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Speed
09-29-2010, 06:02 PM
Read it bottom to top.


http://twitter.com/mg_indy

Pacers audio now up: http://tinyurl.com/2ddzvfu (http://tinyurl.com/2ddzvfu) First clip is JOB talking about the Day-2 improvements...plus short interviews w/Paul & Mike 32 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25918703708) via web


MikeWellsNBA (http://twitter.com/MikeWellsNBA) They weren't lying about his defense, either. He's got some major work to do to improve his defense. about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/MikeWellsNBA/status/25917237631) via web Retweeted by mg_indy (http://twitter.com/mg_indy)
<LI id=status_25917545812 class="hentry u-MikeWellsNBA share status" nodeIndex="4">MikeWellsNBA (http://twitter.com/MikeWellsNBA) Pacers officials weren't lying when they said Stephenson can do things offensively. He's been going to work the first two days of camp. about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/MikeWellsNBA/status/25917164366) via web Retweeted by mg_indy (http://twitter.com/mg_indy) and 1 other
<LI id=status_25916243071 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="5">Very physical 2day: Rolle & Roy both took shots 2 the head & took a seat & Posey left after hurting his arm (I believe it was his shoulder) about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25916243071) via web
<LI id=status_25916076489 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="6">Lance and George had several steals and just ran the Blue team ragged. Very strong improvement from yesterday. They also hit open shots... about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25916076489) via web
<LI id=status_25916002616 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="7">The 2nd unit (White team) was just too quick for the 1st unit today (I stress "today"...don't read toooo much into one practice)... about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25916002616) via web
<LI id=status_25915795247 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="8">Solo: 27-13 (W)...JMac 1-of-2 FT's: 27-14 (W)...Darren: 27-16 (W)..Allred: 29-16 (W)...D. Jones 2FT's: 29-18 (W)..& that was the final score about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25915795247) via web
<LI id=status_25915660196 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="9">George 2FT's: 15-13 (W)...Solo 2FT's: 17-13 (W)...Posey 3pter: 20-13 (W)...Stephenson 2FT's: 22-13 (W)...Posey 3pter: 25-13 (W) about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25915660196) via web
<LI id=status_25915514999 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="10">Foster And-1: 8-10 (B)...Stephenson 3pter: 11-10 (W)...Granger 1-of-2 FTs: 11-11...George 2FT's: 13-11 (W)...Granger: 13-13... about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25915514999) via web
<LI id=status_25915365558 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="11">Solo: 2-0 (White)...Dunleavy: 2-2...George: 4-2 (W)...JMac 3pter: 4-5 (Blue)...Allred: 6-5 (W)...George: 8-5 (W)...D. Jones 2FT's: 8-7 (W) about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25915365558) via web
<LI id=status_25915037470 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="12">White team: TJ, Rush, Solomon, Rolle, George, Hansbrough, Posey, Stephenson, & Allred about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25915037470) via web
<LI id=status_25914989632 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="13">Blue team: Granger, Darren, Dunleavy, JMAC, Roy, AJ, D. Jones, & Foster about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914989632) via web
<LI id=status_25914932224 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="14">At the end of practice they had a 12-min scrimmage. about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914932224) via web
<LI id=status_25914888944 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="15">However, JOB wasn't satisfied with the effort/execution from the unit of TJ, Rush, Tyler, D. Jones, & Solomon...& he made them run sprints about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914888944) via web
<LI id=status_25914778564 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="16">The point was 2 play strong 'D' & push the ball up the floor after a score or miss. Granger, Dunleavy, JMAC, Roy, & Darren were just fine.. about 2 hours ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914778564) via web
<LI id=status_25914650277 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="17">When the media walked in...JOB had the guys in a defensive drill. Stephenson, George, Posey, Rolle, & Foster stayed on offense about 2 hours ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914650277) via web
<LI id=status_25913630249 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="18">I almost wrecked while tweeting and driving yesterday...so I'll have more info in 10 min when I get back to the studio... about 2 hours ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25913630249) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/)
<LI id=status_25913499669 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="19">Leaving Pacers practice. Saw the last hour of scrimmages again. Today's story: The young guys looked gr8. MUCH better than yesterday... about 2 hours ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25913499669) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/)

vnzla81
09-29-2010, 06:09 PM
is always hard to read those tweets, thanks

Speed
09-29-2010, 06:14 PM
Looks like Paul George had 8 and Stephenson had 5 of the 29 by the white team. Not bad for a 12 minute scrimmage.

Cactus Jax
09-29-2010, 06:19 PM
about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/mg_indy/status/25914932224) via web
<LI id=status_25914888944 class="hentry u-mg_indy status" nodeIndex="15">However, JOB wasn't satisfied with the effort/execution from the unit of TJ, Rush, Tyler, D. Jones, & Solomon...& he made them run sprints

At least 3 out of the 5 would be considered on the not so popular list, with Rush's drug issues also being a concern, I'm betting Tyler was pissed to be grouped with them hehe.

Oh and the JMAC 3 pointer(s) are flying in training camp still.

ChristianDudley
09-29-2010, 06:32 PM
Man the blue team was WAY stronger talent-wise imo than the White team--I guess it was more of a "practice defense and offense as a TEAM" drill more than a "who's better; find our rotation guys" drill as the Blue Team had the advantage all the way.

daschysta
09-29-2010, 06:35 PM
Can anyone decipher the big mishmash of numbers? I have no idea what they correspond to.

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 06:38 PM
like i have said b4 Lance is very skilled and can be a dynamic change of pace guard. Paul will earn a starting role by the all star break if ot sooner. that is my predicton also, lance will be playing heavy mintues that is my 2nd 1 my 2 bold predictions



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I dont know how you guard lance he is so quick. The play at the end i was scream during that game we came back from 25 points to win lol

Pacers#1Fan
09-29-2010, 06:45 PM
Can anyone decipher the big mishmash of numbers? I have no idea what they correspond to.
It's the score of the scrimmage

Example: JMac 3pter: 4-5 (Blue) means McRoberts hit a three and the score was then 4 to 5 with Blue team on top.

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 06:46 PM
wow the rookies and TJ, Rush, Solomon Hansbrough, Posey & Allred really handed it to the 1st unit i like it go PG24

Trader Joe
09-29-2010, 07:13 PM
Not surprised the 2nd unit won. You have guys trying to make the team and earn playing time. Time for the starters to get a wake up call. Let's go.

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 07:19 PM
Not surprised the 2nd unit won. You have guys trying to make the team and earn playing time. Time for the starters to get a wake up call. Let's go.

very good point

Speed
09-29-2010, 09:02 PM
Solo 6
JMac 4
Dunleavy 2
Alred 4
D Jones 4
Foster 3
Granger 3
Posey 6
Darren 2
P George 8
Lance 5

Anthem
09-29-2010, 09:23 PM
I dont know how you guard lance he is so quick.
I like Lance (as a player, at least). But he's the 4th-quickest guy on the team at best.

Deadshot
09-29-2010, 09:26 PM
This isn't related to training camp, but that video directed me to this video of Lance that I hadn't seen before:

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BornReady
09-29-2010, 10:20 PM
I was just watching the Wed scrimmage highlights, and Posey, although he did very well, does NOT look like a PF to me.

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 10:55 PM
I like Lance (as a player, at least). But he's the 4th-quickest guy on the team at best.

i mean for his size did u watch him in SL. i swear no one could stay with him but again he didnt play vs much NBA talent there

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 10:56 PM
man i wish there was some video lol

Hicks
09-29-2010, 11:23 PM
Pacers.com has video from Wednesday's scrimmage up:

http://www.nba.com/pacers/index_main.html

Day-V
09-29-2010, 11:23 PM
i mean for his size did u watch him in SL. i swear no one could stay with him but again he didnt play vs much NBA talent there

If you thought Lance was fast in Summer League, then Chris Paul would've looked like the friggin Road Runner.

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Pacers.com has video from Wednesday's scrimmage up:

http://www.nba.com/pacers/index_main.html

posey looks like he is in good shape and there is some good PnR going on. Paul looks really good on D and he is not dribbling to much and some really good passing looks like he is coming along fast. overall we look a lot better than yesterday besides couple missed layups we look ok.

BringJackBack
09-29-2010, 11:33 PM
From that video I got:

Solomon Jones.... the human highlight reel?

Is Roy Hibbert playing terrible or something??

imawhat
09-29-2010, 11:34 PM
Paul George, looking good again!

pacer4ever
09-29-2010, 11:36 PM
If you thought Lance was fast in Summer League, then Chris Paul would've looked like the friggin Road Runner.

lol ya but lance is 1/2 a foot taller but chris is really really really quick lol

Anthem
09-29-2010, 11:59 PM
i mean for his size did u watch him in SL. i swear no one could stay with him but again he didnt play vs much NBA talent there
Other than TWill, did Lance go up against a player who made it to a training camp?

pacer4ever
09-30-2010, 12:28 AM
Other than TWill, did Lance go up against a player who made it to a training camp?

ya he destroyed Sundiata Gaines who is know for his D backup for deron williams(now problly 3rd string with watson signing) also damion james(sf) of the Nets and gearlad henderson of the bobcats and the OKC squad was loaded james harden played and Eric Maynor and for philly maybe thier starting backcourt Jrue Holiday, Evan Turner
last 4 are legit nba players specially jrue and turner


and a couple more like jodie meeks but guys who will most likely ride the bench

pwee31
09-30-2010, 12:39 AM
Dunleavy looks a lot better than last year. Granted it's early in camp but he has his legs under him.

PG is very active in the passing lanes. I see a lot of breakaways in his future!

I almost forgot how good a 3pt shooter Posey has been in the past.

Tj looks active and appears to be enjoying this team, hope he has a good season

I'd like to see more footage of Roy being active and involved

Psyren
09-30-2010, 12:44 AM
Dunleavy looks a lot better than last year. Granted it's early in camp but he has his legs under him.

PG is very active in the passing lanes. I see a lot of breakaways in his future!

I almost forgot how good a 3pt shooter Posey has been in the past.

Tj looks active and appears to be enjoying this team, hope he has a good season

I'd like to see more footage of Roy being active and involved
Couldn't agree more with all of this.

And I completely forgot as well, man Posey has a smooth 3 point shot.

Jose Slaughter
09-30-2010, 03:18 AM
His percentage is starting to drift downward now that he's into his 30's.

Its fallen from 40.3 in 05-06 to 37.5, 38.0, 36.9 to 33.5 last season.

vnzla81
09-30-2010, 06:32 AM
http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/2010/09/29/good-bounce-back-day-for-the-rookies/



THE ‘BURBS – What a difference a day can make.
The Pacers three rookies – Paul George, Lance Stephenson and Magnum Rolle – looked overwhelmed on the first day of training camp Tuesday.

That wasn’t the case 24 hours later.

The Pacers were in the midst of a three-team scrimmage – gold, blue and white – when the media started to watch practice (Jim O’Brien does a good job of letting the media watch a good portion of practice).
The first team that scored stayed on the court.

The blue team consisted of the “starters.” Collison, Dunleavy, Granger, McRoberts and Hibbert.

The white squad was Ford, D. Jones, S. Jones, Hansbrough and Allred.

The gold squad was Stephenson, George, Rolle, Posey and Foster.

Guess what team dominated the scrimmage?

Don’t even think of saying the starters.
The gold team gave the other two teams the business.

It got so bad at one point that O’Brien told the gold team to stop running the same play because the other two teams couldn’t stop them.

Stephenson is so crafty with the ball and he knows how to muscle his way to basket and get a shot off. He also played some shooting guard.

I must warn you, though, team officials were right when they said Stephenson has a lot of work ahead of him if he expects to be an average defender.

Defense definitely isn’t his specialty.

I was really impressed with Rolle.

He’s so active on the glass. He pursues the ball until he can’t anymore. Rolle went through a stretch of about four straight possessions where he either outhustled the other team for the loose ball, grabbed the rebound or got a tip in.

It also helped Rolle that he was on the same team as Foster, who, too, has a motor that doesn’t stop.

The rookies will have their fair share of up-and-down days, but you can see why the Pacers like each one of them

McKeyFan
09-30-2010, 07:59 AM
I like Lance (as a player, at least). But he's the 4th-quickest guy on the team at best.

They said Bird was slow, too. But he was actually very quick in his first step and with certain small moves with the basketball.

I think Lance is similar. But, yes, he wouldn't win the 40 yard dash.

Speed
09-30-2010, 08:10 AM
Lance is agile, sudden, quick. TJ is straight line fast. To me, quick and fast are completely different things. Then you can break down even further, with the ball, with a purpose/basketgall IQ, and change of pace usage. It's really not as simple as it seems.

graphic-er
09-30-2010, 09:18 AM
Man PG is long. Dude comes out of nowhere in the passing lanes.

'm hoping that they aren't filming Roy that much because they are trying to keep his game a secret form opposing teams, cause in the film I am seeing he is getting out worked.

Really?
09-30-2010, 09:35 AM
"Funny no one said anything about the "PD Golden Child Collison"... like I said before I still think that he is unproven and has a low ceiling... hopefully his play in the video I have seen for the past couple of days will not be an indicator of how he will play in the season.

I know I'm probably the only one that feels this way... but oh well

daschysta
09-30-2010, 09:39 AM
We haven't heard much about granger and hibbert either. In fact by all accounts solomon jones has outplayed them so far.

Oh well I guess danny is just a flash in the pan, and roy is going to regress this year.

Shucks.

graphic-er
09-30-2010, 09:41 AM
We haven't heard much about granger and hibbert either. In fact by all accounts solomon jones has outplayed them so far.

Oh well I guess danny is just a flash in the pan, and roy is going to regress this year.

Shucks.

Lol, I'd imagine for both Roy and Danny, the goal is just to get through training camp and preseason with any injuries.

daschysta
09-30-2010, 09:49 AM
No sir. Apparently these scrimmages are valid evaluations of a players expectations for the regular season, beyond that apparently we can accurately predict a players potential ceilings based on them. I'm afraid that just like Darren, both Danny and Roy will be victims of this preseason litmus test and lead us nowhere but nowhere.

Really?
09-30-2010, 10:05 AM
No sir. Apparently these scrimmages are valid evaluations of a players expectations for the regular season, beyond that apparently we can accurately predict a players potential ceilings based on them. I'm afraid that just like Darren, both Danny and Roy will be victims of this preseason litmus test and lead us nowhere but nowhere.

Please don't write in Bright Green again it is extremely hard to read... and as far as preseason, check out the teams that continue to win and have great players... They go hard in preseason making sure that they start out the season with momentum. From the looks of it some of the Pacers seem to be following this pattern while others aren't. I will have to say that what I think we really need is a leader.

As far as Collison I just feel that he is so unproven and even from last seasons play I feel he has a low ceiling... I guess we will see in the future if I am right or wrong.

But on a positive note Posey looks like he will be a really good contributor and Mike Dunleavy looks good again. Just adding that to the other positive stuff that has already been said in this forum.

pacer4ever
09-30-2010, 11:57 AM
We haven't heard much about granger and hibbert either. In fact by all accounts solomon jones has outplayed them so far.

Oh well I guess danny is just a flash in the pan, and roy is going to regress this year.

Shucks.

wow ll thats all i can say

MyFavMartin
09-30-2010, 12:06 PM
Lots of jumpshots from distance... I'm wondering if scrimmaging like this without some coaches acting as referees might be reinforcing the habit of not driving to the basket to get a trip to the foul line?

pacer4ever
09-30-2010, 12:27 PM
Lance is agile, sudden, quick. TJ is straight line fast. To me, quick and fast are completely different things. Then you can break down even further, with the ball, with a purpose/basketgall IQ, and change of pace usage. It's really not as simple as it seems.

thats the word i was lookin for thank ya it seems like he skips st8 to 5th gear by passing 3&4 gear If he works on his D watch out.

Since86
09-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Please don't write in Bright Green again it is extremely hard to read... and as far as preseason, check out the teams that continue to win and have great players... They go hard in preseason making sure that they start out the season with momentum. From the looks of it some of the Pacers seem to be following this pattern while others aren't. I will have to say that what I think we really need is a leader.

Green indicates that it's sarcasm. And plus, just highlight the text and it's a lot easier on the eyes.

Trader Joe
09-30-2010, 01:07 PM
Lance isn't necessarily quick IMO, he just has a great hesitation move in his arsenal and is very deceiving about when he is going to change gears.

90'sNBARocked
09-30-2010, 01:11 PM
Lance's biggest asset is his strength, he can bull doze his way to the hole. He is like a "Tyler" SG

Really?
09-30-2010, 01:26 PM
Green indicates that it's sarcasm. And plus, just highlight the text and it's a lot easier on the eyes.

ok thanks, I will remember that int he future..

Pacerfan
09-30-2010, 04:31 PM
Thursday Scrimmage is up on pacers.com
http://www.nba.com/pacers/video/2010/09/30/highlights100930-1427265/index.html

TooBigNdaPaint
10-01-2010, 07:21 PM
Dun-Dun may start at SG this year but as we all know, it's ONLY becuz Brandon is suspended and JOB has always had a problem with developing his rookies. Paul George is already better than Dun-Dun if you play NBA basketball with your DEFENSE dictating your OFFENSE. The Pacer BS of going up and down the court and giving UP as much as you score if DUMB. JOB needs to put the best athletes on the court and let them PLAY at least 25 minutes per game. We need guys on the court who can cause MISMATCHES. Dun-Dun doesn't create any kind of mismatch. Paul George at SG, Lance Stephenson at PG, Magnum Rolle (with his quickness, speed down the court, and mid-range shooting prowess) at PF will ALL create mismatches. I like McBob at PF but you can tell that he wants to take the shot behind the 3pt line and he will now spot up there and shoot it when he gets the rock passed to him. McBob is best suited near the rim where his nasty attitude helps the team when he get rebounds, starts the break, and he runs the court to finish at the rim. If we continue to play this pansy-antsy game of 3pt shooting again this year, I'll puke with all the athletes we have now.

MLB007
10-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Lance isn't necessarily quick IMO, he just has a great hesitation move in his arsenal and is very deceiving about when he is going to change gears.

He is very shifty.