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BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 12:33 PM
Just in case you're going to be watching...

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/_common/_images/_flags/USA.gif
United States

-VS-

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Puerto Rico

USA Roster
No  Pos   Player
4    G    Allen Iverson
5    G    Stephon Marbury
6    G    Dwyane Wade
7    F    Carlos Boozer
8    F    Carmelo Anthony
9    G    Lebron James
10   F/C  Emeka Okafor
11   F    Shawn Marion
12   C    Amare Stoudemire
13   F/C  Tim Duncan
14   F    Lamar Odom
15   F    Richard Jefferson

Puerto Rico Roster
No  Pos   Player
4    C    Jose Ortiz
5    F/G  Eddie Casiano
6    G    Roberto Hatton
7    G    Carlos Arroyo
8    F/G  Rick Apodaca
9    G    Christian Dalmau
10   G    Elias Ayuso
11   C    Peter John Ramos
12   F    Rolando Hourruitiner
13   F    Sharif Fajardo
14   F    Jorge Rivera
15   C    Daniel Santiago


2004 Olympic Preliminary Round Groups
Group A
China
New Zealand
Italia
Spain
Argentina
Serbia & Montenegro

Group B
Angola
Australia
Greece
Lithuania
Puerto Rico
United States

LouisvilleLip
08-15-2004, 12:43 PM
what time does the game start?

Hicks
08-15-2004, 12:54 PM
Noon on NBC

RimBender
08-15-2004, 12:56 PM
AHHH!:o

You scared me Hicks, It doesn't start till 1. You said noon and I thought I missed it.

Shade
08-15-2004, 12:57 PM
Is this the first "real" game for the USA?

RimBender
08-15-2004, 12:58 PM
Yeah and we gonna win.

Hicks
08-15-2004, 12:59 PM
AHHH!:o

You scared me Hicks, It doesn't start till 1. You said noon and I thought I missed it.

I said noon and I meant noon. It starts at noon. I live in Indiana, and it's just now noon.

Yes it's the first real game, Shade.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:01 PM
Not the smoothest start...:rolleyes:

PR 3, USA 0

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:05 PM
On the floor for USA: Duncan, Odom, Jefferson, Marbury, Iverson

Score tied 7-all at the 6:20 mark

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:15 PM
This is absolutely pathetic. Even if we win, it's apparent that something has to change.

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:21 PM
After 1:

USA 20
Puerto Rico 21

:puke: :shakehead: :suicide:

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:22 PM
End of the 1st Quarter: PR 21, USA 20 :unimpressed:

Hmm... for some reason sometimes the images for the country flags I used in the 1st post show up correctly, other times they don't :confused:

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:27 PM
Down 31-22 now. Wow.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:27 PM
This is getting ugly... our lack of ability to hit the outside shot in international ball strikes again :mad:

zxc
08-15-2004, 01:28 PM
How is this team so bad? =\

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:31 PM
Largest deficit in Olympic history for the US, since NBA players were allowed. 35-22. :shakehead:

ABADays
08-15-2004, 01:31 PM
You just shake your head at this team

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:32 PM
Wow, Arroyo just destroyed Stoudamire on that move to the hoop! :o

PR 35, USA 24

skyfire
08-15-2004, 01:33 PM
review of the 1/4 anyone?

how on earth are the US losing to Puerto Rico??

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:33 PM
Largest deficit in Olympic history for the US, since NBA players were allowed. 35-22. :suicide:

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:35 PM
Down 15.

Arroyo > USA

:shakehead:

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:35 PM
Well, when they filled all the spots for the guys that pulled out or were injured..they went with style over substance. Heck, I'd almost rather see a Micheal Redd, Jason Kapono or a Kyle Korver instead of LeBron, Wade, or Marbury.

We are getting our asses kicked by Puerto Rico. This is embarrassing. This is OUR GAME.

Also, the int'l refs are :bs:! I understand if they call it tight, but call the ***** both ways....This is crap how we get manhandled with no whistles!

Down by 15...all this don't matter, I guess.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:36 PM
It's the same story as before: the international teams are playing team ball, are shooting the ball better, and the USA team relies too much on individual play, look out of sync, and can't shoot crap from the outside :grumble:

PR 39, USA 25

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:37 PM
Richard Jefferson = :rolleyes:

Hicks
08-15-2004, 01:37 PM
From now on the teams need to be designed with:

A dominant big man.
A dominant wingman.
A dominant small guard.
3 of the best shooters we have.
3 of the best rebounders we have.
3 of the best defenders we have.

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:39 PM
Where is Puerto Rico predicted to finish? They aren't expected to medal, are they?

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:40 PM
Holy Lord, Santiago is HIDEOUS! He's got the full unibrow thing goin' on, and those eyes...THOSE EYES!!! :eek: :goodnight:

Hicks
08-15-2004, 01:40 PM
Personally I'd like to see:

Wade
Bryant
Artest
Ben Wallace
Duncan

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:41 PM
Where is Puerto Rico predicted to finish? They aren't expected to medal, are they?

Nope. PR is not supposed to be a medal contender...:mad:

Man, Arroyo is just killing the US

PR 44, USA 27

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:41 PM
17 down now.

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:42 PM
Make that 19. :eek:

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 01:42 PM
Personally I'd like to see:

Wade
Bryant
Artest
Ben Wallace
Duncan

Ya that team would obliterate everyone. No opposing team would score over 25 pts

But more than that Larry Brown is just bad for this team.
They would have done better taking ANY team from the NBA with their coaching staff. Bulls, Celtics, Clips whoever.

Hicks
08-15-2004, 01:43 PM
You know it just occured to me: Does TeamUSA have ANY players from Indiana, Detroit, Minnesota, or LA from last season?

zxc
08-15-2004, 01:43 PM
19 point lead.. this is pathetic. Jefferson needs to shoot a few more jumpers or something.. :rolleyes:

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:44 PM
Personally I'd like to see:

Wade
Bryant
Artest
Ben Wallace
Duncan

That would be awesome. Just the right mix of offense and defense in there.

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:45 PM
After we got :beatup: in 2002, I thought they said USA basketball would use more tier 2 and 3 guys. Yeah right, whatever...If we had any of those guys that could shoot, we would be ok.

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 01:45 PM
I hope All those people who wanna trade Ron for Marion "the matrix" are watching this game... :rolleyes:

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:46 PM
You know it just occured to me: Does TeamUSA have ANY players from Indiana, Detroit, Minnesota, or LA from last season?

Nope, but we've certainly got a lot of dysfunctional characters:

Iverson, Marbury, Odom, Jefferson, Boozer, etc. :rolleyes:

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:46 PM
I hope All those people who wanna trade Ron for Marion "the matrix" are watching this game... :rolleyes:

:amen:

zxc
08-15-2004, 01:46 PM
How many points have they scored in the second quarter? Like 5?

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:46 PM
PUERTO RICO LEADS BY 20. :suicide:

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:47 PM
How many points have they scored in the second quarter? Like 5?

7

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:47 PM
7 in the 2nd

rabid
08-15-2004, 01:48 PM
Wow.

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:49 PM
HALFTIME:

USA 20-7-27
Puerto Rico 21-28-49

:goodnight: :suicide:

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:49 PM
I guess I will have to look forward to mens swimming...
:flag: Go Micheal Phelps :flag:

Stryder
08-15-2004, 01:51 PM
Personally I'd like to see:

Wade
Bryant
Artest
Ben Wallace
Duncan

But would that team play like a "team"?

I'm not so sure about that...

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 01:51 PM
outscored 28-7 :laugh: :p :maniac: :wtf:

absolutely pathetic

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:52 PM
HALFTIME:

USA 20-7-27
Puerto Rico 21-28-49

:goodnight: :suicide:

:shout: :scream: :banghead: :irked:

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 01:53 PM
Personally I'd like to see:

Wade
Bryant
Artest
Ben Wallace
Duncan


But would that team play like a "team"?

I'm not so sure about that...

Ben and Artest along with Duncan too are the quintessential "Team Players" at least on D.

I'm telling you if this team had Artest and Ben Wallace out there they would be ahead by 20.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 01:54 PM
I'd still trade Ron For Marion. He only has taken like 4 shots. And has about 2 boards in 6-7 mins. Plus everyone else is just plain sucking right now too. Tim is getting some of it done, but still has some t.o.s. and bad plays.

*sigh* I don't know whats going on.........

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:54 PM
:olympics: embarrassing :olympics:

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 01:54 PM
:beat: Right U.S. Left Puerto Rico

Shade
08-15-2004, 01:55 PM
Is it still possible to win the gold with a loss today?

Jerm
08-15-2004, 01:56 PM
Wow, Arroyo just destroyed Stoudamire on that move to the hoop! :o

PR 35, USA 24

Yeah, that was awsome.

Who picks the players for these games? Seems they always forget how to build a team. I guess 4 years is a long time to remember something like that. :rolleyes:

zxc
08-15-2004, 01:56 PM
I don't understand how they can be this bad. Yeah it's not exactly the ideal mix of players but these guys are all pretty good. Is it that hard to play D and pass the ball? Wonder what the coaching staff is even doing with these guys for the past month. Seem like they got no plans on either end of the floor besides running around like idiots.

They still got a chance to get it together if they lose this one though, right? Not single elimination or anything till later on?

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 01:56 PM
I'd still trade Ron For Marion. He only has taken like 4 shots. And has about 2 boards in 6-7 mins. Plus everyone else is just plain sucking right now too. Tim is getting some of it done, but still has some t.o.s. and bad plays.

*sigh* I don't know whats going on.........




Ya cause Marion is such a game changer...:rolleyes:

RimBender
08-15-2004, 01:57 PM
Well don't give up so easy. I know its hard to see the light when you are down by 22 but I'm sure the U.S. will make a big run sometime in the 2nd half to actually make this a game. The game is NOT over. We still got 1 more half. I'm not selling out just yet.

kerosene
08-15-2004, 01:57 PM
It's not even on tv here yet. I don't think I'm going to waste time watching it.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 01:58 PM
I'd still trade Ron For Marion. He only has taken like 4 shots. And has about 2 boards in 6-7 mins. Plus everyone else is just plain sucking right now too. Tim is getting some of it done, but still has some t.o.s. and bad plays.

*sigh* I don't know whats going on.........




Ya cause Marion is such a game changer...:rolleyes:


Again, I'd still trade Ron Artest for Shawn Marion. ;)

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 01:59 PM
Is it still possible to win the gold with a loss today?

Here's the official format:

"Each tournament (men, women) includes 12 teams split into six round-robin groups. The top four teams qualify for the quarterfinals, and the tournament is single-elimination from that point."

So a loss today isn't fatal, but it sure won't help to drop a game to one of the "weaker" teams in our group. :(

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 01:59 PM
Does anyone think this team will even make the medal round?


I'm seriously having my doubts! Maybe this could be the wakeup call that basketball in our country needs to get away from "street ball" and more to passing, shooting, and other basic fundamentals.

Right now, any of these teams :multiflag: can easily punk this waste of a team!

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:01 PM
Well don't give up so easy. I know its hard to see the light when you are down by 22 but I'm sure the U.S. will make a big run sometime in the 2nd half to actually make this a game. The game is NOT over. We still got 1 more half. I'm not selling out just yet.

It's not even really about winning or losing at this point. It's about showing HEART. That's what the Olympics are about. And we sure as hell don't have any.

The NBA's biggest problem has manifested itself into the Olympic circle -- selfishness and greed. The players simply don't give a *****. I defy you to have watched that first half and tell me that ANY of the USA players on the floor look like they give a *****.

Will we make a run? Probably. Will we win? Possibly? Will that change anything? Nope. :wtf:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
Does anyone think this team will even make the medal round?


I'm seriously having my doubts! Maybe this could be the wakeup call that basketball in our country needs to get away from "street ball" and more to passing, shooting, and other basic fundamentals.

Right now, any of these teams :multiflag: can easily punk this waste of a team!

Actually, this would be our FIFTH "wake-up call." There is no "wake-up call." This is what happens when you put together a "team" of greedy, selfish players and are expected to win it all.

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
beyond Ron for Marion debates (we can save that for later ;) )

What kind of an impact would Ron have on this team? I know he was thought about being chosen, I think the twin birds he gave the world in the Detroit series spoiled that... too bad though, I think the team would have had a chance if he had been selected. Thoughts on that?

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:03 PM
I dunno how you can say they look like they don't give a ****. Some of those guys were looking pretty upset to me. You could tell Lamar Odom was really pissed during that interview. I don't know what the problem is but I don't think it's the players not caring about winning.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:03 PM
Well don't give up so easy. I know its hard to see the light when you are down by 22 but I'm sure the U.S. will make a big run sometime in the 2nd half to actually make this a game. The game is NOT over. We still got 1 more half. I'm not selling out just yet.

It's not even really about winning or losing at this point. It's about showing HEART. That's what the Olympics are about. And we sure as hell don't have any.

The NBA's biggest problem has manifested itself into the Olympic circle -- selfishness and greed. The players simply don't give a *****. I defy you to have watched that first half and tell me that ANY of the USA players on the floor look like they give a *****.

Will we make a run? Probably. Will we win? Possibly? Will that change anything? Nope. :wtf:

Actually, yes, a win will change alot. Confidence does alot to a basketball team. I should know, I start for my HS. After coming from behind a 22 point shows A
HUGE AMOUT OF HEART. Not giving up and still playing even though you're down big.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:04 PM
First half FG shooting

PR shooting: 16/29
USA shooting: 11/35

The numbers don't really reflect how pathetic the USA looked in shooting the outside shot in the 1st half

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:05 PM
Not a good way to start. Shots just not falling.. can't even get those tip ins to drop.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:08 PM
You know what I want to see? Team USA playing hard-nosed, pressing defense every second of this half. If they improve their shooting, that's great, but jeez, shut PR down this half! :mad:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:09 PM
Puerto Rico getting the benefit of the whistle on every drive. That's why the USA will not be able to "flip the switch."

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:10 PM
I can't watch this anymore.But nothing else is on so I have to torture myself with this.:cry:

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 02:11 PM
This is what happens when you put together a "team" of greedy, selfish players and are expected to win it all.

Actually, I totally disagree with you! I feel USA Basketball needs to change the way they operate by assembling a team with skills in mind instead of names. Also, USA Basketball needs to assemble guys that are willing to sacrafice longer practice..meaning more time together as a team instead of a couple weeks of tunning up.

I feel that our biggest problem is this team has not been together that long to be able to play as a team. These other int'l teams practice for months and years together then just add their NBA guys just before the games... Maybe that is something that we should think about.

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:11 PM
I can't watch this anymore.But nothing else is on so I have to torture myself with this.:cry:


Well, look on the bright side.

At least there are no :pacers: on this mockery of a "team."

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:14 PM
:bs: call

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:14 PM
I can't watch this anymore.But nothing else is on so I have to torture myself with this.:cry:


Well, look on the bright side.

At least there are no :pacers: on this mockery of a "team."

Yea I'm glad J.O. turned down the invitation.He cares more about his team and getting a Championship.Well now U.S. is only down by 19 if I did the math right

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 02:18 PM
I can't watch this anymore.But nothing else is on so I have to torture myself with this.:cry:


Well, look on the bright side.

At least there are no :pacers: on this mockery of a "team."

Yea I'm glad J.O. turned down the invitation.He cares more about his team and getting a Championship.Well now U.S. is only down by 19 if I did the math right



Honestly, this is no less embarrassing to me then the 2002 WBC team that had 2 Pacers starting on it!

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:22 PM
Duncan is struggling out there...

PR 58, USA 41 with 2:42 to go in the 3rd

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:22 PM
Yea.How much are we down by now 20 -19?What gets me mad is everytime U.S. loses everyone in the whole world is happy.Because basicly the whole world hates us.And now since we are getting stomped we are just making them happy.

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:23 PM
16 TO's for us:banghead::suicide:I feel bad for Duncan he and A.I. are the only vets and all the rest are young players who care only about their stats on SportsCenter.

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:24 PM
3rd quarter almost over, and we're STILL down by 20.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:25 PM
The USA doesn't pay attention to their wake-up calls when it comes to international basketball, they just keep hitting the snooze button...:rolleyes:

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:25 PM
PR 65, USA 46

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:26 PM
Can't believe they can't even go on one measly run here =\

Didn't cut into it at all in the third.. it's over for sure now not coming back from 20 down in 10 minutes.

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:27 PM
Larry Brown is pissed and I don't blame him.This team is pathetic.:mad:We finally scored!!! :o Now were only down like 18-20 pts:rolleyes:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:27 PM
AFTER 3:

USA 20-7-21-48
Puerto Rico 21-28-16-65

See, it's a MUCH differnt game when the league is not coddling the "superstars."

SoupIsGood
08-15-2004, 02:27 PM
I wish Ron were out there. Then I would have a reason to watch. I wouldn't want JO out there though, he'd get blamed for us losing.

efx
08-15-2004, 02:28 PM
Yea.How much are we down by now 20 -19?What gets me mad is everytime U.S. loses everyone in the whole world is happy.Because basicly the whole world hates us.And now since we are getting stomped we are just making them happy.

Wow, that has got to be the dumbest thing I've read in a long while. I've spent my whole life living in Sweden and the US and I have never seen any of this hate that you speak of. Perhaps you'd like to offer some proof because by watching the Olympics so far I haven't see any.

Grow up, the world doesn't hate you.

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:30 PM
Yea.How much are we down by now 20 -19?What gets me mad is everytime U.S. loses everyone in the whole world is happy.Because basicly the whole world hates us.And now since we are getting stomped we are just making them happy.

Wow, that has got to be the dumbest thing I've read in a long while. I've spent my whole life living in Sweden and the US and I have never seen any of this hate that you speak of. Perhaps you'd like to offer some proof because by watching the Olympics so far I haven't see any.

Grow up, the world doesn't hate you.

It's kinda true. We're almost the Lakers of the Olympics.

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 02:30 PM
Well its the 4th Q!!!C'mon lets show our spirit.Lets GO U.S.A.!!!!!We have to believe.

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:31 PM
Well its the 4th Q!!!C'mon lets show our spirit.Lets GO U.S.A.!!!!!We have to believe.

I do believe. I believe we'll lose. :D :(

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:32 PM
Down to 13. :shrug:

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:32 PM
Nice play there.. dunno why we don't see more of that. Hope it's not too little too late, could be down to 12 here.

SoupIsGood
08-15-2004, 02:32 PM
This team is horrid.

ABADays
08-15-2004, 02:33 PM
What we need to do is have our guys who are going to Europe or playing in the NBADL playing as a standing US team and underwrite them.

efx
08-15-2004, 02:34 PM
I agree with you Shade that the US bball team has a certain status because it's the most succesfull of its kind.
But that will happen to any country that is dominant in a certain sport.

Yeah, we are probably the lakers of the bball olympics but lets not confuse this with saying the world hates us. The latter is a strong word and it doesn't apply here.

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:34 PM
Missed FT and a stupid foul.. bye bye momentum =\

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:36 PM
I agree with you Shade that the US bball team has a certain status because it's the most succesfull of its kind.
But that will happen to any country that is dominant in a certain sport.

Yeah, we are probably the lakers of the bball olympics but lets not confuse this with saying the world hates us. The latter is a strong word and it doesn't apply here.

Yeah, I agree with that. :peace:

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:37 PM
PR 69, USA 55 with 7 minutes to go

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:38 PM
Puerto Rico getting away with a lot of physical play.

It's pretty obvious right now that the team is trying to "flip the switch." You see a LOT more desire out there right now from everyone than in the first three quarters. It's just a matter of overconfidence and lack of respect for the opposition.

Jerm
08-15-2004, 02:40 PM
Gogo Odom.

He's got some moves. :o

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:40 PM
I'm getting awfully tired of NBC's pathetic attempt to getting back to the game on time after a commercial break. That's the FOURTH time in this game we've missed a play or two out of the break. :mad:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:41 PM
Down to 8. :eek:

"Timothy Duncan" LOL. :laugh:

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:42 PM
I'm getting awfully tired of NBC's pathetic attempt to getting back to the game on time after a commercial break. That's the FOURTH time in this game we've missed a play or two out of the break. :mad:

Yeah, that was pretty ****-poor!

PR 69, USA 61 with 6 minutes to go

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:42 PM
Arroyo with the slop dagger. :unimpressed:

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:42 PM
Ugh. That bank in three.. ouch

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:43 PM
Grr...PR hitting threes. :mad:

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:43 PM
Just not enough time left.. :cry:

Hopefully they play with the kind of energy they showed in the fourth from here on out and salvage something from this.

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:44 PM
Why does Jefferson play so much? He sucks =\

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:44 PM
How many millions of points has Arroyo scored today?

Roaming Gnome
08-15-2004, 02:44 PM
We can't buy a damn whistle down low! :bs:

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:44 PM
I also hope all those people that think having RJ would be better than having Artest are watching this game too.

Jerm
08-15-2004, 02:45 PM
I think LB's head is about to a splode.

canyoufeelit
08-15-2004, 02:46 PM
This team sucks, they deserve to lose, and maybe by doing that would finally bring a return to team play... but the Pistons' defeat of the Lakers didn't and since then the Finals has only been a footnote in the Lakers soap opera. Me, me, me. Horrible roster selection. There's no one who can shoot, questionable PG play, half a roster of parts who don't fit. It is just terrible and I feel sorry for Tim Duncan for being stuck with this garbage team.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:46 PM
I also hope all those people that think having RJ would be better than having Artest are watching this game too.

Yah, because Ron would have 50 points 14 rebs and 5 assists and we would be up by 30..... :rolleyes:

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:47 PM
PR 78. USA 67 with 3:47 to go

I was ready to throw something at the screen when they let Arroyo just walk the ball up under no pressure at all in a close ball game...:mad:

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:49 PM
RJ sucks sucks sucks

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:49 PM
I also hope all those people that think having RJ would be better than having Artest are watching this game too.

Yah, because Ron would have 50 points 14 rebs and 5 assists and we would be up by 30..... :rolleyes:

Glad you see the light. :D

I think a defensive PG would be a very valuable asset to this team. It's like watching the Pacers' backcourt on D out there. :eek:

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:49 PM
:(

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:49 PM
Odom is gone, and with him, any hope of a win today.

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:50 PM
I also hope all those people that think having RJ would be better than having Artest are watching this game too.

Yah, because Ron would have 50 points 14 rebs and 5 assists and we would be up by 30..... :rolleyes:

Ron might not score very often, but he would have completely changed this game... for the better... Did you ever watch a Pacer game last year?

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:51 PM
Good grief! Wade just about wiped himself out on that slip on the break! :o

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:51 PM
RJ sucks sucks sucks

And, to think -- the Nets just gave him a 6-year, $78 million deal. :rotflmao:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:52 PM
Arroyo = CLUTCH

WOW.

:o

zxc
08-15-2004, 02:52 PM
Arroyo.. wow.

Jefferson.. sucks =\

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:52 PM
Well, we offered some GREAT players some roster spots, but they declined......

So Hicks your roster looks great but how many of the players are gonna turn down the offer.

I can see injury, like J.O., he wanted to play, which shows how great he really is, but the players turning down an offer to rep their country is ...well....sad.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:52 PM
Two words: Carlos Arroyo :o

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:52 PM
I give up on this team. Larry Brown should have insisted Ben Wallace, Artest and Rip be on the team. They have no chance, this team will be LUCKY to win a bronze

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:53 PM
Congratualtions, people. You have just been witness to the most embarassing moment in Men's Basketball Olympic history for the red, white, and blew. :unimpressed:

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:54 PM
I also hope all those people that think having RJ would be better than having Artest are watching this game too.

Yah, because Ron would have 50 points 14 rebs and 5 assists and we would be up by 30..... :rolleyes:

Ron might not score very often, but he would have completely changed this game... for the better... Did you ever watch a Pacer game last year?



Ron is good, no doubt about it, but one player isnt gonna change anything in a "TEAM INTERNATIONAL GAME."

And I don't really "like" RJ, but I give him respect for being a great player.

3Ball
08-15-2004, 02:54 PM
I don't think Puerto Rico is even a COUNTRY! We got beat by a damn proTECtorate.

Jerm
08-15-2004, 02:55 PM
Is Arroyo really that good or is he over-achieving?

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:55 PM
I give up on this team. Larry Brown should have insisted Ben Wallace, Artest and Rip be on the team. They have no chance, this team will be LUCKY to win a bronze

Did Rip get offered a roster spot?

I think he did and then turned it down for "security reasons." bleh...

Burt_Reincarnated
08-15-2004, 02:57 PM
Ben and Artest didnt get offered spots. Artest is on record saying he would have gone. I think Ben would have too.

Oh well.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:57 PM
Is Arroyo really that good or is he over-achieving?


He is pretty good. You see him don't you? In a big game like this and he is doing his thing.

I didn't watch many Jazz games but I heard he was doing a great job over there and I saw one game he has a 31 point outburst, so I would say he is good.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 02:58 PM
Ben and Artest didnt get offered spots. Artest is on record saying he would have gone. I think Ben would have too.

Oh well.

Artest and Wallace would upgrade the roster, But we still need perimeter shooting.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 02:59 PM
Is Arroyo really that good or is he over-achieving?


Arroyo is good, but we're making him look like an All-Star out there

Final Score: PR 92, USA 73 :sadbanana:

Shade
08-15-2004, 02:59 PM
FINAL SCORE:

USA 20-7-21-25-73
Puerto Rico 21-28-16-27-92

:unimpressed: :suicide: :goodnight:

Jerm
08-15-2004, 02:59 PM
Is Arroyo really that good or is he over-achieving?


He is pretty good. You see him don't you? In a big game like this and he is doing his thing.

I didn't watch many Jazz games but I heard he was doing a great job over there and I saw one game he has a 31 point outburst, so I would say he is good.

Heh, yeah I see him. I just wondered if he always played that well. I heard he was good but didn't see him play that much last season. If he always plays that well it seems there would be more hype about him.

zxc
08-15-2004, 03:00 PM
Ben and Artest didnt get offered spots. Artest is on record saying he would have gone. I think Ben would have too.

Oh well.

Artest and Wallace would upgrade the roster, But we still need perimeter shooting.


I dunno, I think the defense(or lack thereof) is as big a problem as the perimeter shooting is.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 03:02 PM
Well, you can't take anything away from PR, and we didn't make Arroyo look like anything, that was all him. Iverson and Wade, two very respected defensive players were gaurding him the entire game.

I applaud PRs effort .

Shade
08-15-2004, 03:04 PM
Iverson:

"It's another wake-up call."

Wake the f#ck up, already!!! :unimpressed:

canyoufeelit
08-15-2004, 03:05 PM
Thankfully, the media is going to absolutely DESTROY this team in the next 48 hours.

Shade
08-15-2004, 03:06 PM
3-pt. shooting percentages:

Puerto Rico - 50%
USA - 12.5%

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 03:06 PM
Iverson:

"It's another wake-up call."

Wake the f#ck up, already!!! :unimpressed:

As I said before, USA basketball just keeps hitting the snooze button when it comes to international bball :mad:

Shade
08-15-2004, 03:07 PM
5 losses for "Team" USA in the last two outings for Olympic play now.

RimBender
08-15-2004, 03:08 PM
"Its not always rainbows and butterflies."


- Maroon 5

zxc
08-15-2004, 03:13 PM
Thankfully, the media is going to absolutely DESTROY this team in the next 48 hours.


I dunno how that should make anyone thankful. Yeah they are gonna be destroyed, but at least these guys are out there trying. I dunno how people think these guys are out there and don't give a ****. Out there putting their reputations on the line for their country. They know the black mark from this gonna follow them for awhile. Sometimes things just don't work out. Destroy all the people who turned down the invite(or the people who did the inviting, perhaps) if you gotta destroy anyone.

BostonConnection
08-15-2004, 03:21 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/basketball/2004-08-15-us-puerto-rico_x.htm

ATHENS (AP) In an upset that was as historic as it was inevitable, the U.S. men's basketball team lost for only the third time ever in the Olympics on Sunday, 92-73 to Puerto Rico.

It was also the most lopsided loss in the games for the Americans, alarming not only for its significance but also for its decisiveness.

Puerto Rico, which had lost to the Americans five times in the past 13 months, took control in the first half, led by 22 at halftime and gamely held off a fourth-quarter comeback for one of the biggest sports achievements in the island territory's history.

The loss was a blow to the confidence of Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson and the rest of the Americans, but it did little to hurt their gold medal chances. They need only to finish in the top four of their six-team group to reach the quarterfinals.

Still, the defeat will go a long way toward giving the competition the bold idea that it's someone else's turn to move to the top of a sport that's been dominated by one country for nearly three-quarters of a century.

As Carlos Arroyo left the court with just over a minute left, he defiantly pulled at the words "Puerto Rico" on his jersey. He led his team with 24 points.

Some Stats
PR: Arroyo - 24 pts/7 asts, Casiano - 18 pts, Ayuso - 15 pts
USA: Duncan - 15 pts/16 rbs, Iverson - 15 pts, Odom - 13 pts, Wade - 10 pts

PR shot 23/39 (.59) 2 pt FGs, 8/16 (.50) 3 pt FGs
USA shot 23/51 (.45) 2 pt FGs, 3/24 (.13) 3 pt FGs

SoupIsGood
08-15-2004, 03:22 PM
God that was ugly. The roster just isn't right for international ball.

Kegboy
08-15-2004, 03:23 PM
Ben and Artest didnt get offered spots. Artest is on record saying he would have gone. I think Ben would have too.

Oh well.

Nope, Ben was the same as Rip, turning down because of "security concerns". Unbelievable, but true. Plus, Ben was on the WC team, and he played like *****.

I think we can all assume Ron would have gone.

Lord Helmet
08-15-2004, 05:53 PM
Who thinks this team will at least get Siver?

ABADays
08-15-2004, 06:25 PM
In our pole I voted Silver from the very beginning.

Mourning
08-16-2004, 12:58 AM
Wow! Nice start of the Olympics US!:rolleyes: Puerto Rico DOMINATED!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:;)

clownskull
08-16-2004, 04:27 AM
well, i pretty much said the same thing in another post but, i will say it again. this team is totaly overloaded with the same type of player.
iverson,marbury,wade,jefferson,marion,anthony, james etc.
these guys are all slashers and scorers. their height isn't the same but their basic style of play is. teams are playing tough zones and making "team" usa try to get it done elsewhere and it isn't gonna work. these guys except for jefferson aren't even in the top 50 in nba 3 point shooting. jefferson is like 46th or 47th. these guys are acting like they can forget the three and just play defense and it will work out. if i recall, john thompson had the same kind of philosophy with his '88' team and some of us recall how they did. bronze.
this squad will not win the gold. they are just not a balanced team.