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Lord Helmet
10-01-2010, 08:17 PM
:colts: (2-1) The Colts coming off back to back wins against the Giants and Broncos, hope to keep the win streak alive.

:jaguars: (1-2) Last in the AFC South at 1-2, the Jaguars hope to make a statement against the Colts.

Time: 4:05 PM ET

Location: EverBank Field, Jacksonville, FL

Television: :cbssports:

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:48 AM
GO to hell :jaguars:!

Mr_Smith
10-03-2010, 08:21 AM
I could be wrong but theres really only one person for the Colts defense to focus on and thats none other than MJD. Go Colts

Natston
10-03-2010, 01:16 PM
:colts: Injuries:

Kavell Conner - Out
Anthony Gonzalez - Out
Bob Sanders - Out
Donald Brown - Out
Pierre Garcon - Out
Charlie Johnson - Questionable
Brandon King - Questionable (OUT)
Jamey Richard - Questionable (OUT)
Austin Collie - Questionable (WILL PLAY)
Clint Session - Questionable
Jerraud Powers - Probable
Gary Brackett - Probable
Jeff Saturday - Probable

Inactives:
DE Ricardo Mathews

:jaguars: Injuries:

Justin Durant - Out
Sean Considine - Doubtful (OUT)
Landon Cohen - Probable (OUT)
Rashean Mathis - Probable

Inactives:

QB Trent Edwards: Third quarterback
FB Brock Bolen
T Kevin Haslam
RB Deji Karim
DE Austen Lane

EDTS IN BOLD AND CLOR IM NOT SORRY ABUT CAPS

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 03:59 PM
Injuries are fun.

clownskull
10-03-2010, 04:25 PM
defense?

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:36 PM
defense?

They've been late for soccer rehearsal so far... :(

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:38 PM
Well this is the Jaguars Super Bowl appearance this year and we're not looking so good...

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 04:39 PM
Ugh. Jags have virtually no pass attack in the first three games, yet we are unable to force them to throw so far. Horrible tackling. They're beating us with reverses and QB draws. I'm sorry this D just stinks.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:42 PM
Bob Sanders needs to step his game up.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:43 PM
Jaguars Super Bowl Champions.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 04:44 PM
This is going to be painful.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:45 PM
That was a terrible missed tackle by Bob.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:45 PM
This is going to be painful.
Did you know New Orleans had a hurricane?

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:46 PM
375!

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:49 PM
Man, I hate Fouts as an announcer...

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:51 PM
Nice pass...

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:53 PM
Did you know the Saints won the Super Bowl?

Natston
10-03-2010, 04:56 PM
Did you know that MJD is only 5'7"?

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 04:58 PM
Did you know that MJD is only 5'7"?
Did you know that the Jaguars are ready to show the Colts who's boss in the AFC South?

Did you know the Jaguars are really really good at running?

Did you know the Saints won their first ever Super Bowl?

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:00 PM
Did you know that Jacksonville had seats under those tarps at one point?

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 05:03 PM
What?

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Mike Vick needs to play on defense for the Eagles right now...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:05 PM
What?

To sell out games, they had to reduce the number of seats. So the next time they show the upper decks you can see the awesome tarps with the logo on them.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:07 PM
To sell out games, they had to reduce the number of seats. So the next time they show the upper decks you can see the awesome tarps with the logo on them.
Did you know that's what I call dedication?

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:08 PM
Come on Collie, don't act like Garçon...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:13 PM
Kolb is back in at QB... :lol:

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:15 PM
How was that almost a horse collar tackle? He just touched his back. These announcers are terrible.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:16 PM
Kolb is back in at QB... :lol:
He sucks.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:17 PM
Nice spot, BTW.

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:19 PM
How was that almost a horse collar tackle? He just touched his back. These announcers are terrible.

That's Fouts for you... Earlier a ball was touched by Jag defender and "IT WAS ALMOST INTERCEPTED!!!!!1!"

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm still laughing at that spot.

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:21 PM
At least the Jaguars settled down and became the old Jaguars on the last drive...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:22 PM
I'm still laughing at that spot.

Eh

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:22 PM
I wish we were as great as the Steelers.

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:24 PM
That game showed that passing doesn't win games...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:38 PM
Great stops by the defense...

cdash
10-03-2010, 05:44 PM
Peyton Manning can make any receiver good.

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:44 PM
The offense is on move because of our "crackers"...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:47 PM
Damn an INT...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:48 PM
STFU Fouts

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:49 PM
Fouts really really loved that interception.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:50 PM
Poor Bullit, he's hurt again. At least when he gets hurt he tries to play through it. Bob gets a blister on his thumb and is out for the year.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 05:52 PM
STFU Fouts

Did you know that Fouts finished his 15 NFL seasons with 3,297 of 5,604 completions for 43,040 yards and 254 touchdowns, with 242 interceptions. He also rushed for 476 yards and 13 touchdowns?

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:53 PM
Poor Bullit, he's hurt again. At least when he gets hurt he tries to play through it. Bob gets a blister on his thumb and is out for the year.

Eh, Sanders gets more than that. But eh, this is coming from the guy who made fun of Dez Bryant...

Natston
10-03-2010, 05:54 PM
Can't stop the run, can't stop the pass. Can't do diddly poo offensively...

Stryder
10-03-2010, 05:54 PM
Blah. Another TD Jacksonville.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 05:58 PM
Eh, Sanders gets more than that. But eh, this is coming from the guy who made fun of Dez Bryant...
I'm just an idiot, because I made fun of King Bryant.

clownskull
10-03-2010, 05:59 PM
defense is just not getting the job done- no big surprise really.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:01 PM
I'm just not that great, because I made fun of King Bryant.

Eh

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:02 PM
defense is just not getting the job done- no big surprise really.

We're not getting it done in any area today. I agree, though, it's rather sad they've scored more already today than in their last two games total.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:05 PM
What was the point of running that play? Did they honestly think they could run off a play once the QTR had ended?

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:07 PM
Got the first anyway...

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:12 PM
GOD ****ING DAMNIT

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:12 PM
****ing pathetic.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:13 PM
Well, did anyone come to play today? Besides the Jags that is? Just poor play all around so far. Now we have to rely on the D to make a play. Yikes!

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Well, I'll be! A stop. Take advantage please.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:16 PM
These Burger King commercials are annoying and not funny.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:16 PM
And they made a play... Now it's up to the offense to not turn the ****ing ball over again...

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:19 PM
These Burger King commercials are annoying and not funny.

But it makes me want breakfast at 6PM...

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:21 PM
Here comes a turnover...

cdash
10-03-2010, 06:22 PM
There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't win this game.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:23 PM
TD ADDAI

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:27 PM
Now D really needs to step up.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:31 PM
Jesus Christ

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:31 PM
Why must Fouts make breaking a tackle for a gain of one yard sound like a TD pass?

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:32 PM
Swiss cheese STs and Swiss cheese D here when we need it.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:33 PM
Clock's a tickin'.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:33 PM
Why must Fouts make breaking a tackle for a gain of one yard sound like a TD pass?

BECAUSE HE ALMOST DID SOMETHING ELSE...

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:36 PM
No semblance of resistance whatsoever.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:36 PM
Don't worry we'll drive right back and then turn the ball over... Pick 6 maybe?

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:39 PM
I started to get pissed that he ran that out... :laugh:

cdash
10-03-2010, 06:40 PM
This is aggrevating.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:43 PM
wow

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:44 PM
come the **** on

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:44 PM
Manning two chokes in row there. 4th and game. He's still got one shot.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Thank you 8 pound 6 oz baby Jesus!

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Whew and double whew! 1st and goal.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:46 PM
TD or bust. No TOs.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:50 PM
Fouts: HE ALMOST MADE THE TACKLE IN THE BACKFIELD!

ADDAI ALMOST MADE IT IN!

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:52 PM
The new pink gloves are the reason Peyton wasn't intercepted. Are you kidding me? They are the same thing, just a different color.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:52 PM
Punch it in.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:54 PM
Dear Colts Defense,

Play like one now.

Thanks.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:55 PM
Cover kick this time, please.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:55 PM
The new pink gloves are the reason Peyton wasn't intercepted. Are you kidding me? They are the same thing, just a different color.

He was saying that it was because they are brand new...

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:56 PM
Come on defense...

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:56 PM
He was saying that it was because they are brand new...
Eh, these commentators are *** anyway.

OMG THE FOOTBALL CAME LOOSE. It's obviously a dead ball.

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:57 PM
The colts are trying to get the ball back... :devil:

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:58 PM
Fouts talking about what Underwood almost did...

Natston
10-03-2010, 06:58 PM
****KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 06:59 PM
Can't wait for Scobee to prance around like he won the Super Bowl.....

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 06:59 PM
Why did we take a timeout with them in just 2nd and 2? They've got one left. Maybe on 3rd down take it, but I don't like the decision.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Great play by the defense...

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Make a play Hayden. Geez the D is just inept.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Kelvin Haywood... :laugh:

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:02 PM
Well, if we don't gift them at timeout by taking one of ours on 2nd and 2, they may not have had enough time to get in position to try an FG at all.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:02 PM
Make a play Hayden. Geez the D is just inept.

At least they made Garrard burn a lot of clock and forcing a long attempt...

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:03 PM
Jim Caldwell is a terrible coach, by taking that timeout he cost us the game.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:04 PM
Good game management, Caldwell. Nice stand by the D there at the end against a team with an absolutely anemic pass attack.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 07:04 PM
HE WON THE SUPER BOWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:04 PM
You can't defend Caldwell anymore, he is a figure head, nothing more. He does not understand the game of football. Peyton Manning runs this football team and is the only reason we win any games. God help us when he finally retires.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Stupid game. Stupid loss.

Bring in the "We're the worst team evarrrrrrrrrrr" comments.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Jim Caldwell is a terrible coach, by taking that timeout he cost us the game.

Definitely just a bonehead call I think. But the D cost us this one. Couldn't make a play. Couldn't stop perhaps the most one dimensional offense in the league with any consistency.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:06 PM
Jim Caldwell is a terrible coach, by taking that timeout he cost us the game.

They still had a timeout left anyway. If the defense made the stop on third, Peyton would have had a chance to win. The defense let of the worst Qb's in the league drive down the field repeatedly.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:08 PM
At least they made Garrard burn a lot of clock and forcing a long attempt...

That was a gift wrapped pick, maybe a pick six. You make big plays you win close games, sometimes even when you don't play that well. D could not come up with a big play in this one even when one was handed to them at the most opportune time. It's the story of that unit. It's not even mediocre.

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:09 PM
You can't give them time, you just can't that's coaching 101.

Shade
10-03-2010, 07:10 PM
What is it with kickers nailing nearly 60-yard FG attempts against us?

SoupIsGood
10-03-2010, 07:11 PM
Our defense is looking worse and worse. What the heck happened?

Caldwell is just a guy that stands on the sidelines.

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:12 PM
Jacksonville was going to run out the clock before he did that.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:12 PM
You can't give them time, you just can't that's coaching 101.

It was like giving them a free TO when they were the ones who were in a position to most benefit from a clock stoppage. I don't see any way that call is defensible at the juncture and game situation. Just absurd.

Suaveness
10-03-2010, 07:13 PM
What he did was the smart thing. You can't blame this loss ANYWHERE other than the defense. They suck.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:13 PM
You can't give them time, you just can't that's coaching 101.

It wasn't a matter of giving them time, they were content with going to overtime and were going ultra conservative.

I only agree in that he should have let them squat on the ball, knowing how the defense underachieved entire game...

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:15 PM
What he did was the smart thing. You can't blame this loss ANYWHERE other than the defense. They suck.

JACKSONVILLE WAS RUNNING OUT THE ****ING CLOCK.

You don't have to apologize for the coach. He's not Dungy, he never earned the job. It's a joke.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 07:15 PM
If only Bob Sanders would have made that tackle....damn.

I wish we were as great as the mighty Steelers.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:15 PM
What he did was the smart thing. You can't blame this loss ANYWHERE other than the defense. They suck.

Sorry, but I just can't see how that's a smart call, but I can agree that the D shoulders majority blame for the loss. Recall that these guys had put up just 16 pts the past two weeks and are the poster child for a one-dimensional attack with a non-existent passing game.

SoupIsGood
10-03-2010, 07:17 PM
There's no way that was the smart thing to do. It was idiotic. JAX made a boneheaded call by running it up the middle with their first play and Caldwell let them off the hook.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:18 PM
Maybe Caldwell takes the TO if they are in 3rd and long and are obviously going in to kneel down mode, but I'm don't think it's even automatic then. They had 2nd and 2 so it was almost certainly that they would at least get one more set of downs.

Lord Helmet
10-03-2010, 07:20 PM
THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE, AND CALDWELL LET THEM OFF THE HOOK.

(BTW, I agree it was a stupid thing to do.)

Putnam
10-03-2010, 07:20 PM
Speaking as a not very devout Colts fan who doesn't post in this section very often, but who watched the game and saw the funny outfits -- here's all I've got to say:

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Natston
10-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Sorry, but I just can't see how that's a smart call, but I can agree that the D shoulders majority blame for the loss. Recall that these guys had put up just 16 pts the past two weeks and are the poster child for a one-dimensional attack with a non-existent passing game.

It was smart in that it was forcing a team content with ot, to convert a 1st down. It was **** poor defense that allowed some no name WR to go uncovered for three plays for 2 catches and 30 yards from a erratic QB...

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:26 PM
Speaking as a not very devout Colts fan who doesn't post in this section very often, but who watched the game and saw the funny outfits -- here's all I've got to say:

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Those "funny outfits" were for breast cancer.

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 07:27 PM
It was smart in that it was forcing a team content with ot, to convert a 1st down. It was **** poor defense that allowed some no name WR to go uncovered for three plays for 2 catches and 30 yards from a erratic QB...

It was dumb.

You can say what you want about blaming it on the D, but the D was terrible all day. Caldwell never should have given them a chance to make that play

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:28 PM
It was smart in that it was forcing a team content with ot, to convert a 1st down. It was **** poor defense that allowed some no name WR to go uncovered for three plays for 2 catches and 30 yards from a erratic QB...

Which would be fine, except that if the "strategy" backfires, you effectively provide the impetus for them to change their minds and the potential that they actually do something with the elongation of the game you served up.

EDIT: As terrible as the D had been all day, you wouldn't think Caldwell would want the Jags to actively try to score, but rather be content with a run-out and hope you get the ball first in OT.

xBulletproof
10-03-2010, 07:31 PM
It was smart in that it was forcing a team content with ot, to convert a 1st down.

.... it was 2nd and TWO after the running play. You know the defense has been struggling and two yards is a pretty damn easy pickup against any prevent defense at the end of games. Pretty damn obvious they were going to get it.

What a stupid, stupid call. I have no idea how someone can even pretend to defend this. Especially considering they were willing to go to OT, until we called timeout and they realized we were pushing them to go for it.

Natston
10-03-2010, 07:33 PM
I don't even know if they changed their minds, they held on to that timeout for absolutely no reason. They left Underwood wide op three times... Three times.

pacer4ever
10-03-2010, 07:35 PM
THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE, AND CALDWELL LET THEM OFF THE HOOK.

(BTW, I agree it was a stupid thing to do.)

Da Bears lol they are who we thoght they were

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:36 PM
They have the ball with a chance to score to likely win the game. They need time. We need time to expire ASAP and hope to win the OT coin toss. The way our D had played, there's no way that's not the top priority conclusion we're trying to encourage at that point.

D-BONE
10-03-2010, 07:45 PM
I know someone will most certainly accuse me of "the sky is falling" routine, but I think concern after the first quarter of the season is warranted.

-The D, with the notable exception of the Giants game, has been extremely porous. Opponents in 3 of 4 games have absolutely moved the ball at will.

-Made an uber one-dimensional offense in Jacksonville look unstoppable.

-A very tough schedule.

-A coach who inspires very little confidence, IMO.

As I've stated previously, we'll get a decent number of wins just based on Manning's greatness, but barring significant and consistent improvement by the D, we will not be in any discussion about legitimate superbowl contenders.

Sollozzo
10-03-2010, 07:55 PM
When is Bill Polian going to be held accountable? This team has had glaring weaknesses that have been around for years. Our recent drafts have been a who's who of crap for the most part, yet this man continues to get painted as some sort of genius. He's lucky one of the 5 greatest QB's of all time has covered up his poor performance over the last few years.

This team just isn't that great. We are only going as far as Manning can take us. It's unfortunate for Peyton that the front-office isn't doing a better job in maxing out his remaining years.

Hicks
10-03-2010, 08:11 PM
Colts win = small thread, Colts lose = big thread. :laugh:

Putnam
10-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Those "funny outfits" were for breast cancer.

Didn't I know that?

Mr_Smith
10-03-2010, 08:52 PM
This is the third time Scobee has kicked a GW FG on the Colts.....along with the two turnovers on offense, the the defense couldn't get it done in this game. Peyton drove the offense to tie the game up three times and the defense could make anything happen. Unreal

Young
10-03-2010, 10:28 PM
I don't think you can blame that loss on Caldwell. Jacksonville had 1 timeout remaining right? Had they needed one they could have called it.

I blame the loss on the defense or lack of. When you can't stop them on third down and allow them to average like 5 yards per rush you will struggle to win. Sure the Colts had 2 turnovers but 28 points should be plenty to beat this Jacksonville team.

Sollozzo
10-03-2010, 10:41 PM
What he did was the smart thing. You can't blame this loss ANYWHERE other than the defense. They suck.



And the suckiness of the defense is why it was a horrendous decision. If your defense was putrid for the previous 3 hours then why do you think you're going to magically stop them there? That's just a horrendous situational football decision. Jacksonville was going to run the clock out which meant that we had a 50/50 chance of getting the ball first in OT. The odds of Manning getting a touchdown in OT are better than the odds of your ****-poor defense forcing Jax to punt at the end of the game.

What's even more frustrating the decision itself is Caldwell's refusal to admit he made a mistake.

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 10:54 PM
I don't care if Jacksonville had three timeouts remaining folks, they were content to go to overtime and we should have been too, but then Caldwell basically spited Del Rio and our defense got owned like it had the rest of the game.

Caldwell was out coached by JACK DEL RIO. I'm not sure I can make that clear enough, maybe with bolding it JACK DEL RIO.

Caldwell has a terrible track record as a coach before he got to the Colts, terrible. Why did he deserve the head coaching job of one of the most successful franchises of the past decade? Can someone give me one good reason?

jeffg-body
10-03-2010, 11:11 PM
We lost the game plain and simply because we were outplayed. Yes, we beat ourselves with turnovers and stupid decisions. I have to give credit to Jacksonville because their o-line played an outstanding game. They made the big plays and we didn't. The better team won today. We'll get another shot at them in our house. Hopefully we will learn from this game and execute a better on both sides of the ball. 2-2 is not the end of the world.

Bball
10-03-2010, 11:20 PM
When is Bill Polian going to be held accountable? This team has had glaring weaknesses that have been around for years. Our recent drafts have been a who's who of crap for the most part, yet this man continues to get painted as some sort of genius. He's lucky one of the 5 greatest QB's of all time has covered up his poor performance over the last few years.

This team just isn't that great. We are only going as far as Manning can take us. It's unfortunate for Peyton that the front-office isn't doing a better job in maxing out his remaining years.

One thought to throw out there and dovetail onto this...
IMHO if Peyton wanted Polian gone he'd be gone as soon as he uttered the words. Not only do I believe Peyton could do that in a heartbeat, I also believe Peyton could name Polian's replacement... be it any number of the current crop of candidates, his dad, Cooper, or even his Mom. He could even request Vince Lombardi be interviewed for the job and I think Irsay would hold seances to try and accommodate Peyton.

So that begs the question... If it's so obvious that Polian should be replaced (or dictated to) why isn't Manning requesting it?

Sollozzo
10-03-2010, 11:27 PM
One thought to throw out there and dovetail onto this...
IMHO if Peyton wanted Polian gone he'd be gone as soon as he uttered the words. Not only do I believe Peyton could do that in a heartbeat, I also believe Peyton could name Polian's replacement... be it any number of the current crop of candidates, his dad, Cooper, or even his Mom. He could even request Vince Lombardi be interviewed for the job and I think Irsay would hold seances to try and accommodate Peyton.

So that begs the question... If it's so obvious that Polian should be replaced (or dictated to) why isn't Manning requesting it?


Because that's not Manning's style. Manning would never go to Irsay and demand that Bill Polian, the guy that drafted him and has been with the franchise his entire career, be fired.

Trader Joe
10-03-2010, 11:54 PM
He shouldn't have to either, he's already playing QB, offensive coordinator, and arguably head coach...how many jobs should he have to do?

xBulletproof
10-04-2010, 12:05 AM
It's getting kinda crazy when people think they know enough to tell us how players/personnel act off the field.

None of know that. Shouldn't pretend you do.

Trader Joe
10-04-2010, 12:10 AM
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Peyton's the offensive coordinator. Whoever our offensive coordinator is (I forget his name) basically said Peyton cuts him off from calling any plays on a quote during the Giants or Broncos game I can't remember.

And I'd bet the team would listen to Peyton before Caldwell.

Bball
10-04-2010, 12:36 AM
Because that's not Manning's style. .

It may not be his style but it is his career and there's likely less road in front of Manning's cart as there is behind it.

I just don't see him being at a point in his career, or power with the franchise, that he'd be overly loyal if he thinks some personnel moves need to be made.

Of course whatever the reason... I agree with your original point. I can't stand Polian's arrogance...

Sollozzo
10-04-2010, 08:26 AM
And I'd bet the team would listen to Peyton before Caldwell.



Wasn't it Peyton who had to calm the team down after we didn't go for the undefeated season?

Trader Joe
10-04-2010, 09:28 AM
Yes, it was.

Face it, the Colts have in a way brought this upon themselves. Peyton has become so integral to this franchise that the thought of him moving on right now is pretty mortifying. What's our contingency plan once he leaves? (No it's not too early to think about this.) We really don't have one, at least if we had gotten out and tried to get an established coach like Bill Cowher or really anyone who had a track record that didn't consist of a ****ty run at Wake Forest where the team went 26-63!!!!! They couldn't even win 30% of their games!!!

Oh and by the way before anyone says, "Hey, it's Wake Forest! You try winning there!" Jim Grobe, the guy who took over for Caldwell has had a 94-87 record. Not world beating, but much more impressive than a 30% winning time.

Caldwell had one winning season! ONE!

The guy just isn't a head coach, he doesn't have an identity, and his teams have NEVER run the ball well. At Wake, he had a season where his leading rusher barely got over 300 yards! 300 yards!

The guy's resume sucks, and if this had been any other team there is no way he would have gotten the job, but Dungy vouched for him and for some reason they gave a coach with a terrible, terrible track record the keys to the franchise.

This would be like suddenly giving Danice Patrick the keys to the Ferrari F1 team, how high are you right now might be an appropriate reaction to that and thus the same is true with the Caldwell hiring.

We had a chance to hire a coach that could establish an identity for the team, and perhaps ease the transition whenever Peyton does call it a career. Now we have what? A guy that failed at Wake Forest? A guy that is so catatonic on the sidelines that even as Bill Simmons was slowly coming around to accept the greatness of Peyton, it was in large part due to the fact that he couldn't believe we were still so effective with this guy as a head coach.

Please someone, anyone I'm dying, give me a well thought out, logical explanation as to why Jim Caldwell was qualified to coach the Indianapolis Colts.

Basketball Fan
10-04-2010, 12:59 PM
Wasn't it Peyton who had to calm the team down after we didn't go for the undefeated season?

Yes it was him and he told Polian to not bother talking to them since they didn't want to see him.

Honestly I'm seriously considering getting him to coach the team. And he can hire someone else on Defense.

While Cowher would be an ideal choice he'll never come here Polian wouldn't allow such a thing.

I'd love for Jim Harbaugh to come back and coach the Colts. I mean his brother has done well for the Ravens. Maybe he can do the same for us.

What truly worries me is that this is the last year of his contract and he hasn't signed an extension... if this season ends badly I'd worry about him leaving.

And don't say it isn't possible nobody stays on the same team forever that's a rarity these days.

Basketball Fan
10-04-2010, 01:02 PM
You can't defend Caldwell anymore, he is a figure head, nothing more. He does not understand the game of football. Peyton Manning runs this football team and is the only reason we win any games. God help us when he finally retires.



You mean last season's decision didn't give it away he's just a figurehead?

Because no coach with balls would ever let that happen.

Bball
10-04-2010, 04:28 PM
Please someone, anyone I'm dying, give me a well thought out, logical explanation as to why Jim Caldwell was qualified to coach the Indianapolis Colts.

Even if Caldwell goes on to coach the team to several more SB appearances I don't think his resume warranted the jump to HC of the Indianapolis Colts... particularly without an interview process and look at the coaching landscape on the day the position was officially available.

IOW- Caldwell could turn out to be a brilliant hire... but I don't think the process that led him to the job can be justified.

Slick Pinkham
10-04-2010, 04:58 PM
del Rio was being stupid and running out the clock, despite facing a defense stopping nothing.

So Caldwell thinks... hmmm... he must have some devious plot, so I will foil his fake stupidity with real stupidity of my own, saving us from being on the wrong side of a "stupidity gap".

Then del Rio was too stupid to think of new stupidities quickly enough to "win" the battle of witlessness.

I never thought it was possible to out-stupid Jack del Rio. Now I know better.

;)

Trader Joe
10-04-2010, 04:59 PM
del Rio was being stupid and running out the clock, despite facing a defense stopping nothing.

So Caldwell thinks... hmmm... he must have some devious plot, so I will foil his fake stupidity with real stupidity of my own, saving us from being on the wrong side of a "stupidity gap".

Then del Rio was too stupid to think of new stupidities quickly enough to "win" the battle of witlessness.

I never thought it was possible to out-stupid Jack del Rio. Now I know better.

;)

I know you're only being half serious, but the sad thing is that this is an accurate representation of how things played out.

vapacersfan
10-04-2010, 05:20 PM
You guys should just keep caldwell and trade the Redskins Manning for Clinton Portis and a future 7th round draft pick ;)

Basketball Fan
10-04-2010, 05:47 PM
You guys should just keep caldwell and trade the Redskins Manning for Clinton Portis and a future 7th round draft pick ;)

Sick of McNabb already?

vapacersfan
10-04-2010, 06:01 PM
To be perfect honest, I am pleasantly surprised.

I wish he was a bit coller under pressure (the lame duck throws with a guy in his make me cringe every time), but he makes plays I have not seen a Redskins QB make in ages.

That said, Ill still gladly take Manning off your hands :D

Mr_Smith
10-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Did Ron Meeks come back to be the D Coordinator for the Houston and Jacksonville games??

Basketball Fan
10-05-2010, 11:56 AM
Its pretty sad that even Manning's mom thought we were going into Overtime and she couldn't believe it ended like that when she was interviewed on Fox59 this morning.

She can know this but not our own coach?

Basketball Fan
10-05-2010, 02:44 PM
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By Dana Treen

A Jacksonville man was in serious condition today after plummeting two floors at EverBank Field Sunday following the Jaguars last-second victory over the Indianapolis Colts.

Brent Sawdy, 34, was either high-fiving another fan or trying to scramble from a stairway to an escalator when he fell from the second level of the stadium, according to police.

Sawdy was taken to Shands Jacksonville following the 7 p.m. accident. When police tried to determine if he had been pushed, Sawdy told them no, according to a police report.

Police said Sawdy appeared intoxicated.

One witness reported seeing Sawdy miss an attempted high-five and pitch over the railing. Two others said he was on a stair railing or trying to cross from the stairs to an escalator when he fell.