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Lord Helmet
09-11-2010, 08:40 PM
:colts: (0-0) After losing the Super Bowl back in February, the Colts have high expectations for the 2010 campaign with the return of Bob Sanders and Anthony Gonzalez.

:texans: (0-0) The Texans finished last season on a four game winning streak, which gave them their first winning season in franchise history and hope to build on last season starting now.

Time: 1:00 PM ET

Location: Reliant Stadium, Houston, TX

Television: :cbssports:

Natston
09-11-2010, 09:07 PM
The offensive line literally scares the living **** out of me... :uhoh:

Day-V
09-11-2010, 09:16 PM
As long as Jeff Saturday is manning the Center position, I'm confident in the O-Line until proven otherwise.

Psyren
09-11-2010, 09:23 PM
As long as Jeff Saturday is manning the Center position, I'm confident in the O-Line until proven otherwise.
I agree. I'll give them a chance. But good lord, if Linkenbach starts at LT for whatever reason if CJ can't play, we're screwed.

Mario Williams already scares the crap out of me.

Natston
09-11-2010, 10:05 PM
The passing game should be fine because Peyton and the short passing game can account for spotty blocking.

However the running game will probably struggle mightily for the third straight year...

SoupIsGood
09-11-2010, 10:25 PM
However the running game will probably struggle mightily for the third straight year...

:(

aero
09-12-2010, 01:23 AM
for some reason i have a feeling we are going to get off to a bumpy start, we should pick up right where we left off in mid-season form during the 2nd half of the game though.

Natston
09-12-2010, 08:52 AM
Colt Injuries:

Cody Glenn - Questionable
Charlie Johnson - Questionable
Jacob Lacey - Questionable
Jeff Saturday - Questionable
Anthony Gonzalez - Questionable

Texan Injuries:

Antwaun Molden - Doubtful
Kareem Jackson - Probable
Steve Slaton - Probable
Duane Brown - Probable
Owen Daniels - Probable
Mario Williams - Probable

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 09:34 AM
Anthony Gonzalez .... the new Bob Sanders? The offensive side Bob Sanders? Without pretty much any success however. Maybe?

Brad8888
09-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Colts will need to prove that they are still elite offensively to beat the Texans, and hopefully will squeek out the W. Defensively, please Bob, actually be healthy!

Jrod Jones
09-12-2010, 11:59 AM
Prove what? The Colts have nothing to prove offensively, and I expect this to be a high scoring game. The Colts defense needs to step up today... Schaub broke out last year, and I am scared that Andre Johnson might just tear us a new *******. Regardless of if Johnson gets 100 or 150 yards, if we can hold the Texans run game to an average game (cmon Bob!) and keep the other receivers from doing too much damage I see a pretty solid win today

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:05 PM
:unimpress

****ty return
****ty Blocking
3 and out

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:06 PM
and the texans take over at the 30

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:08 PM
amazing hookup on third down for the texans

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:09 PM
I don't think we could look any ****ing worse than we are looking right now :unimpress

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:14 PM
Bob is all over the place right now.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:15 PM
Good thing the texans are looking rusty as well...

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:15 PM
Bob is all over the place right now.

And almost got hurt again...

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:18 PM
another pathetic return

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:19 PM
positive gain on a run :happy:

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:19 PM
:goponies:

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:21 PM
keep on moving o...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:23 PM
Are we allergic to running the football or what?

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:23 PM
and teh ****ty o-line strikes again...

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:25 PM
Hayden with his usual PI call... :unimpress

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:25 PM
LOL I think Bob is hurt.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:26 PM
Sanders hurt...

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:27 PM
Sanders hurt...

Or not...

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Despite our best efforts, the Colts are only down 6...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:29 PM
Our D looks pretty good I guess.

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:29 PM
Well...everyone knows that settling for field goals is suicide against the Colts and the Texans have done it twice. Eventually, the Colts offense will figure out what they need.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:31 PM
An okay return? We might actually start doing something folks...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:32 PM
We should try a run on first down just for funsies.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:33 PM
1 yard rush, mario unblocked yet again... :happy:

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:34 PM
Pay that man Polian! or get some better blockers!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:35 PM
OMG that injury looks terrible

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:38 PM
OMG that injury looks terrible

The Colts were driving, he's faking it...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:40 PM
Our offensive line is a joke. There is no way we will win this division with the way this offensive line looks. They can't block anyone.

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:40 PM
No faking there. That's a fully shredded knee. Feel bad for any guy getting injured, but the first game and your season is over has got to be rough.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:40 PM
The Colts were driving, he's faking it...

I'm all for humor, but his foot was facing the wrong way. That's sad to see. I don't know if this was the best time for it.

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:41 PM
These guys are going to get Peyton killed....

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:41 PM
Mario is tough regardless, but he's been untouched the ENTIRE GAME so far...

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:41 PM
Wow what a stick from Gonzo. Nevermind, incomplete.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Gotta challenge it...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:43 PM
This offensive line is just terrible seriously. It's not just Williams, they can't block anyone. Pollak looks completely lost. My hopes for this team right now have been lowered from the Super Bowl to just making the playoffs.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:45 PM
We can't do anything right...

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:45 PM
My lord, they can't even pin them on the 1 properly...

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Good lord.....Bullitt in instead of Sanders...

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Bill "I lose Super Bowls" Polian

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:49 PM
Good lord.....Bullitt in instead of Sanders...

I think (and hope) that they're just limiting his play count...

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:50 PM
Well, at least the defense, outside of Hayden's 50 yd PI penalty, is bringing it.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:50 PM
Bob's apparently not even on the sidelines.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:51 PM
Jacoby "Mother ****ing" Jones

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 01:51 PM
Bob should just retire. Elbow issue just like last year.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:51 PM
LOL Bob questionable for the game with an elbow injury.

Can we just cut his ***?

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:51 PM
I think (and hope) that they're just limiting his play count...

DUMBASS! HE'S HURT

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 01:52 PM
I think (and hope) that they're just limiting his play count...
Nope. He's hurt.

He might be ready after the BYE week.....

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Not good....not good....

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Maybe we'll go 8-8?

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:53 PM
There is no way the colts come back from being down this much to the texans!

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 01:53 PM
Bill "I lose Super Bowls" Polian

Strange, I've never seen him play in a single one of them.

Or coach even.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:54 PM
There is no way the colts come back from being down this much to the texans!

With this current team, I don't think this needs to be in green.

Pingu
09-12-2010, 01:54 PM
This sure ain't looking good right now. The Texans look like the Colts, and vice-versa.

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 01:55 PM
Strange, I've never seen him play in a single one of them.

Or coach even.
Strange. It isn't his job to play, only to construct the teams.

Look, I like Bill, but if you're going to call out the OLine after the Super Bowl, you probably should do more than just sign some ****ty players that get cut.

Natston
09-12-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm this close to watching the Bears/Lions game...

Seriously...

No Green Font...

travmil
09-12-2010, 01:56 PM
This possession is make or break for the Colts. They need point here. If they have to punt it away, the Texans could keep it for the rest of the half, top it with points, and then get the kickoff for the next half. If the Colts don't score here, it could be 27-0 before they see the ball again.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Garcon is a ****ing retard he just ran behind the first down marker.

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Strange. It isn't his job to play, only to construct the teams.

Exactly, it's his job to put together a team that can contend for the Super Bowl. It's the players job to go win it. Exactly my point.

He does his job, it's the players fault for losing the Super Bowls.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 01:59 PM
Addai has been the best player on offense.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:00 PM
Garcon sucks.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:01 PM
Customary Garcon drop... :unimpress

Pingu
09-12-2010, 02:01 PM
You gotta be kidding me...

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:02 PM
This possession is make or break for the Colts. They need point here. If they have to punt it away, the Texans could keep it for the rest of the half, top it with points, and then get the kickoff for the next half. If the Colts don't score here, it could be 27-0 before they see the ball again.

At least they're not parked deep in Colts territory...

imawhat
09-12-2010, 02:02 PM
There is no way the colts come back from being down this much to the texans!

Where's Sage Rosenfels when we need him?

redfoster
09-12-2010, 02:02 PM
...

****.

Pingu
09-12-2010, 02:03 PM
As much as I like Garcon, his untimely drops really, really hurt.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:04 PM
Our rush D is pretty bad.

This team just looks really, really bad.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:05 PM
I think Bullitt might be better than Bob anyway.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Good thing Sanders got hurt, because that would have been a incomplete pass...

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Now we're in business...

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:06 PM
And our god awful line strikes again!

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:07 PM
There we go. They are hurrying and taking away anything downfield so the Colts just stop and use quick throws. 5 yds at a time is still moving.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:08 PM
And Garcon runs a bad bad route!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:08 PM
Garcon thrown to 5 times, 1 catch. Sucks.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:08 PM
Addai's the man.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Good thing Addai was in there, because that would have been a incomplete pass...

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Man that's bad timing for a false start...total momentum killer on 1st and goal...

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
GARCON WITH ANOTHER ****ING DROP!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Garcon drops a touchdown. So this is why he was a Division II receiver.

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Go ahead and blame that bad throw on Garcon too...

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Wow, that throw was just as bad and Reggie pulled it down...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Reggie Wayne thank God you're still alive.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Go ahead and blame that bad throw on Garcon too...

That should have been a catch. It hit him in the hands and he is an NFL receiver. That has to be a catch.

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:11 PM
That throw was either bad or he did it on purpose and was almost impossible.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:12 PM
That throw was either bad or he did it on purpose and was almost impossible.

It was impossible because it was Garcon... :-p










:(

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:13 PM
That throw was either bad or he did it on purpose and was almost impossible.

If you're still talking about the Garcon play that should have been a catch. That was as good as that throw with that route on that short of a field is going to get.

NFL receiver rule, if it hits you in the hands, you catch it, period.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:14 PM
Lots of drops from the Jacoby Jones/Pierre Garcon we're only number two receivers because of our athleticism club.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:15 PM
The Bungles are getting murked right now.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Ok let's score again take the lead and break their will.

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Actually I was talking about the Reggie Wayne TD with that comment. I still say that Peyton's throw wasn't perfect. Maybe he should have caught it but it's not a stretch to see why he didn't.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:16 PM
And we're back in business!

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:17 PM
The Bungles are getting murked right now.

Hopefully Carson can get that reality show this year too...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:18 PM
Dude...our offensive line...:suicide:

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:18 PM
If the Colts score here and take the lead going into the half, that would just be crushing for the Texans. I can't even imagine knowing that you kicked the Colts *** for a full 95% of the first half and it wasn't good enough.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:19 PM
Seriously why couldn't we do anything to improve this line other than cut Ugoh and Lilja?

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:22 PM
Go for it.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:24 PM
**** yeah. Love that ballsy call.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:24 PM
çollie!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:26 PM
I TAKE IT ALL BACK PIERRE! I TAKE IT ALL BACK!

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:27 PM
Garçon!!! There you go!!!

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 02:28 PM
Seriously why couldn't we do anything to improve this line other than cut Ugoh an Lilja?
It's not up to Bill Polian.

Pingu
09-12-2010, 02:28 PM
Atta boy! Atta Garcon I mean...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:29 PM
That was a weak play call.

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 02:36 PM
It's not up to Bill Polian.

:laugh:

travmil
09-12-2010, 02:36 PM
So are we all over the doom and gloom. Are we done channeling our inner Shade yet?

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:37 PM
No we're still a very flawed team, just because the Texans are equally flawed doesn't mean we should be happy.

SoupIsGood
09-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Seriously why couldn't we do anything to improve this line other than cut Ugoh an Lilja?

No kidding. This current group of O-linemen sucks (and has sucked for two years), but we seem content to stick with them.

And Bob Sanders is worthless. Bullit should've never lost the starting job.

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 02:42 PM
I think the idea is that Peyton Manning's intelligence and abilities mitigates the ability for our horrible offensive line to screw us. So if you're going to have a hole on the team, that's it. Which is true to an extent. With almost any other QB this is a disaster.

I don't like it, but it's the only logical conclusion I can come to as to why you don't make any major changes.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:47 PM
Tryon has been pretty good so far in special teams and on defense...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:47 PM
Our rushing D is hit and miss.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:49 PM
Pretty much all miss right now.

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 02:50 PM
Our rushing D is miss and miss.

..... fixed for the start of the 3rd.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:50 PM
Our rushing D is hit and miss.

:(

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 02:51 PM
:laugh:
It's up to us *Cue Pacers slogan from '05*

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:51 PM
Nice play by Mathis. Texans are gonna go for it. HUGE PLAY.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:52 PM
Damn it, the D line got a great push where were the linebackers.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:53 PM
Powers has been pretty good today.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:54 PM
I hate being inebriated sometimes, I thought that it was an INT... :lol:

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:55 PM
I can't believe this scrub is just running all over us, and yes Arian Foster is a scrub.

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 02:55 PM
D is tired. ****.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:57 PM
D is tired. ****.
That's why Shaub called a timeout, he wants the d to be rested when the texans score a TD...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:57 PM
How can they be tired? The second half just started...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 02:58 PM
All our momentum just got pooped all over the field by the defense.

Lord Helmet
09-12-2010, 02:59 PM
How can they be tired? The second half just started...
They've been getting walked all over since the half started.

Natston
09-12-2010, 02:59 PM
If the Colts play like the Colts of old, they'll drive down for a TD on the first drive after half...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:00 PM
They've been getting walked all over since the half started.

Well then they can't use being tired as an excuse.

Hate to say it, but offense needs to get points on every possession this half. Even one failure probably dooms us.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:02 PM
I one for none, am glad that we kept Moore as the returner...

travmil
09-12-2010, 03:05 PM
Just in case nobody has noticed in the middle of this Colts hate-fest, Joseph Addai is having himself a pretty good game.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:05 PM
Give the ball to Addai as much as humanly possible this season. He looks like a man possessed.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:05 PM
Addai is the guy! thanks SIG!

Shade
09-12-2010, 03:06 PM
The defense looks as bad as ever.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:07 PM
These are not the Colts we once knew.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:08 PM
These aren't the colts you're looking for...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:11 PM
Not looking good for homestar runner.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:12 PM
We look like a bunch of rookies.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:12 PM
We've blown 2 timeouts? or a delay?

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Game over folks.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Mario just jumped on our heads...

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:14 PM
COME THE **** ON!!! TOUCHBACK?

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:14 PM
Caldwell does not have this team prepared to play at any level.

xBulletproof
09-12-2010, 03:16 PM
I've been saying for a couple months this was going to be a bad year. Everyone around me thought I was crazy. So far I'm unfortunately looking to be correct.

It's bad because I'm usually pretty optimistic.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:17 PM
Wow we suck. Third in the division? I could see both the Titans and Texans beating us out this year.

travmil
09-12-2010, 03:17 PM
Two monumental eff-ups on punts by Tryon that resulted in both being placed at the 20 instead of pinned at the 1. Methinks his days are numbered.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:24 PM
It's a bad/mad/sad year if I might have more hope in the Pacers than I did in the Colts this year...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:26 PM
For as bad as the D has been, they've still given our offense chances and our offense just has not had it.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:30 PM
Well we're blessed to still have a chance only because of 18 being our QB. If we could score a TD here, doubts will creep back up into the Texans heads.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:31 PM
Game. Over.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:31 PM
GAME OVER!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:32 PM
Can't think of a more devastating way to start the season.

travmil
09-12-2010, 03:32 PM
Yep that should just about do it. The Colts have to stop them and score twice. Don't think that's gonna happen today with this team.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:34 PM
We haven't gotten our butts kicked like this in a while.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:34 PM
inexcusable run even if the game is over...

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:34 PM
inexcusable run AGAIN even if the game is over...

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:35 PM
So this is what it looks like when the Colts character abandons them and they give up on a game.

clownskull
09-12-2010, 03:35 PM
yep, this game is over.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:35 PM
inexcusable run AGAIN even if the game is over.... Moaliliii looked drunk on that play

travmil
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Arian Foster is not a scrub...he's not Walter Payton, but he's not a scrub.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
This team should be ****ING ASHAMED.

Bball
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Turn out the lights... the party's over....
They say all....

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
THE TEAM JUST GAVE UP!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Arian Foster is not a scrub...

Yeah, he is. He won't do this again the rest of the season.

travmil
09-12-2010, 03:37 PM
Yeah, he is. He won't do this again the rest of the season.

He did it twice at the end of last season. One is a fluke, two is a trend. This is his third straight game of making defenses look silly.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:37 PM
I DON'T CARE HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE CAME BACK FROM 17 AGAINST THE TEXANS, THIS IS INEXCUSABLE!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:38 PM
This would have never happened if Tony Dungy was still alive.

Stryder
09-12-2010, 03:38 PM
Disappointing.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:38 PM
This would have never happened if Tony Dungy was still alive.

375

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:40 PM
I don't really know what to say. I sincerely think that right now this team's ceiling is a 10-6 season and a much more reasonable record is probably 8-8.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:43 PM
Peyton is gonna get hurt at some point this season. If the o-line keeps this up.

The only thing that has made me smile all day is seeing Matt Leinart on Houston's sideline as a backup.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:44 PM
Bernard Pollard seems like a classy guy based on that sound bite. (/green font)

Bball
09-12-2010, 03:45 PM
The first rule of fantasy football is back in play:
Always start the starting RB playing against the Colts....

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:46 PM
Help me, Indiana Pacers you're my only hope...

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:48 PM
That's indicative of the offensive line play that Dallas can FAKE a block and score a meaningless TD...

Shade
09-12-2010, 03:50 PM
LOL at all the pessimism. That's my job! :mad:

Seriously, though, I don't have high hopes for this season. I hadn't felt particularly comfortable during the preseason, but wanted to wait until the regular season before confirming my fears.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:52 PM
I'll give McAfee some credit, that was a pretty damn good onside kick.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Our linebackers should have to walk home.

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Worst run defense since 375...

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Our linebackers should have to walk home.

Our DT's should carry their bags...

Natston
09-12-2010, 03:57 PM
Awful. Both sides of the ball.

Shade
09-12-2010, 03:57 PM
You can only plug the same widening hole so many times before the dam finally breaks.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 03:57 PM
Sucks if you had to play Arian Foster this week in fantasy football.

clownskull
09-12-2010, 03:58 PM
Worst run defense since 375...

yeh, i was thinking this run defense looks as bad as i have ever seen them.
so either way it is still pretty damn bad.
hell, houston could start every play at 1st and 15 and get a 1st down every play easily.
they get 8-15 yards every carry.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 04:00 PM
So this is what it feels like to get housed?

Natston
09-12-2010, 04:00 PM
yeh, i was thinking this run defense looks as bad as i have ever seen them.
so either way it is still pretty damn bad.

Actually this might be worse because we won the super bowl the same year. We're not gonna make the playoffs if the o-line and defense play this way...

Shade
09-12-2010, 04:01 PM
34-17 :lol:

Natston
09-12-2010, 04:01 PM
Put in Painter so they can score again! No green here!

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 04:04 PM
This is just embarrassing.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 04:05 PM
We could have still won this game if not for the our ****ing stupid mistakes. ****.

BTW, I think this loss just officially became on the defense's shoulders.

Shade
09-12-2010, 04:05 PM
Well, that was fast.

Plenty of time for the Texans to score again, eh?

Natston
09-12-2010, 04:06 PM
ironically Collie has a career day...

SoupIsGood
09-12-2010, 04:07 PM
Not overreacting, but I think TPTB should at least consider replacing Polian. Or retaining him as a consultant. Awesome evaluator of talent, but our O- and D-line issues are long-standing problems, and he's been unable to solve them.

I'm losing interest in watching a team with weak line-play, year after year after year.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 04:07 PM
McAfee's ****ing awesome at onside kicks if any of those jackasses could actually get a hand on it.

SoupIsGood
09-12-2010, 04:10 PM
I think McAffee is just generally awesome. Been really happy with him.

Shade
09-12-2010, 04:12 PM
That was turrible, Kenny. Just turrible.

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Natston
09-12-2010, 04:12 PM
In the Lions/Bears game, they showed once again why Polamalueses' drop was a incomplete pass and not a int

SoupIsGood
09-12-2010, 04:15 PM
You have to really screw up to lose w/ Peyton playing that well. Poopy.

D-BONE
09-12-2010, 04:18 PM
Manning and our skill players will obviously keep us in and pull out a fair share of games. However, you have to have the toughness in the trenches along with that to bring home the hardware. We are severely lacking along both lines.

The finesse thing eventually will catch up to you. I think it did against the Saints last year. It's already rearing its ugly head this season.

Sollozzo
09-12-2010, 04:38 PM
When I watch the Rex Ryan pre-game speeches on "Hard Knocks" I sometimes wish we had a coach with that kind of fire.

Mr_Smith
09-12-2010, 04:38 PM
Bob Sanders as expected couldn't even last a damn quarter. Arian Foster runs the ball down the defense throats. Horrible performance, i was not expecting this.

Slick Pinkham
09-12-2010, 04:40 PM
on the bright side, the unbearable pressure of being undefeated is relieved early

Natston
09-12-2010, 04:43 PM
When I watch the Rex Ryan pre-game speeches on "Hard Knocks" I sometimes wish we had a coach with that kind of fire.

Not to sound misogynistic but we played like a bunch of pussies...

Bball
09-12-2010, 04:51 PM
The brightside is that it's so early in the season that's there's hope through trades, coaching, player pride, practice, etc to fix some of the problems....

OTOH... I think Polians arrogance is again part of the problem. In making his point that the O line needed improved play I'm not so sure he worked as hard as he could to improve it as much as he assumed anything he touched would turn to gold and show us all how tremendous he is...

Is Mudd still in New Orleans.... Maybe he should be a 'consultant' too....

Mr_Smith
09-12-2010, 05:01 PM
Tony Ugoh is sitting somewhere laughing his @ss off. :laugh::laugh:

Cherokee
09-12-2010, 05:10 PM
The o-line, the d-line, and the rushing game appeared to be the Colts' only weaknesses. That's kinda like saying icebergs were the Titanic's only weaknesses.

idioteque
09-12-2010, 05:13 PM
Tony Ugoh is sitting somewhere laughing his @ss off. :laugh::laugh:

Are you serious? The fact that he couldn't carve out a spot on what the Colts term an "offensive line" speaks volumes about how big of a bust he was.

Mr_Smith
09-12-2010, 05:45 PM
Are you serious? The fact that he couldn't carve out a spot on what the Colts term an "offensive line" speaks volumes about how big of a bust he was.

I know the man was a bust...I'm just saying that because Peyton still got sacked twice and pressured alot and the running game was absent when they did run.

Shade
09-12-2010, 05:47 PM
I think McAffee is just generally awesome. Been really happy with him.

Yeah, he does an excellent job keeping my computer virus-free.

Basketball Fan
09-12-2010, 06:12 PM
Well that sucked

Everyone not named Peyton was a disgrace and I can't stand to look at any of them now.

Our O-Line sucks

So does our run defense

So does our run game

And Polian you are also a worthless douchebag because you *****ed about the O-Line and it was your job to fix it and you nearly cost us the season by leaving Manning like that to a possible season ending injury. From now on please STFU!


On the bright side there won't be a controversial "decision" this season.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 06:13 PM
Also, let's give some credit to our secondary and Freeney and Mathis who were generally very, very good and forced the Texans to go to Arian Foster. That unit is for real.

Our DTs and LBs are so below par though that they drag every one else down.

It's amazing how the trenches can impact a game. Everyone else played well today or at least good enough to win. Get dominated in those two places though and we never had a chance.

Moses
09-12-2010, 06:24 PM
Highlight of the game was Reggie Wayne cussing out one of the Texans DBs. Must have learned that on the sideline of the Colts Patriots game a couple of years ago watching Welker.

Basketball Fan
09-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Highlight of the game was Reggie Wayne cussing out one of the Texans DBs. Must have learned that on the sideline of the Colts Patriots game a couple of years ago watching Welker.


Yeah ole Bernie Pollard threw some back. Oh well I'm sure Dungy will lecture them both about profanity

travmil
09-12-2010, 06:31 PM
The first rule of fantasy football is back in play:
Always start the starting RB playing against the Colts....

I did. Foster had 41 in my league. Forte is my other RB and he had 30. Currently whupping Pig Nash 98-57.

Trader Joe
09-12-2010, 06:43 PM
Highlight of the game was Reggie Wayne cussing out one of the Texans DBs. Must have learned that on the sideline of the Colts Patriots game a couple of years ago watching Welker.

Yeah, I heard that Pollard was really dropping some F bombs.

aero
09-12-2010, 08:11 PM
this game was an embarrassment. The D was terrible, the O line was non existent... overall...just wow...a lot of work to be done.

owl
09-12-2010, 09:33 PM
Colts have lost 6 in a row.

Basketball Fan
09-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Colts have lost 6 in a row.

Since the Regular season? Only 3

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 12:02 AM
He's counting preseason for some reason.

Pig Nash
09-13-2010, 12:40 AM
I did. Foster had 41 in my league. Forte is my other RB and he had 30. Currently whupping Pig Nash 98-57.

I faced Foster in TWO leagues today. I was close in the other one (I have Forte in that league) but still lost 130 to 145 (plus Sproles. He had Peyton and Ochocinco as well. We're a .5PPR league)

AND I had Kolb who scored none in BOTH leagues. URGH!

Jrod Jones
09-13-2010, 01:08 AM
You all need to calm down and relax.

Was our offensive line a problem? Yes
Was our run defense a problem? Yes
Were they both problems last year? Yes
How much worse has it gotten? Not much

You all seem to forget what its like to be rooting for a real team... The Indianapolis Colts will not find a way to pull every game out of their *** in the final 5 minutes. This is not a team that is going to go 14-2 BUT they are completely capable of another 11-5, 12-4 type season. Don't doubt Peyton. Remember when he took us from 3-4 to 12-4?

We completely shut down their pass game, and Peyton and co. completely tore their secondary to shreds. You all complain about the lack of a run game, yet Addai averaged 4.4 YPC. The offense was good today. Peyton was still able to pass for 70% and 430 yards with 3TDs (not to mention what might have come from the drive that Collie so miserably ended with that fumble) Ignore that fluke fumble and we score either 27 or 31 points. Stop complaining about the offense. The Oline was pretty bad but Peyton still put on an absolute clinic and Addai put in a solid job considering he only got 10 carries. Noting on the offensive side was any different then what we did last year.

The defense on the other hand... :cry: :o

Lord Helmet
09-13-2010, 01:21 AM
Maybe I'm stupid, but I think we'll be fine, and I think we'll probably still win the AFC South, and if not, at least grab a Wild Card.

I just hope Bob can find a way to play, because honestly, it's really sad.

Bball
09-13-2010, 02:42 AM
I've been over Bob Sanders for a while now. I don't have anything against him but his days as a starter should've been long over. Yes, I know when he's not injured he can be a force on the defense. But the key there is 'when he's not injured'. At some point it has to be clear the man cannot stay uninjured and on the field. It's not fair to the team to practice and plan with him as starter when everyone knows the odds are he's going to miss significant portions of games if not stretches of the season.

A backup who can play when called upon is better than the greatest player ever to play the game if that player can hardly make the playing field. And Bob Sanders is far from the greatest to ever play the game.

Several people have explained the Colts were more or less obligated to continue with Sanders on the roster for cap reasons... But that doesn't mean he needs to be part of the starting unit.

Every season it's a defensive reboot getting Sanders in and out of the lineup. And truthfully, I cannot imagine that can't cause an undercurrent of friction. Particularly when practice time and participation is also an issue.

:soapbox:

Sollozzo
09-13-2010, 08:11 AM
There's a rumor floating around PFT that Sanders suffered a season ending bicep injury. I'm sure the Colts will be tight-lipped as usual today. Looks like Bob's season will end at 1 straight game played. At least last year he played 2 straight.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/13/rumors-fly-of-a-season-ending-injury-for-bob-sanders/#comments

I think it's going to be a long season, though I've thought that before only for the Colts to prove me wrong. But there are a lot of hungry teams this year and two of them are in the division. We saw what the Texans did to us yesterday and let's not forget how good the Titans were down the stretch last year. Those are just the teams in our division: There are several across the AFC who are talented and hungry. New England and Pittsburgh both looked pretty solid yesterday. Pittsburgh really scares me. I think they could make it out of the 4 games w/o Ben with a 3-1 record.

In 08 we had a fairly light-weight schedule down the stretch, but this year is downright brutal at times. We better get some wins early on because I don't know how many we're going to get in the @ Redskins, Texans, @Eagles, Bengals, @ Pats, Chargers, Cowboys, @ Titans stretch. That's as brutal an 8 game stretch as I've seen in recent years. This might very well be the year where we don't hit 12 wins. We already have 1 loss and if we only lose 3 more in a season that contains a brutal 8 game stretch like that then we will have had a spectacular season. I just don't have great confidence in that right now.

I think Polian needs to be held accountable if things are sour this year. His drafting since 2006 or so has been very suspect. Look at the 16 "first day" players drafted since 06 (http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33331) Several of those 16 haven't done anything at all or massively came up short of the expectations given to them: Pitcock, Ugoh, Jennings, etc. That's unacceptable for a team that relies so heavily on the draft. Do we have anyone aside from Gonzo who was drafted in 07 and is on the team now? That's pitiful when that draft was just 3 years ago.

This has gone largely ignored because we continue to win regardless of who we draft mainly because of a select group of veterans. This team was not good at all 2 years ago but Manning was able to pull so many victories out of his a**. I've thought for a while that this team goes as far as Manning takes them. That might not be too far this year if he's on the ground as much as he was yesterday. If that's the case, then the shortcomings in this team will become even more apparent than in previous years where Manning was largely able to sweep them under the rug.

Polian didn't do squat to upgrade the offensive line aside from throwing them under the bus after the Super Bowl. He needs to make some moves there that actually involve adding players who produce as opposed to merely cutting the scraps from previous years.

Basketball Fan
09-13-2010, 09:19 AM
You all seem to forget what its like to be rooting for a real team... The Indianapolis Colts will not find a way to pull every game out of their *** in the final 5 minutes. This is not a team that is going to go 14-2 BUT they are completely capable of another 11-5, 12-4 type season. Don't doubt Peyton. Remember when he took us from 3-4 to 12-4?



3-4 huh? I didn't realize we only played 7 games one season....

And there are those who actually remember this team existed before Manning and the numerous amount of QB's that have come and gone before him.

I never expected 14-2 even if we got to 14-0 Polian/Caldwell would never go for it because they are pansies.

However the issue is or at least mine is that if Polian is going to ***** about the O-Line costing us the SB(even though really they were the least of our problems) and then he does NOTHING to fix it I repeat NOTHING. Then yes he deserves to be called out for the POS that he truly is because Manning can't do it on his own no QB can. And Caldwell's coaching and the defense was no better but at least they kept their traps shut. Polian is incapable of that.


Nobody here as far as I know is doubting Peyton its everyone else that appears questionable at this point.

owl
09-13-2010, 09:42 AM
He's counting preseason for some reason.

My bad, actually they have lost 7 in a row(counting preseason). This is just an observation.
Everyone can decide for themselves the significance.

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 09:43 AM
RE: Bob being injured...again

The Bob thing is what it is. His problem is not just that he launches himself at offensive players hoping for a big hit, it's also how he does it. He doesn't tuck his limbs into his body and he doesn't do a good job of protecting himself. You can lay a big hit on someone and still protect yourself in the process. Bob doesn't know how to do it, and never has. He's a ticking time bomb for this very reason. His arms, particularly his elbow area, are always vulnerable when he launches himself at someone. Look at the play that did him in. He has his arms extended from his body for no reason and takes a helmet to the elbow/bicep area. The announcers kept making comments on a possible head injury from landing on his head, and honestly he may have been a little dazed, but it was pretty clear from the way Bob reacted when he landed that it was an arm injury of some kind.

RE: Bob starting
The more I think about this the less I understand it. Bob is superior only in run support to Bullitt IMO, but Bullitt is superior in passing situations. Yet we had them flipped yesterday. On third down Bullitt would come as sort of a heavy nickel sub. He'd play a linebacker position and would usually mark up with Foster or Owen Daniels and occasionally with the slot man. This IMO is what we should have been using Bob for. Bob should have been our third down linebacker sub and Bullitt should have been starting at SS. Bullitt has the captain's patch for a reason. It's pretty clear the rest of the players on that D respect him a ton. The secondary's performance yesterday once Bullitt came in was pretty extraordinary. The Texans had to run because honestly they didn't have a whole lot going on through the passing game.

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 09:47 AM
Oh BTW, I'm not sold on the Cowboys being a tough game...Talk about an overrated team.

travmil
09-13-2010, 10:07 AM
We completely shut down their pass game...

Sorry, the Texans shut their own pass game when they saw that they were going to be able to run it on every play. There's a difference.

Brad8888
09-13-2010, 10:12 AM
You all need to calm down and relax.

Was our offensive line a problem? Yes
Was our run defense a problem? Yes
Were they both problems last year? Yes
How much worse has it gotten? Not much

You all seem to forget what its like to be rooting for a real team... The Indianapolis Colts will not find a way to pull every game out of their *** in the final 5 minutes. This is not a team that is going to go 14-2 BUT they are completely capable of another 11-5, 12-4 type season. Don't doubt Peyton. Remember when he took us from 3-4 to 12-4?

We completely shut down their pass game, and Peyton and co. completely tore their secondary to shreds. You all complain about the lack of a run game, yet Addai averaged 4.4 YPC. The offense was good today. Peyton was still able to pass for 70% and 430 yards with 3TDs (not to mention what might have come from the drive that Collie so miserably ended with that fumble) Ignore that fluke fumble and we score either 27 or 31 points. Stop complaining about the offense. The Oline was pretty bad but Peyton still put on an absolute clinic and Addai put in a solid job considering he only got 10 carries. Noting on the offensive side was any different then what we did last year.

The defense on the other hand... :cry: :o

Things went pretty much as I said in my post near the start of this thread.

Our offense needs to prove that it is still elite, and it wasn't yesterday despite the heroic effort of Manning because the Colts have even less of an offensive line currently than they may have had at any time in Manning's career here, and had no running game that can be an initiator of the offense (the Colts caught the Texans flat footed the few times a running play was called). That is a recipe for disaster against quality NFL teams, and the Texans are now a quality team.

Also, Sanders needs to be healthy to tie the defense together as the eraser of the mistakes and lack of physicality of the defensive line. That obviously wasn't the case, either, and the Colts got their heads handed to them by a team that is simply superior to them on both sides of the ball due to being more physical on both sides of the ball.

Dungyball still doesn't really work unless the team has superior athletes behind the line on both sides of the ball, and that is no longer the case for the most part, either. I would look for a drastic change by Caldwell in the very near future to go toward a more physical style of play, or his days are numbered.

At least the Colts will not need to worry a controversy about resting the starters at any time this year, because every game will be significant in chasing the wildcard in the AFC. Hopefully 10-6 will be enough to get the job done (and hopefully I am not being too generous with that assessment).

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 11:34 AM
Sorry, the Texans shut their own pass game when they saw that they were going to be able to run it on every play. There's a difference.

I disagree. Schaub looked average. We kept good pressure on him.

The best passing team doesn't decide to test out their 30th ranked rushing offense from last season just for fun. They clearly felt they weren't going to beat us by passing the football.

Moses
09-13-2010, 01:18 PM
As the season progresses and Houston wins more and more games, you will all feel better about this loss. Houston will probably win 12 games this year barring injury. They have a lot of talent on defense and now that they have a real bruiser at tailback, their offense is very well rounded.

I'm not sure why Polian continues to ignore the OLine and defense year after year in the draft though. I know he has a proven track record with most of his picks, but there is no way the Colts will win a championship when they get gashed up the gut for 7-8 yards a carry and can't consistently run the ball themselves.

ChicagoJ
09-13-2010, 01:30 PM
Sorry, the Texans shut their own pass game when they saw that they were going to be able to run it on every play. There's a difference.

Bill Cowher has been preaching that for how many years now? And it works. Strangely, everyone wants to try to beat teams at the other team's strength instead of expose the other team's weakness.

ChicagoJ
09-13-2010, 01:44 PM
I disagree. Schaub looked average. We kept good pressure on him.

I didn't watch the game but his stats looked better than average... any time a QB has less than twenty attempts in a win is a very, very good day for the team.

They averaged > 6 ypc and were only tackled for a loss once? You'll win a lot of football games if you can run the ball like that on a regular basis. Of course, that's not easy to do -- you have to dominate the line.

ChicagoJ
09-13-2010, 01:48 PM
In the Lions/Bears game, they showed once again why Polamalueses' drop was a incomplete pass and not a int


?????

Shade
09-13-2010, 02:45 PM
3-4 huh? I didn't realize we only played 7 games one season....

He means within the same season (started 3-4, then won 9 in a row to finish 12-4).

Shade
09-13-2010, 02:46 PM
As for Sanders, it's time to cut him loose. He's far worse at staying healthy than Bender ever was.

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 04:23 PM
I didn't watch the game but his stats looked better than average... any time a QB has less than twenty attempts in a win is a very, very good day for the team.

They averaged > 6 ypc and were only tackled for a loss once? You'll win a lot of football games if you can run the ball like that on a regular basis. Of course, that's not easy to do -- you have to dominate the line.

It's a good day for the team, but is it a good day for the QB? Look Andre Johnson has been the best wide receiver in the NFL the past 4 years and was handled very nicely yesterday. I know it's tough to give the D credit after the abysmal rush D, but like it or not the pass D did its job.

ChicagoJ
09-13-2010, 04:50 PM
It's a good day for the team, but is it a good day for the QB?

Yep. There's a lot more to playing QB than just the passing statistics. The QB's job is to get first downs, period. If the running game is working well, its the QB's job to flawlessly execute handoffs.


Look Andre Johnson has been the best wide receiver in the NFL the past 4 years and was handled very nicely yesterday. I know it's tough to give the D credit after the abysmal rush D, but like it or not the pass D did its job.

Nobody has ever said your pass defense was bad. Your defense was designed around the blueprint that you'd have the lead because of Manning and your offense. And since most active coaches (Cowher is not an active coach, so almost all active coaches) will abandon the running game if they fall behind, you usually have opponents play right into the strong point of your defense - disrupting a vertical passing game with pressure on the QB from your DEs and adequate coverage deep down the field.

As I've said for five years or more, there is a gameplan that makes the Colts beatable. And the Texans stuck with it yesterday. But I don't know if they are well-coached enough to stick with running the football if they happen to fall behind.

The Jets (I think?) worked it pretty well for about one-half of a game last season, too. I think it was a playoff game. Anyway, Manning scored a quick TD right before the half and then they tried to win via the passing attack in the second half and got crushed.

Trader Joe
09-13-2010, 05:01 PM
Ok, I'm sure Schaub's happy he won, and remember the Texans never trailed. So we can't really say whether they would have stuck with the running game had they fallen behind at the end of the first half instead of us getting a field goal.

It is what it is. Out of all of our units, I'd have to say Hayden/Powers/Bethea/Bullitt+pass rush generated by Freeney and Mathis is our most sound and the one I am least worried about.

ChicagoJ
09-13-2010, 05:17 PM
That's fine. But you're still underestimating the QB's role in the running game. You're not going to average 6+ YPC and only suffer one tackle for a loss in 39 carries with sloppy handoffs and a lack of precision and timing in the backfield.

Unless -- and I didn't watch the game -- there were a lot of direct snaps to the RB. But its pretty difficult to disguise where the offenisve line is going to try to create a hole with a direct snap to the RB. So the wildcat doesn't tend to work for very long after the defense figures out how to read it. (Hint: it is often a sweep/ outside play.)

I know QBs prefer to throw the ball because they like to get the attention it brings, but the other parts of their job are important too. Along with, of course, certain occasions when they need to get out in front of the play and throw blocks too. Although most NFL coaches tend to frown on that now.

Slick Pinkham
09-13-2010, 05:32 PM
Saying they defended the pass well even though they sucked against the run is like saying that a basketball team defended the 3-point shot very well in a game where there was no need for their opponent to shoot threes because they were getting dunks all the time. It seems to me hard to tell...

Bball
09-13-2010, 07:18 PM
If the Colts' defense intentionally funneled the other team to a running game then that is a critical error in coaching and/or the fundamental makeup of the team. When the other team is gashing you on the ground that's good for the opposing team. At some point, even if it requires giving the QB throws, you have to sell out and stop the run at all costs... IMHO...

You can't allow a team to carve you up on the ground like that.

The way that the Colts were playing on D Schaub would've been a fool to put the ball in the air much. Why bother?