I bet Miami or Boston would love to have him on their roster. If we could get rid of Solo and Dahntay for an open roster spot, that'd be perfect. As we approach the trade deadline in Feb, I'm sure TJ and Dun-Dun's names will come in to play as expiring contracts. We need to go 'all in' and try and get Al Horford or someone very much like him. In fact, we need to use Hans, Dahntay, Solo, TJ, or Dun-Dun in some combination as a potential trade package to get either another All-Star caliber PF (and/or All-Star SG if Brandon continues to play too passively. Of course, if McBob plays up to his vast potential, we'll obviously look for his backup.

BKK
10-08-2010, 09:13 AM
ya baby watch when i am 40 i wont be able to read the 17 year olds.

You forgot the caps ;) :D

JK

Tom White
10-08-2010, 09:48 AM
17 years old

He is part of the "twitter generation"

Thats how they role :)

You would think modern medical research would find a cure for all those twitters people are suffering from.

Pacersalltheway10
10-08-2010, 09:53 AM
I'm tired of the "he's only 17" excuse. At 17 he's literally seven or eight months away from graduating on to "higher learning." Maybe I'm just spoiled, being raised with a writer and an English teacher in the house, but being able to communicate effectively is a vital part of being an adult. I'm 23, so I suppose I could be part of this "generation text," but it seems so rude and presumptuous for him assume that he has to do as little work as possible to be understood, and expects us to try and decipher his kindergartener's cipher.

Can I understand what he's saying 85% of the time? Sure.
Does it make me boiling mad that this is how dumb our "future leaders" are? Absolutely.

Idiocracy is real. It's not the ignorance that upsets me, it's the apathy.

Fin.

OK I put up with the rest of that post, but when you bring in " this is how dumb our future leaders are" really ticks me off. I am still a kid too. I'm 16. You do not no what my GPA or IQ is (3.9 and 112 to be exact). Also you have no right to say "dumb". You do not have a clue what Pacers4ever's grades are or how well he speaks in person. I know pleanty of other kids who are 4.0's and are going to college with high honors and they talk like this when texting. The "future leaders" aren't going to be communicating over text or internet. They will be publically speaking. To be honest, I'm surprised Pacers4ever hasn't went off on people like you on here because I know I would. Give the kid credit. He has put up with this :censored: from you guys and hasn't gone off on anybody.

Also to everybody else out there: BE QUIET AND LET'S TALK PACERS. If it is such a big problem, the moderators need to PM him and talk to him and such.

1984
10-08-2010, 09:56 AM
On the issue of grammar:

It is important. While PD is not a scholarly forum, casual grammar rules should be respected because poor grammar, in my opinion, causes one to lose some crediblity. When a user misspells the word "grammar" or uses the wrong version of "no" it does not add any validity to the argument.

On the other hand when adult attacks a teen instead of giving him or her guidance what they are communicating is, "Hey Kid, I'm better than you."

It should also be stated that the attackers are guilty of similar mistakes: the Twitter generation is non-existent. 64% of all "tweeters" are 35 or older.

You want to talk about looking stupid or uninformed, keep typing "Twitter Generation."

BornReady
10-08-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm tired of the "he's only 17" excuse. At 17 he's literally seven or eight months away from graduating on to "higher learning." Maybe I'm just spoiled, being raised with a writer and an English teacher in the house, but being able to communicate effectively is a vital part of being an adult. I'm 23, so I suppose I could be part of this "generation text," but it seems so rude and presumptuous for him assume that he has to do as little work as possible to be understood, and expects us to try and decipher his kindergartener's cipher.

Can I understand what he's saying 85% of the time? Sure.
Does it make me boiling mad that this is how dumb our "future leaders" are? Absolutely.

Idiocracy is real. It's not the ignorance that upsets me, it's the apathy.

Fin.

Yea I wasn't aware chatspeak or "generation text" constitutes "dumb" and "idiocracy."

Apathy? Really? Do the posts pertaining to his way of speaking really come off as apathetic? For the child of a writer and an english teacher, you have TERRIBLE word choice.

Indra
10-08-2010, 10:11 AM
OK I put up with the rest of that post, but when you bring in " this is how dumb our future leaders are" really ticks me off. I am still a kid too. I'm 16. You do not no what my GPA or IQ is (3.9 and 112 to be exact). Also you have no right to say "dumb". You do not have a clue what Pacers4ever's grades are or how well he speaks in person. I know pleanty of other kids who are 4.0's and are going to college with high honors and they talk like this when texting. The "future leaders" aren't going to be communicating over text or internet. They will be publically speaking. To be honest, I'm surprised Pacers4ever hasn't went off on people like you on here because I know I would. Give the kid credit. He has put up with this :censored: from you guys and hasn't gone off on anybody.

Also to everybody else out there: BE QUIET AND LET'S TALK PACERS. If it is such a big problem, the moderators need to PM him and talk to him and such. Also if anybody gets on me for using caps........ oh :devil:

Dumb was a strong choice of word, and probably not appropriate. Ignorant, apathetic, or careless are probably better suited for this. I was remarking more towards the entire generation's general disinterest in writing, proper grammar, and broadening their horizons and vocabulary through the written word. To take it a step further, I think this and younger generations have shied away from education in general. Call me jaded, but working in retail and watching 11 year old kids come in to try and steal booze every day, when they should be at school, is disheartening.

I don't want you to get too hung up on one poorly chosen word. I think my post mostly rings true for "generation text."

Also, I tried to be helpful to him in a previous thread and offer some constructive advice. Like I said, it's not the ignorance, it's the apathy...

Indra
10-08-2010, 10:22 AM
Yea I wasn't aware chatspeak or "generation text" constitutes "dumb" and "idiocracy."

Apathy? Really? Do the posts pertaining to his way of speaking really come off as apathetic? For the child of a writer and an english teacher, you have TERRIBLE word choice.

To answer your question; yes. The way a person communicates, even if it's only with us here on a Pacers forum, is how I perceive intelligence. If he repeatedly refuses to communicate correctly and efficiently, I understand that as a deficiency. And the apathy towards improving is what bothers me.

The "dumb" comment was more towards the generation as a whole, and not specifically targeted at him. Every writer makes mistakes, that's why editors get paid so well. I owned up to my mistake, get over it.

And I do believe that successive generations are becoming more and more apathetic and ignorant (hence, idiocracy), but that's a discussion for another time and place.

1984
10-08-2010, 10:35 AM
He's a kid. He will go to college and quickly realize that "perception is reality." In other words: if you present information unintelligibly then people will treat it that way.

What is really sad is when adults make similar mistakes. I.E., (and I know I revert),


17 years old

He is part of the "twitter generation"

Thats how they role :)

The average user is older than 35. I suppose that is, "How you roll." Also, your "thats" is missing an apostrophe and I hope you were intending to cite Magnum by use of word "role." Perhaps this should be the new standard of PD. Perhaps we should comb the threads with a red pen and mark everyone's mistakes. Or is that not acceptable when it is done to an adult? Leave the kiddos alone.

Who wants to talk basketball anyways?

cordobes
10-08-2010, 10:37 AM
Posted this in another thread:

Without looking, can anyone tell me the Charlotte Bobcats PG rotation?

Once finding out what it is, even if you must look, can one tell me why they wouldn't want TJ?

DJ Augustin, Shaun Livingston, Sherron Collins.

Livingston is a hit&hope signing. His only NBA level talent is making plays off the pick'n'roll and he's a massive defensive liability defending PGs (he struggled with quick PGs even before the injury). He's more of a ball-handling wing.

Augustin regressed as a player in his 2nd season. I'm dubious about point-guards who get worse under Larry Brown. He hasn't shown the ability to be a starter in the NBA.

The other guy is a rookie. I liked him more in the SL (played tough defense and made shots) than when I saw him in college, but he's very small and not up to much as a playmaker/floor-general.

Not a lot of promise here.

They've been trying to swap Diaw for a PG. Would the Pacers be interested in that? If he were expiring, they should jump on it, but considering he has 2 years left in his contract, I don't think they should - Diaw can be a very good player in the right situation, but he's a very poor rebounder at the PF position. Not worth it.

mildlysane
10-08-2010, 10:47 AM
By the way is continue ;)
Sorry for this...."It's"
Tried to avoid this thread......;)